Re: [9fans] Compiling ken-cc on Linux

2015-11-28 Thread lucio
> One interesting thing is that for the past twenty years new > architectures have been designed to run C code well. Just check out > the papers a ISCA. Then why do we have to have such complicated > compilers to generate code for it. I'm pretty sure that you can lay that at C's door. Had Algol

Re: [9fans] Compiling ken-cc on Linux

2015-11-28 Thread lucio
> I think the issue is trying to fix a broken problem. Perfect > compatibility is pretty much impossible, but most attempts done to fix > it just shift the pain to somewhere else. What's the quote about > complexity not disappearing, just moving around? Basically, increased CPU complexity provid

Re: [9fans] Compiling ken-cc on Linux

2015-11-28 Thread Brantley Coile
Not dogmatic. Just 38 years and I still believe small is beautify. One interesting thing is that for the past twenty years new architectures have been designed to run C code well. Just check out the papers a ISCA. Then why do we have to have such complicated compilers to generate code for it.

Re: [9fans] Compiling ken-cc on Linux

2015-11-28 Thread Anthony Sorace
Brantley wrote: > One could argue that the Plan 9 C compiler lacks the modern optimizations > that the other compilers have. This would be true. But I would argue that > almost all of those optimizations are either not needed... Note the "almost all" in there. It's important not to get dogmatic

Re: [9fans] Compiling ken-cc on Linux

2015-11-28 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
On November 28, 2015 12:42:25 AM CST, da Tyga wrote: >I have been following this discussion about the C compiler and can no >longer stop myself from making a (snarky?) comment. > If you thing this is snarky, you've never visited the Final Fantasy XV board on GameFAQs! ;) >The K&R standard for