[9fans] How to admin and repair venti/fossil?

2013-03-11 Thread mycroftiv
Problem: How to admin and repair Venti+Fossil Solution: Manage them from an independent namespace In response to feedback that I should explain how Advanced Namespace Tools (ANTS) can solve pratical problems, I will explain in terms of Venti and Fossil administration and maintenance. The full Pl

Re: [9fans] A note about new software for Plan 9

2013-03-11 Thread Bakul Shah
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 04:20:16 - mycrof...@sphericalharmony.com wrote: > > Do you think it would be helpful or welcome to re-post some of this > material here on 9fans? Your explanations are ok. My guess is people don't have time or sufficient motivation to dig deeper and read your papers. Po

Re: [9fans] A note about new software for Plan 9

2013-03-11 Thread mycroftiv
Bakul Shah wrote: > Some motivating examples may help. Perhaps you can show > 1. Initial state of the world (show with the help of a few ls) > 2. A sequence of commands to change it > 3. What the world looks like finally I have actually documented these things in this manner in the ANTS paper tha

Re: [9fans] A note about new software for Plan 9

2013-03-11 Thread Bakul Shah
Just a suggestion: Some motivating examples may help. Perhaps you can show 1. Initial state of the world (show with the help of a few ls) 2. A sequence of commands to change it 3. What the world looks like finally And a brief description why this would be desirable. And how it compares with jus

Re: [9fans] A note about new software for Plan 9

2013-03-11 Thread mycroftiv
erik quanstrom wrote: > this part is confusing. plan 9 has always maintained 1 independent > namespace per process group. so i'm surethat there's more to it > than this. could you go into detail on this? You are right I was using terminology loosely here. What I mean by "namespace" in this

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Settings that work for me: It would be tres cool if this information was getting mirrored in the Wiki.

Re: [9fans] A note about new software for Plan 9

2013-03-11 Thread erik quanstrom
> I have some new software for Plan 9. It is based on manipulating > namespaces. The 9pcram kernel has a new bootup which lets it control > multiple independent namespaces. It is the foundation for a this part is confusing. plan 9 has always maintained 1 independent namespace per process group

[9fans] A note about new software for Plan 9

2013-03-11 Thread mycroftiv
Hi 9fans. I think I wrote my Advanced Namespace Tools message in an unclear way. Let me try again. I have some new software for Plan 9. It is based on manipulating namespaces. The 9pcram kernel has a new bootup which lets it control multiple independent namespaces. It is the foundation for a

Re: [9fans] atol() bug

2013-03-11 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:55:53 EDT erik quanstrom wrote: > On Mon Mar 11 18:56:04 EDT 2013, ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:44:05 PDT Steven Stallion > > wrote: > > > from atof(2): > > > > > > BUGS > > > Atoi, atol, and atoll accept octal and hexadecimal numbe

Re: [9fans] atol() bug

2013-03-11 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 07:55:53PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Mon Mar 11 18:56:04 EDT 2013, ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:44:05 PDT Steven Stallion > > wrote: > > > from atof(2): > > > > > > BUGS > > > Atoi, atol, and atoll accept octal and hexadecim

Re: [9fans] atol() bug

2013-03-11 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Mar 11 18:56:04 EDT 2013, ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: > On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:44:05 PDT Steven Stallion wrote: > > from atof(2): > > > > BUGS > > Atoi, atol, and atoll accept octal and hexadecimal numbers > > in the style of C, contrary to the ANSI specification. >

Re: [9fans] atol() bug

2013-03-11 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 15:44:05 PDT Steven Stallion wrote: > from atof(2): > > BUGS > Atoi, atol, and atoll accept octal and hexadecimal numbers > in the style of C, contrary to the ANSI specification. This BUG is obviously very easy to fix but it hasn't been Any good r

Re: [9fans] atol() bug

2013-03-11 Thread Steven Stallion
from atof(2): BUGS Atoi, atol, and atoll accept octal and hexadecimal numbers in the style of C, contrary to the ANSI specification. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: > The atol() manpage says: > > Atoi and atol recognize an optional string o

[9fans] atol() bug

2013-03-11 Thread Bakul Shah
The atol() manpage says: Atoi and atol recognize an optional string of tabs and spaces, then an optional sign, then a string of decimal dig- its. And yet atol(x) acts exactly like strol(x, nil, 0). This makes it unnecessarily incompatible with the unix version. Ditt

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:47:45 EDT Matthew Veety wrote: > > > On Mar 11, 2013, at 16:36, Bakul Shah wrote: > > > Note: if your host uses wifi but no ethernet, bridged > > adapter won't work. > > That's card dependent. It needs to support promisc mode AFAIK. Not all cards > support it. Just di

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread Matthew Veety
On Mar 11, 2013, at 16:36, Bakul Shah wrote: > Note: if your host uses wifi but no ethernet, bridged > adapter won't work. That's card dependent. It needs to support promisc mode AFAIK. Not all cards support it.

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:50:07 BST David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I've been trying for about two days to get the stock Plan9 from Bell > > > Labs to install with Networking under Virtual Box > > > > Bell Labs Plan 9 and networking works well in virtualbox 3.1.8 using > > Am79C973

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread balaji
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:50 PM, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > I've been trying for about two days to get the stock Plan9 from Bell >> > Labs to install with Networking under Virtual Box >> >> Bell Labs Plan 9 and networking works well in virtualbox 3.1.8 using >> Am79C973 virt

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread David du Colombier
> > I've been trying for about two days to get the stock Plan9 from Bell > > Labs to install with Networking under Virtual Box > > Bell Labs Plan 9 and networking works well in virtualbox 3.1.8 using > Am79C973 virtual ethernet adapter in bridged mode, chipset PIIX3 > selected and "Enable IO APIC"

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread Richard Miller
> I've been trying for about two days to get the stock Plan9 from Bell > Labs to install with Networking under Virtual Box Bell Labs Plan 9 and networking works well in virtualbox 3.1.8 using Am79C973 virtual ethernet adapter in bridged mode, chipset PIIX3 selected and "Enable IO APIC" turned off.

[9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread Kyle Laracey
Hello I've had difficulty installing the vanilla Plan9 from Bell Labs in VirtualBox / QEMU, and now I am going to try one of the forks, 9atom or 9Front, which both seem to have more hardware support / software. However, the descriptions on their homepages are brief; could someone please point out

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread erik quanstrom
> Neither have a very extensive description on their homepages. hmm. what kind of description are you expecting? - erik

[9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread Kyle Laracey
Hello I've been trying for about two days to get the stock Plan9 from Bell Labs to install with Networking under Virtual Box / QEMU, and by now I have just given up. Maybe I will try again later. I still want to use Plan9 though, and so I was wondering what the difference between 9atom and 9Front

Re: [9fans] 9vx getting root from plan9 file server

2013-03-11 Thread yy
On 11 March 2013 14:29, Steve Simon wrote: > Anyone succeeded in getting 9vx to take its root from a remote > plan9 file server? There is a mail from RSC from 2009 but he > indicates it is untested, I was just wondering if anyone got it > to work and have a command like they could share? > This

Re: [9fans] How to build plan9 image for raspberry pi with different size ?

2013-03-11 Thread Richard Miller
There isn't a simple way to grow an existing fossil partition. You could use the extra space on the SD card for a second fossil partition, or a venti store. To rebuild the main fossil on the pi, you would need to boot from a root filesystem coming from somewhere else - a usb flash drive for examp

Re: [9fans] 9vx getting root from plan9 file server

2013-03-11 Thread Matthew Veety
On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:29, "Steve Simon" wrote: > Anyone succeeded in getting 9vx to take its root from a remote > plan9 file server? There is a mail from RSC from 2009 but he > indicates it is untested, I was just wondering if anyone got it > to work and have a command like they could share? > >

[9fans] 9vx getting root from plan9 file server

2013-03-11 Thread Steve Simon
Anyone succeeded in getting 9vx to take its root from a remote plan9 file server? There is a mail from RSC from 2009 but he indicates it is untested, I was just wondering if anyone got it to work and have a command like they could share? -Steve

[9fans] Giant ANTS! Advanced Namespace Tools for Plan 9 from Bell Labs

2013-03-11 Thread mycroftiv
Tanna: The people of Earth are proving resistant to Plan 9. Eros: Our namespace technology is superior. Release the Giant ANTS! Hello 9fans. Today I am making the official announcement of ANTS - Advanced Namespace Tools for Plan 9 from Bell Labs. This is a collection of software all focused on

Re: [9fans] How to build plan9 image for raspberry pi with

2013-03-11 Thread Matthew Veety
On Mar 11, 2013, at 9:49, Xinwei Hu wrote: > Hi, > > A newbie question here. > > I want to fully utilize my 8G SD, while the image provided now is about 2G > only. > Is there a way to customize the size of the image ? Or, even further, is > there a way to extend existing filesystem online

[9fans] How to build plan9 image for raspberry pi with

2013-03-11 Thread Xinwei Hu
Hi, A newbie question here. I want to fully utilize my 8G SD, while the image provided now is about 2G only. Is there a way to customize the size of the image ? Or, even further, is there a way to extend existing filesystem online ? Thanks.