On Oct 18, 2012 2:34 PM, "Skip Tavakkolian"
wrote:
>
> Erudite Glenda in Winter?
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:17 AM, John Floren wrote:
> >> Precisely. The correlation between what makes something
> >> good and what makes something popular is small but negative.
> >> One of the primary reasons
http://planb.lsub.org/ls/octopus.html
is a user interface that includes graphics, exploits name space
representations, and doesn't just mimic the xerox desktop.
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Bakul Shah wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:35:12 EDT erik quanstrom
> wrote:
> > > You should explore /sys on Linux. They've embraced namespaces in a
> major way.
> >
> > what am i missing. linux' /sys is just a synthetic filesystem. where
> do you
> > see thi
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 03:37:57PM -0400, Corey Thomasson wrote:
>
> Everyday I'm slightly more convinced that you're a highly sophisticated
> Markov chain.
How do you feel about you're a highly sophisticated
Markov chain?
On Oct 18, 2012 11:44 AM, "Kurt H Maier" wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 07:20:47AM -0700, Albert Skye wrote:
> > erik quanstrom wrote:
> >
> > > > The question is rather: What killed the Plan 9 desktop?
> > >
> > > poor special effects?
> >
> > it's just resting!
> > but maybe it should die
>
On 2012-10-18 18:52 , erik quanstrom wrote:
>> A "well working browser" is an OS these days. A bit of a dilemma that. ;-)
> you overestimate how complicated an os needs to be.
>
> - erik
>
Browsers are on the dark side - they have cookies
> Precisely. The correlation between what makes something
> good and what makes something popular is small but negative.
> One of the primary reasons I stopped using Linux was that
> it was becoming too mainstream and just like all the
> commercial junk out there.
I too find Linux too mainstream:
> A "well working browser" is an OS these days. A bit of a dilemma that. ;-)
you overestimate how complicated an os needs to be.
- erik
A "well working browser" is an OS these days. A bit of a dilemma that. ;-)
On Oct 18, 2012 3:25 PM, "Pavel Klinkovsky"
wrote:
> Dne čtvrtek, 18. října 2012 14:23:03 UTC+2 Oleksandr Iakovliev napsal(a):
> >> 1) Lack of modern GUI and GUI development kit
> >> ...
> > But that's the
Thanks!!! I plan to try it out on sheeva and guru later today.
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote:
> As a side effect of the raspberry pi work, I've produced an SD card
> driver for the sheevaplug (and presumably other kirkwood platforms).
> It's in two sec
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 07:20:47AM -0700, Albert Skye wrote:
> erik quanstrom wrote:
>
> > > The question is rather: What killed the Plan 9 desktop?
> >
> > poor special effects?
>
> it's just resting!
> but maybe it should die
>
> yes
> no "modern GUI", &c.
> (and I'm grateful for that! :)
>
the solution is
to just stop worrying and love
the bitmap font because there
are more important things
in life.
such as not inserting spurious
new lines
in mailing list posts.
On Thu, 18 Oct 2012, Albert Skye wrote:
erik quanstrom wrote:
The question is rather: What killed the Plan 9 desktop
> Would anyone with a sheevaplug or similar, and a collection of SD
> cards, like to try it out before I submit a patch?
I just tried with various 2 GB to 16 GB Kingston SD and
microSD (with adapter) cards on my SheevaPlug and it works
like a charm.
Thanks for your very nice work.
--
David du C
Dne čtvrtek, 18. října 2012 14:23:03 UTC+2 Oleksandr Iakovliev napsal(a):
>> 1) Lack of modern GUI and GUI development kit
>> ...
> But that's the list of benefits, isn't? :)
I mostly agree except the browser.
I would appreciate a well working browser in the P9 too. ;)
Pavel
> http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2012/Aug-29.html
If developmental stability was all it took to attract third party developers
then why didn't FreeBSD "win the desktop" a decade ago? Or indeed Plan 9 (I
suppose this is reductio)?
erik quanstrom wrote:
> > The question is rather: What killed the Plan 9 desktop?
>
> poor special effects?
it's just resting!
but maybe it should die
yes
no "modern GUI", &c.
(and I'm grateful for that! :)
but Plan 9 (and other software)
can be much more useful by exposition
within a *typogr
> erik quanstrom wrote:
>
> > > The question is rather: What killed the Plan 9 desktop?
> >
> > poor special effects?
> >
> > - erik
>
> The Plan 9 desktop was never aimed at the consumer market, which is
[...]
that was supposed to be a switcheroo, not a comment on plan 9 graphics
or the import
>>The question is rather: What killed the Plan 9 desktop?
>>
>> 1) Lack of modern GUI and GUI development kit
>> 2) Lack of Object Oriented GUI configuration tools
>> 3) Lack of a decent web0browser
>> 4) Lack of a decent communication/messaging client
>>
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote:
> As a side effect of the raspberry pi work, I've produced an SD card
> driver for the sheevaplug (and presumably other kirkwood platforms).
> It's in two sections: the top layer does the card protocol and is
> identical be
On Oct 18, 2012, at 5:03 AM, Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
> On 10/18/2012 01:35 AM, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
>> Greetings comrades.
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 22:05:08 +0200 Aharon Robbins wrote:
>>> This says a lot, rather nicely:
>>>
>>> http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2012/Aug-29.html
>>>
that's what I thought. :)
On Oct 18, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Oleksandr Iakovliev wrote:
> On 2012-10-18 11:03 , Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
>> On 10/18/2012 01:35 AM, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
>>> Greetings comrades.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 22:05:08 +0200 Aharon Robbins
>>> wrote:
This sa
As a side effect of the raspberry pi work, I've produced an SD card
driver for the sheevaplug (and presumably other kirkwood platforms).
It's in two sections: the top layer does the card protocol and is
identical between rpi and kw (could go into /sys/src/9/port?), while
the lower layer does the ho
On 2012-10-18 11:03 , Balwinder S Dheeman wrote:
> On 10/18/2012 01:35 AM, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
>> Greetings comrades.
>>
>> On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 22:05:08 +0200 Aharon Robbins
>> wrote:
>>> This says a lot, rather nicely:
>>>
>>> http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2012/Aug-29.html
>>>
>>> Havi
On 10/18/2012 01:35 AM, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
Greetings comrades.
On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 22:05:08 +0200 Aharon Robbins wrote:
This says a lot, rather nicely:
http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2012/Aug-29.html
Having lived through the Unix wars of the 80s and 90s, it's the same
story al
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 10:05:08PM +0200, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
>
> The question is rather: What killed the Plan 9 desktop?
>
Having forgotten that a market for a sensible solution is a niche
market. Only stupidity and lack of reflexion can replace the "what do
I need" with "i don't know what
erik quanstrom wrote:
> > The question is rather: What killed the Plan 9 desktop?
>
> poor special effects?
>
> - erik
The Plan 9 desktop was never aimed at the consumer market, which is
what Miguel was bemoaning for Linux. Plan 9 was never even aimed the
broader Unix / software developer marke
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