Re: [9fans] Plan9/Inferno realted BibTeX database?

2010-04-30 Thread EBo
Steve Simon said: > Search 8fans passim, there was alink to one of the US universities which had > a plan9 bibtex database. I searched around and could not find what you were referring to. > If you put one on sources, can you also convert it to refer format for those > of us who are still tro

Re: [9fans] Plan9/Inferno realted BibTeX database?

2010-04-30 Thread EBo
Jacob Todd said: > http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/plan9.html Thanks for the pointer. I've downloaded it and am taking a look at it now.

Re: [9fans] Plan9/Inferno realted BibTeX database?

2010-04-30 Thread Jacob Todd
http://www.math.utah.edu/pub/tex/bib/plan9.html pgp9VLgkkovDi.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [9fans] Plan9/Inferno realted BibTeX database?

2010-04-30 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
A university in Utah. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2010, at 3:59 PM, "Steve Simon" wrote: Search 8fans passim, there was alink to one of the US universities which had a plan9 bibtex database. If you put one on sources, can you also convert it to refer format for those of us who are st

Re: [9fans] Plan9/Inferno realted BibTeX database?

2010-04-30 Thread Steve Simon
Search 8fans passim, there was alink to one of the US universities which had a plan9 bibtex database. If you put one on sources, can you also convert it to refer format for those of us who are still troff luddites. -Steve

Re: [9fans] IL experiment

2010-04-30 Thread lucio
> Erik, I have a few syntax adjustments... Oops! Apologies to all. ++L

[9fans] IL experiment

2010-04-30 Thread lucio
Erik, I have a few syntax adjustments to /sys/src/9/ip/il.c that may interest you, can I mail you the diffs from the version in /n/sources/extra? Also, it seems a one-line adjustment to /sys/src/cmd/ndb/cs.c suffices to bring IL resolution back, I can mail you those diffs too. In return, I've los

Re: [9fans] A simple experiment

2010-04-30 Thread erik quanstrom
> > i don't see any reason why 9p couldn't use some of the same > > congestion control ideas. the trick would be to feed back packet loss > > detection and retransmission info to the point where file io gets > > turned into rpcs→the mount driver > > Agreed -- sort of what I meant by "I hope 9p ev

Re: [9fans] Plan9/Inferno realted BibTeX database?

2010-04-30 Thread erik quanstrom
> in addition to publisher, year, venue (for conferences), there is also page > numbers, institutions... Just because the papers are published electronically > does not mean that they do not or cannot have this information. i'll put the pdf of the proceedings up as soon as i get an electronic cop

Re: [9fans] A simple experiment

2010-04-30 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 01:01:59 EDT erik quanstrom wrote: > > If the sender->receiver pipe can hold N bytes and the sender > > is streaming (that is, keeping the pipe full), the sender > > *will* be ahead of the receiver by N bytes. So a *streaming* > > protcol has to allow it to be N bytes ahead. >

Re: [9fans] Plan9/Inferno realted BibTeX database?

2010-04-30 Thread EBo
> > I've been doing some background reading for my thesis and have been having > > some trouble figuring out how to cite some of the papers on IWP9, > > cat-v.org, etc. > > What kind of trouble? Is there something missing that you need? > i.e. publisher (there usually isn't one for the papers),

Re: [9fans] Plan9/Inferno realted BibTeX database?

2010-04-30 Thread Jacob Todd
On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 08:18:09AM -0600, EBo wrote: > > I've been doing some background reading for my thesis and have been having > some trouble figuring out how to cite some of the papers on IWP9, cat-v.org, > etc. What kind of trouble? Is there something missing that you need? i.e. publisher

Re: [9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-04-30 Thread EBo
Pavel Klinkovsky said: > > And all activity seems to stop with cursor blinking.  Keyboard unresponsive > > to CTL-R. > > It starts to be typical... > Try Erik's 9atom.iso. ;-) maybe it is time to try to pack-port some of Erik's stuff to the canonical source. EBo --

Re: [9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-04-30 Thread Pavel Klinkovsky
> And all activity seems to stop with cursor blinking.  Keyboard unresponsive > to CTL-R. It starts to be typical... Try Erik's 9atom.iso. ;-) Pavel

Re: [9fans] A simple experiment

2010-04-30 Thread Anthony Sorace
I suspect the reaction is based on being forced to use it when you'd rather not, like many residential ISPs require. It's particularly upsetting when the CPE doesn't even have a globally routable address. How much is many? Um, some? I don't have any sort of global count. I've had 7 broadband

[9fans] Plan9/Inferno realted BibTeX database?

2010-04-30 Thread EBo
I've been doing some background reading for my thesis and have been having some trouble figuring out how to cite some of the papers on IWP9, cat-v.org, etc. If people would be willing to email me BibTeX citations I would be happy to collate the collection and put it out on contrib. Thanks and

Re: [9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-04-30 Thread erik quanstrom
> Some additional info on the hardware: > - CD Rom - Philips DVD+-RW DVD8801 ATA Device > - IDE Controller is an Intel 82801G (ICH7 family) Ultra ATA Storage > Controllers ­ 27D7F, PCI Bus 0,IRQ: 0x000E (14) try 9atom. it works around quirks in ich7, especially with sata + pata combos. ftp:

[9fans] Almost immediate ISO Boot Failure

2010-04-30 Thread Michael Arnold
Booting from the CR-ROM ISO download on 28 April and get the following: PSB1... Plan 9 from Bell Labs ELCR:0E28 Clockinit...alarminit...meminit...spollo...pcimatch...kbdinit...plan9.ini probe...probing floppy...probing floppy...probing BIOS...probing BIOS...islba:drive 0X80 extensions version 48.

Re: [9fans] ctrl radeon: not working for ATI Radeon 9600 Mobility?

2010-04-30 Thread Gabriel Díaz
hello Vesa code has some problems to deal with ati hd5750 cards here. Themouse cursor disappear when a lot of scrolling is happening, vesa is unable to drive the card beyond 8bit depth modes or 1280x1024 resolutions. Besides that, the performance i see is almost the same i had with the radeon

Re: [9fans] New user

2010-04-30 Thread lucio
> false. abaco does tables correctly. see readweb(1) for > details on how to start abaco. Oh, this crept in while I wasn't watching (I hope!). My apologies to fgb. ++L

Re: [9fans] ctrl radeon: not working for ATI Radeon 9600 Mobility?

2010-04-30 Thread erik quanstrom
> I was curious to see how performance differs from vesa. me, too. radeon performance is not good with vesa. > meanwhile, am I right if I think that the whole graphics math is done > on cpu (I mean - not on gpu), so the faster the cpu the better vesa > (and any) driver performance? cpu speed se

Re: [9fans] New user

2010-04-30 Thread erik quanstrom
> > trying to figure out how to view html pages but no sucess. > > I use htmlfmt(1), you can do the same until somebody explains how to > use abaco(1) instead. Neither will do tables. false. abaco does tables correctly. see readweb(1) for details on how to start abaco. - erik

Re: [9fans] A simple experiment

2010-04-30 Thread hiro
> erik said: > >> why is using nat to make many hosts look like one a bad thing? > > I suspect the reaction is based on being forced to use it when you'd > rather not, like many residential ISPs require. It's particularly > upsetting when the CPE doesn't even have a globally routable address. How

Re: [9fans] A simple experiment

2010-04-30 Thread Charles Forsyth
>I agree that NAT and stateful firewalls (e.g. 'ip inspect' in IOS) >would need explicit support to understand the packet layout. it's a pity that the protocol revisions didn't move the port-addressing function outside individual protocols.

Re: [9fans] New user

2010-04-30 Thread lucio
> trying to figure out how to view html pages but no sucess. I use htmlfmt(1), you can do the same until somebody explains how to use abaco(1) instead. Neither will do tables. ++L

Re: [9fans] ctrl radeon: not working for ATI Radeon 9600 Mobility?

2010-04-30 Thread Anton.Pavlovetsky
On Apr 29, 2:23 pm, quans...@quanstro.net (erik quanstrom) wrote: > the vesa driver works. I was curious to see how performance differs from vesa. And, meanwhile, am I right if I think that the whole graphics math is done on cpu (I mean - not on gpu), so the faster the cpu the better vesa (and any

Re: [9fans] ctrl radeon: not working for ATI Radeon 9600 Mobility?

2010-04-30 Thread Anton.Pavlovetsky
On Apr 29, 3:55 pm, m...@acm.jhu.edu (Venkatesh Srinivas) wrote: > is it an m10? The device is ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]. What is the r300hack?

[9fans] Venti problem...?

2010-04-30 Thread Pavel Klinkovsky
Hi all, I installed Erik's 9atom.iso (official distribution fails to perform the bios boot): - fossil+venti - disk structure (proposed by installation process) 100 MB 9fat 512 B nvram 38057 MB fossil 190288 MB arenas 9514 MB isect 512 MB swap After the reboot I can see: 2010/0427 20:53:40 err 4:

[9fans] New user

2010-04-30 Thread ruel hernandez
Hi, my name is ruel hernandez, a contract worker here in saudi arabia as an electrician. i really wanted to know how computers and operating systems are working, at first i tried linux but along the way i found plan9 sometime in sept. 2009. i downloaded the sept iso and tried it live, at work since