Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-24 Thread Daode
lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: |> And cheap, energy efficient computers for poor kids, which is |> a good thing, | |I have access to a few thousands "poor kids", age 0 to 18. Could I |please have some of these "cheap, energy efficient computers" for |them? I can't help you there -- not from me

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-24 Thread Daode
Kurt H Maier wrote: |This is why harmful.cat-v.org is so important, and it's why I don't have These pages contain indeed several of the most stupid things i have read in a very long time. |macrocultures in the bud; otherwise we wind up with POSIX everywhere, and |an entire generation of compu

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-23 Thread Daode
andrey mirtchovski wrote: |both 9␦Front and 9␦Atom use U+180E, Mongolian Vowel Separator, to |stand between the digit and the letters. it is a zero-length space |signifying the major departure from the original canon. No, no longer -- it has become a control character in Unicode 6.3.0. --stef

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-23 Thread Daode
Blake McBride wrote: |I don't know what "console" is. I don't see anything at my Plan-9 Shell |(RC) or on the screen in general. Note that Francisco J. Ballesteros has written an excellent book on operating systems [1] that i also should read in total: «Introduction to Operating Systems Abst

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-19 Thread Daode
Blake McBride wrote: |On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: | |>> I was thinking about the problem and actually, at least in all |>> circumstances I can think of, changing that one operation from <= to < |>> would fix the problem. If the times are on the same second, I would

Re: [9fans] ca.pem

2013-12-03 Thread Daode
Skip Tavakkolian wrote: |root CA certificates. David's reply jogged my memory; if i recall, i cat'ed |/etc/ssl/certs/*.pem of the ubuntu box and it was so i could go get. I've not really followed it but there was a thread on OpenSSL-users which mentioned an issue ([1]). That thread mentioned a

Re: [9fans] [sources] applied patch: /n/atom/patch/applied/termrcnodhcp

2013-10-15 Thread Daode
erik quanstrom wrote: |- 9fans | |thanks for the interest! no, i'm just totally brain dead.

Re: [9fans] [sources] applied patch: /n/atom/patch/applied/termrcnodhcp

2013-10-15 Thread Daode
hmm, i'm braindead. And that made it especially hard to deal with ipconfig(8): by default, ipconfig exits after trying DHCP for 15 seconds with no answer --steffen --- Begin Message --- Hello, erik quanstrom wrote: |email | quans...@quanstro.net |readme | don't dhcp by default. it look

Re: [9fans] [sources] applied patch: /n/atom/patch/applied/termrcnodhcp

2013-10-15 Thread Daode
Hello, erik quanstrom wrote: |email | quans...@quanstro.net |readme | don't dhcp by default. it looks like a hang. [.] |+ #if(! test -e /net/ipifc/0/ctl || ~ 127.0.0.1 `{cat /net/ipifc/0/local}) |+ # ip/ipconfig >/dev/null >[2=1] [.] after looking into the ipconfig source and placing

Re: [9fans] VMware and 9atom

2013-10-10 Thread Daode
Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: |> If you want to run Plan 9 on VirtualBox, you have to use either |> the 4.1 branch (for example 4.1.26) or 4.2.14 and later. | |I can confirm that standard Plan 9 runs on virtualbox 4.2.18 on MacOSX |(tried it just now) I have (had) no issue(s) wit

Re: [9fans] cifs fails on nodes named aux

2013-08-28 Thread Daode
dexen deVries wrote: |On Wednesday 28 of August 2013 10:26:01 Erik Quanstrom wrote: |> the claim that the devices are in the directories and thus the file system |> is still false. even if explorer has some unnecessary code. and plan 9 is |> not immune from unnecessary weird bits e.g. the ex

Re: [9fans] cifs fails on nodes named aux

2013-08-28 Thread Daode
erik quanstrom wrote: |> > cifs is Windows, i think. |> > If this is the case, then you may run into the issue of implicit |> > filenames. Search «aux tale», or browse |> > . | |as entertaining as this is, is isn't true for dos. there |are no device files on dos in *any* directory. they

Re: [9fans] cifs fails on nodes named aux

2013-08-28 Thread Daode
Ingo Krabbe wrote: |Hey, | |I found a quite strange effect with cifs (plan9 bell labs edition). \ |I use cifs to mount werc installations from p9p linux servers. \ |Cifs is needed here, as the virtual hosted machine does not \ |support nfs. Maybe I should switch to another userspace filesyst

[9fans] How to mount 9atom

2013-08-27 Thread Daode
Jens Staal wrote: How can i mount 9atom? erik quanstrom wrote: |On Wed Jul 3 12:35:16 EDT 2013, quans...@quanstro.net wrote: |>if you're interested in the details on patches applied to 9atom |> |>echo subscribe | mail sources-ow...@9atom.org |> |>cf. mlmgr(8) http://www.9atom.org/magic/ma

Re: [9fans] off topic: full unicode support isn't easy

2013-07-24 Thread Daode
erik quanstrom wrote: |0. uncode support isn't binary. one might reasonably support a subset. But it is not that you are totally against supporting decomposition that includes Korean ("Hangul Syllable Decomposition", must be performed algorithmically)? It's only missing yet. |- erik --steff

Re: [9fans] off topic: full unicode support isn't easy

2013-07-24 Thread Daode
Kurt H Maier wrote: |On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 05:59:32AM +0300, Aharon Robbins wrote: |> FYI |> |> Creative usernames and Spotify account hijacking |> http://labs.spotify.com/2013/06/18/creative-usernames/ |> |> Arnold | |Seems the thrust of this article is more like "writing secure |pu

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files

2013-07-18 Thread Daode
erik quanstrom wrote: |if you have plan 9, or 9p working (say on linux or osx), then you can Hello! I now have a running 9atom system!! :-)) |"9fs 9atom". for plan 9 the incantation would be I've spend the last two weeks adding command line editing to the mailer i maintain, and am in the pr

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files [solved]

2013-07-08 Thread Daode
Yapadapad! While biking i became enlightened. Just disabled the network and it boots (VirtualBox 4.2.16, OS X). It seems the system hangs around trying to get some IP address via DHCP?? I don't know why it does so long (minutes) and requires such a lot of CPU time (though of the VM) doing

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files

2013-07-08 Thread Daode
Carl Phillips wrote: |On 08/07/13 13:06, Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: |> Now i only fail to get it working in VirtualBox; both of 4.2.14 |> (June 21th, 86644) and 4.2.16 (86992) hang after "init: starting |> /bin/rc" with 100% CPU time ("Live CD": ~28%). I hop

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files

2013-07-08 Thread Daode
erik quanstrom wrote: |> But then, unfortunately, there were quite some copy errors which |> caused the installation to fail. |> |> /n/[newfs - dist]/68020/lib/{ape,libc.a} |> /n/[newfs - dist]/alpha/lib/{ape,libc.a} |> /n/newfs/sys/src/pcpae/{archacpi,audioac97{,m},audiohd}.c |>

[9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files

2013-07-06 Thread Daode
Hello, today i finally made it to one of the things i was looking forward to, installing 9atom. It was a truly smooth experience. (Some `cannot set [gu]id on xy' messages, mostly for a `bootes' user in /usr and /cron, and also for secstore{,/store,/who}.) But then, unfortunately, there were quit

Re: [9fans] Character case mappings

2013-06-25 Thread Daode
erik quanstrom wrote: |> uuh, ok, 9atom seems to have seen a lot of progress compared to |> what i have yet looked at. | |just a few tables. and a bit of time spent applying them. ;-) |if you have plan 9 installed and can | | nflag=-n srv $nflag -q tcp!atom.9atom.org atom && |

Re: [9fans] Character case mappings

2013-06-24 Thread Daode
erik quanstrom wrote: |all the other rune tables work this way. there is one |table per property. having a structure doesn't fit the |current programming interface, nor usage. uuh, ok, 9atom seems to have seen a lot of progress compared to what i have yet looked at. I'm still waiting for som

[9fans] Character case mappings

2013-06-24 Thread Daode
'Thing is; i'm writing a Unicode aware library for ISO C99 aware environments (*earliest* alpha state) and at the moment i use binary searches (i only have display-widths and simple case mappings right now). For combined upper/lower case mappings i do end up with static struct _casemap { ui

Re: [9fans] ANTS: Better in every single way than standard plan 9. Stop using p9p.

2013-03-16 Thread Daode
I can't comment on the software. |THAT EASY Bhutan may be worth thinking of. |Ben Kidwell |"mycroftiv" --steffen

[9fans] 9front Acme unresponsive to key presses

2013-03-14 Thread Daode
Kurt H Maier wrote: |I don't think hiro was criticizing 9front as much as the fact that 9fans |seems to discuss p9p and vbox on osx more than any other software. I also installed 9front in the meanwhile (python, pfff), and learned that the (broken) hostname setup can be skipped during installat

Re: [9fans] Solicited VirtualBox submission (negative)

2013-03-14 Thread Daode
Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: |> Does QEMU run on Mac OS X at all? | |Sure. I never got it compiled; i tried again and failed even after light configure hacking. But really, i'm happy with VirtualBox and even got Plan9 installed in the meanwhile; first made the big too disk (DOS partition that is),

Re: [9fans] Solicited VirtualBox submission (negative)

2013-03-13 Thread Daode
Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: |No, really. You should try QEMU. I understand that newcomers might be |tempted to use VirtualBox because it worked well for them in the past, |but I see zero reason for us to recommend anything but QEMU while |actively discouraging VirtualBox. Does QEMU run on Mac OS X

[9fans] Yes, 4.1.24 works (Was: Re: Solicited VirtualBox submission (negative))

2013-03-13 Thread Daode
David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: |> Hello, |> VirtualBox 4.2.6 on Mac OS X does *not* work with | |As said earlier, Plan 9 is already known not to work |in VirtualBox 4.2. You should try VirtualBox 4.1. Indeed, and i reinstalled 4.1.24 in favour of 4.2.6 and booted the live ISO ju

[9fans] Solicited VirtualBox submission (negative)

2013-03-13 Thread Daode
Hello, VirtualBox 4.2.6 on Mac OS X does *not* work with plan9.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data \ 'PLAN 9 - DEC 8 2012 04:00 ' Memory ranges: 128 - 1024 MB. Chipset: PII3X with/out I/O APIC; ICH9. With/out PAE/NX. With/out hw-virt-acceleration. Video memory: 8 - 128 MB with/out 3D ac