Re: [9fans] RAID box with plan9 filesystem

2011-12-28 Thread Charles Forsyth
Many file servers using disk drives are "unreliable" if you shut them down without saving data in memory first. Both /sys/src/fs and disk/kfs force certain metadata updates to disk first to try to ensure that the fs structure, if not the content, remains consistent. In fact, disk/kfs does more than

Re: [9fans] RAID box with plan9 filesystem

2011-12-27 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
Yaroslav wrote: > Recovery means initializing the filesystem using the given vac scrore, > with no implied data transfer - blocks are copied-on-write. Thanks for the explanation. -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] RAID box with plan9 filesystem

2011-12-26 Thread Yaroslav
2011/12/25 Aram Hăvărneanu : >> My experience with fossil has been somewhere between the two, >> but it's very easy to recover if you're using it with venti. > > What does this recovery mean?  Does fossil need to be repopulated, an > O(n) operation, or does it act merely as a cache that gets cold?

Re: [9fans] RAID box with plan9 filesystem

2011-12-25 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
Anthony Sorace wrote: > Make sure you're not confusing kfs with Ken's file server, sometimes > (confusingly) called "kenfs". [...] > Ken's file server is extremely solid, and I believe cwfs is comparable > (although I don't have nearly as much experience with it). kfs is much less > so; I've had it

Re: [9fans] RAID box with plan9 filesystem

2011-12-24 Thread Anthony Sorace
> I want to use venti for permanent storage. For temporary storage that > might or might not be saved to venti, I don't know, I've been thinking > of cwfs. I've heard it's as reliable as kfs, though I never had any > issue with any Plan9 filesystem. Make sure you're not confusing kfs with Ken's

Re: [9fans] RAID box with plan9 filesystem

2011-12-24 Thread Steve Simon
You can use kfs or cwfs with venti but the usual combination is venti with fossil, this is more of a symbiotic arrangmenet than venti would be with the others. Cwfs contains an archival server and a short term store like venti and fossil. mirroring and striping is possible with cwfs's backend, or

Re: [9fans] RAID box with plan9 filesystem

2011-12-24 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
I want to build a Plan9 storage server for home, so I figured this thread might be a good place to ask. I know nothing about what hardware to buy. I want to use venti for permanent storage. For temporary storage that might or might not be saved to venti, I don't know, I've been thinking of cwfs.

[9fans] RAID box with plan9 filesystem

2011-12-21 Thread tlaronde
Hello, Perhaps somebody will have hints about the following. I work with ou for small to middle sized enterprises, that can have the need for a GIS infrastructure. The data is the crux; but the evolution of data, and the ability to be able to view the state of data at -MM-DD hh:mm:ss to comp