Re: [9fans] what is differece(s) between sources and atom kernel?

> My machine has only 4GB memory though. Can somebody please include this in the fortunes database? ++L

Re: [9fans] nil, and the danger of zero

> (void *)0 is certainly not the same as 0. > depending on architecture and compiler, of course. it's not the compiler, it's the type model, which if anything is tied to the hardware. you just won't have this sort of problem on a 32-bit machine. which is why this code has been just like that in

Re: [9fans] nil, and the danger of zero

On Fri, Apr 04, 2014 at 01:35:05AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > so, as it turns out, not all zeros do the same thing to the stack. > pt. > at least it's a simple reason why venti won't run. > (void *)0 is certainly not the same as 0. depending on architecture and compiler, of course.

Re: [9fans] Python/Mercurial error

> On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Ramakrishnan Muthukrishnan > wrote: > I tried cloning the go repo multiple times with the new hg and I get > the error *everytime*. :( What file system are you using? Have you tried 'hg clone -U'? There are a few cases with hg where the repository your trying to

[9fans] nil, and the danger of zero

so, as it turns out, not all zeros do the same thing to the stack. pt. at least it's a simple reason why venti won't run. ; diffy -c ../boot/local.c /n/dump/2014/0403/sys/src/nix/boot/local.c:212,218 - ../boot/local.c:212,218 f[2] = "tcp!127.1!8000";

Re: [9fans] what is differece(s) between sources and atom kernel?

> but there has to be a way to clean out the closets. :-) I completely agree with it! This may not be serious to someone, however: In Plan 9, there is no author's signature in the sources. This may because Plan9 was a product of Bell Lab once. So the programmers were the employees of the compan

Re: [9fans] what is differece(s) between sources and atom kernel?

> However, I wonder whether I need so much memory > in my Plan9.☺ My machine has only 4GB memory though. if you don't have that much memory, i can't think of a downside to pae over against regular 386. also, since pae is only 18 years old, we can assert that you probablly don't have a #9 video c

Re: [9fans] what is differece(s) between sources and atom kernel?

Thanks eric. I cannot judge which is better, though. Are there any problems using 'sources' pc kernel, anyone? Please put those notes on the top page of your atom site. Your pcpae kernel has never problems here so far. However, I wonder whether I need so much memory in my Plan9.☺ My machine has

Re: [9fans] what is differece(s) between sources and atom kernel?

Quoting erik quanstrom : pae isn't newfangled. it was supported, iirc, by the ppro. And every subsequent x86 chip except Banias, for the exclusion of which I will never forgive Intel. khm

Re: [9fans] what is differece(s) between sources and atom kernel?

On Thu Apr 3 22:06:07 EDT 2014, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: > I've been considered why pc kernel dosen't work for go compiling, > however pcpae kernel does. The 'sources' pc kernel works fine > (from David's talk here). > > In the 'sources' pc kernel, there is a definition of fpssesave etc

Re: [9fans] abaco in 9atom?

On Thu Apr 3 22:06:42 EDT 2014, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: > > perhaps you are mixing sources, or haven't downloaded all the > > fonts. atom uses /lib/font/bit/htmlfont which maps size*face > > You are right. > I have no /lib/font/bit/htmlfont directory, sorry. no problems. - erik

[9fans] what is differece(s) between sources and atom kernel?

I've been considered why pc kernel dosen't work for go compiling, however pcpae kernel does. The 'sources' pc kernel works fine (from David's talk here). In the 'sources' pc kernel, there is a definition of fpssesave etc in its l.s. On the other hand, no definition in atom's pc kernel. However,

Re: [9fans] abaco in 9atom?

> perhaps you are mixing sources, or haven't downloaded all the > fonts. atom uses /lib/font/bit/htmlfont which maps size*face You are right. I have no /lib/font/bit/htmlfont directory, sorry. Kenji

Re: [9fans] abaco in 9atom?

On Thu Apr 3 21:17:14 EDT 2014, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: > font problems. > htmlfont? etc. > > The abaco codes on sources site deals it in the codes. > I feel it's better to setup abaco initially. > Don't mind I'm now using 'sources' site's abaco. perhaps you are mixing sources, or haven

Re: [9fans] abaco in 9atom?

font problems. htmlfont? etc. The abaco codes on sources site deals it in the codes. I feel it's better to setup abaco initially. Don't mind I'm now using 'sources' site's abaco. Kenji

Re: [9fans] Python/Mercurial error

On Thu Apr 3 21:11:07 EDT 2014, vu3...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 11:53 PM, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> i hope this isn't begging the obvious, but with huge > >> masses of code, i find it helpful to hunt down the initial > >> error message and start adding debu

Re: [9fans] Python/Mercurial error

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 11:53 PM, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: >> i hope this isn't begging the obvious, but with huge >> masses of code, i find it helpful to hunt down the initial >> error message and start adding debugging code. > > I think it's more a matter of spare time and repr

Re: [9fans] Network Error

Ok. I'll get you that output this afternoon. Thanks again! On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 8:07 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > It might be the adapter type - I was sure I had selected the PRO/1000 MT > > Server, but looking at the screenshot, its the PRO/1000 T Server. I'll > look > > into it when I get

Re: [9fans] Network Error

> It might be the adapter type - I was sure I had selected the PRO/1000 MT > Server, but looking at the screenshot, its the PRO/1000 T Server. I'll look > into it when I get home from uni this afternoon, might just reinstall, I > haven't done anything with the image yet. > > Erik, if I run into an

Re: [9fans] Network Error

Hi Pete, It might be the adapter type - I was sure I had selected the PRO/1000 MT Server, but looking at the screenshot, its the PRO/1000 T Server. I'll look into it when I get home from uni this afternoon, might just reinstall, I haven't done anything with the image yet. Erik, if I run into any

Re: [9fans] Network Error

Have you tried the other adapters in VirtualBox? All my set-ups are using the Intel PRO/1000 MT Server (82545EM). Pete From: Shane Morris Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎3‎ ‎April‎ ‎2014 ‎20‎:‎34 To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Hello 9fans, I have re-installed 9atom on my Crunchbang L

Re: [9fans] Network Error

> Ack, I've shut the computer down, so I can head to uni - on my Macbook now. > Can I get back to you on that one please Erik? sure. the output of "cat /dev/kmesg" would be useful as well. - erik

Re: [9fans] Network Error

Ack, I've shut the computer down, so I can head to uni - on my Macbook now. Can I get back to you on that one please Erik? Many thanks! On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 6:38 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: > > I have re-installed 9atom on my Crunchbang Linux system under > VirtualBox. I > > am now using a USB

Re: [9fans] Network Error

> I have re-installed 9atom on my Crunchbang Linux system under VirtualBox. I > am now using a USB based wifi adapter which works under the Crunchbang side > of things. However, under Plan 9, there is no ethernet file, as shown in > the attached screenshot. > > My settings in VirtualBox are attach

Re: [9fans] Python/Mercurial error

> I tried cloning the go repo multiple times with the new hg and I get > the error *everytime*. :( I'm having troubles to reproduce this problem recently. It seems to depends on your network connection. I suppose there is an issue somewhere in the networking code. If that's a problem for you, you

Re: [9fans] Partitioning the disk

> > yup. i'll bet you compiled on the hard drive, and that's where the > > executables are. try booting without the pen drive. > No sadly it isn't true. But my question is: do I need the Internet > connection in order to mount atom image or can I install plan9 on my USB > disk without it? i think

Re: [9fans] Partitioning the disk

> fshalt(8). absolutely not needed in this case. - erik

Re: [9fans] Partitioning the disk

On Thu, Apr 03, 2014 at 02:13:10PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > > > there is not enough room on the usb key to install all. > > > > The other problem is that after compiling usb and all it > > > > dependences when I've rebooted the plan 9 atom all programs > > > > disappeared and I've needed

Re: [9fans] Python/Mercurial error

> i hope this isn't begging the obvious, but with huge > masses of code, i find it helpful to hunt down the initial > error message and start adding debugging code. I think it's more a matter of spare time and reproducibility ☺. -- David du Colombier

Re: [9fans] Partitioning the disk

On 04/03/2014 09:08 PM, Szymon Olewniczak wrote: > On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 06:02:23PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: >> On Wed Apr 2 17:49:51 EDT 2014, szymon.olewnic...@rid.pl wrote: if you do a pull as glenda, or alternately mount /srv/boot /n/root && 9fs atom &&

Re: [9fans] Partitioning the disk

> > > > there is not enough room on the usb key to install all. > > > The other problem is that after compiling usb and all it > > > dependences when I've rebooted the plan 9 atom all programs > > > disappeared and I've needed to compile them again. Is there any > > > method to make the changes to

Re: [9fans] Partitioning the disk

On Wed, Apr 02, 2014 at 06:02:23PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Wed Apr 2 17:49:51 EDT 2014, szymon.olewnic...@rid.pl wrote: > > > if you do a pull as glenda, or alternately > > > > > > mount /srv/boot /n/root && > > > 9fs atom && > > > disk/mkfs -vkU -s /n/atom/plan9^

Re: [9fans] Python/Mercurial error

On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 11:27 PM, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: >> ; hg clone http://code.google.com/p/go >> >> ... >> adding file changes >> transaction abort! >> failed to truncate 00manifest.i >> rollback failed - please run hg recover >> abort: invalid arguments >> ; cd go >>

Re: [9fans] Python/Mercurial error

On Thu Apr 3 13:59:36 EDT 2014, 0in...@gmail.com wrote: > > ; hg clone http://code.google.com/p/go > > > > ... > > adding file changes > > transaction abort! > > failed to truncate 00manifest.i > > rollback failed - please run hg recover > > abort: invalid arguments > > ; cd go > > ; hg recov

Re: [9fans] Python/Mercurial error

> ; hg clone http://code.google.com/p/go > > ... > adding file changes > transaction abort! > failed to truncate 00manifest.i > rollback failed - please run hg recover > abort: invalid arguments > ; cd go > ; hg recover > no interrupted transaction available > ; It looks similar to an issue I

Re: [9fans] Python/Mercurial error

> adding file changes > transaction abort! > failed to truncate 00manifest.i > rollback failed - please run hg recover > abort: invalid arguments looks like that error path was never tested. :-) - erik

Re: [9fans] Python/Mercurial error

Sorry, late into it again. David, I picked the new hg from 9legacy website (2.9.1) and used it to pull Go source. But I consistently get this error on both Bell Labs plan9 and 9atom on virtualbox. ; hg clone http://code.google.com/p/go ... adding file changes transaction abort! failed to tr

Re: [9fans] Introduction and Grandiose Plans

> My first goal is to produce a UEFI boot loader for Plan9. Once that is > accomplished, I intend to start incorporating parts of Plan9 (and/or > Inferno) into the core UEFI firmware (www.tianocore.org > ). I would like to have Channels, the Plan9 > device abstraction a

[9fans] Introduction and Grandiose Plans

Hello, I have followed Bun-bun (www.sluggy.com ) for years and started getting seriously interested in Glenda last year. After a rocky start, the relationship is starting to smooth out and I now have multiple machines running Inferno (because it was easier) and recently

Re: [9fans] abaco in 9atom?

On Thu Apr 3 04:48:28 EDT 2014, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: > Isn't it corrupted? > I had to cpoy the aboco sources from sources site to > run abaco on my pcpae machine. it runs for me. can you give more detail on the error you're seeing? what are the symptoms, error messages, etc? - erik

[9fans] abaco in 9atom?

Isn't it corrupted? I had to cpoy the aboco sources from sources site to run abaco on my pcpae machine. Kenji