Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-11 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Nov 10, 2008, at 3:27 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: At least in case of cpu(1) the magic is a bit perverse and quite unlike the rest of the system. The way notes are managed make a local end of a cpu(1) jump through considerable hoops in order for the notes to be properly delivered. That was a sad

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-11 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:04 PM, andrey mirtchovski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't remember if the solution for note sending across machines was > novel. I seem to remember that in this case processes were addressed > by node/pid. > > I've got it somewhere, will rummage around. ron

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-10 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> I would like to be able to import the /proc (or similar) filesystem from > the remote machine and bind it over the files that my local kernel uses > to send notes to the proxy process. That's how my "ideal world" model > would work. Observe how that was also the first suggestion on the "notes > t

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-10 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 16:42 -0700, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > > ... would you really honestly say that rolling out your > > own notes forwarder is a *neat* trick? As opposed to > > be able to use basic system's FS functionality? > > ok, how would you implement it, then? how would you deliver a no

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-10 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> ... would you really honestly say that rolling out your > own notes forwarder is a *neat* trick? As opposed to > be able to use basic system's FS functionality? ok, how would you implement it, then? how would you deliver a note to a process that's running on a remote machine? would you be introd

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-10 Thread erik quanstrom
> At least in case of cpu(1) the magic is a bit perverse and quite > unlike the rest of the system. The way notes are managed make > a local end of a cpu(1) jump through considerable hoops in order > for the notes to be properly delivered. That was a sad discovery. > > Another discovery was that

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-10 Thread ron minnich
cpu is just great tutorial. notes forwarder, well, I am stil unsure. ron

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-10 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 14:49 -0800, ron minnich wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > At least in case of cpu(1) the magic is a bit perverse and quite > > unlike the rest of the system. The way notes are managed make > > a local end of a c

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-10 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At least in case of cpu(1) the magic is a bit perverse and quite > unlike the rest of the system. The way notes are managed make > a local end of a cpu(1) jump through considerable hoops in order > for the notes to b

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-10 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Mon, 2008-11-10 at 01:55 +0900, sqweek wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > The only question is -- where such a note > > is supposed to be sent to? > > > > Can someone, please, educate me on the moral equivalent of process > > groups, s

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-09 Thread Charles Forsyth
>I'm not really sure what magic is involved in the DEL interrupt. rio (or ip/telnetd, or ... some other user program).

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-11-09 Thread sqweek
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only question is -- where such a note > is supposed to be sent to? > > Can someone, please, educate me on the moral equivalent of process > groups, sessions and their relationships with #c/cons ? Maybe you worke

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 10:54 -0600, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > > This has one or two complications. There is no way to interrupt or kill > > the foreground process. Instead, ctrl-c interrupts 9vx itself. > > chris, > > one of the nice things about the Plan 9 graphics system is that rio is > in

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread andrey mirtchovski
I was playing around with the modified "win" program and I realized it's not going to work due to the propensity of acme to redirect standard error to a separate window. This environment has no way of notifying anyone that a new window has opened without being requested except visually. A better s

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread erik quanstrom
> you have to type 'scroll' and middle-click it with the mouse (is there > a way to issue this as a command from the terminal, anybody?). also, one would think that ; echo noscroll>/dev/wctl would work, but it does not. - erik

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread andrey mirtchovski
my previous message was meant to include a small addition which I omitted by accident and which turned out to be wrong anyway. here is the rest of the picture. I presume that there is no program to read the text on the graphical 9vx terminal (which would be required in order to "visualize" rio), s

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> This has one or two complications. There is no way to interrupt or kill > the foreground process. Instead, ctrl-c interrupts 9vx itself. chris, one of the nice things about the Plan 9 graphics system is that rio is in no way different than any other graphical program. it reads and writes file

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 12:28 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > rio does provide most everything one would need for a "text-mode" > interface. unfortunately, you can't currently "tail -f" /dev/text. perhaps > such a change would be easier and more general That's a very good point! It hadn't occurred

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread erik quanstrom
> >> > Hello, > >> > > >> > Rio is the responsible for killing a process using the Del key, AFAIK > >> > there is no way to terminate a program running in console. May be with > >> > some magic combination of the keys ctrl-t ctrl-t X. > >> > >> Why not write a simple 'shell' shell (heh) that co

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread john
>> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081022 11:16]: >> > Hello, >> > >> > Rio is the responsible for killing a process using the Del key, AFAIK >> > there is no way to terminate a program running in console. May be with >> > some magic combination of the keys ctrl-t ctrl-t X. >> >> Why n

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread roger peppe
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:42 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you mean like, uh, rio or acme? ☺ i can't see why it would be a bad idea to do something like this for text-only mode. it'd be a nice exercise, if nothing else. it should be possible to do without writing a file server,

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread Christian Kellermann
* erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081022 13:51]: > > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081022 11:16]: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Rio is the responsible for killing a process using the Del key, AFAIK > > > there is no way to terminate a program running in console. May be with > > > some

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread erik quanstrom
> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081022 11:16]: > > Hello, > > > > Rio is the responsible for killing a process using the Del key, AFAIK there > > is no way to terminate a program running in console. May be with some magic > > combination of the keys ctrl-t ctrl-t X. > > Why not write

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread Christian Kellermann
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [081022 11:16]: > Hello, > > Rio is the responsible for killing a process using the Del key, AFAIK there > is no way to terminate a program running in console. May be with some magic > combination of the keys ctrl-t ctrl-t X. Why not write a simple 'shell

Re: [9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread gdiaz
Hello, Rio is the responsible for killing a process using the Del key, AFAIK there is no way to terminate a program running in console. May be with some magic combination of the keys ctrl-t ctrl-t X. gabi -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Last night I downloaded 9vx. It works fine from a termi

[9fans] success with 9vx from a terminal

2008-10-22 Thread Chris Brannon
Last night I downloaded 9vx. It works fine from a terminal, using the following invocation: ../9vx.Linux -g -u glenda where -g is the option to run sans GUI. This has one or two complications. There is no way to interrupt or kill the foreground process. Instead, ctrl-c interrupts 9vx itself. Any