Re: [9fans] monotonic time and randomness on Plan 9

2025-03-15 Thread Ron Minnich
So, Russ, just in case nobody else said it to you, thanks so much for chasing this down. I think the solution you came up with is quite nice -- need more precision? read more bits! -- and, as a Go user on Plan 9, I'm glad to see Go continuing to work. Go on Plan 9 is a first-class citizen in u-ro

Re: [9fans] Chemnitz Linux Days 2025

2025-03-15 Thread Clout Tolstoy
I can offer up pics of my cat. I have soo many. From a kitten to about 5. I wouldn't be able to attend but if that's all you need for a table, I'm sure she would be happy help. On Sat, Mar 15, 2025, 8:15 AM Daniel Maslowski via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > I'll be there for sure as well, we

Re: [9fans] 9k amd64 kernel and floating point

2025-03-15 Thread Charles Forsyth
it's funny how old the problem of process trap handling is in computing. On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 at 21:33, Charles Forsyth wrote: > (I have to admit I'm still wondering what on Earth people are doing with >> floating point in note handlers.) > > > i only ever used them to resume a process/coroutine

Re: [9fans] 9k amd64 kernel and floating point

2025-03-15 Thread Charles Forsyth
> > (I have to admit I'm still wondering what on Earth people are doing with > floating point in note handlers.) i only ever used them to resume a process/coroutine/whatever. to be fair, it's trickier since "fp" came to include integer vector instructions and block moves On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 at 1

Re: [9fans] git under Plan9/9legacy

2025-03-15 Thread tlaronde
On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 08:16:33PM -0400, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: > Quoth tlaro...@kergis.com: > > I'm perhaps doing something incorrect. > > > > git(1) is available on 9legacy too. > > > > But, after launching webcookies and then webfs, when trying to clone a > > git repository, I have an err

Re: [9fans] 9k amd64 kernel and floating point

2025-03-15 Thread Alyssa M via 9fans
Well, I tried this on my partly-implemented Plan 9 emulator. I sandwiched Ureg+fpreg between argv and the TOS structure. So note handlers get a fixed Ureg address that happens to have the fpregs after it. noted(2) is altered to use the fixed address for Ureg. Plan 9 binaries don't have to change

Re: [9fans] monotonic time and randomness on Plan 9

2025-03-15 Thread ron minnich
I think you can preserve the plan 9 model, get an efficient solution, and do so without adding system calls. We did it on Blue Gene. On Blue Gene, we had issues with using /dev/bintime because even doing a read(fd, pointer, size) had a lot of jitter, due to operations such as okaddr. Overhead was

Re: [9fans] NIX this evening

2025-03-15 Thread Lucio De Re
On 2025/03/08 18:43, Jacob Moody wrote: Or maybe you start from old nix and bring in the parts of 9front that you'd need in order to get things running on the system you want. That's a tedious, expensive, but in my opinion wise move. It's also optional, because clearly 9front is not going to

Re: [9fans] monotonic time and randomness on Plan 9

2025-03-15 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Following the magic fd's approach, would it make sense to have a #c/magicfds that can be read to get the list of the FDs or an ID written into it to get the an existing or new FD returned? On Mon, Mar 10, 2025, 8:17 AM Russ Cox wrote: > Hi all, > > Cinap said out in the other thread that nsec ha

Re: [9fans] Chemnitz Linux Days 2025

2025-03-15 Thread Daniel Maslowski via 9fans
I'll be there for sure as well, we can sit at the tables upstairs. If I don't forget it, I'll see that I print a little sign. You'll see then. :) On Sat, 15 Mar 2025, 14:06 sirjofri via 9fans, <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > Following up on that, it looks like I'll be there. I don't know the > locati

Re: [9fans] Chemnitz Linux Days 2025

2025-03-15 Thread sirjofri via 9fans
Following up on that, it looks like I'll be there. I don't know the location yet, but it seems pretty open so it should be quite possible to find each other if there are obvious signs. sirjofri -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups

Re: [9fans] monotonic time and randomness on Plan 9

2025-03-15 Thread Alyssa M via 9fans
On Tuesday, March 11, 2025, at 5:09 PM, Russ Cox wrote: > Personally, I'm not too worried about the cost of fetching the time. A system > call is fine. If a read is fast enough, then perhaps open, read, close would also be fast enough. Or could be made so.