[Xen-devel] Intel Z270 support

2018-10-18 Thread Aaron Gray
I have two ASUS PRIME Z270-A machines based on Intel Z270 chipset and am
wondering about when support will be available for them and what I can do
to speed this up.

But I have not done anything to do with kernel work since years ago when I
read a lot of the main parts of the Linux 2.4 Kernel. Also I did code to
get into and out of protected mode before this.

Heres the datasheets that cover the chipset :-

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-1.html
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-2.html

Regards,

Aaron

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Re: [Xen-devel] Intel Z270 support

2018-10-18 Thread Aaron Gray
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 19:11, Andrew Cooper 
wrote:

> On 18/10/2018 18:57, Aaron Gray wrote:
> > I have two ASUS PRIME Z270-A machines based on Intel Z270 chipset and
> > am wondering about when support will be available for them and what I
> > can do to speed this up.
> >
> > But I have not done anything to do with kernel work since years ago
> > when I read a lot of the main parts of the Linux 2.4 Kernel. Also I
> > did code to get into and out of protected mode before this.
> >
> > Heres the datasheets that cover the chipset :-
> >
> >
> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-1.html
> >
> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-2.html
> >
>
> Xen doesn't have a list of individual support chips/systems, because
> kernels don't really work like that.  We work feature by feature, or
> device by device.
>
> You appear to have a Broadwell-era system.  Any recent Linux distro
> should work for you, including the provided Xen package.


I tried installing Xen 4.9 provided with Fedora 28 but it did not work. Can
I get support with this please ?

Aaron
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Re: [Xen-devel] Intel Z270 support

2018-10-19 Thread Aaron Gray
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 23:42, Andrew Cooper 
wrote:

> On 18/10/2018 19:45, Aaron Gray wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 19:11, Andrew Cooper 
> wrote:
>
>> On 18/10/2018 18:57, Aaron Gray wrote:
>> > I have two ASUS PRIME Z270-A machines based on Intel Z270 chipset and
>> > am wondering about when support will be available for them and what I
>> > can do to speed this up.
>> >
>> > But I have not done anything to do with kernel work since years ago
>> > when I read a lot of the main parts of the Linux 2.4 Kernel. Also I
>> > did code to get into and out of protected mode before this.
>> >
>> > Heres the datasheets that cover the chipset :-
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-1.html
>> >
>> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-2.html
>> >
>>
>> Xen doesn't have a list of individual support chips/systems, because
>> kernels don't really work like that.  We work feature by feature, or
>> device by device.
>>
>> You appear to have a Broadwell-era system.  Any recent Linux distro
>> should work for you, including the provided Xen package.
>
>
> I tried installing Xen 4.9 provided with Fedora 28 but it did not work.
> Can I get support with this please ?
>
>
> What didn't work.  What went wrong?
>
> What logs do you have from the attempt?
>
> We're not mind readers.  Noone here can divine the cause of your failure
> from nothing.
>

Sorry I will post a proper report over the weekend.

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Re: [Xen-devel] Intel Z270 support

2018-10-21 Thread Aaron Gray
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 19:58, Aaron Gray  wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 23:42, Andrew Cooper 
> wrote:
>
>> On 18/10/2018 19:45, Aaron Gray wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 19:11, Andrew Cooper 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 18/10/2018 18:57, Aaron Gray wrote:
>>> > I have two ASUS PRIME Z270-A machines based on Intel Z270 chipset and
>>> > am wondering about when support will be available for them and what I
>>> > can do to speed this up.
>>> >
>>> > But I have not done anything to do with kernel work since years ago
>>> > when I read a lot of the main parts of the Linux 2.4 Kernel. Also I
>>> > did code to get into and out of protected mode before this.
>>> >
>>> > Heres the datasheets that cover the chipset :-
>>> >
>>> >
>>> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-1.html
>>> >
>>> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-2.html
>>> >
>>>
>>> Xen doesn't have a list of individual support chips/systems, because
>>> kernels don't really work like that.  We work feature by feature, or
>>> device by device.
>>>
>>> You appear to have a Broadwell-era system.  Any recent Linux distro
>>> should work for you, including the provided Xen package.
>>
>>
>> I tried installing Xen 4.9 provided with Fedora 28 but it did not work.
>> Can I get support with this please ?
>>
>>
>> What didn't work.  What went wrong?
>>
>> What logs do you have from the attempt?
>>
>> We're not mind readers.  Noone here can divine the cause of your failure
>> from nothing.
>>
>
> Sorry I will post a proper report over the weekend.
>
>
Heres what I am getting now which is different from before with Xen 4.9 on
F28. Before it was actually booting past the [U]EFI stage. And I am not
sure why it is faultering oon this. I have turned off UEFI on the
Motherboard.

Loading Xen 4.10.2.config ...
error: file `EFI/fedora/x86_64-efi/module.mod' not found.
error: file `EFI/fedora/x86_64-efi/multiboot.mod' not found.
error: can't find command `multiboot'.
Loading Linux 4.16.3-301.fc28.x86_64 ...
error: can't find command `module'.
Loading initial ramdisk ...
error: file `EFI/fedora/x86_64-efi/module.mod' not found.
error: can't find command `module'.

Loading Xen 4.10.2.config ...
error: file `EFI/fedora/x86_64-efi/module3.mod' not found.
error: file `EFI/fedora/x86_64-efi/multiboot3.mod' not found.
error: can't find command `multiboot3'.
Loading Linux 4.16.3-301.fc28.x86_64 ...
error: can't find command `module3'.
Loading initial ramdisk ...
error: file `EFI/fedora/x86_64-efi/module3.mod' not found.
error: can't find command `module2'.

I have managed to install, boot, and run F28 in KVM'ed F28 so my hardware
is supported properly by KVM.

Many thanks in advance,

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[Xen-devel] Definitive Guide to the Xen Hypervisor

2018-10-21 Thread Aaron Gray
How relevant is David Chisnall's book *Definitive Guide to the Xen
Hypervisor* now with regards to studying Xen's source code now ?

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron
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Re: [Xen-devel] Definitive Guide to the Xen Hypervisor

2018-10-21 Thread Aaron Gray
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 22:20, Razvan Cojocaru 
wrote:

> On 10/22/18 12:03 AM, Aaron Gray wrote:
> > How relevant is David Chisnall's book *Definitive Guide to the Xen
> > Hypervisor* now with regards to studying Xen's source code now ?
>
> FWIW, I've found it largely irrelevant. It's been published more than a
> decade ago now, so that's fair enough.
>

Thanks that verifies what I thought.


> I suppose it's interesting if you'd like to see where Xen began. It's
> also the only book on Xen written for developers, so it's got that going
> for it.
>

Where is the best place to start for getting a logical unit level overview
of the source code please ?

Regards,

Aaron
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Re: [Xen-devel] Intel Z270 support

2018-10-22 Thread Aaron Gray
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 at 21:36, Aaron Gray  wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 19:58, Aaron Gray 
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 23:42, Andrew Cooper 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 18/10/2018 19:45, Aaron Gray wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 19:11, Andrew Cooper 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18/10/2018 18:57, Aaron Gray wrote:
>>>> > I have two ASUS PRIME Z270-A machines based on Intel Z270 chipset and
>>>> > am wondering about when support will be available for them and what I
>>>> > can do to speed this up.
>>>> >
>>>> > But I have not done anything to do with kernel work since years ago
>>>> > when I read a lot of the main parts of the Linux 2.4 Kernel. Also I
>>>> > did code to get into and out of protected mode before this.
>>>> >
>>>> > Heres the datasheets that cover the chipset :-
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-1.html
>>>> >
>>>> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-2.html
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Xen doesn't have a list of individual support chips/systems, because
>>>> kernels don't really work like that.  We work feature by feature, or
>>>> device by device.
>>>>
>>>> You appear to have a Broadwell-era system.  Any recent Linux distro
>>>> should work for you, including the provided Xen package.
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried installing Xen 4.9 provided with Fedora 28 but it did not work.
>>> Can I get support with this please ?
>>>
>>>
>>> What didn't work.  What went wrong?
>>>
>>> What logs do you have from the attempt?
>>>
>>> We're not mind readers.  Noone here can divine the cause of your failure
>>> from nothing.
>>>
>>
>> Sorry I will post a proper report over the weekend.
>>
>>
> Heres what I am getting now which is different from before with Xen 4.9 on
> F28. Before it was actually booting past the [U]EFI stage. And I am not
> sure why it is faultering oon this. I have turned off UEFI on the
> Motherboard.
>
> Loading Xen 4.10.2.config ...
> error: file `EFI/fedora/x86_64-efi/module.mod' not found.
> error: file `EFI/fedora/x86_64-efi/multiboot.mod' not found.
> error: can't find command `multiboot'.
> Loading Linux 4.16.3-301.fc28.x86_64 ...
> error: can't find command `module'.
> Loading initial ramdisk ...
> error: file `EFI/fedora/x86_64-efi/module.mod' not found.
> error: can't find command `module'.
>
> Loading Xen 4.10.2.config ...
> error: file `EFI/fedora/x86_64-efi/module3.mod' not found.
> error: file `EFI/fedora/x86_64-efi/multiboot3.mod' not found.
> error: can't find command `multiboot3'.
> Loading Linux 4.16.3-301.fc28.x86_64 ...
> error: can't find command `module3'.
> Loading initial ramdisk ...
> error: file `EFI/fedora/x86_64-efi/module3.mod' not found.
> error: can't find command `module2'.
>

Sorry this looks like a Fedora issue. I will take this over to the Fedora
mailing list, but if anyone is Fedora based I would appreciate help.

Regards,

Aaron
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Re: [Xen-devel] [Xen-users] Intel Z270 support

2018-10-24 Thread Aaron Gray
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 14:25, Eric Duncan  wrote:

>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 2:03 PM Aaron Gray wrote:
>
>> I have two ASUS PRIME Z270-A machines based on Intel Z270 chipset and am
>> wondering about when support will be available for them and what I can do
>> to speed this up.
>>
>> But I have not done anything to do with kernel work since years ago when
>> I read a lot of the main parts of the Linux 2.4 Kernel. Also I did code to
>> get into and out of protected mode before this.
>>
>> Heres the datasheets that cover the chipset :-
>>
>>
>> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-1.html
>>
>> https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/200-series-chipset-pch-datasheet-vol-2.html
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>
> It's your Linux kernel that needs to support your hardware, not Xen itself.
>
> I personally run Xen with an Arch Linux dom0 specifically for this purpose
> of getting the latest hardware support across my devices.  For example, I
> am on kernel 4.18.10 at this moment.  The AUR also keeps a fairly recent
> version of Xen, currently 4.11.
>

That sounds an interesting direction I would try Arch if I was not trying
to get Xen Fedora rawhide sussed as I need this step to get my machine
architecture working with Qubes.

F29 Beta has 4.11.0

At present I have one instillation on F29 that worked straight away with :-

sudo yum groupinstall 'Virtualization'
sudo yum install xen

And another were I did a yum update first and Xen it does not function with
the missing module.mod and multiboot.mod issue that was found in F27 and
F28.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1486002#c36

I just need to do the diff's on /boot and the rpm's tomorrow to see what if
I can find the issue.

Regards,

Aaron






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