Re: [9fans] plan9port acme imageinit: can't open font

Thanks for the pointers. I tried them and it didn't help. I suppose I'll move on without acme. If anyone is ever interested in taking a look at this, you can see from my original post what I am running. Thanks. Blake On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 10:26 AM Lucio De Re wrote: > You nay have to dele

[9fans] plan9port acme imageinit: can't open font

Greetings, I am running Plan9port on Fedora 35. When I run acme as root, it runs fine. However, when I try to run it as a regular user, I get: $ acme imageinit: can't open font /mnt/font/Courier/12a/font: 0��� acme: can't open display: 0��� $ Any help would be appreciated. Than

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

e click put etc) > > Thoughts? > On 19 Aug 2014 21:40, "Blake McBride" wrote: > >> B 'some directory name with spaces' >> >> does load the directory correctly. But as soon as you put the cursor >> into the directory acme changes the buffer head

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

B 'some directory name with spaces' does load the directory correctly. But as soon as you put the cursor into the directory acme changes the buffer header from "some directory name with spaces" to "some". Not supporting space in file/directory names has been the single biggest impediment to my u

[9fans] p9p on 64 bit Linux

X11-xcb.so.1 ./x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 ./x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so I think it may be looking for 32 bit shared libraries. I am not sure how things are getting built on a 64 bit environment. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. Blake McBride

Re: [9fans] acme: displaying one file in two windows

Thanks! On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Friedrich Psiorz wrote: > Zerox command. In the tag. > > ~Fritz > > Am 27.12.2013 04:20, schrieb Blake McBride: > > Greetings, > > > > Sometime it is convenient to display the one file in two independent > > win

[9fans] acme: displaying one file in two windows

. I searched and read the docs but couldn't find a way to do this. Is there? Thanks. Blake McBride

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

Hope my feedback is a help. I'm ready to try more whenever you are. Thanks! Blake On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:30 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Mon Dec 23 22:14:10 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote: > > > Thanks for the new boot trial. I am still getting an error on my HP as > > follows: > >

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

Thanks for the new boot trial. I am still getting an error on my HP as follows: ehci . qh . timed out (no inter?) It did boot but I am getting those errors on the screen. Please let me know if more info would be helpful. Hope this helps. Thanks! Blake On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 7:03

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

I am having trouble with that link. Is it correct? Thanks. Blake On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:11 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Thu Dec 19 20:54:04 EST 2013, conor.willi...@gmail.com wrote: > > > ack, thanks... > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:44 AM, erik quanstrom >wrote: > > > > > > her

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > ... > > Speaking of assumptions, I'm not convinced 'increasing the number of users' > does anyone any good. It didn't help Windows any. > > khm > Although number of users may not translate into a quality system (Microsoft is a prime example

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

ns.) And there are still a lot of things I don't understand when > interacting with them, just the other day dove into acme's source to answer > a question in #plan9 (about what the Abort command does.) > > Ruben > > > On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Blake McBride w

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

u can either take advantage of some of the feedback to make it easier for a newbie (that cannot reason) thus increasing the number of users, or you can insult them until they leave. I apologize for not being as smart as you. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > Quoting Blake

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

Or perhaps: echo newuser USER-NAME >>/srv/cwfs.cmd replace USER-NAME with the new user's name. If most commands are in lowercase, it might make sense to use uppercase names as things that need to be specified. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Blake McBride wrote: > It works

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

and when to type it literally. Perhaps the docs should say: echo newuser >>/srv/cwfs.cmd where is the name of the new user (without the <>). Thanks. Blake On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Bence Fábián wrote: > Did you append or truncate. That command should work. >

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

Amazing how something so simple could stump someone. Thanks! On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Alexander Kapshuk < alexander.kaps...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 12/23/2013 04:59 PM, Blake McBride wrote: > > BTW, how do I abort a command such as the cat /dev/kpeint?

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Sergey Zhilkin wrote: > Hello ! > From - https://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/admin > Adding Users > > Add a new user on the file server: > > echo newuser username >>/srv/cwfs.cmd > > The newuser filesystem command is described in the > fs(8)

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 10:52 PM, wrote: > the fdisk command i gave you could read the partition table fine. > (it didnt register them, just print) > > the code thats handling the automounting (/shr) should'v discovered > the partitions by running the same command but apparently that didnt > work

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

Great pointers. Thanks. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 3:34 AM, Steffen Daode wrote: > Blake McBride wrote: > |I don't know what "console" is. I don't see anything at my Plan-9 Shell > |(RC) or on the screen in general. > > Note that Francisco J. Ballesteros

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

to edit files with sam) or other confections. To install a > default profile for a new user, upon first login, run: > > . /sys/lib/newuser > > then edit /usr/username/lib/profile to your own specifications. > > See cwfs(4) <http://man.aiju.de/4/cwfs> and fs(8)<http

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

I use ASCII. Take your pick on how I display the three. On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 9:37 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > > While you're at it; is it "9-Front" (as Andrey said above) and "9-Atom"? > > So, space with "Plan 9" and dash with the other two? > > both 9᠎Front and 9᠎Atom use U+180E, Mongol

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Skip Tavakkolian < skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Blake McBride wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 6:03 PM, wrote: >> >>> >>> the drive might be sensitive to the timing? >>&g

[9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

Greetings, I've searched the net to find a way to add a new user. The following command doesn't work: con -l /srv/fscons I gather that command is for fossil, and fossil isn't used anymore. I poked around /srv but couldn't find a substitute. Appreciate any help. Blake

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 6:03 PM, wrote: > thats strange. when you plug in the drive, the nusbrc script > started the usb disk filesystem and run that fdisk command to > register the partitions. for some reason, the partitions > step failed. but when you run it manually later it wored. > I don't

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

Thanks. I freshly formatted the drive with a DOS partition and put some files on it for testing. It reads fine on another machine. When I issued your command I got: part dos 63 31301613 Also, where is a good place to read about formatting, mounting, accessing, flushing, and unmounting? Thanks

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

Thanks. I am using 9front on that machine. On /shr I have: d usb d usbnet Under /shr/usb I have: d sdU6.0 - usbevent Under /shr/usb/sdU6.0 I have: - ctl - data - raw Under /dev/sdU6.0 I also have: - ctl - data - raw I don't know what to do from her

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

Just for grins, without a network card, how can I mount/read/write to a DOS formatted USB drive? Thanks. On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:31 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > Okay, thanks! It is an ancient machine. Thought it would be a good > place > > to play with it on. No sense in messing with it f

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

Okay, thanks! It is an ancient machine. Thought it would be a good place to play with it on. No sense in messing with it further. On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:04 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Sun Dec 22 14:56:12 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote: > > > Sorry. > > > > 2.1.0 net 02.00.00 14e4

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

Sorry. 2.1.0 net 02.00.00 14e4/4401 11 0:faffe000 8192 On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 1:48 PM, wrote: > thats your graphics card (some radeon). i need the ethernet cad. > > pci | grep net > > -- > cinap > >

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

1.0.0: vid 03.00.00 1002/4c57 11 0:e808 134217728 1:c001 256 2:fcff 65536 Thanks! On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 1:07 PM, wrote: > what network card is in that machine? run the "pci" command and tell > us the vid/did. > > -- > cinap > >

[9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

Greetings, I installed 9Front on an old Dell Inspiron 5100. It seems to run fine. While installing it, it asked for dial-up numbers. Since the machine has an ethernet card I just typed in random info to get past the prompts. Now that it is running, I can't seem to get access to the ethernet ne

[9fans] 9Atom boot issue

feedback. Thanks. Blake McBride

[9fans] New release of Dynace on Plan-9

ftware/dynace Blake McBride (P.S. please make sure you get release 20131220 - in case you are seeing an old, cached web page.)

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > I see your point but would argue (in the most > > friendly way) that the case you point out would be extremely rare, while > > the reverse case is very common. > > "Correctness" (in the context of software engineering)

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > Quoting Blake McBride : > > There is a difference between valid arguments and club allegiance. >> > > You have not demonstrated a necessity for anyone subscribed to this > list to give a particular shit about whic

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Rudolf Sykora wrote: > Hello, > > On 19 December 2013 20:22, Blake McBride wrote: > > Agreed. I enjoy reasoned debate. I don't enjoy being told the reason is > > because "that's the way we do it". That is not reasoned

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:09 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > What I am beginning to understand from comments like this is that there > is > > a "club Plan-9". Everything ever done by the originators of "club > Plan-9" > > is correct, period. No mater what exceptions, special cases, or good > new >

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Skip Tavakkolian < skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com> wrote: > You can change anything you want on your system; but don't try to ram it > down others' throats unless you can prove that you're approach is (a) > correct (b) meets the collective sense elegance. Reasoned dis

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > Quoting Blake McBride : > > What I am beginning to understand from comments like this is that there is >> a "club Plan-9". Everything ever done by the originators of "club >> Plan-9" >>

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:07 AM, wrote: > // If you are working on a project, edit some files, and then > // perform a mk, if files you haven't changed get built, I for > // one would constantly question myself, about whether or > // not I changed that file. It would make things confusing. > >

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Tristan <9p...@imu.li> wrote: > > > how long does it take you to run mk, and then realise you didn't Put > your > > > last set of changes? > > > > i once changed mk on my local machine to act as you suggest, and then > > > took far too long trying to figure out wh

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

Yea, got that. I just thought it made sense for a wider audience. On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Jacob Todd wrote: > No one is stopping you from changing it in your installation. > On Dec 19, 2013 11:38 AM, "Blake McBride" wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Tristan <9p...@imu.li> wrote: > > I for one favor practical usefulness over theoretical correctness. An > > environment variable option would trivially satisfy both groups. It > could > > operate as-is so nothing pre-existing would be affected. > > how long does

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:16 AM, dexen deVries wrote: > the problem is not solved, merely one of the manifestation is eliminated. > actual solution requires stating all the dependencies. > > if your list of sources and/or targets is dynamic, consider using mkinclude: > <| GEN_DEPS > where `GEN_DEP

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > I was thinking about the problem and actually, at least in all > > circumstances I can think of, changing that one operation from <= to < > > would fix the problem. If the times are on the same second, I would > never > > have had time to

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:40 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > to be more explicit. if a is built from b and mtime(a) <= mtime(b), then > mk could fail to rebuild a when it needs to. for correctness, mk must > use <= > not <. > I was thinking about the problem and actually, at least in all circum

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:16 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > I think this is caused because the time slice is too short and the system > > can't tell the build times apart. Even though main clearly came after > main.8 > > the system sees them as the same time. Of course this can cause mk to > > do

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

Thanks for the encouragement. I'll move into other areas soon. I'll try to do as much research as possible before posting. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Matthew Veety wrote: > > > > On Dec 18, 2013, at 17:01, Blake McBride wrote: > > > > I apologize for

[9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

Greetings, I apologize for beating the heck out of the group. I admit that some of my questions are premature. I appreciate everyones help. I have a better handle on what is going on, and with that knowledge, I was able to restructure the mkfile to work correctly in parallel. I am encountering

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

Thanks. That is what I was wondering. In the interim, and having a better understanding of what is going on, I was able to re-work my mkfile to support parallel builds where possible. I am, however, experiencing a new problem. I will write that up in a separate post. Thank for the info! Blake

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

The problem is solved, but I do have questions that I couldn't the answer to in any of the docs. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:37 AM, dexen deVries wrote: > > > -s won't help you there, because it regards processing of /command line/ > arguments, not of prerequisites. consider: > > $ NPROC=1 mk my_ta

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

In particular, why would manual execution while echoing $status (to be sure no errors are reported) work, but mk execution of the exact same sequence not work? Thanks! Blake On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Blake McBride wrote: > In response to both of you: > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

In response to both of you: On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Blake McBride wrote: > ... > > I remain confident that there is a thought out, reasonable algorithm > employed by mk that I am yet ignorant of. > > Blake > > If you could point me in the right direction,

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

ignorant of. Blake On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Bakul Shah wrote: > On Wed, 18 Dec 2013 10:11:22 CST Blake McBride wrote: > > > > > > Somehow Unix or GNU "make" doesn't mix up buffered stdout with > unbuffered > > > stderr output. They remai

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

This is not D. It is a language of my own design called Dynace. It adds multiple inheritance, a metaobject protocol, generic functions, weak typing, garbage collection all to standard C. Class users (*.c files) are standard C in every way, there is only one data type added. The system is writte

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Blake McBride wrote: > > > Problem 3: > > Somehow Unix or GNU "make" doesn't mix up buffered stdout with unbuffered > stderr output. They remain in order so the total out of make and all of > the commands are shown in order a

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

Thanks for the help! See below: On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 9:37 AM, dexen deVries wrote: > On Wednesday 18 of December 2013 09:23:19 Blake McBride wrote: > > > > Problem 1: > > > > > it seems you have an un-stated dependency/cies among your intermediate > targets

[9fans] Problem with mk

Greetings, I have spent hours on a trivial problem that I still haven't figured out. I am using 9front, and I am building a C app using mk. I understand about that parallel stuff so I am calling mk with -s for now. There are actually three problems, but the fact that it won't build is clearly th

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

fact, I am renewing a port of an OO language extension to it. Blake On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Oleksandr Iakovliev wrote: > On 2013-12-15 18:05 , Blake McBride wrote: > > In spite of some really great ideas, I think we'd all agree that Plan-9 > has no real future. > &g

Re: [9fans] 9front pegs CPU on VMware

I am running a dual core setup. CPU info is: vendor GenuineIntel procmodel 00020655 / 00010800 features fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat features pse36 clflush dts mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss features pni pclmulqdq ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic popcnt aes hypervisor ex

Re: [9fans] 9front pegs CPU on VMware

Good point. I can't. On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 8:58 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote: > welcome to the club. now do the same thing with linux. and try to > regale your experience in less than 4 blogposts :) > >

Re: [9fans] 9front pegs CPU on VMware

Thanks. That fixed the problem. For the faint at heart, here is what I did: cd /sys/src/9/pc acme main.c At the bottom of the file there is a function named idlehands(void). Change that function to do nothing but call halt(). Then, from that same directory, build the kernel with:

[9fans] 9front pegs CPU on VMware

Greetings, I am running 9plan on VMware Fusion successfully, however, the CPU is pegged. I've seen this before with DOS. Basically the OS has its own idle loop so VMware sees it as always using CPU. There is a patch to fix this issue with a DOS guest. Any ideas with 9front? Thanks.

Re: [9fans] Compiling C under 9front

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 7:33 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Sun Dec 15 20:31:47 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote: > > > Greetings, > > > > I've got 9front running but I am having trouble compiling a hello.c > program. > > > > term% 6c hello.c > > term% 6l hello.6 > > ??none??: cannot open file:

[9fans] Compiling C under 9front

Greetings, I've got 9front running but I am having trouble compiling a hello.c program. term% 6c hello.c term% 6l hello.6 ??none??: cannot open file: /amd64/lib/libc.a I already looked in google, the email list, and FAQ's that I could find. Your help is appreciated. Blake McBride

Re: [9fans] 9front vs. 9atom

Will do. On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:37 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > I briefly looked at 9front and 9atom. I thought I would query this group > > about the two. Is one better maintained than the other? Does one have > > better hardware support than the other? > > i'd appreciate some feedback o

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Bence Fábián wrote: > > This whole discussion has devolved into all the exact same discussions > when someone comes to save us from ourselves. > If you are too lazy to look into the archives at least read this: > http://jfloren.net/b/2012/4/27/0 > > Yes, that sure

Re: [9fans] 9front vs. 9atom

Thank you, Tristan. On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Tristan <9p...@imu.li> wrote: > > Quoting Kurt... > > > Is one better maintained than the other? > > Yes. > 9atom. > > > > Does one have better hardware support than the other? > > Yes. > 9front. > > > khm > tristan > > -- > All original matte

[9fans] 9front vs. 9atom

ly, Plan-9 installed everywhere I tried but the graphics stuff didn't work.) I briefly looked at 9front and 9atom. I thought I would query this group about the two. Is one better maintained than the other? Does one have better hardware support than the other? Thanks for the help. Blake McBride

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Lee Fallat wrote: > ...Tell that to the people who are maintaining 9front and 9atom. > > I wasn't aware of those two. Thanks!

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

This whole discussion has devolved into a political left vs. right like debate. Suffice it to say that without a critical mass of users, Bell Labs and/or Alcatel-Lucent will drop it, it will experience insufficient support from the user base at large, and it will suffer bit-rot until it won't boot

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

"major piece among many" can be more precisely stated as "many pieces among many in order for the platform to achieve a critical mass of users". On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Steve Simon wrote: > But this is just one major piece among many. > > Perhaps for you but not for me, the only thing

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

Linux, android, Windows, and iOS all reached a critical mass in terms of programmer and end-user apps in order to survive. Plan-9 did not. A quality web browser on Plan-9 is critical to its usefullness by many. But this is just one major piece among many. On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Steve

[9fans] Acme: tab size

Greetings, I noticed tab size on sam is 8 characters. This is somewhat standard. Acme uses 4 (which is perhaps more reasonable in many circumstances). How can one control the tab size on acme? Thanks. Blake McBride

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

013 at 11:05:53AM -0600, Blake McBride wrote: > > In spite of some really great ideas, I think we'd all agree that Plan-9 > has > > no real future. On the other hand, I believe that some of the best ideas > > Plan-9 brings us can and should be a part of the future.

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

Couldn't agree more. On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Keith wrote: > Who here remembers/knows of the vision for the apple newton? The iPad > realized it when the technology was able and the time was right. Who is to > say the same couldn't be said for 9?

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

list and > watched this exact same exchange a dozen times. > > > 2013/12/15 Blake McBride > >> I, respectfully, disagree. The end purpose of any OS, platform, or >> program is to perform some sort of function. That end function is called >> an app. An app can be ta

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

al action > 2) otherwise, search text > > The plumber (when running) is there to find out, if there is a special > action to perform, and then do it. Read the paper "Plumbing and other > utilities" to get more details. > > ~Fritz > > Am 15.12.2013 17:38, schrieb B

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

That is much more helpful than trying to convince LKML folks that > they need userlevel namespaces. People already tried this. > > > 2013/12/15 Blake McBride > >> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 5:55 AM, trebol wrote: >> >>> . The lack of a >>> web browser ca

Re: [9fans] Can't start multiple copies of acme

As I am sure you would agree, a lot of real, interesting, important, and valuable work gets done on POSIX systems. I'm sure we'd all agree that Plan-9 adds important ideas to those already present in POSIX. While some of the implementation specifics of Plan-9 may be "hard to bold" onto a POSIX sy

[9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

step in the right direction. Plan-9 proved those ideas in an ideal environment. Just like what Smalltalk did to the world - creating C++, Java, the mouse, etc., Plan-9 can bring its ideas to the mainstream through additions and improvements to existing technology like Linux. Just some thoughts. Blake McBride

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

coded > backup behavior. > > Am 15.12.2013 17:19, schrieb Blake McBride: > > Blake-Mac-17:tmp blake$ 9p read plumb/rules > > 9p: mount: dial unix!/tmp/ns.blake._tmp_launch-nvfpC3_org.x:0/plumb: > > connect /tmp/ns.blake._tmp_launch-nvfpC3_org.x:0/plumb: No such file >

Re: [9fans] Can't start multiple copies of acme

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 10:00 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Sun Dec 15 10:23:13 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote: > > > I checked. The following shell script does the trick: > > > > > > # > > mkdir /tmp/acme-$$ > > NAMESPACE=/tmp/acme-$$ acme "$@" > > this is swimming up stream. acme's model

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

> > If you don't have that file yet: > 9p read plumb/rules >$HOME/lib/plumbing > > ~Fritz > > Am 15.12.2013 16:25, schrieb Blake McBride: > > Discovering button-3-drag, is there a reason button-3-drag could not be > > made to load a file or directory wi

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

Discovering button-3-drag, is there a reason button-3-drag could not be made to load a file or directory with spaces in it? In other words, would this conflict with some other intended operation? Thanks. Blake On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Blake McBride wrote: > When you button-2-cl

Re: [9fans] Can't start multiple copies of acme

I checked. The following shell script does the trick: # mkdir /tmp/acme-$$ NAMESPACE=/tmp/acme-$$ acme "$@" On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:31 AM, User & wrote: > you may change $NAMESPACE, cf. intro(4) > > % mkdir /tmp/foo; NAMESPACE=/tmp/foo acme > >

Re: [9fans] Spell checking with acme in p9p

On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Rubén Berenguel wrote: > > By the way, do you know about 1-2 chords, don't you? For some of these > tasks it may be useful. > > I have only a vague notion of chords at this point. I have two button mouse. I simulate the button-2 with alt-left-click. Because

[9fans] Spell checking with acme in p9p

sure what would be helpful yet. So, I guess the point of this is that there are a lot of steps necessary to correct a text's spelling. It would be easier just to do: aspell check file.txt But that would be side-stepping acme. I am just wondering how others handle this situation. Thank you! Blake McBride

Re: [9fans] Acme: single quotes and hyphens

fmt works fine. Thanks. BTW, besides 'Edit ,', is there an easier way to select an entire file (to send to a program)? Thanks again. On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Bence Fábián wrote: > No problem. Use |fmt to word wrap. nroff does much more. > > > 2013/12/14 Blake

Re: [9fans] Acme: single quotes and hyphens

Fábián wrote: > It's your keyboard layout. acme does no such thing to my knowledge. > Also it has nothing to do with the font. I assume you use p9p acme > on Mac OS X based on your last letter. So I can't help you more. > > > 2013/12/14 Blake McBride > >> Greet

[9fans] Acme: single quotes and hyphens

byte?) character. I understand unicode but I am American-English. My compiler and spell checker expect single byte, standard ASCII codes for dash and single quotes. I absolutely can't use acme like this. I am using the standard font. Is there a way for me to correct this behavior? Thanks.

[9fans] Can't start multiple copies of acme

er start up an additional copy of acme to edit that one file and then go back to my untouched development environment. (I know about dump/load. That is very useful, and I use it. But I don't want to go through all those extra steps in a quick edit situation.) Thanks. Blake McBride

Re: [9fans] Acme: spaces in file names

different character. When placed between the normal fs and >> Acme, this would make things work quite nicely. >> >> If I remember correctly, Acme-SAC (built on top of Inferno) does that by >> default. >> >> No idea where you can find such a fs for Mac thoug

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

Figured it out. export font=/mnt/font/Courier/12a/font sam & On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Blake McBride wrote: > Interesting. On the bottom it says fontsrv has no support for X11. Is > there a way to use the fonts that come with Linux? > > Another question. Is ther

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

t 1:10 PM, Blake McBride wrote: > > > How can I access the font from acme? > > See the EXAMPLES section of the fontsrv(1) manpage. >

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

Sorry again. Re-read first post. I forgot the "12a/font" part since it wasn't displayed in the ls. Now it works as I had hoped. This totally answers my question. Thank you all! Blake On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Blake McBride wrote: > I see. Sorry. I tried two di

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

irst reply in this thread > > > On Wednesday, December 11, 2013, Blake McBride wrote: > >> Okay. I build and installed fontsrv. I have it running. Now when I >> do: >> >> 9p ls font >> >> it lists all the fonts on my system. One of them is "C

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

ry It seems fontsrv is working or the 9p ls font wouldn't work. How can I access the font from acme? Thanks. Blake On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Blake McBride wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM,

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Blake McBride wrote: > > I'm sure I can get it to compile but I don't see the point. > > The point is that fontsrv allows p9p programs (including acme) to use > whatever true-t

Re: [9fans] Acme: fonts

; > https://vimeo.com/64487176 > > The slight pixelation comes from the video compression. The font is > Monaco, on my old Macbook > > How are you exactly changing fonts, though? > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Blake McBride wrote: > >> I checked. fontsrv didn&#x

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