Re: [9fans] android hacking?

2009-10-07 Thread Christopher Nielsen
I just bought one last week, so I haven't had much chance to hack around on it. I am definitely interested, though. Work has been and will continue to be busy, so I haven't had / won't have much time to work on side projects. On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 15:32, Tim Newsham wrote: > Anyone playing with

[9fans] android hacking?

2009-10-07 Thread Tim Newsham
Anyone playing with android phones? There's a lot of devices on it that might be interesting to export. Would be pretty easy to make a 9p server that gives you access to the GPS positioning, the accelerometer, or processed position (compass, pitch, roll), etc.. Are any of these of interest to pe

Re: [9fans] vga support for Via Unichrome

2009-10-07 Thread W B Hacker
Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) wrote: Besides Unichrome, which CPU, RAM, MB & ~bridge chips are you trying to use it with? ISTR having it up on a VIA C3 ~ 700 MHz, 1 GB SDRAM with embedded Unichrome onboard about 2+ years ago.. It's a 1GHz C7 EPIA mini-ITX board, CN400 chipset (I *think* -

Re: [9fans] /sys/include/ip.h 5c(1)

2009-10-07 Thread Aharon Robbins
In article <13426df10910061432y17cf8632ta09af4ffe2153...@mail.gmail.com> you write: >On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Aharon Robbins wrote: >> I understand all your points, and many of them are good ones. But there >> really are places where you don't want to go, and into the chipset >> is one of

Re: [9fans] vga support for Via Unichrome

2009-10-07 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX)
> Besides Unichrome, which CPU, RAM, MB & ~bridge chips are you trying to use > it with? > > ISTR having it up on a VIA C3 ~ 700 MHz, 1 GB SDRAM with embedded Unichrome > onboard about 2+ years ago.. It's a 1GHz C7 EPIA mini-ITX board, CN400 chipset (I *think* -- I can't get at it right this se

Re: [9fans] vga support for Via Unichrome

2009-10-07 Thread W B Hacker
W B Hacker wrote: Lyndon Nerenberg - VE6BBM/VE7TFX wrote: Is anyone working on Unichrome vga support? Besides Unichrome, which CPU, RAM, MB & ~bridge chips are you trying to use it with? ISTR having it up on a VIA C3 ~ 700 MHz, 1 GB SDRAM with embedded Unichrome onboard about 2+ years ago

Re: [9fans] vga support for Via Unichrome

2009-10-07 Thread W B Hacker
Lyndon Nerenberg - VE6BBM/VE7TFX wrote: Is anyone working on Unichrome vga support? Besides Unichrome, which CPU, RAM, MB & ~bridge chips are you trying to use it with? ISTR having it up on a VIA C3 ~ 700 MHz, 1 GB SDRAM with embedded Unichrome onboard about 2+ years ago.. And the CD st

[9fans] vga support for Via Unichrome

2009-10-07 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg - VE6BBM/VE7TFX
Is anyone working on Unichrome vga support?

Re: [9fans] IWP9 hack session

2009-10-07 Thread Tim Newsham
Me, I see us sitting in the hotel lobby one evening surrounded by pitchers and wires and boards and maybe soldering irons. I already almost got thrown out a nice hotel for doing that sort of thing ... that's all it takes nowadays I guess. http://www.thenewsh.com/~newsham/paranoia.jpg ron Tim

Re: [9fans] iwp9: getting from Atlanta to Athens

2009-10-07 Thread Jeff Sickel
Cheaper than car rental for wed-sat. That said, I'm arriving Wednesday morning in Atlanta and have a car lined up if anyone needs a ride. -jas On Oct 7, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Michaelian Ennis wrote: http://www.pacificwings.com/gsky/gs/ $89 USD commuter flight round-trip Atlanta - Athens. i

Re: [9fans] iwp9: getting from Atlanta to Athens

2009-10-07 Thread W B Hacker
Michaelian Ennis wrote: http://www.pacificwings.com/gsky/gs/ $89 USD commuter flight round-trip Atlanta - Athens. ian viamichelin.com puts it at 127 km, ~12 Euro for fuel, and 1hr 40 minutes. Bill

Re: [9fans] iwp9: getting from Atlanta to Athens

2009-10-07 Thread Michaelian Ennis
http://www.pacificwings.com/gsky/gs/ $89 USD commuter flight round-trip Atlanta - Athens. ian

Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it

2009-10-07 Thread W B Hacker
erik quanstrom wrote: Would you please start reading posts before replying to them? The only thing I have proposed is that people stop gratituously creating programs which treat empty lists exceptionally. If that is what you mean by the paragraph above then I do try to implement it, and am quit

Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it

2009-10-07 Thread erik quanstrom
> Would you please start reading posts before replying to them? The > only thing I have proposed is that people stop gratituously creating > programs which treat empty lists exceptionally. If that is what you > mean by the paragraph above then I do try to implement it, and am > quite happy with t

Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it

2009-10-07 Thread John Stalker
> > Everything can be carried to extreme. Even ancestor worship. The > > basic utilities were written by smart people who didn't always fully > > understand what they were doing. There is nothing radical about > > suggesting that we try not to repeat their mistakes. > > well why not take your o

Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it

2009-10-07 Thread erik quanstrom
> Everything can be carried to extreme. Even ancestor worship. The > basic utilities were written by smart people who didn't always fully > understand what they were doing. There is nothing radical about > suggesting that we try not to repeat their mistakes. well why not take your own advice an

Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it

2009-10-07 Thread roger peppe
2009/10/7 John Stalker : > Rm is, I think, an example of someone who simply wasn't thinking > properly.  In > >        rm `{ complicated pipeline } > > I almost certainly want the exit status to reflect whether all the > selected files were deleted, even if there weren't any, so I want > rm without

Re: [9fans] mishandling empty lists - let's fix it

2009-10-07 Thread John Stalker
> one last note on this because it is kind of interesting. ... > I think that in limited situations, inconsistency is a good thing. > And, conversely, one can take consistency as an absolute good, and run > off the road. ... > ron I agree with most of this, and with most of what I've edited out. B

Re: [9fans] /sys/include/ip.h 5c(1)

2009-10-07 Thread Richard Miller
> Just like you wouldn't have wanted to redo the microcode > in your Vax 11/750, even if you could have. Speak for yourself. I don't know about the VAX, but writing microcode for the Perkin-Elmer 3220 was fun and useful as well. It was nicely integerated into Unix, so different processes could ha

Re: [9fans] IWP9 hack session

2009-10-07 Thread Mechiel Lukkien
On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 12:50:18PM -0700, ron minnich wrote: > I'd like to have a hack session the wed. morning before IWP9. > > What I'd like to propose is a sheeva plugfest. People commit to bringing a > plug > and we get them set up to run Plan 9. > > Any interest? inferno might be a good ta