On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 4:44 PM, David Leimbach wrote:
> Yeah they were hot on CORBA, and KDE folks were doing DCOP, which was
> derived from some X11 ICE thing... Neither of them was that great, and
> somehow they've both come back to DBUS.
> I don't honestly know the rhyme or reason for any of it.
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Lyons wrote:
>
> On Aug 7, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
>
> X11 isn't a desktop, it tries very hard not to define a look and feel, but
>> it has to include inter-app communications to support the supposedly
>> desirable drag & drop as well a
On Aug 7, 2009, at 11:37 AM, ron minnich wrote:
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Daniel
Lyons wrote:
My beef is that they were hot-all-over CORBA not too long ago. I
expect in
another three years nobody will be using D-Bus, they'll be using
some new
layer that sits on top of it... ad nau
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Daniel Lyons wrote:
> My beef is that they were hot-all-over CORBA not too long ago. I expect in
> another three years nobody will be using D-Bus, they'll be using some new
> layer that sits on top of it... ad nauseam. Outside Plan 9 I don't see
> anyone solving tw
On Aug 7, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote:
X11 isn't a desktop, it tries very hard not to define a look and
feel, but it has to include inter-app communications to support the
supposedly desirable drag & drop as well as any copy/paste beyond
plain text. In fact my big beef with
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 23:03:17 -0400
erik quanstrom wrote:
> > These are reasonable questions (and many of them have "yes" as the
> > answer ;-)) but I have a more
> > fundamental objection here: the desktop is just NOT the place for such
> > a functionality to originate from. The very
> > conce
"Not surprisingly, given that it is a cross-desktop API, D-Bus will be
used to implement a protocol for extracting the needed secrets. "
some things never change. But no, I guess we should not be surprised.
ron
> These are reasonable questions (and many of them have "yes" as the
> answer ;-)) but I have a more
> fundamental objection here: the desktop is just NOT the place for such
> a functionality to originate from. The very
> concept of a fixed desktop that resides on a physical piece of
> hardwa
On Aug 6, 2009, at 7:39 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote:
On Aug 6, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Daniel Lyons wrote:
It's easy for me to object to what they're coming up with but it
would be hard for me to describe in detail how exactly factotum +
all the other stuff encompass it, and I don't think that th
On Aug 6, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Daniel Lyons wrote:
It's easy for me to object to what they're coming up with but it
would be hard for me to describe in detail how exactly factotum +
all the other stuff encompass it, and I don't think that the paper
we have on factotum or the section in nemo's
On Aug 6, 2009, at 11:13 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
poorly. massive, overengineered, and yet lacking:
http://lwn.net/Articles/344117
This looks like a case in desperate need of Peter Gutmann's Wave
Therapy:
http://diswww.mit.edu/bloom-picayune/crypto/14238
"Whenever someone thinks tha
> 270 web form passwords or internet passwords in my keychain. Does
> factotum handle web passwords?
yes, it does. abaco and hget already use factotum
for http passwords.
> with me. Could factotum be adapt to integrate with a browser and store
> web form secrets? If so that would be a compe
On Aug 6, 2009, at 12:13 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
poorly. massive, overengineered, and yet lacking:
http://lwn.net/Articles/344117
Ugh.
A brief apology on their behalf, though. I have been trying to
understand the workings of factotum, secstore, auth/keyfs and whatnot
for a while and
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