Re: [9fans] a question on style

2008-08-05 Thread erik quanstrom
> > OK, am I just out of date or is there a real reason for linker > > sets? > > I see it this way: > > using linker sets means you have to learn and understand the linkers > language > to understand how the system is configured (when trying to track down a > problem) > > usi

Re: [9fans] a question on style

2008-08-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pietro Gagliardi schrieb: > On Aug 1, 2008, at 11:37 AM, Steve Simon wrote: > >>> OK, am I just out of date or is there a real reason for linker >>> sets? >> >> I see it this way: >> >> using linker sets means you have to learn and understand the linkers >> language >> to understand how the system

Re: [9fans] a question on style

2008-08-01 Thread erik quanstrom
> > but all the world uses GCC > > nowadays, so why bother with portability anymore? > > and then when you look at compiling for particular platforms you get to ask > "which gcc?" because code can be non-portable between them > (for the same processor), and the options that work are different to

Re: [9fans] a question on style

2008-08-01 Thread Charles Forsyth
> but all the world uses GCC > nowadays, so why bother with portability anymore? and then when you look at compiling for particular platforms you get to ask "which gcc?" because code can be non-portable between them (for the same processor), and the options that work are different too. such fu

Re: [9fans] a question on style

2008-08-01 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
On Aug 1, 2008, at 11:37 AM, Steve Simon wrote: OK, am I just out of date or is there a real reason for linker sets? I see it this way: using linker sets means you have to learn and understand the linkers language to understand how the system is configured (when trying to track down a p

Re: [9fans] a question on style

2008-08-01 Thread Steve Simon
> OK, am I just out of date or is there a real reason for linker > sets? I see it this way: using linker sets means you have to learn and understand the linkers language to understand how the system is configured (when trying to track down a problem) using a bit of scri

Re: [9fans] a question on style

2008-08-01 Thread erik quanstrom
> > > Now, on the other hand, I guess kernel is different though. > > > Isn't it supposed to be one huge piece of magic to begin with? ;-) > > > > it's supposed to be neither. > > Yeah, but Ron was talking 'bout that kernel from Scandinavia, > right? uff-da. - erik

Re: [9fans] a question on style

2008-08-01 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 06:06 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > Now, on the other hand, I guess kernel is different though. > > Isn't it supposed to be one huge piece of magic to begin with? ;-) > > it's supposed to be neither. Yeah, but Ron was talking 'bout that kernel from Scandinavia, right?

Re: [9fans] a question on style

2008-08-01 Thread erik quanstrom
> Now, on the other hand, I guess kernel is different though. > Isn't it supposed to be one huge piece of magic to begin with? ;-) it's supposed to be neither. - erik

Re: [9fans] a question on style

2008-08-01 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 15:02 -0700, ron minnich wrote: > OK, am I just out of date or is there a real reason for linker > sets?This question just came up in linuxbios v3 and I am wondering if > I am a stubborn old coot (likely) or if there really is merit to my > dislike of linker sets. I tend to d

Re: [9fans] a question on style

2008-07-31 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:17 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> OK, am I just out of date or is there a real reason for linker >> >> sets?This question just came up in linuxbios v3 and I am wondering if >> >> I am a stubborn old coot (likely) or if there really is merit to my >> >>

Re: [9fans] a question on style

2008-07-31 Thread erik quanstrom
> >> OK, am I just out of date or is there a real reason for linker > >> sets?This question just came up in linuxbios v3 and I am wondering if > >> I am a stubborn old coot (likely) or if there really is merit to my > >> dislike of linker sets. > > > > why can't both be true? > > > > I suspect bot

Re: [9fans] a question on style

2008-07-31 Thread ron minnich
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:04 PM, erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> OK, am I just out of date or is there a real reason for linker >> sets?This question just came up in linuxbios v3 and I am wondering if >> I am a stubborn old coot (likely) or if there really is merit to my >> dislike of

Re: [9fans] a question on style

2008-07-31 Thread erik quanstrom
> OK, am I just out of date or is there a real reason for linker > sets?This question just came up in linuxbios v3 and I am wondering if > I am a stubborn old coot (likely) or if there really is merit to my > dislike of linker sets. why can't both be true? - erik

[9fans] a question on style

2008-07-31 Thread ron minnich
For some time now, over 10 years anyway, the GNU world has been using the linker to create initialized structs, viz: static const struct cpu_driver driver __cpu_driver = { .ops = &cpu_dev_ops, .id_table = cpu_table, }; (this from linuxbios) The __cpu_driver is passed to the linker