Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-11 Thread Russ Cox
> Does anyone have trouble booting new installations of plan9 on > vmware6? I turn off hwaccel, load the os, and after the install > completes and the system reboots it just hangs. I am still using > systems built on Mahmoud's vmware image (for which I am indeed > grateful). Delete the CD drive fr

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-11 Thread John Waters
I have an LG A1 "Dual Express" notebook that I bought here in Riyadh a few months ago. It also has a PRPD (pseudorandom pointing device) and it has nearly driven me to the point of spazzing out on several occasions. Other than that it is a great litte laptop. Since it has an external USB device I

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-10 Thread david bulkow
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 11:03 PM, Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think the virtual to physical mapping provides as much > insight into memory usage as you might think... > > My understanding of the way it works in Linux (in the default > Intel configuration) is that the 4GB virtua

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-10 Thread Uriel
> Anyway - I found an old Thinkpad 600 in my junk box. Anyone know > if that would make a useable Plan9 machine? Should work fine, I have ran Plan 9 on 600E and 600X for years... they can still build a kernel in under a minute if my memory doesn't fail me (certainly not much more). uriel

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-10 Thread matt
3 buttons and a nipple not a touchpad no Windows key :) These are concrete assets. I know, that's why I reported them. Chording with a touchpad is something you could show at a circus. I'm running low on three button mouses too :(

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread lucio
> 3 buttons and a nipple not a touchpad > > no Windows key :) These are concrete assets. I know at least one other laptop user (I have an old Compac Presario 900, he has a newer Acer or some such) that manages to trigger the touchpad without touching it. Very, very annoying. As for the Windows

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread Digby Tarvin
I don't think the virtual to physical mapping provides as much insight into memory usage as you might think... My understanding of the way it works in Linux (in the default Intel configuration) is that the 4GB virtual address space is split into 2 areas, the upper 1GB being a direct mapping to the

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 16:45 +0100, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > than a Cray, but Linux isn't *that* demanding is it? > > last week i added 1gb RAM to my previously 512mbyte lenovo (3000 N100) to stop > the linux system from thrashing. all i run directly is firefox and drawterm. > the system was fin

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread ron minnich
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I could well believe that Vista would struggle on anything less > than a Cray, but Linux isn't *that* demanding is it? > Linux is an utter porker. ubuntu on my T23 is really awful, I fixed it by turning most of it off. The

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente
I am trying Eeepc... But I've had a lot of work lately, so I've fallen into the lunix dark side in the meanwhile. I think it is "mostly" an usb bootability matter. Eeepc ain't very exotic... On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:41 PM, matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Back in March people were trying the EEE

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread matt
Back in March people were trying the EEEPC with slight progress - did anyone get any joy there ? I have a T23 which is a good Plan 9 laptop with Orinoco PCMCIA WiFi, though I've not tried the AC97 They are under 200 euros on ebay with 512Mb & 80Gb 1024x768 screen 3 buttons and a nipple not

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente wrote: What did get so wrong that now people are willing to pay for a 1GiB ram minimum resource predator? 1. We allowed the revenue generation plans of the processor & memory manufacturers drive the client machine design agenda through their software part

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Jun 9 12:14:50 EDT 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Who needs firefox having abaco ;) > anyone who wishes to access a site depending on javascript. - erik

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread Digby Tarvin
Actually, since you mention it, a Toshiba Libretto is one of the 'modest' machines I have Linux running on: Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=linux/xaccel ro root=306 BOOT_FILE=/boot/vmlinuz monitor=xaccel Initializing CPU#0 Detected 166.637 MHz processor. Console: colour V

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente
Who needs firefox having abaco ;) In fact I think linux has become more and more bloa... I mean resource demanding lately. Some years ago I had a 100MHz IBM (Cyrix?) 8MiB ram machine that made marvels for me... It is impressive what we did with so "little"... 3d modelling, raytracing... What did g

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Jun 9 11:33:19 EDT 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I could well believe that Vista would struggle on anything less > than a Cray, but Linux isn't *that* demanding is it? > > I had a look at the T22 specs and they seem pretty respectable to > me, at least compared to some of the systems I

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread Charles Forsyth
> than a Cray, but Linux isn't *that* demanding is it? last week i added 1gb RAM to my previously 512mbyte lenovo (3000 N100) to stop the linux system from thrashing. all i run directly is firefox and drawterm. the system was fine at 512mbyte until a few weeks ago (when more updates arrived). i

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread Charles Forsyth
> Anyway - I found an old Thinkpad 600 in my junk box. Anyone know > if that would make a useable Plan9 machine? it should be fine.

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread Digby Tarvin
I could well believe that Vista would struggle on anything less than a Cray, but Linux isn't *that* demanding is it? I had a look at the T22 specs and they seem pretty respectable to me, at least compared to some of the systems I have Linux running on (eg 64MB, 266MHz Pentium MMX). And BSD is sti

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread Lorenzo Fernando Bivens de la Fuente
HP Omnibook XE3 with a PCMCIA Orinoco card works too. It is an oldie though On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Kernel Panic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Uriel wrote: >> >> The classic T22 with the SXGA+ screen seem to still be the best (you >> should get an orinoco pcmcia card for wifi, which is

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread lejatorn
T61 here. 1) Display working fine (intel X3100 chip). 2) At first I had problems with the ethernet and sata drivers but Erik fixed that. 3) Usb not always working (I have not investigated that thoroughly enough yet), but good enough for mouse. 4) Optical media burning somewhat working (dma deactiv

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-09 Thread Kernel Panic
Uriel wrote: The classic T22 with the SXGA+ screen seem to still be the best (you should get an orinoco pcmcia card for wifi, which is the only one supported anyway). And they can be found quite cheaply (around 300$ I think). Of course, if you also want to run a recent lunix version or vista, or

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-08 Thread Uriel
The classic T22 with the SXGA+ screen seem to still be the best (you should get an orinoco pcmcia card for wifi, which is the only one supported anyway). And they can be found quite cheaply (around 300$ I think). Of course, if you also want to run a recent lunix version or vista, or whatever, you p

Re: [9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-07 Thread ron minnich
I just got a fujitsu lifebook, which seems to be mostly compatible, or used to be. ron

[9fans] Laptop advice

2008-06-07 Thread lucio
I'm looking for a laptop that will run Plan 9 native and not sacrifice too many of its features in the process. High resolution screen and supported Wi-Fi (possibly add-on, in which case, please recommend a product and a source) are particularly desirable assets, audio would be nice. I won't mind