The special case is here that he runs qemu. And the good news is: In
qemu you are always in the same simulated network by default. Which is:
your IP: 10.0.2.15
gateway: 10.0.2.2
dns: 10.0.2.3
hardcode these and you should be fine. (if you want to connect to the
qemu machine: fiddle around wi
afaik, I can't ping from qemu, so try hget http://google.com or something
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 2:01 AM, Jim Habegger wrote:
> I'm working through the Plan 9 documentation at
> http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/documentation/index.html.
>
> I'm running Plan 9 in QEMU in Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex
cat /net/ipselftab and /net/iproute to see what address is assigned by
ipconfig. also, start ndb/cs.
the order is sometimes important, so i always do:
ndb/cs
ip/ipconfig
ndb/dns -r # see man page for that argument
cheers!
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Jim Habegger wrote:
> I'm working thro
I'm working through the Plan 9 documentation at
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/documentation/index.html.
I'm running Plan 9 in QEMU in Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex.
qemu plan9jim.img -k en-us -no-reboot
>
I have to wait a few seconds before responding to each prompt, to avoid
having it freeze and
ericvh stated it better in the "FAWN" thread. choosing the abstraction
that makes the resulting environments have required attributes
(reliable, consistent, easy, etc.) will be the trick. i believe with
the current state of the Internet -- e.g. lack of speed and security
-- service abstraction i
On Sun Apr 19 21:44:25 EDT 2009, 9...@9netics.com wrote:
> i think John mentioned he was using cgi.c that's in Russ' contrib
> area. did i imagine it? (entirely possible)
i'm sorry. i took "cgi" to be a free variable. my mistake.
- erik
i think John mentioned he was using cgi.c that's in Russ' contrib
area. did i imagine it? (entirely possible)
> On Sun Apr 19 18:04:51 EDT 2009, benave...@gmail.com wrote:
>> skip is pretty much on the point exactly the same convention is valid
>> for cgifs.
>>
>> http://machine/cgifs/script?va
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
> Given the feedback from the list, I've come up with two alternatives.
> (Well, one of them was actually Mechiel's brainchild).
>
> Idea #1 (From Mechiel)
> Instead of doing typed allocations, give every user an allocation
> pool, from which
again cgi is a standalone app, /n/sources/contrib/rsc/cgi.c is the one
setting QUERY_STRING
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 8:21 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
> On Sun Apr 19 18:04:51 EDT 2009, benave...@gmail.com wrote:
>> skip is pretty much on the point exactly the same convention is valid
>> for cgifs.
>
On Sun Apr 19 18:04:51 EDT 2009, benave...@gmail.com wrote:
> skip is pretty much on the point exactly the same convention is valid
> for cgifs.
>
> http://machine/cgifs/script?var0=val0&var1=val1
>
> cgi as cgifs are programs that parse the requested uri and from there,
> after the 2nd '/', get
skip is pretty much on the point exactly the same convention is valid
for cgifs.
http://machine/cgifs/script?var0=val0&var1=val1
cgi as cgifs are programs that parse the requested uri and from there,
after the 2nd '/', get the script name "script" in the example above.
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 2:
> people's ideas about what's complicated or hard don't change
> as quickly as computing power and storage has increased. i
> think there's currently a failure of imagination, at least on
> my part. there must be problems that aren't considered
> because they were hard.
>
> as an old example, i
> The seesion would not be suspended, it would continue to operate as
> your agent and identity and, typically, accept mail on your behalf,
> perform "background" operations such as pay your accounts and in
> general represent you to the web to the extent that security (or lack
> thereof, for many
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 09:27:43AM -0500, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:
>
> I'm not convinced that such ad-hoc DSM models are the way to go as a
> general principal. Full blown DSM didn't fair very well in the past.
> Plan 9 distributed applications take a different approach and instead
> of sharing
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> I'm currently in the process of designing an clustered storage,
> inspired by venti and git, which also supports removing files,
> on-demand sychronization, etc. I'll let you know when I've
> got something to present.
The only presentatio
* Latchesar Ionkov wrote:
Hi,
> I talked with a guy that's is doing parallel filesystem work, and
> according to him 80% of all filesystem operations when running an HPC
> job are for checkpointing (not that much restart). I just don't see
> how checkpointing can scale knowing how bad the parall
On Sun Apr 19 12:03:54 EDT 2009, 9...@9netics.com wrote:
> you could make local mods to your httpd so that paths starting with
> /cgi are given similar treatment as those that start with /magic; it
> would execute "cgi" and pass it the arguments as usual. then url is:
>
> http://myserver/cgi/foo?
> To clarify, I meant that given X vs. Y, the cost benefits of X
> eventually overwhelm the initial technical benefits of Y.
>
> With SATA vs. SCSI in particular, I wasn't so much thinking of command
> sets or physical connections but of providing cluster scale storage
> (i.e., 10's or 100's of TB
* Uriel wrote:
Hi folks,
I've completely followed the whole thread, but just a few ideas
how it could look like:
Essentially we need the operations:
#1: read from some file, ev. w/ some offset and a limit
#2: write to some file, ev. w/ some offset
#3: create a new file
#4: re
you could make local mods to your httpd so that paths starting with
/cgi are given similar treatment as those that start with /magic; it
would execute "cgi" and pass it the arguments as usual. then url is:
http://myserver/cgi/foo?var1=1&var2=2
and in script "foo" the $QUERY_STRING will be "var1=
>> Economics beats technology every time (e.g., x86/amd64 vs.
>> MIPS/Itanium, Ethernet vs. Infiniband, SATA vs. SCSI) so
>> don't try to fight it.
>
> if those examples prove your point, i'm not sure i agree.
>
> having just completed a combined-mode sata/sas driver,
> scsi vs ata is is fresh on m
Eric and Anthony, thank you.
I'm stepping through the Plan 9 documentation at
http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/documentation/index.html. As you
noticed, Anthony, I missed a step in adding a new user:
con -l /srv/fscons
>
That didn't work in 9vx either, I imagine for the reasons you explaine
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Skip Tavakkolian <9...@9netics.com> wrote:
> > Well, in the octopus you have a fixed part, the pc, but all other
> > machines come and go. The feeling is very much that your stuff is in
> > the cloud.
>
> i was going to mention this. to me the current view of clo
Jim Habegger wrote:
// Adding a new user:
that's not a 9vx issue; either you're misreading the documentation or
it's incorrectly written (i'm not sure which bit you're reading for
that). those commands are intended to be given to the file server,
fossil, after connecting to the console posted in
> john, eric, and yy, thanks!
>
> 9vx isn't working out very well for me so far. I'm trying to practice
> everything in the documentation on the Plan 9 site, then I'll work on the
> ideas that have been posted for me here. I was going to practice first in
> 9vx, because it's easier to switch back
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 2:58 AM, John Barham wrote:
> I certainly can't think ahead 20 years but I think it's safe to say
> that the next 5 (at least doing HPC and large-scale web type stuff)
> will increasingly look like this:
> http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/22504/?a=f, which talks
>
john, eric, and yy, thanks!
9vx isn't working out very well for me so far. I'm trying to practice
everything in the documentation on the Plan 9 site, then I'll work on the
ideas that have been posted for me here. I was going to practice first in
9vx, because it's easier to switch back and forth be
On Sun Apr 19 09:13:28 EDT 2009, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote:
> >>http://myserver/magic/cgi/foo?var1=val1?var2=val2
> >
> > i think you wish
> >
> > http://myserver/magic/cgi?var1=val1&var2=val2
> >
> > - erik
>
> So what are these magical vars? Where do I specify
> the cgi program to ru
>> http://myserver/magic/cgi/foo?var1=val1?var2=val2
>
> i think you wish
>
> http://myserver/magic/cgi?var1=val1&var2=val2
>
> - erik
So what are these magical vars? Where do I specify
the cgi program to run?
John
> I think the key to successfully being able to use Plan 9 commercially
> is to use its unique technical advantages to exploit disruptive
> economic changes.
works for coraid.
> Economics beats technology every time (e.g., x86/amd64 vs.
> MIPS/Itanium, Ethernet vs. Infiniband, SATA vs. SCSI) so
>
> http://myserver/magic/cgi/foo?var1=val1?var2=val2
i think you wish
http://myserver/magic/cgi?var1=val1&var2=val2
- erik
2009/4/19 Jim Habegger :
> ... I did learn that I have to press buttons 1 and 3 together, instead of
> shift-3, to simulate button 2.
IMO, this is a bug. The Shift+Button3 = Button2 behaviour is
documented in the man page. I sent a (one-line) patch to Russ, but it
looks like it hasn't been applied
I certainly can't think ahead 20 years but I think it's safe to say
that the next 5 (at least doing HPC and large-scale web type stuff)
will increasingly look like this:
http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/22504/?a=f, which talks
about building a cluster from AMD Geode (!) nodes w/ compact fl
> Well, in the octopus you have a fixed part, the pc, but all other
> machines come and go. The feeling is very much that your stuff is in
> the cloud.
i was going to mention this. to me the current view of cloud
computing as evidence by papers like this[1] are basically hardware
infrastructu
> http://myserver/magic/cgi/foo
check the logfile /sys/log/httpd/clf
also, don't you want to do somthing more like:
http://myserver/magic/cgi/foo?var1=val1?var2=val2
This is an educated guess rather tha experience talking.
-Steve
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