Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-17 Thread Mechiel Lukkien
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 01:50:42AM -0600, Daniel Lyons wrote: > > On Aug 14, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Akshat Kumar wrote: > > >Suggestions (model, company, etc.) welcome. > >Although, this thing can do photoscanning, copying, > >and faxing. I make great use of the former two, > >along with printing (of

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-17 Thread matt
I don't trust multifunction devices anyway. ^ "I hope that there are sour apples in every bushel." oops, wrong one "/Those days are dead and gone and the eulogy was delivered by Perl./" I did a Markov of Uriel, that was amusing but

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-17 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 14, 2009, at 8:12 PM, Akshat Kumar wrote: Suggestions (model, company, etc.) welcome. Although, this thing can do photoscanning, copying, and faxing. I make great use of the former two, along with printing (of course). I have a Samsung ML-2850ND, which I think stands for Monochrome La

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-16 Thread Akshat Kumar
Too bad I didn't initially try this, but if I send a print right after the timeout, I can get the whole print. The next time I want to print, however, I have to go through the same thing. So, a wasted paper for every print. Would still be great to not have the issue at all. ak

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-15 Thread Akshat Kumar
I appreciate the suggestions, and I'll definitely look into them when upgrades are in order. Making do with what we have, however, I can now successfully conversate with the printer, and initiate the print. But there is a problem: after the first line of output from the printer on the page, usb/p

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-15 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Akshat Kumar wrote: > gs(1) compiled fine with ijs driver - I hope it doesn't > need to be updated as well. Thanks for the information, > Russ. > > I found Prof. Okamoto's page on HPIJS 1.5 > port: http://basalt.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp/plan9/s54.html > (binaries linke

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-15 Thread Akshat Kumar
> However, I think you need the ijs > driver, which is not built by default (it probably should be). > To enable it, edit /sys/src/cmd/gs/mkfile to add ijs to the > device list and then rebuild using the instructions in the > mkfile. I thought I'd built gs(1) this way with proper ijs support, but

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> Suggestions (model, company, etc.) welcome. > Although, this thing can do photoscanning, copying, > and faxing. I make great use of the former two, > along with printing (of course). this isn't a recommendation. i don't have one. but i was thinking about getting something along the lines of thi

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread Akshat Kumar
gs(1) compiled fine with ijs driver - I hope it doesn't need to be updated as well. Thanks for the information, Russ. I found Prof. Okamoto's page on HPIJS 1.5 port: http://basalt.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp/plan9/s54.html (binaries linked). I'll look into the degree of changes made for the port. If it'

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> I thought IJS was also used to turn a raster into PCL, since IIRC some > non-business-class HP printers come with a stripped-down PCL 5e or > some such. > > I'm probably wrong again, though. I try to not think about the HP PDLs > too much. Probably it's not IJS I'm thinking of and some other cru

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread J.R. Mauro
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Russ Cox wrote: > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:37 PM, J.R. Mauro wrote: >> IJS is probably it; that's the PCL driver for the home-office class printers. > > IJS is not PCL. > > IJS is a custom protocol that is spoken between a bitmap-producing > program like Ghostscrip

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread Russ Cox
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:37 PM, J.R. Mauro wrote: > IJS is probably it; that's the PCL driver for the home-office class printers. IJS is not PCL. IJS is a custom protocol that is spoken between a bitmap-producing program like Ghostscript and a bitmap-printing program like /usr/bin/hpijs http://s

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread J.R. Mauro
IJS is probably it; that's the PCL driver for the home-office class printers. Akshat: PCL is proprietary but not closed; you can find references to it online. I would highly recommend never looking at PCL since it will make your eyes bleed. Hopefully the Ghostscript drivers will work for you. On

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread Russ Cox
If there is a Ghostscript output device for a printer, then you just need to edit /sys/lib/lp/devices to add an appropriate line giving the output device name and the file where the output goes. ; grep 'gs!' devices hpdeskjet - - /dev/lpt1data - gs!cdj670+nohead generic nospool - - - - canon

Re: [9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread Akshat Kumar
It seems the product specs page previously mentioned is out-of-date. This[1][2] one mentions LIDIL as the standard language, not PCL 3. Which perhaps makes things even more difficult. dying hopes of young lads, ak P.S.: I don't know anything about LIDIL. [1] http://ln-s.net/3uhn "Print driver

[9fans] HP: Printing with the Illiterate

2009-08-14 Thread Akshat Kumar
Wonderful, yes, it would be to print papers from my HP Officejet 5610 through my Plan 9 computers. However, the printer reads only HP's (proprietary?) PDL, called PCL (Printer Command Language)[1][2]. Viz., it does not understand Postscript. Any suggestions on getting Plan 9 to print on this? Bes