Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-03 Thread lucio
> I'm not afraid of people challenging mainstream opinions (this is Plan9, > isn't it? :-D), I'm afraid of people doubting about evident facts or simply > ignoring them: climatic changes? unsustainable distribution of wealth? > parents negating their kids misbehavior? inadequate legal systems for t

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-03 Thread Giacomo Tesio
2016-04-03 6:42 GMT+02:00 : > > We are already trained to be suspicious about the truth even when it's > > clearly evident, now we can even start to ignore the information from the > > physical world, while accepting the virtual information that someone else > > feed us. > > For an Italian inherit

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-02 Thread lucio
> We are already trained to be suspicious about the truth even when it's > clearly evident, now we can even start to ignore the information from the > physical world, while accepting the virtual information that someone else > feed us. For an Italian inheriting the legacy of Galileo Galilei, you s

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-02 Thread lucio
> I'm not sure if we will become entirely virtual. That would require us > to give up sex. :) I don't think we humans will give up such things so > easily. I'm sure that in a society of information bubbles, the very concept of sexual gratification will be nothing more than an atavistic idea :-)

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-02 Thread lucio
> When you get near your favorite Chinese restaurant, a balloon could > appear in your view, giving you access to information about it. When > GPS magic detects that a friend of yours is nearby, an friendly-looking > arrow appears, indicating the general direction and approximate distance > to him

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-02 Thread hiro
i don't use acme.

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-02 Thread Richard Miller
> It's not social to send HTML mails to this mailing list. > I don't like your typesetting. If you read it with acme mail, you don't see any typesetting ☺

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-02 Thread hiro
It's not social to send HTML mails to this mailing list. I don't like your typesetting. On 4/1/16, Giacomo Tesio wrote: > While funny in it's visionary shape, I'm seriously scared about this > matter. > > Take for example Google's material design: any software that successfully > mimic the physic

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-01 Thread cigar562hfsp952fans
Staven writes: > It's not worth it. > > You'll probably think I'm just being flippant, but I'm not. > > It's just not worth it. That's another interesting & novel way to re-think social networking: just don't have anything to do with it! Indeed, that's pretty much the approach that I've ended u

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-01 Thread Giacomo Tesio
While funny in it's visionary shape, I'm seriously scared about this matter. Take for example Google's material design: any software that successfully mimic the physical world (paper layers in particular) is going to bland our perception of its "virtuality". Our mind is going to accept it as a phy

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-01 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 04/01/2016 04:00 PM, cigar562hfsp952f...@icebubble.org wrote: lu...@proxima.alt.za writes: For that is what social media provide: a world-wide stage on which you perform selections from your real life and any fantasy life you choose Very interesting. I was envisioning a system which woul

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-01 Thread cigar562hfsp952fans
lu...@proxima.alt.za writes: > I don't even remember the name of the feature, but I used a tool way > back in the very early days of a public Internet (it was called a MOO, > Given a browser-style interface with 3D capabilities, it would address > social networking considerably better than Facebo

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-01 Thread cigar562hfsp952fans
Winston Kodogo writes: > That's an awfully long troll. Or "epic-length". :) Perhaps your smartphone didn't display to you item #9 in TOP. What you (incorrectly) call a "troll" I call "prebuttle". It makes discussion much more efficient if all the obvious issues/ questions/answers are gotten ou

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-01 Thread cigar562hfsp952fans
Kurt H Maier writes: > Your post advocates a > > (x) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante > > approach to social networking. Your idea will not work. Here is why it > won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to your particular > idea, and it may have other flaws w

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-04-01 Thread michaelian ennis
You had me at cigar. Ian

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-03-31 Thread Steve Simon
😀 > On 31 Mar 2016, at 03:09, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > > > cd /n/facebook > > cd / > unmount /n/facebook > rm -fr /sys/src/cmd/facebook* /*/bin/facebookfs

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-03-31 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 11:17:30AM +0100, David Pick wrote: > On 31/03/16 10:03, hiro wrote: > > > people would probably not talk with me if they had to 2-factor first. > > they just ring and that's it. > > But that *is* two-factor: they're using something you have (the > telephone number) and a

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-03-31 Thread Iain Watson Smith
i'd pay you... to think of an answer. On 31 March 2016 at 21:17, David Pick wrote: > On 31/03/16 10:03, hiro wrote: > > > people would probably not talk with me if they had to 2-factor first. > > they just ring and that's it. > > But that *is* two-factor: they're using something you have (the >

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-03-31 Thread David Pick
On 31/03/16 10:03, hiro wrote: > people would probably not talk with me if they had to 2-factor first. > they just ring and that's it. But that *is* two-factor: they're using something you have (the telephone number) and a biometric (your voice). -- David Pick Network Security Manager, IT Servi

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-03-31 Thread hiro
people would probably not talk with me if they had to 2-factor first. they just ring and that's it.

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-03-30 Thread lucio
Nice job, if a touch taxing :-) > A social network has to be stupid-compatible if it's going to be > successful. But it also has to be smart-compatible, i.e., done the > "right" way, if we are to keep from going insane. ;) I don't even remember the name of the feature, but I used a tool way bac

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-03-30 Thread Bakul Shah
> > cd /n/facebook > > cd / > unmount /n/facebook > rm -fr /sys/src/cmd/facebook* /*/bin/facebookfs Agree. FB is so last decade!

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-03-30 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> cd /n/facebook cd / unmount /n/facebook rm -fr /sys/src/cmd/facebook* /*/bin/facebookfs

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-03-30 Thread Staven
It's not worth it. You'll probably think I'm just being flippant, but I'm not. It's just not worth it.

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-03-30 Thread Bakul Shah
On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 23:40:03 - cigar562hfsp952f...@icebubble.org wrote: > The Plan 9 Way > == > > So, if social networking were to be re-designed from scratch, all over > again, "the Plan 9 way", how would it be done? > > Obviously, the network would present itself as a file syste

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-03-30 Thread Winston Kodogo
Well, that takes me back. I haven't seen a variant of that response in over 10 years. Although "Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with Yahoo" in the last one I saw is probably fair comment in the case of what's left of the company formerly known as NZ Telecom. On 31 March 201

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-03-30 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:40:03PM +, cigar562hfsp952f...@icebubble.org wrote: > Greetings, 9fans! > Your post advocates a (x) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante approach to social networking. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the fo

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-03-30 Thread Winston Kodogo
That's an awfully long troll. Some people have a lot of time on their hands. And it's not yet April Fool's day, even in New Zealand. On 31 March 2016 at 12:40, wrote: > Greetings, 9fans! > > We all know that Plan 9 started as a retrospective "re-take" on UNIX, > occasionally referred to as "UNIX

[9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

2016-03-30 Thread cigar562hfsp952fans
Greetings, 9fans! We all know that Plan 9 started as a retrospective "re-take" on UNIX, occasionally referred to as "UNIX done right". This has led to differences between "the Plan 9 way" of doing something vs. "the UNIX way" of doing it, such as those highlighted by the infamous "Unix to Plan 9