Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-18 Thread Patrick Kelly
Hyper-V is negative for 2008r2.

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-17 Thread Georg Lehner
Joel C. Salomon wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Federico G. Benavento wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Joel C. Salomon wrote: My computer died, so I'm in the market for a new one. I figure I'd like to get back into hacking on Plan 9 so I plan to install it beneath a VM

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-16 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 16 Apr 2010, at 18:48, Patrick Kelly wrote: The only emulator you're spending time on is Qemu, the rest are virtualizers or simulators, and there is a significant difference. Emulators are much slower, because of what they have to do. Qemu is capable of full emulation, but when host & gue

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-16 Thread James Chapman
This afternoon I downloaded a trial version of VM Fusion (Version 3.0.2 (232708)) and a fresh plan9.iso.bz2 and installed it on my core 2 due macbook running OS X Leopard (Version 10.5.8). It works quite nicely, graphics and networking are both working. The only things that tripped me up were I ha

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-16 Thread Patrick Kelly
> > > > The only emulator you're spending time on is Qemu, the rest are > > virtualizers or simulators, and there is a significant difference. > > Emulators are much slower, because of what they have to do. > > Qemu is capable of full emulation, but when host & guest architecture match > (or are

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-16 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 16 Apr 2010, at 17:40, Patrick Kelly wrote: From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of Rodolfo (kix) Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:20 AM To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Subject: Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install I am agreed

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-16 Thread Patrick Kelly
> -Original Message- > From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of > Joel C. Salomon > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:51 AM > To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs > Subject: Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install > &

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-16 Thread Patrick Kelly
>From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of >Rodolfo (kix) >Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 2:20 AM >To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs >Subject: Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install > >I am agreed with Federico, >vmware

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-16 Thread Joel C. Salomon
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Federico G. Benavento wrote: > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Joel C. Salomon > wrote: >> My computer died, so I'm in the market for a new one. I figure I'd >> like to get back into hacking on Plan 9 so I plan to install it >> beneath a VM in whatever machine

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-15 Thread Rodolfo (kix)
I am agreed with Federico, vmware. Do not spend time with other emulators. El 15 de abr de 2010, 9:02 p.m., "Federico G. Benavento" < benave...@gmail.com> escribió: vmware, the rest just suck, qemu and virtual box being the slowest On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Joel C. Salomon wrote: > My

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-15 Thread erik quanstrom
> There are probably better file server configurations, > but essentially I don't really trust fossil from a performance > or stability standpoint. it's curious that fossil is typically considered the only choice. what about ... - kfs - cwfs - ken's fs in another vm. - erik

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-15 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
ymmv, but here are two configurations I use: VMware fusion on Mac -- but only to run cpu/fs/auth -- I use either drawterm or ACME-sac to get into it. It is very snappy. Easily as snappy (for me) as my standalone Plan 9 equivalent and I do basically all my work in this environment. I do not r

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-15 Thread Gabriel Diaz
Hello erik, Thursday, April 15, 2010, 8:44:08 PM, you wrote: >> main issue is interrupt count does not go below 4000. . .need to dig more >> into this, probably to compose a mail to the list :), but it does not hurt >> too much, at least for now. > that shouldn't be happening unless you're doi

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-15 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Apr 15 14:57:21 EDT 2010, benave...@gmail.com wrote: > vmware, the rest just suck, qemu and virtual box being > the slowest there are relatively easy things we could do to make virtual box better, but as it doesn't run well on linux, it's hard to find the motivation. - erik

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-15 Thread Federico G. Benavento
vmware, the rest just suck, qemu and virtual box being the slowest On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Joel C. Salomon wrote: > My computer died, so I'm in the market for a new one.  I figure I'd > like to get back into hacking on Plan 9 so I plan to install it > beneath a VM in whatever machine I b

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-15 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
i would think that 9vx is the logical choice for linux. the free vmware player works well on vista and win7. i used qemu for a while and it seemed stable and usable. > My computer died, so I'm in the market for a new one. I figure I'd > like to get back into hacking on Plan 9 so I plan to instal

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-15 Thread erik quanstrom
> main issue is interrupt count does not go below 4000. . .need to dig more > into this, probably to compose a mail to the list :), but it does not hurt > too much, at least for now. that shouldn't be happening unless you're doing a lot of disk/network io. if you're using 9atom, one would expec

Re: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-15 Thread Gabriel Díaz
es not hurt too much, at least for now. slds. gabi - Original Message From: Joel C. Salomon To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net> Sent: Thu, April 15, 2010 7:11:49 PM Subject: [9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install My computer died, so I'm i

[9fans] Recommended emulators/VMs for P9 install

2010-04-15 Thread Joel C. Salomon
My computer died, so I'm in the market for a new one. I figure I'd like to get back into hacking on Plan 9 so I plan to install it beneath a VM in whatever machine I buy. I'm even considering Windows 7 Pro with Virtual PC, but I think I'd prefer Xen or one of the Linux-based things (VirtualBox, e