Thaddeus Woskowiak writes:
> I'm not a programming wiz but it would be nice to have a well supported
> language on Plan 9 besides c. I prefer that it be small and simple enough
> to git/clone then mk install and jump right in. A great example of the
> simplicity I'm after is the native port of Lua
ron minnich writes:
> I figure that at some point somebody is going to come in and show us a
> better way to do it. Should that happen, it's good to be aware of just how
> real the threats are. So I thought it would be nice to know, and possibly
> interesting as well.
Perhaps it's time to integra
Aleksandar Kuktin writes:
> I'd like to point out the problem with TPM is that, since the "trust"
> chain originates with the manufacturer, or more accurately with
> whomever controls the manufacturer, you'll never be in complete control
> of the device. "Trusted computing" in this scenario means
> I've printed my copy and plan to paint it using Rob's paint scheme.
Argh! I nuked Rob's original message with the paint scheme. Could
someone forward a copy to me directly?
Thanks!
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ron minnich writes:
> if you want to see an interesting example of the kind of machine we had in
> mind for NIX:
> https://www.esperanto.ai/technology/
They are very coy about pricing. The PCI-e card looks interesting,
but it you have to ask how much it costs ...
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Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) writes:
> Not replace.
Sorry, I meant to say 'not remove'.
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hiro writes:
> maybe we should get rid of secstore then? or how could it be made useful?
Not replace. Sectore is useful for more than just factotum.
But the sectore interface is very clunky, and I think that's
what turns people away from it. While I keep confidential
files other than factotum
jas.smoke via 9fans writes:
> I want to copy text files from a Windows PC to a Plan 9 computer using a US=
> B thumb drive.=C2=A0
Format the thumb drive as a FAT32 filesystem and stick the files
there. On the plan9 side, see dossrv(4) and examine /bin/c: for
an example of what to do. You'll nee
jas.smoke via 9fans writes:
> How do I set up and manage external storage devices in Plan 9?=C2=A0 I woul=
> d like to attach a USB thumb drive to move files.
Move to where? I.e. what destination OS?
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Marco Feichtinger writes:
> How can I pxe boot other machines, without my file server acting as dhcp se=
> rver for the whole network?
It might be possible, but not worth the effort. And with the blackbox
DHCP server in that router, it's likely impossible.
If your file server is up all the time,
This is great news, but just before I start throwing money your
way, it would be nice to know what you're planning to do with it.
Other than the announcements about the creation of the foundation
itself, and now this, it as been pretty much radio silence about
what you're planning to get up to.
Al
Yaroslav K writes:
> Do we know what=E2=80=99s up with 9p.io, the current sources host?
Pings (v4 and 6) to nearby addresses work, so it looks like the
host itself is down.
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Thaddeus Woskowiak writes:
> Has anyone written any code to deal with SCPI, Standard Commands for
> Programmable Instruments, on plan 9?
I did a couple of years ago, for the same reason: programmable PSUs and
to suck data down from an ocsilloscope. It never worked well, and I
have since lost the
hiro writes:
> > should each system role get his own user?
> > Like one user for file servers, one for auth, one for venti, and one for =
> cpu
> > servers.
My was has always been to have a file system user and an auth server
user that are used ONLY for those roles.
As for CPU servers, it really
Waaay back in Nov 2020 Skip sent a note to the list about some
preliminary work on a RISC-V port. Now that my VisionFive-2 dev
board has arrived I'm itching to try to get Plan9 running on it.
Has any progress been made since that last update?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/starfive/visionfi
Duckduckgo isn't happy with the above site's tls cert. Did it
expire? Or is something more nefarious happening ...
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ibrahim via 9fans writes:
> While on wait I'm intending to port the freebsd bluetooth stack (netgraph) =
> to plan9. I would be surprised if no one started such a project till now so=
> if someone shares this goal I would be interested in a cooperative work.=20
Huh. I'd never thought about looki
Alex Musolino writes:
> Seems so: https://github.com/iru-/9p4
Oh now that's slick! < 200 lines of code.
Thanks for the pointer.
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A short update on the RS-485 network project ...
I ordered up an assortment of RS-485 "hats" and USB serial ports
to play with. I also have an Axxon LF1006KB PCIe card that will
go into the CPU server as the "gateway" for the 485 network. It
should already work with the uartpci driver, but I'll
Just curious if anyone has attempted a 9P implementation in Forth?
This could be fun to play around with on things like Atmel AVRs.
I've had it to -->here<-- with the Arduino programming environment,
so *anything* different would be a joy :-)
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I booted 9legacy from a usb image and all is well. But ... how
am I supposed to get this installed on the machine's hard drive?
I can't find any sign of the installer scripts.
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When you do the initial install, interrupt the boot sequence and type
console=0 as the documentation describes. Install the system as usual,
then reboot and log in again using the consoole=0 dance. Once you're
logged in you can mount the 9fat partition (9fs 9fat) and then edit
/n/9fat/plan9.ini t
A few thoughts after chewing on this for a day ...
I think the major architecture components break down like this:
1) a simple protocol wrapper to enable streaming of 9p over arbitrary
transports (e.g. USB, i2c, spi, rs485).
2) an addressing scheme that plugs into dial() and ndb.
3) authenti
> The 9front /sys/src/9/zynq port is aiju board's kernel.
This reminds me to ask ... what did people get up to using their
aiju boards for? Sadly, mine has been sitting on the shelf collecting
dust for much too long. I did some early fiddling about, mostly
to learn the fpga toolchain, but then r
da...@boddie.org.uk writes:
> I am using 5a/tc/tl to build bare metal code for a STM32F405 MCU thanks
> to some hints from Charles Forsyth.
Could you post some notes on how you're doing that? This is something
I'd like to take for a spin.
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Bakul Shah writes:
> - make it very easy to create hardware gadgets by
> providing a firmware/hardware building block that
> talks 9p on the host interface side & interfaces
> with device specific hardware.
Amen! I've been thinking about something like this for years.
My specific use case
David du Colombier writes:
> If it works with 9front, the issue is definitely on our side.
> Our Virtio drivers are very close to 9front's, so I suspect
> the issue may be somewhere else.
If you think that's the case then I need to build out enough local
infrastructure to be able to build 9legacy
David du Colombier writes:
> I think the issue is elsewhere, since I've tried on QEMU with
> both Virtio 1.0 and Virtio legacy and it worked as expected
> (386 and amd64 kernels).
That could very well be. vmm(4) is still relatively young, so the
bug could very well be there. I think at this point
It gets a bit further -- now it actually panics :-P
: lyndon@orthanc:/u/vm; vmctl start -c clare
Connected to /dev/ttyp2 (speed 115200)
Boot failed: not a bootable disk
PBSR... F5CD 00B2
Plan 9 from Bell Labsi8042: kbdinit failed
no vga; serial console only
disk loader
cpu0: 5200MHz
David du Colombier writes:
> I've just imported Virtio 1.0 support to 9legacy.
> Lyndon, please try the latest CD image and let me know if it works for you.
Hah! You beat me to it ;-) ISO downloading now, stay tuned ...
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Are any of you running 9legacy under the vmm hypervisor on OpenBSD?
The kernel boots, but complains that it cannot find any fixed disks
and panics.
I was able to boot 9front, so it looks like 9legacy's virtio
drivers might be lagging a bit?
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Dworkin Muller writes:
> I have physical issues with trying to perform fine-grained mouse
> operations (uncontrollable small hand tremors).
[ ... ]
> So, my question is, are there any viable alternatives for use with
Joining the conversation late ... sorry. Have you thought about
mounting a serve
Steve Simon writes:
> until last year I still had a dual Atom machine which worked nicely but
> is a propper desktop machine even though its a mini ITX.
I have at least a half dozen mini-ITX boards lying around that I
can fall back on. The problem is I seem to have lost most of the
cases and/or
kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp writes:
> For the usb issue, amd64(9legacy) does not support usb mouse/keyboard,
> only ps2 keyboard/mouse. Is there any such machine having PS/2
> interface around?
Pretty much everything supports BIOS mapping from USB->PS/2. This is
one of the many reasons I was ask
hiro writes:
> sure you want just one sata disk for a fileserver? or is the worm all on bl=
> uray?
One disk is fine for now. The blu-ray is for backing up the arenas,
and yes, I'll deal with the xhci driver issues myself. (I can use
slower USB ports until I get that part running.)
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Time to build out some proper infrastructure at home, and the
first order of business is the file+auth server. I don't need
screaming fast performance, just something basic, and I have been
looking at some of the current crop of small form factor desktops,
along the lines of the Intel NUC. (But I
tlaronde pointed me at the APL that shipped in the contrib
directory in 4.3BSD. In hindsight I suspect that was the
version I spun up at Athabasca U way back when (1989ish).
I was quite surprised to see that a substantial chunk of it
managed to compile 'out of the box' on OpenBSD 6.8 (albeit
with
o...@eigenstate.org writes:
> git clone --single-branch \
> --branch Research-V4-Snapshot-Development \
I must be blind. I completely glossed over 'single-branch'.
But I might have to go back to the SCCS archive on the CDs,
anyway, since Spinellis' repo doesn't seem to ha
Steffen Nurpmeso writes:
> It can even be as small as
>
> #?0|kent:unix-hist$ du -sh .
> 179M.
>
> when not including all the new FreeBSD things (for which i at
> least track the FreeBSD git repository directly):
Okay, so what's the magic incantation to clone just that subset
of branches
tlaro...@polynum.com writes:
> There are various versions of an APL interpreter and, amongst these,
> a version by Ken Thompson, Ross Harvey, Douglas Lanam.
>
> Is that this one you are looking for?
That sounds like the one. It's entirely possible the version I
started with came from one of the
Long ago and far away I built/ran Thompson's APL (from the V7 source
tape IIRC) on one of the VAXen. This was very much pre-ANSI C code,
but the Ultrix 1.1 compiler handled it fine.
About 15 years ago I dusted off the source and started converting
it to ANSI C, but I got distracted and have since
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