Re: [XeTeX] Disable "mktextfm" and/or use of TFM-based fonts ?
Am Tue, 7 Jun 2022 11:44:28 +0100 schrieb Philip Taylor (Hellenic Institute): > As I /never/ want XeTeX to attempt to create a seemingly-missing TFM > file, can I configure XeTeX and/or TeXworks to inhibit this undesired > behaviour ? Perhaps by setting MKTEXTFM = 0, but I never tried if xetex honors that. But even if that work: you would still get errors from your code, so why bother? > And for that matter, can I configure XeTeX and/or TeXworks > to inhibit any attempt to use TFM-based fonts ? Do you really want that? Don't you use tfm based math fonts? -- Ulrike Fischer http://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/
Re: [XeTeX] Disable "mktextfm" and/or use of TFM-based fonts ?
On 08/06/2022 08:51, Ulrike Fischer wrote: Perhaps by setting MKTEXTFM = 0, but I never tried if xetex honors that. Yes, a great improvement thank you — D:\ XeTeX Font-error This is XeTeX, Version 3.141592653-2.6-0.94 (TeX Live 2022) (preloaded format=xetex) restricted \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./Font-error.tex [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] ! Font \fnf= not loadable: Metric (TFM) file or installed font not found. \font l.441 \font \fnf = \font \fb "Gill Sans MT" scaled 455 ? s OK, entering \scrollmode... [10] [11] [12] ) (see the transcript file for additional information) Output written on Font-error.pdf (12 pages). Transcript written on Font-error.log.
Re: [XeTeX] Disable "mktextfm" and/or use of TFM-based fonts ?
On 08/06/2022 08:51, Ulrike Fischer wrote: Am Tue, 7 Jun 2022 11:44:28 +0100 schrieb Philip Taylor (Hellenic Institute): As I /never/ want XeTeX to attempt to create a seemingly-missing TFM file, can I configure XeTeX and/or TeXworks to inhibit this undesired behaviour ? Perhaps by setting MKTEXTFM = 0, but I never tried if xetex honors that. But even if that work: you would still get errors from your code, so why bother? Thank you, I will try that. Error messages I would expeect — an attempt to create a font (or even a font metric file), I would not — typesetting should utilise existing resources, not attempt to create new ones. Or to put it another way, TeX is a typesetting engine, and should not pretend to be a poor man's "make". And for that matter, can I configure XeTeX and/or TeXworks to inhibit any attempt to use TFM-based fonts ? Do you really want that? Don't you use tfm based math fonts? Not intentionally, since I rarely if ever typeset maths. But if I /were /to need to insert a fragment of maths into a document that I would typesetting, I would like to be warned if XeTeX needed to fall back on the Computer Modern (or similar) fonts. -- /** Phil./
Re: [XeTeX] Disable "mktextfm" and/or use of TFM-based fonts ?
Am Wed, 8 Jun 2022 09:43:19 +0100 schrieb Philip Taylor (Hellenic Institute): > On 08/06/2022 08:51, Ulrike Fischer wrote: >> Am Tue, 7 Jun 2022 11:44:28 +0100 schrieb Philip Taylor (Hellenic >> Institute): >> >>> As I /never/ want XeTeX to attempt to create a seemingly-missing TFM >>> file, can I configure XeTeX and/or TeXworks to inhibit this undesired >>> behaviour ? >> Perhaps by setting MKTEXTFM = 0, but I never tried if xetex honors >> that. But even if that work: you would still get errors from your >> code, so why bother? > Thank you, I will try that. Error messages I would expeect — an attempt > to create a font (or even a font metric file), I would not — typesetting > should utilise existing resources, not attempt to create new ones. Or > to put it another way, TeX is a typesetting engine, and should not > pretend to be a poor man's "make". Sorry but I think it is one of the nice features of a modern tex system that it creates tfm or pk fonts on the fly. And if I may say: xetex is doing that internally too for your open type fonts: it is still tex and needs tfm files. Do you want to miss that feature and have to prepare the tfm files your self before using a font? >> >>> And for that matter, can I configure XeTeX and/or TeXworks >>> to inhibit any attempt to use TFM-based fonts ? >> Do you really want that? Don't you use tfm based math fonts? > > Not intentionally, since I rarely if ever typeset maths. But if I /were > /to need to insert a fragment of maths into a document that I would > typesetting, I would like to be warned if XeTeX needed to fall back on > the Computer Modern (or similar) fonts. XeTeX doesn't fallback. It uses the fonts that your format and your code tells it to use. If you prefer to use unicode math fonts, here is a receipt what you have to change in plain for this: https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/308749/2388 -- Ulrike Fischer http://www.troubleshooting-tex.de/
Re: [XeTeX] Disable "mktextfm" and/or use of TFM-based fonts ?
On 08/06/2022 09:55, Ulrike Fischer wrote: Sorry but I think it is one of the nice features of a modern tex system that it creates tfm or pk fonts on the fly. That's fine; we can agree to differ on such philosophical points. xetex is doing that internally too for your open type fonts: it is still tex and needs tfm files. Does it ? Are you absolutely certain ? Do you want to miss that feature and have to prepare the tfm files your self before using a font? It it does, then no, I am happy for it to do that, but I was unaware that it does. XeTeX doesn't fallback. It uses the fonts that your format and your code tells it to use. If you prefer to use unicode math fonts, here is a receipt what you have to change in plain for this: https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/308749/2388 By "fall back", I meant "use Computer Modern for maths if Ihave failed to declate my own maths fonts". But thank you for the recipe — much appreciated. Incidentally, I now see that I can use the following successfully, which makes it far easier to integrate the desired functionality into TeXwords — D:\ XeTeX -no-mktex=TFM \input Font-error This is XeTeX, Version 3.141592653-2.6-0.94 (TeX Live 2022) (preloaded format=xetex) restricted \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./Font-error.tex [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] ! Font \fnf= not loadable: Metric (TFM) file or installed font not found. \font l.441 \font \fnf = \font \fb "Gill Sans MT" scaled 455 ? s OK, entering \scrollmode... [10] [11] [12] ) (see the transcript file for additional information) Output written on Font-error.pdf (12 pages). Transcript written on Font-error.log. -- /** Phil./
