Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

2024-05-09 Thread vic . thacker
Hi Hiro et al, I view Plan 9 4th Edition as a version that remains largely unchanged, serving as a snapshot in time, while 9legacy represents an active, distinct distribution. Conversely, 9front is a fork that has evolved significantly from Plan 9 4th Edition, making considerable advancements i

Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

2024-05-09 Thread hiro
no clue which conflict you're seeing, vic. there's been some trolling back and forth since forever, there's been complaints and contributions, and more complaints about the contributions and the lack of contributions. as it should be. we can have one united community if you like but then i hope we

Re: [9fans] Re: Raspberry pi with a largish screen?

2024-05-09 Thread a
Thank you, this exact set of lines ends up being exactly right for driving my  LG 27UK850-W at 1/4 resolution (native resolution would need some work put into the window system and fonts to be more comfortable). I don't believe I'd tried the max_framebuffer_* or hdmi_pixel_freq_limit settings bef

Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

2024-05-09 Thread kvik
> Installing fossil on 9front is not really difficult. Correct. You only need to grab the source of it from your favorite vendor, place it into right places and build it like any other system program. Here's a script I wrote some years ago to do exactly that: https://hg.sr.ht/~kvik/fossil-up/r

Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

2024-05-09 Thread ori
keep in mind that it can literally be brute forced in an afternoon by a teenager; even a gpu isn't needed to do this in a reasonable amount of time. Quoth Lucas Francesco : > https://seh.dev/p9sk1/ > > On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 08:01, Lucio De Re wrote: > > > > That seems simple enough, but "enable

Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

2024-05-09 Thread Lucas Francesco
https://seh.dev/p9sk1/ On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 08:01, Lucio De Re wrote: > > That seems simple enough, but "enable p9sk1 for the hostowner on 9front" > isn't something I'm familiar with. Is it an additional attribute in the > network database that I am not aware of? > > I will check the manual pa

Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

2024-05-09 Thread wb . kloke
Installing fossil on 9front is not really difficult. Fossil is just a userland server which probably can even be copied as a binary, as long as the cpu is the same. Here are the hostowner factotum/ctl readout from the auth server: key proto=p9sk1 user=bootes dom=fritz.box  !password? key proto=

Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

2024-05-09 Thread Lucio De Re
That seems simple enough, but "enable p9sk1 for the hostowner on 9front" isn't something I'm familiar with. Is it an additional attribute in the network database that I am not aware of? I will check the manual pages, although I'm not sure what to look for. I did note when creating a user or simila

Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

2024-05-09 Thread Lucio De Re
Thank you, Vic, for your efforts. My perceptions about the conflicts that seem to be stirred by any posts that compares 9front with the original, poorly defined, shall we say, "heritage" Plan 9 release are well reflected in your original, detailed posting. I was planning to address the issue, but y

Re: [9fans] Re: Raspberry pi with a largish screen?

2024-05-09 Thread Garry Taylor
I'm using a Lenovo C32Q-20 with that config.txt and it works perfectly. On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 5:55 AM wrote: > Thanks, that’s promising. What’s your monitor? > *9fans * / 9fans / see discussions > + participants >

Re: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front

2024-05-09 Thread wb . kloke
I am using fossil on plan9port (which should be similar to 9legacy) from 9front. The only thing which I needed was to enable p9sk1 for the hostowner on 9front  (the auth server) and a factotum entry for this in the file server, IIRC. -- 9fans: 9fans Permal