Re: [9fans] etheresis driver

2010-05-03 Thread Jacob Todd
On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 10:16:36PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > if i had to guess, i'd imagine that the problem is in talking > to the eeprom. do you have any additional information on > the chip you have? for example, pci output or > output from /dev/kmesg on boot? pngs are fine. http://group

Re: [9fans] etheresis driver

2010-05-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> It doesn't seem to be working with my laptop. I've tried your advice from the > ``native install'' thread, but was never able to get it to work. I probably > missed something. I'll test the 83815 driver again tomorrow. if i had to guess, i'd imagine that the problem is in talking to the eeprom.

Re: [9fans] etheresis driver

2010-05-03 Thread Jacob Todd
On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 02:30:58PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > doesn't ether83815.c work? It doesn't seem to be working with my laptop. I've tried your advice from the ``native install'' thread, but was never able to get it to work. I probably missed something. I'll test the 83815 driver again t

Re: [9fans] New user

2010-05-03 Thread erik quanstrom
you have something in your path by the name of sed, sort, echo, sed which are executable but not $objtype binaries. - erik

Re: [9fans] Distributed Pipelines

2010-05-03 Thread Russ Cox
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:10 AM, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Does it mean IL has performance issue on long-distance networks? > > As I understand it, the real problem is that Internet > doesn't handle IL well. They are both problems. Routing issues aside, IL is particularly ba

Re: [9fans] New user

2010-05-03 Thread Akshat Kumar
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:13 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > the manual indicies are out-of-date on sources. > > cd /sys/man; mk indices > > - erik The following problem occurs: cpu% mk indices for (i in [0-8]){ /sys/lib/man/secindex $i > $i/INDEX /sys/lib/man/mkhtmlindex $i > $i/IND

Re: [9fans] An Important Node

2010-05-03 Thread Akshat Kumar
OK, placing this in /rc/bin/service works well now. Thank you for that suggestion. Best, ak On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:07 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > if you put your script in the listen -t directory, > you won't be none. > > - erik

Re: [9fans] New user

2010-05-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> >>> trying to figure out how to view html pages but no sucess. > >> > >> I use htmlfmt(1), you can do the same until somebody explains how to > >> use abaco(1) instead. Neither will do tables. > > > > false. abaco does tables correctly. see readweb(1) for > > details on how to start abaco. >

Re: [9fans] An Important Node

2010-05-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> however, the program runs as user none, and > requires access to /dev/lp7 (which I believe is > not in its namespace, in the first place). > Perhaps this approach would work better if I > ran usb/print on boot up - although still, the > file /dev/lp7 is chmod 660 for user and group > bootes. Idea

Re: [9fans] An Important Node

2010-05-03 Thread Akshat Kumar
I tried this initially, with the following in the file: exec /rc/bin/lp -H -d officejet5610 >>[2] /sys/lib/lp/log/officejet5610 however, the program runs as user none, and requires access to /dev/lp7 (which I believe is not in its namespace, in the first place). Perhaps this approach would work b

Re: [9fans] du and find

2010-05-03 Thread Jorden M
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:53 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: >> It's always been easier for me to use python's/perl's regular >> expressions when I needed to process a text file than to use plan9's. >> For simple things, e.g. while editing an ordinary text in acme/sam, >> plan9's regexps are just fine.

Re: [9fans] etheresis driver

2010-05-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> I was trying to compile a new kernel that included the ethersis[1] driver, > but I come across the following error when running `mk 'CONF=pcf'` > > 8c -FTVw ethersis.c > ethersis.c:118 external redeclaration of: Sse > GLOBL ENUM ethersis.c:118 > GLOBL ENUM

Re: [9fans] Distributed Pipelines

2010-05-03 Thread David du Colombier
> Does it mean IL has performance issue on long-distance networks? As I understand it, the real problem is that Internet doesn't handle IL well. -- David du Colombier

[9fans] etheresis driver

2010-05-03 Thread Jacob Todd
I was trying to compile a new kernel that included the ethersis[1] driver, but I come across the following error when running `mk 'CONF=pcf'` 8c -FTVw ethersis.c ethersis.c:118 external redeclaration of: Sse GLOBL ENUM ethersis.c:118 GLOBL ENUM

Re: [9fans] du and find

2010-05-03 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 3 May 2010, at 16:29, j...@9srv.net wrote: On 3 May 2010, at 14:41, Steve Simon wrote: Or just apply runs grep -r patch... % man 1 grep | grep '\-r' % Key word being patch. Oh right! Well, if the point of this thread is to talk about something better than grep -r in the first place.

Re: [9fans] du and find

2010-05-03 Thread Steve Simon
> > Or just apply runs grep -r patch... > % man 1 grep | grep '\-r' s/runs/ron's/ see 9fans passim for the patch. -Steve

Re: [9fans] du and find

2010-05-03 Thread jake
> On 3 May 2010, at 14:41, Steve Simon wrote: >> Or just apply runs grep -r patch... > > % man 1 grep | grep '\-r' > % > Key word being patch.

Re: [9fans] du and find

2010-05-03 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 3 May 2010, at 14:41, Steve Simon wrote: on Plan 9 you'd probably want to make a wrapper for grep anyway if you do a lot of recursive searching. Or just apply runs grep -r patch... % man 1 grep | grep '\-r' % -Steve -- Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it. -- Al

Re: [9fans] du and find

2010-05-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> It's always been easier for me to use python's/perl's regular > expressions when I needed to process a text file than to use plan9's. > For simple things, e.g. while editing an ordinary text in acme/sam, > plan9's regexps are just fine. i find it hard to think of cases where i would need such so

Re: [9fans] du and find

2010-05-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> http://betterthangrep.com/ > > it does not seem to work out of the box (expecting some unix paths), but > since there's a perl port and that thing is supposed to be more or > less self contained (for the standalone version), maybe it's not too > much work for someone interested enough. don't be

Re: [9fans] An Important Node

2010-05-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> On the Plan 9 side, then, the CPU server listens: > > aux/listen1 -tv tcp!*!PORT $home/bin/rc/print & makes more sense to put this script in /rc/bin/service/tcpPORT - erik

Re: [9fans] New user

2010-05-03 Thread erik quanstrom
> things, but I don't know what would happen about local pages with > external links. Perhaps all we really need is for Abaco to understand > that things given on the command line can't possibly be relative > links. *pokes fgb* ;) html rendering is seperate. that's why you need to have webf

Re: [9fans] du and find

2010-05-03 Thread Steve Simon
> on Plan 9 you'd probably want to make a wrapper for grep anyway if you > do a lot of recursive searching. Or just apply runs grep -r patch... -Steve

Re: [9fans] New user

2010-05-03 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 3 May 2010, at 13:13, Akshat Kumar wrote: readweb does not need a man page. The source, /rc/bin/readweb itself is a guide to using abaco. Moreover, just run readweb and enjoy. Strange enough that a command without a man page was cited in a way used for man page references, but I thoug

Re: [9fans] du and find

2010-05-03 Thread Rudolf Sykora
On 3 May 2010 14:18, Akshat Kumar wrote: > Forgive my ignorance and irrelevance to this topic, > but what are the advantages of Perl's regular > expressions, over the implementation we have > currently in Plan 9? Regexps in Plan9 are on one hand much less powerful than Perl's, on the other hand t

Re: [9fans] du and find

2010-05-03 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 3 May 2010, at 13:26, Mathieu Lonjaret wrote: No idea, probably none. that would not be the interesting point, if any. it's just that the tool is already there and (should be) simpler to use than piping various commands around, as they illustrate below. Ack looks cute, but I think a fair

Re: [9fans] New user

2010-05-03 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 30 Apr 2010, at 09:23, ruel hernandez wrote: Hi, my name is ruel hernandez, a contract worker here in saudi arabia as an electrician. i really wanted to know how computers and operating systems are working, at first i tried linux but along the way i found plan9 sometime in sept. 2009. i

Re: [9fans] du and find

2010-05-03 Thread tlaronde
On Mon, May 03, 2010 at 02:26:07PM +0200, Mathieu Lonjaret wrote: > No idea, probably none. > > that would not be the interesting point, if any. it's just that the > tool is already there and (should be) simpler to use than piping > various commands around, as they illustrate below. > Date: Mon

Re: [9fans] du and find

2010-05-03 Thread Mathieu Lonjaret
No idea, probably none. that would not be the interesting point, if any. it's just that the tool is already there and (should be) simpler to use than piping various commands around, as they illustrate below. --- Begin Message --- >From the website: "ack is written purely in Perl, and takes adva

Re: [9fans] du and find

2010-05-03 Thread Akshat Kumar
>From the website: "ack is written purely in Perl, and takes advantage of the power of Perl's regular expressions." Forgive my ignorance and irrelevance to this topic, but what are the advantages of Perl's regular expressions, over the implementation we have currently in Plan 9? Thanks, ak On

Re: [9fans] New user

2010-05-03 Thread Akshat Kumar
readweb does not need a man page. The source, /rc/bin/readweb itself is a guide to using abaco. Moreover, just run readweb and enjoy. Best, ak P.S.: You might want to start webfs as a service and then mount it to /mnt/web, instead of starting a new webfs each session, as readweb does. This al

Re: [9fans] du and find

2010-05-03 Thread Mathieu Lonjaret
Hello, just because reviving old threads is fun... I've just found out about this: http://betterthangrep.com/ it does not seem to work out of the box (expecting some unix paths), but since there's a perl port and that thing is supposed to be more or less self contained (for the standalone versio

Re: [9fans] New user

2010-05-03 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 30 Apr 2010, at 12:41, erik quanstrom wrote: trying to figure out how to view html pages but no sucess. I use htmlfmt(1), you can do the same until somebody explains how to use abaco(1) instead. Neither will do tables. false. abaco does tables correctly. see readweb(1) for details on

[9fans] An Important Node

2010-05-03 Thread Akshat Kumar
With one network- and PS- incapable printer* in the household, and several computers with at least a few users, there was a need to have some sort of network capable printing device. The printer is hooked up via (just for added complexity) USB to the Plan 9 CPU server. Printing amongst Plan 9 comp

Re: [9fans] A simple experiment

2010-05-03 Thread Akshat Kumar
Doesn't make it past my Vonage modem/router. It would otherwise probably make it past the Cable modem. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:03 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > if you pick a random protocol type that's not tcp or udp and > the chances your little packets will make it across the intertubes > will