Re: [9fans] ohci funny on sb850

2011-01-14 Thread lucio
> these are 6.6v 1800µF caps. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague I wasn't sure, but the issue has bugged me for a long time. Thanks for the pointer. ++L

Re: [9fans] ohci funny on sb850

2011-01-14 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Jan 14 23:29:27 EST 2011, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: > > oh, and yes. when pulling the old motherboard i noticed > > about 2/3 of the caps are dripping. > > I wonder how that happened? Every hardware problem I have diagnosed > and occasionally fixed in the last few years, from motherboar

Re: [9fans] ohci funny on sb850

2011-01-14 Thread Anthony Martin
lu...@proxima.alt.za once said: > I wonder how that happened? Every hardware problem I have diagnosed > and occasionally fixed in the last few years, from motherboards to CRT > monitors to external power supplies (mains voltage converters) has > boiled down to one or more 10μF electrolytics packin

Re: [9fans] ohci funny on sb850

2011-01-14 Thread lucio
> oh, and yes. when pulling the old motherboard i noticed > about 2/3 of the caps are dripping. I wonder how that happened? Every hardware problem I have diagnosed and occasionally fixed in the last few years, from motherboards to CRT monitors to external power supplies (mains voltage converters

[9fans] ohci funny on sb850

2011-01-14 Thread erik quanstrom
i just got a new motherboard/processor. (amd 4x3.4ghz with sb850) it just worked. boots in 10 seconds. same old crappy plan 9 video perfomance. :-) its been a long time since i didn't need to fight a motherboard. i did notice this usb niggle when booting. i haven't tried usb yet, so i don't

Re: [9fans] plan9 go output faults on 9vx but ok on cpu

2011-01-14 Thread Anthony Martin
Pavel Zholkover once said: > I have no idea what is causing it to die, I've tried adding a bunch of > INT $3 to see how far in the flow I can get, but all I get this: > > 9vx panic: unknown trap/intr: 0x203 > aborting, to dump core. > > for an INT $3 just before > CALL SI // fn() This hap

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread Charles Forsyth
>Did I not allude to that when I used the word "daemon"? not exactly. one important difference is that a file server in plan 9 "by definition" if you like interprets the 9P protocol. there's no such guarantee for an arbitrary "daemon". ("That same daemon that hath gulled thee thus.")

Re: [9fans] inferno emu on arm

2011-01-14 Thread Jacob Todd
Set $objtype to arm in mkconfig? On Jan 14, 2011 6:08 PM, "Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan" wrote: > hi all, > > i am trying to run inferno emu on plan9 running on sheevaplug. > > does anyone know how to build emu for arm? i am surprised that it is missing > in inferno-os repository. or am i missing so

[9fans] inferno emu on arm

2011-01-14 Thread Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
hi all, i am trying to run inferno emu on plan9 running on sheevaplug. does anyone know how to build emu for arm? i am surprised that it is missing in inferno-os repository. or am i missing something? any help appreciated. thanks dharani

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:13:48 EST erik quanstrom wrote: > > > > Not in the sense that you can purge specific files you don't > > > > want and continue using the same venti. But you can do what a > > > > copying garbage collector does -- it copies all the data > > > > *reachable* from the data `roo

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread Duke Normandin
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > > Not in the sense that you can purge specific files you don't > > > > want and continue using the same venti. But you can do what a > > > > copying garbage collector does -- it copies all the data > > > > *reachable* from the data `roots' (a set of

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread Duke Normandin
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > Am I close? > > a Plan 9 "file server" is just a program that responds to the 9P > protocol described in section 5 of the manual. (there is library > support for writing a file server.) a file server can provide a > service other than conventional d

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> > > Not in the sense that you can purge specific files you don't > > > want and continue using the same venti. But you can do what a > > > copying garbage collector does -- it copies all the data > > > *reachable* from the data `roots' (a set of objects you know > > > you want). What is left behi

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread Charles Forsyth
> Am I close? a Plan 9 "file server" is just a program that responds to the 9P protocol described in section 5 of the manual. (there is library support for writing a file server.) a file server can provide a service other than conventional data storage: consider rio, the plan 9 window system, a

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> Do you mean what is being referred to below as "worm HDD": > > http://www.storagesearch.com/view64.html this instead: http://www.plasmon.com/archive_solutions/udodrives.html or a bd+r. for cost reasons, this isn't that practical anymore. > I think that I'm also getting confused with the use o

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread Duke Normandin
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > i don't use venti, i use the original file server, but this still holds > > > true of any worm system. in the 6 years i've had my worm, i've used > > > 12gb. yet the size of my worm went from 18gb to 1500gb. > > > > So the sub-partition fossil is

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread Duke Normandin
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011, Federico G. Benavento wrote: > > The Fossil partition being the partition where Plan9 will be running. > > Venti should then be on another partition? > > > > Plan 9 partitions are (in the standard installation) subdivided, > 9fat - for the kernel > fossil - ... > swap - ... >

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread Federico G. Benavento
> The Fossil partition being the partition where Plan9 will be running. > Venti should then be on another partition? > Plan 9 partitions are (in the standard installation) subdivided, 9fat - for the kernel fossil - ... swap - ... plus "arenas" and "isect" if you chose to install venti but come o

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:54:04 EST erik quanstrom wrote: > > Not in the sense that you can purge specific files you don't > > want and continue using the same venti. But you can do what a > > copying garbage collector does -- it copies all the data > > *reachable* from the data `roots' (a set of ob

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread Charles Forsyth
things shouldn't be written to venti by existing software unless there is (or soon will be) a root that refers to them, so i don't think the copying scheme would work as things stand.

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> Not in the sense that you can purge specific files you don't > want and continue using the same venti. But you can do what a > copying garbage collector does -- it copies all the data > *reachable* from the data `roots' (a set of objects you know > you want). What is left behind is considered gar

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread Bakul Shah
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:31:00 MST Duke Normandin wrote: > > > I wouldn't try it with less than a 20 GB disk, with say 2 GB for > > Fossil and the rest for Venti; unless you start storing music and > > video on there, that should give you plenty of room to work with. > > Ok! Can Venti be managed?

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> > i don't use venti, i use the original file server, but this still holds > > true of any worm system. in the 6 years i've had my worm, i've used > > 12gb. yet the size of my worm went from 18gb to 1500gb. > > So the sub-partition fossil is mounts a WORM drive/device? or can this > sub-partiti

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread Duke Normandin
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > The Fossil partition being the partition where Plan9 will be running. > > > Venti should then be on another partition? > > > > > Yes. > > i don't think that this conveys the right meaning. plan 9 is compatable with > fdisk-style partitions, but typ

[9fans] Plan9 topology

2011-01-14 Thread erik quanstrom
> > The Fossil partition being the partition where Plan9 will be running. > > Venti should then be on another partition? > > > Yes. i don't think that this conveys the right meaning. plan 9 is compatable with fdisk-style partitions, but typically subpartitions them with prep-style partitions. so