Re: [9fans] usb9pfs: network booting without the network

2025-02-10 Thread sirjofri
10.02.2025 23:46:48 Thaddeus Woskowiak : > This isn't the first time this idea has popped up.  > > There are plenty of microcontrollers with USB device support so why not run a > 9p server on the micro and let it serve it's hardware to a 9 machine > directly, alleviating the user from ever thinki

Re: [9fans] NIX OS: TODOs

2025-02-10 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
ron minnich writes: > if you want to see an interesting example of the kind of machine we had in > mind for NIX: > https://www.esperanto.ai/technology/ They are very coy about pricing. The PCI-e card looks interesting, but it you have to ask how much it costs ... --lyndon -

Re: [9fans] usb9pfs: network booting without the network

2025-02-10 Thread Thaddeus Woskowiak
This isn't the first time this idea has popped up. There are plenty of microcontrollers with USB device support so why not run a 9p server on the micro and let it serve it's hardware to a 9 machine directly, alleviating the user from ever thinking about a driver - the hardware is the driver. You c

Re: [9fans] usb9pfs: network booting without the network

2025-02-10 Thread sirjofri
10.02.2025 23:16:07 David Boddie : > Doing 9p over USB is interesting, though I would have considered using an > existing device class instead of doing something 9p-specific. Kinda related, when I was working on the 9front pinephone port, which has a serial connector on its phone jack, I thought

[9fans] usb9pfs: network booting without the network

2025-02-10 Thread David Boddie
In Plan 9 adjacent territory, this talk came to my attention recently but the video recording didn't appear until today, I think: https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/event/fosdem-2025-6103-usb9pfs-network-booting-without-the-network/ Doing 9p over USB is interesting, though I would have considered u

Re: [9fans] NIX: doc updated

2025-02-10 Thread Clout Tolstoy
Just grazed the intro section and it helped me wrap my head around all this extra noise as to why it's useful. 1/30th of a hrz isn't much, but times that by 8k+ cores and the math speaks for itself. Great job! On Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 9:41 AM wrote: > FWIW, I have updated: > > https://notes.kerg

[9fans] NIX: doc updated

2025-02-10 Thread tlaronde
FWIW, I have updated: https://notes.kergis.com/nix-os.html Adding mainly: - references to current hardware with, now, tens, hundreds or even a thousand cores; - a rapid tour of the NIX modifications (26 files: 21 modifications, 5 additions) vs 9front (there is a sorted table; I m

[9fans] NIX is in heater mode

2025-02-10 Thread ron minnich
heater mode was a coin termed by sandia around 2000. They had 10,000 CPUs, 2 per board, and they had one cpu spin on network activity while the other computed. Spinning made it warm: heater mode. So I noticed last night that my T420, running one core as an AC, was getting warm. This is not supp

[9fans] Re: Plan9 [v]seprint(2) API design bug

2025-02-10 Thread Alejandro Colomar via 9fans
[Dropped onf@ per their request; updated Ken's address] Hi Jacob, On Sun, Feb 09, 2025 at 06:21:42PM -0600, Jacob Moody wrote: > >> In general 9front specific comments should go to the 9front list > >> 9fr...@9front.org > >> more general questions regarding any sort of plan 9 may be best sent to