Re: [zfs-discuss] [dtrace-discuss] dtrace nfs requests on a zfs filesystem

2011-07-21 Thread Casper . Dik


>I was aware of that suggestion but found it so ugly that I never tried it. I
>ditched pride and embraced pragmatism. And yes running find did resolve all
>names. Could you be so kind and trouble the gentleman down the hall and ask
>them what's happening and why? Perhaps something can be done about it in
>code. With some pointers I might look into it.


The pathnames are cached with the vnode but they are only created when the 
filename is looked up (open, stat, etc).  Find will look up all the files;
but without that, it won't know the name.  NFSv3 is stateless and the
look up could have been done a long time ago (the server might be 
rebooted).

Casper

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[zfs-discuss] Backblaze likes Hitachi Deskstar 5K3000 HDS5C3030ALA630

2011-07-21 Thread Eugen Leitl

http://blog.backblaze.com/2011/07/20/petabytes-on-a-budget-v2-0revealing-more-secrets/

Seem to be real 512 Byte sectors, too.

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[zfs-discuss] Raidz2 slow read speed (under 5MB/s)

2011-07-21 Thread Jonathan Chang
Hello all,
I'm building a file server (or just a storage that I intend to access by 
Workgroup from primarily Windows machines) using zfs raidz2 and openindiana 
148. I will be using this to stream blu-ray movies and other media, so I will 
be happy if I get just 20MB/s reads, which seems like a pretty low standard 
considering some people are getting 100+. This is my first time with OI, and 
raid, for that matter, so I hope you guys have a little patience for a noob. :)

I figured out how to setup the vdevs and smbshare after some trial and error, 
and got my Windows box to see the share. Transferring a 40GB file to the share 
yields 55-80MB/s, not earth-shattering, but satisfactory IMO. The problem is 
when I transfer the same file back to the Windows box, it went to less than 
5MB/s. I then copied a 1GB file, and then moved that 1GB file from the raidz2 
drives to the root drive (SSD), in attempt to isolate the problem. That was 
less than 5MB/s. The same file, once again, copied from the root drive to the 
raidz2 was fast, maybe 70-100MB/s.

The problem here as far as I can tell is either some setting within zfs or the 
HBA controller. Or maybe... even the timing issue with WD Green drives 
shouldn't create that much disparity.

I've attached the iostat of when activity is idle, when copying from raidz2 to 
root ("read"), and for comparison, copying to raidz2 from root ("write"). 
Please note the intermittent idling in all disks (except 1?) when the file is 
copied from the raidz2 volume to anywhere else. I have no idea what that's 
about, but the drives will drop to 0 every couple of seconds, and repeat.

My system is as follows:
10 WD20EARS (bad idea? I only found out after I bought them.) in raidz2 config
32GB SSD for root drive for OS install
Supermicro USAS-L8i HBA card (1068E chipset I believe?)
6GB RAM
500 watt power supply
AMD Athlon II X2 260 CPU

Here's my zpool:
pool: rpool
 state: ONLINE
 scan: none requested
config:

NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM
rpool   ONLINE   0 0 0
  c2t0d0s0  ONLINE   0 0 0

errors: No known data errors

  pool: solaris
 state: ONLINE
 scan: none requested
config:

NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM
solaris ONLINE   0 0 0
  raidz2-0  ONLINE   0 0 0
c2t4d0  ONLINE   0 0 0
c2t5d0  ONLINE   0 0 0
c1t0d0  ONLINE   0 0 0
c1t1d0  ONLINE   0 0 0
c1t2d0  ONLINE   0 0 0
c1t3d0  ONLINE   0 0 0
c1t4d0  ONLINE   0 0 0
c1t5d0  ONLINE   0 0 0
c1t6d0  ONLINE   0 0 0
c1t7d0  ONLINE   0 0 0

errors: No known data errors

I'd greatly appreciate it if someone could give me some leads on where the 
problem might be. I've spent the past 2 days on this, and it's very frustrating 
since I would actually be very happy getting even 10MB/s read. 

Regards.
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Idle-iostat
Description: Binary data


Read-iostat
Description: Binary data


Write-iostat
Description: Binary data
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Re: [zfs-discuss] GUID zpool

2011-07-21 Thread Evgeny Fritsler
Hello All ,


I am looking for some way change GUID for zpool  on unix Solaris SAN  , maybe 
some one know ?
We need copy on storage level volumes and open on same mashine .


Regards,
Evgeny 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Raidz2 slow read speed (under 5MB/s)

2011-07-21 Thread Orvar Korvar
Have you tried to boot from LiveCD in Solaris 11 Express and compare?
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Re: [zfs-discuss] latest zpool version in solaris 11 express

2011-07-21 Thread Stephan Budach

Am 20.07.11 18:31, schrieb Brandon High:

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:21 AM, Edward Ned Harvey
  wrote:

Kidding aside, for anyone finding this thread at a later time, here's the
answer.  It sounds unnecessarily complex at first, but then I went through
it ... Only took like a minute or two.  It was exceptionally easy in fact.
https://pkg-register.oracle.com

Do you need a support contract in order to access the certificate
application? I'm getting the following error when I try to get a cert:
"There has been a problem with contacting the entitlement server. You
will only be able to issue new certificates for public products.
Please try again later"
Yeah, I think you need a valid CSI. I do have a Solaris Support contract 
and I had no issues getting my certifcate.


Cheers,
budy
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Re: [zfs-discuss] Raidz2 slow read speed (under 5MB/s)

2011-07-21 Thread Jonathan Chang
Do you mean that OI148 might have a bug that Solaris 11 Express might solve? I 
will download the Solaris 11 Express LiveUSB and give it a shot.
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[zfs-discuss] SSD vs "hybrid" drive - any advice?

2011-07-21 Thread Gordon Ross
I'm looking to upgrade the disk in a high-end laptop (so called
"desktop replacement" type).  I use it for development work,
runing OpenIndiana (native) with lots of ZFS data sets.

These "hybrid" drives look kind of interesting, i.e. for about $100,
one can get:
 Seagate Momentus XT ST95005620AS 500GB 7200 RPM 2.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s
with NCQ Solid State Hybrid Drive
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148591
And then for about $400 one can get an 250GB SSD, such as:
 Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State
Drive (SSD)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443

Anyone have experience with either one?  (good or bad)

Opinions whether the lower capacity and higher cost of
the SSD is justified in terms of performance for things
like software builds, etc?

Thanks,
Gordon
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Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD vs "hybrid" drive - any advice?

2011-07-21 Thread Rocky Shek
Gordon,

If I were you, I would choose SSD. I have good experience with Intel 320
SSD.

My company use it for L2ARC with good result. And quality is good 

Rocky 

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Subject: [zfs-discuss] SSD vs "hybrid" drive - any advice?

I'm looking to upgrade the disk in a high-end laptop (so called
"desktop replacement" type).  I use it for development work,
runing OpenIndiana (native) with lots of ZFS data sets.

These "hybrid" drives look kind of interesting, i.e. for about $100,
one can get:
 Seagate Momentus XT ST95005620AS 500GB 7200 RPM 2.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s
with NCQ Solid State Hybrid Drive
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148591
And then for about $400 one can get an 250GB SSD, such as:
 Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State
Drive (SSD)
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443

Anyone have experience with either one?  (good or bad)

Opinions whether the lower capacity and higher cost of
the SSD is justified in terms of performance for things
like software builds, etc?

Thanks,
Gordon
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Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD vs "hybrid" drive - any advice?

2011-07-21 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Gordon Ross
> 
> Anyone have experience with either one?  (good or bad)
> 
> Opinions whether the lower capacity and higher cost of
> the SSD is justified in terms of performance for things
> like software builds, etc?

The hybrid has basically 4G NV cache.  The rest is regular hard drive.  It
will work well if you care about accelerating your boot time and you reboot
regularly.  But if you don't reboot regularly, and you actually have enough
ram in your system that you don't constantly fetch the same sectors over and
over...  Well the drive can only memorize what it's told to memorize.  So it
will only memorize things that your OS actually fetches over and over...
Which isn't very likely to happen except by repeat reboots.  Depends on your
behavior patterns.

They don't say anything about their algorithms, of course.  So it's totally
unclear if they use some of the SSD to buffer writes...  The hybrid might
only benefit reads under the right conditions, and it might not benefit
writes at all...  Don't really know.

My opinion:  I'm skeptical about the success of the hybrid drive
accelerating performance.  I'd like to be proven wrong.

Do you have $0.98 change for a $1 bill?

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Re: [zfs-discuss] SSD vs "hybrid" drive - any advice?

2011-07-21 Thread Brandon High
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Gordon Ross  wrote:
> And then for about $400 one can get an 250GB SSD, such as:
>  Crucial M4 CT256M4SSD2 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State
> Drive (SSD)
>  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443
>
> Anyone have experience with either one?  (good or bad)

The hybrid drive might accelerate some operations. No guarantees,
though. It's about as fast as a WD Velociraptor in some operations,
and the same as the regular Seagate 500gb in others. There is a decent
review of it at Anandtech.

The M4 is pretty decent, though the Vertex 3 and other Sandforce
2000-based drives beat it in benchmarks. Honestly though, you'll
probably be very happy with any recent SSD, eg: C300, M4, Intel 320,
Intel 510, Sandforce 1200-based (Vertex 2, Phoenix Pro, etc),
Sandforce 2200-based (Vertex 3, Corsair Force GT, Patriot Wildfire,
etc).

-B

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Re: [zfs-discuss] revisiting aclmode options

2011-07-21 Thread Paul B. Henson

On 7/19/2011 6:37 PM, Daniel Carosone wrote:


If there were an acl permission for "set legacy permission bits",
as distinct from write_acl, that could be set to "deny" at whatever
granularity you needed...


That does sound interesting; but given it would most likely require an 
update to the NFS 4 ACL spec not very probable, particularly in the 
short term...


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Re: [zfs-discuss] [illumos-Developer] revisiting aclmode options

2011-07-21 Thread Paul B. Henson

On 7/19/2011 7:10 PM, Gordon Ross wrote:


The idea:  A new "aclmode" setting called "discard", meaning that
the users don't care at all about the traditional mode bits.  A
dataset with aclmode=discard would have the chmod system call and NFS
setattr do absolutely nothing to the mode bits.


The caveat to that are the suid/sgid/sticky bits, which have no
corresponding bits in the ACL, and potentially will still need to be
manipulated. The details on that still need to be worked out :).


The mode bits would be derived from the ACL such that the mode
represents the greatest possible access that might be allowed by the
ACL, without any consideration of deny entries or group memberships.


Is this description different than how the mode bits are currently 
derived when a ZFS acl is set on an object?


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