Re: [9fans] APE select() and awkward Python subprocess PIPEfitting

2013-02-26 Thread Federico G. Benavento
you know that there's that I ported X11 years ago which does the 32bit if your displays supports it, how else did people manage to run opera, firefox and others on linuxemu? On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Jeff Sickel wrote: > 1) "You really don’t want to use this. It’s old and slow and only >

Re: [9fans] APE select() and awkward Python subprocess PIPEfitting

2013-02-26 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 26 February 2013 17:01, Jeff Sickel wrote: > Of course, if we're going the Linux route, we'll need to up FD_SETSIZE to > at > least 1024, we're currently at 96. Seems that 1024 has become the default > these days. > I meant only for trying to work out what seems to satisfy X11 as regards err

Re: [9fans] APE select() and awkward Python subprocess PIPEfitting

2013-02-26 Thread Jeff Sickel
On Feb 26, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Anthony Sorace wrote: > I believe that's about the old X11 port. fgb's equis is much newer and nicer > (aside from, y'know, X11). That's the one forest against (for anyone who's > going to try). While we're at it, does anyone have an answer to why we have both

Re: [9fans] APE select() and awkward Python subprocess PIPEfitting

2013-02-26 Thread Jeff Sickel
On Feb 26, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > On 26 February 2013 16:20, Charles Forsyth wrote: > If APE's select does the same, it will be fine, without breaking Python's > pipes. > > "it will be fine" -- I meant X11 will be fine, since it's relying on closing > a file descripto

Re: [9fans] APE select() and awkward Python subprocess PIPEfitting

2013-02-26 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Feb 26, 2013, at 10:29, Jeff Sickel wrote: > 1) "You really don’t want to use this. It’s old and slow and only >works well on 8-bit displays." I believe that's about the old X11 port. fgb's equis is much newer and nicer (aside from, y'know, X11). That's the one forest against (for anyone

Re: [9fans] APE select() and awkward Python subprocess PIPEfitting

2013-02-26 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 26 February 2013 16:20, Charles Forsyth wrote: > If APE's select does the same, it will be fine, without breaking Python's > pipes. "it will be fine" -- I meant X11 will be fine, since it's relying on closing a file descriptor in one part of the program to cause EBADF in the select in another

Re: [9fans] APE select() and awkward Python subprocess PIPEfitting

2013-02-26 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 26 February 2013 15:29, Jeff Sickel wrote: > But if the X11 port does expect EBADF on the EOF, then I'd expect > it to break. > It breaks anyway: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-bugs/2012-08/msg02390.html Note, however, that the EBADF in that example is on the output side (and outputs are

Re: [9fans] APE select() and awkward Python subprocess PIPEfitting

2013-02-26 Thread Jeff Sickel
On Feb 26, 2013, at 5:41 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: > In other words, I'd fix select, and then change whatever else needs to be > changed (if anything does) if X11 then stops working. If I'm interpreting this correctly, as well as the select() code, then by removing that block from the "ensur

Re: [9fans] APE select() and awkward Python subprocess PIPEfitting

2013-02-26 Thread Jeff Sickel
On Feb 26, 2013, at 5:25 AM, Yaroslav wrote: > Does you change break X11/equis if relinked? I'm not quite sure as I don't use X11 on Plan 9 for these reasons: 1) "You really don’t want to use this. It’s old and slow and only works well on 8-bit displays." 2) When look at my available hard

Re: [9fans] Ancient History: "Electronic Mail Without Aliases"

2013-02-26 Thread Anthony Sorace
Yes, this was all put up in response to Arnold's forwarding my inquiry. I wasn't on the mail where permission for posting was given, so wasn't sure how widely to publicize the delivery. Now that that's all cleared up: much thanks to Arnold for tracking this down (and Mike Lesk, of course). I ha

Re: [9fans] APE select() and awkward Python subprocess PIPEfitting

2013-02-26 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 26 February 2013 11:25, Yaroslav wrote: > 've come to the conclusion that the code that causes error is intentional I don't think that code is right. It's correct to return with a bit set in rfds for a file descriptor that's ready with only an end of file (zero read). EBADF should only be g

[9fans] MS office XML to txt/troff

2013-02-26 Thread Steve Simon
New toys in my contrib to convert modern microsoft office XML files to text or troff/tbl source. these live in a directory opc as the standard is known as Open Packaging Conventions and there may be more tools to come. docx2troff works pretty well, the formatting is imperfect but looks OK, embedd

Re: [9fans] APE select() and awkward Python subprocess PIPEfitting

2013-02-26 Thread Yaroslav
2013/2/26 Jeff Sickel > 've come to the conclusion that the code that causes error is intentional We're facing problems in ceratin python apps too[1]. We used to use X11/equis mainly for rdesktop until a native port[2] became available. Does you change break X11/equis if relinked? - Yaroslav

Re: [9fans] Ancient History: "Electronic Mail Without Aliases"

2013-02-26 Thread arnold
> http://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub///mirrors/minnie.tuhs.org/Documentation/Papers/Email_No_Aliases/ I'll take the credit for this. :-) I asked on the TUHS list, was pointed to Mike Lesk, asked him for the paper, and he graciously supplied it. A few people on that list (also on 9fans) supplied pointer

Re: [9fans] Logitech T400 mouse with Plan9 and

2013-02-26 Thread Mark van Atten
> > The HP DY651A is such a mouse and is still available, for example at > > Amazon. Is that an option for you? > > I doubt it's comfortable for intensive usage. Especially after trying > > Contour Mouse. Are you comfortable with it? Yes, especially because it's large and so are my hands. But

Re: [9fans] Ancient History: "Electronic Mail Without Aliases"

2013-02-26 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 26 February 2013 07:35, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > So I > googled the directory and presto chango. Took about 3 minutes. > The dates on the file and the file with the e-mail exchange with Lesk suggests the file only turned up there on 14 Feb this year, which probably explains why it wasn't quit

Re: [9fans] Ancient History: "Electronic Mail Without Aliases"

2013-02-26 Thread Richard Miller
"An average mail message to a remote site takes 6.8 seconds of 11/70 CPU time ..." Those were the days.