[WiX-users] How implement installer to update single file ? Upgrade? Patch?

2014-04-25 Thread Edward Sutton
Can this be done as an upgrade, replacing a single DLL file without removing 
the previous install?

Or is what I am trying to do better implemented as a patch?  I do not have 
source code for original installer - only the MSI.

Background
---
This is a C++ application using 2008 compilers.

I believe the application's MSI installer was built using Wise Installer.   It 
was built by a contractor.  My company has lost or never had the installer 
source code.

Thanks in advance for any tips or direction,

-Ed


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Re: [WiX-users] How implement installer to update single file ? Upgrade? Patch?

2014-04-28 Thread Edward Sutton


-Original Message-
From: Phill Hogland [mailto:phogl...@rimage.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 11:30 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How implement installer to update single file ? 
Upgrade? Patch?

If you have the old MSI, there are a couple of options (but I am no expert).

If the old mis supports doing a /a layout then you can extract the files of the 
old msi to two folder tress, original and changed, change the files in the 
'changed' folder tree, and use torch to create a transform.

Or you can use orca in the old msi to find out which component the files is 
associated.  Then create a new msi with only all of the files (resources) of 
that component, using the same component GUID, and run that msi to update the 
file.  But the component must be identical to the component in the original 
package with regard to the guid, target path, and all resources included in 
that component.

I am just learning and experimenting with a similar situation, so others can 
provide more expert advice.



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Re: [WiX-users] How implement installer to update single file ? Upgrade? Patch?

2014-04-28 Thread Edward Sutton
Thank you Phil.

I am trying the "Using Patch Creation Properties" approach.  I made two 
subfolders, 3.8.1 contained only the original DLL I wished to replace, and 
3.8.2 the updated DLL.
http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/patching/patch_building.html

Should both UpgradeCode and Product ID match the original 3.81 version seen in 
Orca?  

When both match the original 3.8.1 MSI the patch launches the 3.8.1 
repair/remove installer.

msiexec.exe /p patch\patch.msp /l*vx patch.log

When only UpgradeCode matches the Windows Installer displays a dialog with 
message:

"The upgrade patch cannot be installed" because "program to be upgraded may be 
missing".


===Orca Properties Displayed With Original 3.8.1 MSI===
Table: Property
 Manufacturer   The Charles Machine Works, Inc.
 ProductCode{C80FB86A-42A1-4FB8-B9B2-30DCFF138E3D}
 ProductNameTMS Plus
 ProductVersion 3.8.1
 UpgradeCode{59BF7F9E-FF46-45D5-8050-F1477466A661}

Table: File
 _ACE1F72023AD44F5829BCA1329E212FD  C__ACE1F72023AD44F5829BCA1329E212FD 
REGTMS.DLL|Regtms.dll   40960   1.0.0.2 1033514 80

Table: Component
 C__ACE1F72023AD44F5829BCA1329E212FD{CFB9D5A8-65CC-E091-DC21-4F4653B149D6}  
TARGETDIR   0   _ACE1F72023AD44F5829BCA1329E212FD

Table: FeatureComponents
 DefaultFeature C__ACE1F72023AD44F5829BCA1329E212FD

Table: Feature
 DefaultFeature 2   1   TARGETDIR   0
 
Table: Directory
 TARGETDIR  SourceDir

Table: CreateFolder
 TARGETDIR  C__A0F5E19C01BE425EB5FD3CE9A5BBB86D

Table: CustomAction
 DIRCA_TARGETDIR307 TARGETDIR   [ProgramFilesFolder]TMSPlus


*
* File: product.wxs
*

http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi";>
































*
* File: Patch.wxs
*

http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi";>




http://www.ditchwitch.com/";
Classification="Update"
DisplayName="TMS Plus Patch Sample"/>













Any direction is much appreciated,

-Ed


-Original Message-
From: Phill Hogland [mailto:phogl...@rimage.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 11:30 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How implement installer to update single file ? 
Upgrade? Patch?

If you have the old MSI, there are a couple of options (but I am no expert).

If the old mis supports doing a /a layout then you can extract the files of the 
old msi to two folder tress, original and changed, change the files in the 
'changed' folder tree, and use torch to create a transform.

Or you can use orca in the old msi to find out which component the files is 
associated.  Then create a new msi with only all of the files (resources) of 
that component, using the same component GUID, and run that msi to update the 
file.  But the component must be identical to the component in the original 
package with regard to the guid, target path, and all resources included in 
that component.

I am just learning and experimenting with a similar situation, so others can 
provide more expert advice.



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Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: How implement installer to update single file ? Upgrade? Patch?

2014-04-28 Thread Edward Sutton
Are there others experienced in patching/updating that can share an example or 
offer advice?  

I followed the " Using Patch Creation Properties" tutorial which installs an 
updated sample.txt file.  This worked well. 

http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/patching/patch_building.html

Next I copied the working tutorial and started to modify it to do same for 
updating a DLL instead of the sample.txt file.  I have the original 3.8.1 
version of the MSI which installs an executable and a DLL.  It is only the DLL 
that I need to replace and not the executable.  I suspect my problem may not be 
setting up matches of the original ids, guids, or references that Orca displays 
in the original 3.8.1 MSI.

1 - I created a new /3.8.1/product.msi containing the original DLL extracted 
from the original 3.8.1 version on the MSI.  In the product.wxs file I set 
ProductId and UpgradeCode to match original MSI.
2 - I created a second /3.8.2/product.msi containing the updated DLL.   The 
executable (*.exe) was not changed, only the DLL, so exe was not included. 
3 - The patch.msp was created from the patch.wxs from the /3.8.1/product.msi 
and /3.8.2/product.msi  files.  

My patch has no GUI.  When I set my product.wxs ProductId and UpgradeCode to 
match the original 3.8.1 MSI it launching the patch results in launching of the 
original installer GUI in repair/remove mode.  I tried to do a repair.  I 
confirmed this did *not* update the DLL.  I think this is expected when 
launching original installer.  If the patch install would have worked, I 
expected to see UAC request elevation as it does with the tutorial that 
installs the pdated sample.txt file.

msiexec.exe /p patch\patch.msp /l*vx patch.log

Phil it sounds like you are picking this up pretty quickly - I am impressed.  I 
have always struggled with MSI and find it complex.  I usually use deployment 
tools included with Visual Studio, crippled InstallShield versions, Wise 
Installer, etc.  I am trying to take better notes this time as I always have to 
relearn what I figured out years past.  It would like to figure out WiX and 
start using it with all new projects I have coming up.  It sounds like WiX has 
been around since 2007 and is not likely to disappear.

I know I am missing something.  Probably multiple things.  Any suggestions or 
patch examples are welcome.  

-Ed

-Original Message-
From: Phill Hogland [mailto:phogl...@rimage.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:45 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: How implement installer to update single file ? 
Upgrade? Patch?

While I have not used that process, my understanding is that you are creating a 
'small update' patch for the original version of the two MSI files (used in 
that process).  (The updated version of the two MSI files is not distributed.  
Only the original MSI and the patch which targets only that
original MSI.)   So in the case where the original MSI is installed and you
apply the patch it sounds like it worked.  In the case were you tried to apply 
the patch using a different ProductCode it makes sense that the error message 
indicated that it could not find the ProductCode indicated on the installed 
system, as the original MSI did not use that code.

I do not have much experience in this area as I am just working through some of 
these issues myself.  So there may be others who can provide better guidance.



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Re: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: How implement installer to update single file ? Upgrade? Patch?

2014-05-01 Thread Edward Sutton
Question: Can Orca be used to create a transform or patch?  I want to update a 
single DLL.  Perhaps this might be an simpler work-around than using Wix?

I have tried both approaches "Using Patch Creation Properties" and "Using 
Purely WiX" mentioned on:

http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/patching/

They work fine until I try to modify each example  to replace the DLL in 
question.  Even then they work up to the point where  try to match the original 
UpgradeCode, ProductId and version codes.  Then I get Windows Installer errors 
saying patch package could not be opened and verify it is a valid Windows 
installer patch.

Thanks in advance for any tips or suggestions,

-Ed

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 2:41 PM
To: 'General discussion about the WiX toolset.'
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: How implement installer to update single 
file ? Upgrade? Patch?

Are there others experienced in patching/updating that can share an example or 
offer advice?  

I followed the " Using Patch Creation Properties" tutorial which installs an 
updated sample.txt file.  This worked well. 

http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/patching/patch_building.html

Next I copied the working tutorial and started to modify it to do same for 
updating a DLL instead of the sample.txt file.  I have the original 3.8.1 
version of the MSI which installs an executable and a DLL.  It is only the DLL 
that I need to replace and not the executable.  I suspect my problem may not be 
setting up matches of the original ids, guids, or references that Orca displays 
in the original 3.8.1 MSI.

1 - I created a new /3.8.1/product.msi containing the original DLL extracted 
from the original 3.8.1 version on the MSI.  In the product.wxs file I set 
ProductId and UpgradeCode to match original MSI.
2 - I created a second /3.8.2/product.msi containing the updated DLL.   The 
executable (*.exe) was not changed, only the DLL, so exe was not included. 
3 - The patch.msp was created from the patch.wxs from the /3.8.1/product.msi 
and /3.8.2/product.msi  files.  

My patch has no GUI.  When I set my product.wxs ProductId and UpgradeCode to 
match the original 3.8.1 MSI it launching the patch results in launching of the 
original installer GUI in repair/remove mode.  I tried to do a repair.  I 
confirmed this did *not* update the DLL.  I think this is expected when 
launching original installer.  If the patch install would have worked, I 
expected to see UAC request elevation as it does with the tutorial that 
installs the pdated sample.txt file.

msiexec.exe /p patch\patch.msp /l*vx patch.log

Phil it sounds like you are picking this up pretty quickly - I am impressed.  I 
have always struggled with MSI and find it complex.  I usually use deployment 
tools included with Visual Studio, crippled InstallShield versions, Wise 
Installer, etc.  I am trying to take better notes this time as I always have to 
relearn what I figured out years past.  It would like to figure out WiX and 
start using it with all new projects I have coming up.  It sounds like WiX has 
been around since 2007 and is not likely to disappear.

I know I am missing something.  Probably multiple things.  Any suggestions or 
patch examples are welcome.  

-Ed

-Original Message-
From: Phill Hogland [mailto:phogl...@rimage.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:45 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] [SPAM] Re: How implement installer to update single file ? 
Upgrade? Patch?

While I have not used that process, my understanding is that you are creating a 
'small update' patch for the original version of the two MSI files (used in 
that process).  (The updated version of the two MSI files is not distributed.  
Only the original MSI and the patch which targets only that
original MSI.)   So in the case where the original MSI is installed and you
apply the patch it sounds like it worked.  In the case were you tried to apply 
the patch using a different ProductCode it makes sense that the error message 
indicated that it could not find the ProductCode indicated on the installed 
system, as the original MSI did not use that code.

I do not have much experience in this area as I am just working through some of 
these issues myself.  So there may be others who can provide better guidance.



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[WiX-users] How to not launch install if previous version not found?

2014-05-02 Thread Edward Sutton
I created an upgrade containing an updated DLL that replaces a previous version.

How can I make the install require a previous version has been installed?  Is 
that not the purpose of ?  I cannot get it to work as expected.  The 
upgrade is happy to launch without the previous version installed.

Here is what I did:

  1.  Opened version 1.2.3 of the original MSI in WixEdit
  2.  Replaced a single DLL with an updated DLL
  3.  Updated version to 1.2.4
  4.  Updated Product Id
  5.  UpgradeCode did * not * changed
  6.  Added  element after the last  element








Is OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED a pre-defined thing or just used as a comment?  
There is no matching Property.

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Re: [WiX-users] How to not launch install if previous version not found?

2014-05-02 Thread Edward Sutton
(Sorry for re-post, the example Minimum and Maximum did not match my 
description.)

I created an upgrade containing an updated DLL that replaces a previous version.

How can I make the install require a previous version to be installed?  Is that 
not the purpose of ?  I cannot get it to work as expected.  The 
upgrade is happy to launch without the previous version installed.

Here is what I did:

  1.  Opened version 1.2.3 of the original MSI in WixEdit
  2.  Replaced a single DLL with an updated DLL
  3.  Updated version to 1.2.4
  4.  Updated Product Id
  5.  UpgradeCode did * not * changed
  6.  Added  element after the last  element








Is OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED a pre-defined thing or just used as a comment?  I 
have no matching Property named "OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED".

Thanks,

-Ed


From: Edward Sutton
Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 1:30 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: How to not launch install if previous version not found?

I created an upgrade containing an updated DLL that replaces a previous version.

How can I make the install require a previous version has been installed?  Is 
that not the purpose of ?  I cannot get it to work as expected.  The 
upgrade is happy to launch without the previous version installed.

Here is what I did:

  1.  Opened version 1.2.3 of the original MSI in WixEdit
  2.  Replaced a single DLL with an updated DLL
  3.  Updated version to 1.2.4
  4.  Updated Product Id
  5.  UpgradeCode did * not * changed
  6.  Added  element after the last  element








Is OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED a pre-defined thing or just used as a comment?  
There is no matching Property.

-Ed






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Re: [WiX-users] How to not launch install if previous version not found?

2014-05-06 Thread Edward Sutton
Hi Nick,

Thank you for your reply.  I think that is a better fit.  I have also thought 
IExpress and VBScript might be a simpler approach.

I admit what I am doing is unusual.  I have an old pre-Vista legacy app that 
used HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE to store product key registration information.  Under 
Vista and later this gets "virtualized" and stored under HKEY_CURRENT_USER.  
This causes each new user that logs on to call in with a broken license 
complaint.  My initial thought was the easiest solution for this small set of 
customers was to install in new DLL that basically ignores the registry and 
returns happy.  

After struggling with the installer I think time would have been better spent 
to re-write the DLL to read/write from the correct ALLUSERSPROFILE ProgramData 
location.

-Ed


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Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2014 8:59 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How to not launch install if previous version not 
found?

Upgrades are used to find and replace previously installed files. But if 
there's nothing to replace, there's nothing to say the install can't continue 
as a fresh install. If you need to not run the installer at all if a previous 
install isn't there then try using a launch condition
(http://wixtoolset.org/documentation/manual/v3/xsd/wix/launchconditions.html)



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