Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-13 Thread dave . l
Is it? It's probably a statistical certainty based on 9-fans being a fairly fixed-size group, which it does seem to be and human beings being remarkably similar in their ability to forget things. Max kudos to Russ as usual for spotting it. Let's wait another approx 4 years less 3 weeks and see

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-11 Thread lucio
>> right on schedule! >> >> http://9fans.net/archive/2001/05/482  (may 31 2001) >> http://9fans.net/archive/2005/05/69   (may 7 2005) > > okay, that timing's just freaky. And I keep missing the crucial message :-( Freaky, definitely. Thanks for the explanation. Specially to Jim :-) ++L

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-11 Thread Anthony Sorace
> right on schedule! > > http://9fans.net/archive/2001/05/482  (may 31 2001) > http://9fans.net/archive/2005/05/69   (may 7 2005) okay, that timing's just freaky.

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-11 Thread Russ Cox
> I still can't figure what "typestr" does in the C compiler! right on schedule! http://9fans.net/archive/2001/05/482 (may 31 2001) http://9fans.net/archive/2005/05/69 (may 7 2005) russ

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-11 Thread lucio
>> Makes perfect sense for Chapman's purposes. Replace steel >> with aluminium. Fiberglass instead of sheet metal and so on. >> Unfortunately we don't have exact analogs in s/w. We can >> only simplicate; we can't add lightness! > > read ken's code! I still can't figure what "typestr" does in t

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-10 Thread John P. Cummings
Skip Tavakkolian wrote: ps, the quote is "Simplify, then add lightness" On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:30 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: Is this sarcasm? yes, but not addressed towards Mr. Chapman, bless his cars. glad at least one person caught that. internet is bizarro world.

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread Bakul Shah
On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:10:47 MDT andrey mirtchovski wrote: > > Unfortunately we don't have exact analogs in s/w. We can > > only simplicate; we can't add lightness! > > but somehow we can add "weight". can't we? bash is perceivably > "heavier" than rc, xml perceivably "heavier" than 9p... stat

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread LiteStar numnums
what, no SOAP? Not enterprise ready. On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:43 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > i propose an extension to HTTP (call it HTTPeeLite) which allows me to > specify in my request to that webpage the format in which i prefer to > receive the man page. a 'setup' exchange can be sent be

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread Robert Raschke
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Bakul Shah wrote: > Unfortunately we don't have exact analogs in s/w.  We can > only simplicate; we can't add lightness! In manufacturing, I'd suppose lighter materials are harder to make and use, kind of like using low level languages for components. Standard op

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread erik quanstrom
> Makes perfect sense for Chapman's purposes. Replace steel > with aluminium. Fiberglass instead of sheet metal and so on. > Unfortunately we don't have exact analogs in s/w. We can > only simplicate; we can't add lightness! read ken's code! - erik

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> Unfortunately we don't have exact analogs in s/w. We can > only simplicate; we can't add lightness! but somehow we can add "weight". can't we? bash is perceivably "heavier" than rc, xml perceivably "heavier" than 9p... statlite() perceivably "heavier" than stat() :) we just don't quantify "wei

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread Bakul Shah
On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 15:31:35 MDT andrey mirtchovski wrote: > ps, the quote is "Simplify, then add lightness" Makes perfect sense for Chapman's purposes. Replace steel with aluminium. Fiberglass instead of sheet metal and so on. Unfortunately we don't have exact analogs in s/w. We can only si

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> according to wikiquote.org it is "Simplicate, then add lightness". yes, it's even better than how i remember it!

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> ps, the quote is "Simplify, then add lightness" > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:30 PM, andrey mirtchovski > wrote: >>> Is this sarcasm? >> >> yes, but not addressed towards Mr. Chapman, bless his cars. glad at >> least one person caught that. >> >> internet is bizarro world. >> according to wiki

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread andrey mirtchovski
ps, the quote is "Simplify, then add lightness" On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:30 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: >> Is this sarcasm? > > yes, but not addressed towards Mr. Chapman, bless his cars. glad at > least one person caught that. > > internet is bizarro world. >

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> Is this sarcasm? yes, but not addressed towards Mr. Chapman, bless his cars. glad at least one person caught that. internet is bizarro world.

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread Steve Simon
> in the immortal words of Colin Chapman: "Complicate, then add weight". Is this sarcasm? I remember the quote as: "To add speed, add lightness" -Steve

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread Mechiel Lukkien
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 03:22:48PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > Already part of HTTP > > > > > > Accept: application/msword; q=1, application/pdf; > > > q=0.5,application/x-troff-ms; q=0.3 > > > > > > q is the level of preference, you'll get word docs first > > > > > > > > > > Wow. Could it

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:22 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> > Already part of HTTP >> > >> > Accept: application/msword; q=1, application/pdf; >> > q=0.5,application/x-troff-ms; q=0.3 >> > >> > q is the level of preference, you'll get word docs first >> > >> > >> >> Wow. Could it get any worse? > > y

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread erik quanstrom
> > Already part of HTTP > > > > Accept: application/msword; q=1, application/pdf; > > q=0.5,application/x-troff-ms; q=0.3 > > > > q is the level of preference, you'll get word docs first > > > > > > Wow. Could it get any worse? yes. just read a few lines further in the rfc and note that there's

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:05 PM, maht wrote: > andrey mirtchovski wrote: >> >> i propose an extension to HTTP (call it HTTPeeLite) which allows me to >> specify in my request to that webpage the format in which i prefer to >> receive the man page. a 'setup' exchange can be sent beforehand to >> est

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread maht
andrey mirtchovski wrote: i propose an extension to HTTP (call it HTTPeeLite) which allows me to specify in my request to that webpage the format in which i prefer to receive the man page. a 'setup' exchange can be sent beforehand to establish the available types of documentation (.doc, .pdf, .te

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread Anthony Sorace
from the man pages^W^Wpdf: // FUTURE DIRECTIONS // // None. we should be so lucky.

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Thu Apr  9 13:44:50 EDT 2009, mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: >> i propose an extension to HTTP (call it HTTPeeLite) which allows me to >> specify in my request to that webpage the format in which i prefer to >> receive the man page. a 'setup

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> or you could refrain from making the web any worse by just > providing the document in ... oh, what's that archane format ... > right, html.  if i recall correctly, it's the standard for web content. in the immortal words of Colin Chapman: "Complicate, then add weight".

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread erik quanstrom
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:25 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > On Thu Apr  9 13:19:11 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: > >> www.pdl.cmu.edu/posix > >> > >> statlite() > > > > the statlite man page is itself lightweight, being available > > on the web in pdf form. > > And MS doc! There's a common

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Apr 9 13:44:50 EDT 2009, mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: > i propose an extension to HTTP (call it HTTPeeLite) which allows me to > specify in my request to that webpage the format in which i prefer to > receive the man page. a 'setup' exchange can be sent beforehand to > establish the availab

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread andrey mirtchovski
i propose an extension to HTTP (call it HTTPeeLite) which allows me to specify in my request to that webpage the format in which i prefer to receive the man page. a 'setup' exchange can be sent beforehand to establish the available types of documentation (.doc, .pdf, .tex, .rtf, etc).

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:25 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Thu Apr  9 13:19:11 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: >> www.pdl.cmu.edu/posix >> >> statlite() > > the statlite man page is itself lightweight, being available > on the web in pdf form. And MS doc! There's a common Unix-y file format.

Re: [9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Apr 9 13:19:11 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote: > www.pdl.cmu.edu/posix > > statlite() the statlite man page is itself lightweight, being available on the web in pdf form. - erik

[9fans] extensions of "interest"

2009-04-09 Thread ron minnich
www.pdl.cmu.edu/posix statlite() ron