Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.

2011-06-07 Thread Josh Marshall
Well, if you people keep throwing bleeding edge software and tech at me, I'm going to keep adding to my to-research list. Keep them coming! Is there a list of next gen/experimental OS's for me to look into? Again, my school is behind so far with everything CS and programming. On Tue, Jun 7, 201

Re: [9fans] line numbers in troff

2011-06-07 Thread hugo rivera
Thanks a lot. 2011/5/19 Charles Forsyth : > .nm 1 turns on line number mode > .nm 0 turns it off > .nn N turns it off for the next N lines > .nm 1 M   numbers every M lines following > > there are other options > > -- Mensaje reenviado -- > From: hugo rivera > To: Fans of the OS P

Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.

2011-06-07 Thread erik quanstrom
> I'm really starting to love this mailing list--people actually know more > than I do! Most of what I said was more musing than anything else, but > breaking the traditional system up into smaller cell like units which are > networked to make a coherent fascinates me. microsoft has a research op

Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.

2011-06-07 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
It's just a kernel (plus a couple of adapted/new libraries) You can run a std Plan 9 system on top of it. However, as it is now, it's only useful for experimenting. It's a fast moving target these days. On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Josh Marshall wrote: > Anyways, the nix repository looks way

Re: [9fans] Living with Plan 9

2011-06-07 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Stanley Lieber wrote: >> I note there is a Linux user binary emulation and X11  available. Is it >> sufficient >> to set up a Linux environment on Plan 9 including all the niceties offered by >> Linux modern distribution? Does this completely defeat the purpose of

Re: [9fans] Living with Plan 9

2011-06-07 Thread cinap_lenrek
the tls stuff was already solved like years ago with a kernel patch that adds gdt and ldt manipulation thru /dev/gdt and /dev/ldt. http://9hal.ath.cx/usr/cinap_lenrek/segdescpatch.tgz its probably out of date now and needs adaption. its already on the todo for 9front... :) -- cinap

Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.

2011-06-07 Thread Josh Marshall
I'm really starting to love this mailing list--people actually know more than I do! Most of what I said was more musing than anything else, but breaking the traditional system up into smaller cell like units which are networked to make a coherent fascinates me. Anyways, the nix repository looks w

Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.

2011-06-07 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Jun 7 15:19:00 EDT 2011, w...@authentrus.com wrote: > On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 10:13 -0700, paul.a.lalo...@gmail.com wrote: > > > you'll almost certainly be pessimizing your code. > > Proving again that any word can be verbed. your againing this subject facinates. the first rule of english

Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.

2011-06-07 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Tue, 2011-06-07 at 10:13 -0700, paul.a.lalo...@gmail.com wrote: > you'll almost certainly be pessimizing your code. Proving again that any word can be verbed.

Re: [9fans] Living with Plan 9

2011-06-07 Thread Steve Simon
Plan9 is my desktop at work and I drawterm in to a plan9 server at home. I use plan9 for everything except web browsing, for which I VNC onto a windows box. somtimes some things are a little difficult on plan9, but I find most things harder on other OSs. -Steve

Re: [9fans] Living with Plan 9

2011-06-07 Thread Stanley Lieber
> I note there is a Linux user binary emulation and X11  available. Is it > sufficient > to set up a Linux environment on Plan 9 including all the niceties offered by > Linux modern distribution? Does this completely defeat the purpose of using > Plan9 in the first place ? If it makes sense, I'd a

Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.

2011-06-07 Thread erik quanstrom
> power advantage. But for most code, which is branchy and loopy you'll yes, it's unfortunte. most code is loopy. we just can't figure out what they were thinking. - erik

Re: [9fans] Living with Plan 9

2011-06-07 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
Not for web browsing and not for office doc processing, but I use it as my main OS for most tasks, including papers, docs and slides (using troff for that).

[9fans] Living with Plan 9

2011-06-07 Thread rbnsw-plan9
Is there anybody out there using Plan 9 as their primary operating system for typical user tasks such as web browsing, word processing etc. I'm shopping for a new operating system for my trailing edge hardware, and my heart and my head cannot agree on how much effort I should devote into adopting

Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.

2011-06-07 Thread paul.a.lalo...@gmail.com
Putting on my GPU architect hat for a minute... It's generally *not* true that a GPU element is more power efficient than regular core. The GPU relies heavily on having many work elements to compute simultaneously that follow the same control paths. Divergence in that control flow typically le

Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.

2011-06-07 Thread erik quanstrom
> that due to multi-core systems slowly changing to many-core systems, a > networking model is very scalable and with so many things to break, the > fault tolerance will become a must. This could allow then for computer i'm not sure i follow along. since i've been paying attention, processors ha

Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.

2011-06-07 Thread Gabriel Díaz López de la llave
Hello AMD and IBM/Sony think a bit different with their Fusion and Cell processors+gpu integrated, no? slds. On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Josh Marshall < joshua.r.marshall.1...@gmail.com> wrote: > A system running more hardware will, for all practical purposes, use more > energy. What this

Re: [9fans] Hey, new to this. Trying to get plan9 to work in a VM.

2011-06-07 Thread Josh Marshall
A system running more hardware will, for all practical purposes, use more energy. What this would do is increase the efficiency of that power use. Say you're using a single threaded indexing program, and its indexing a very slow medium. Why use a CPU processor when you can idle them, and idle mos