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Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade Problem with WIX installer

2008-04-08 Thread amitchopra


But if we are installing it from msi , it is saying that "Product is already
Installed"

Amit



Wilson, Phil wrote:
> 
> If you're doing an upgrade you don't use that command line. Just run the
> MSI as if it is a clean install (which it is, the upgrade makes it remove
> older versions as well).
> 
> Phil Wilson
> 
> 
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> 
> Yes, we have changed the product upgrade code. The command that we have
> used
> is:
> 
> msiexec /i SampleUpgrade2.msi REINSTALL=ALL REINSTALLMODE=vomus ”
> 
> Thanks,
> Amit
> 
> 
> 
> Sebastian Brand-2 wrote:
>>
>> Did you change the product code in the upgrade? What's the command
>> prompt's parameters?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Sebastian Brand
>>
>> Instyler Software - http://www.instyler.com
>>
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2008, at 12:36 , amitchopra wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have created an installer using WIX. When i am upgrading it using
>>> command
>>> prompt, it is upgraing my existing version. But when i am upgrading
>>> it by
>>> clicking it on the msi, it is giving error : "The version is already
>>> installed".
>>>
>>> Please let me know how to address this problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks in Advance,
>>>
>>> Amit
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Re: [WiX-users] How do I preserve a configuration file on a majorupgrade?

2008-04-08 Thread Thomas Terhaar

 I was struggling with the same issue and because I'm fairly new to WIX
and MSI in general I was not able to find a 'clean' Solution.

What I have so far is the following, I consider this a 'Workaround' :

 





  

  





 













 





   NOT (OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED = "")

  NOT (OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED = "")

  NOT (OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED = "")

  NOT (OLDERVERSIONBEINGUPGRADED =
"")



 

 

This basically copies the File 'MyApp.exe.config' to 'config.bak' before
the old Version is removed and after the new Version is installed, the
File is moved back to it's original Filename (thus the .bak File is
removed)

 

This works fairly well but I'm still wondering if there's a more
intuitive and cleaner approach to keep configuration settings when
performing a major upgrade ?

(No, I don't want to use the Registry)

 

Btw, I'm using WIX 3.0.3815.0

 

 

Regards,

Thomas

 

 

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Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do I preserve a configuration file on a
majorupgrade?

 

That doesn't work. A component's condition applies to installation. So
once a component is installed, you can't conditionally uninstall it when
you remove the entire application, which happens during the major
upgrade. Then you can choose not to re-install the component on a
condition, but the configuration files will be removed by then.

 

As Markus Kuehni wrote in his previous post, MSI keeps doing the "right
thing", which is to keep track of files and never leave anything behind.
I think an extended file copy/move/delete would be a nice and simple WIX
extension invoking the custom action and one could specify a condition
on that.

 

cheers

-dB.

 

From: Bob Arnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 1:19 PM
To: dB.
Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] How do I preserve a configuration file on a
major upgrade?

 

dB. wrote: 

I tried, but using FileId or putting FileCopy under a File will delete
my file on uninstall and not using FileId silently did absolutely
nothing and didn't show anything in the log. Basically I couldn't get it
to work. Maybe a bug?


Hmm...Maybe another component with the right condition? 



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[WiX-users] Update Problems with versioned files (oxc)

2008-04-08 Thread Michael Musenbrock

Hi there!

Msi do not update my binaries from Visual Studio.
(Especially one ocx and one exe file)
Even if the file has changed in the update, but the internal
version number of this file hasn't been updated, it is ignored,
is there a way to preserve this and get msi to updated my files?
If the internal version from the executable has been changed,
it works lika a charm.

The package from wich it should be upgraded, has special
parameters in its 'File'-Section. (no checksum, or so).

Hopefully someone can give me good news and a hint for that.

Michael

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Re: [WiX-users] The Visual Studio 2005 BootStrapper - almost there?

2008-04-08 Thread RAYMENT Tim

Our solution is a hybrid between Installshield and WiX.  We create a
basic project in Installshield and specify all the prerequisites +
supported languages.  This gives us the bootstrapper plus an
Installshield msi & localized transform files (mst).

We replace these msi and mst files with the ones that our CI server
builds via WiX.

 

The bootstrapper part only needs updating occasionally so we're happy to
author it manually, whereas the WiX msi gets built automatically every
day.

 

Kind regards,

 

Tim

 



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I've been playing with the Visual Studio bootstrapper and I am a little
closer to what I want, but I am very disappointed with the result. 

 

This thing produces something really not pretty, or should I say ugly. I
need to hold the user's hand through the deployment process and I also
need something that can run automated if I want it to. I need to be able
to put pretty pictures. It sounds stupid, but this looks totally
unprofessional. My model is the SQL 2005 installer, if you used its
technology you probably know that this is nothing like that. I also
looked at some commercial software, but none allow me to build a
bootstrapper without using them to build an MSI as well.

 

I know there has been discussions on the wix lists about bootstrappers.
I couldn't find anything conclusive on that...

 

Ideas?

 

Thx

dB.

 

 

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Re: [WiX-users] Update Problems with versioned files (oxc)

2008-04-08 Thread Sebastian Brand


Can you post the relevant code from your .wxs file please?

Best regards,
Sebastian Brand

Instyler Software - http://www.instyler.com


On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:27 , Michael Musenbrock wrote:

Hi there!

Msi do not update my binaries from Visual Studio.
(Especially one ocx and one exe file)
Even if the file has changed in the update, but the internal
version number of this file hasn't been updated, it is ignored,
is there a way to preserve this and get msi to updated my files?
If the internal version from the executable has been changed,
it works lika a charm.

The package from wich it should be upgraded, has special
parameters in its 'File'-Section. (no checksum, or so).

Hopefully someone can give me good news and a hint for that.

Michael

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[WiX-users] Getting a version number on the MSI file

2008-04-08 Thread Richard Amos

What does the Version attribute in the Product tag do? I have a ,NET (3.5) app 
that I'm creating an installer for. When the app is installed, it has the 
version number (obtained by right clicking on the file in Explorer) I set using 
VS2008 (which is fine - that's what I want). However, there is *no* version 
info attached to the MSI file - even though I set a Version attribute in the 
Product tag of the WXS file.

So, can I attach a version number to the MSI file and, if so, how do I do it?

I'm using the latest version of WiX (the weekly/daily release one).

   
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Re: [WiX-users] Is there a way to invoke the wix preprocessor alone?

2008-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson


dB. wrote:


What I want is given a .wixproj, produce a single XML that has all the 
things that can be resolved, such as properties and includes, ... 
resolved to their values, fragments merged, etc.




That requires running through the preprocessor, compiler, linker, and 
most of the binder. Nothing else resolves fragments and bind-time variables.


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Re: [WiX-users] Shortcut removal and ICE38 silliness

2008-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson

SteveLoof wrote:
> I am relatively new to the world of WIX and am coming from using WISE for
> Windows. In our Wise install we have a number of shortcuts for various bits
> of our product and in varying locations (DesktopFolder, Quicklaunch (which I
> haven't started wrestling with yet) and ProgramMenu). These are turned on or
> off by the value given to the property associated with checkboxes for each.
> As in Wise creating a shortcut is easy, it is removing the shortcut if it is
> unwanted (the checkbox is unticked). In Wise we used a custom action to run
> a del command from the command line in a Wise Script.
>   

 Just use the checkbox properties as the conditions of the 
components for each checkbox. That way they're only installed if the 
checkboxes are checked and there's no cleanup to worry about.

> Also ICE38. I have read a bit about this and the reasons for it. We are
> running no advertised shortcuts and don't expect self repair to necessarily
> be available (we have a C++ script to look at the HKLM registry settings
> (which we write as part of the install) and set up a new users environment
> accordingly. I have to add not one but 2 useless registry keys, one to
> create the shortcut and the other on the RemoveFile component (even if that
> isn't the way to remove the shortcut I may need that functionality
> elsewhere). Nobody seems to think this is a good test for WI to be enforcing
> (for Vista certification need 0 ICE errors (Microsoft Office has plenty of
> ICE errors)). Any idea if Microsoft are planning to get rid of it?
>   

It's easy enough to avoid the ICE38 warning. See 
http://robmensching.com/blog/archive/2007/04/27.aspx.

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Re: [WiX-users] Getting a version number on the MSI file

2008-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson

Richard Amos wrote:
> What does the Version attribute in the Product tag do? I have a ,NET 
> (3.5) app that I'm creating an installer for. When the app is 
> installed, it has the version number (obtained by right clicking on 
> the file in Explorer) I set using VS2008 (which is fine - that's what 
> I want). However, there is *no* version info attached to the MSI file 
> - even though I set a Version attribute in the Product tag of the WXS 
> file.

It's there, just not exposed via Explorer. When you install it, it's 
visible from Add Remove Programs (Programs and Features in Vista).

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Re: [WiX-users] The Visual Studio 2005 BootStrapper - almost there?

2008-04-08 Thread fgc

Due to the lack of a better solution we currently use the VS2005 bootstrapper
together with our WiX projects. Basically we have one solution for every
installer. That solution has two projects:

1. A VS2005 deployment project that creates the bootstrapper.
2. A wixproj project that builds our WiX installer

In the deployment project we specify what shall be installed by the
bootstrapper. Because this project creates a msi file that we don't use we
build that project first. The msi file is then overwritten by the output of
the wixproj i.e. the productive msi. This all might seem a bit strange but
at least we are able to full automatically build the installer together with
the corresponding setup.exe.

Basically the VS2005 bootstrapper has two BIG downsides:

First: It assumes that you always want to deploy prerequisite msi in quiet
mode. You simply cannot change that. I have no clue why this flag has been
included by default and I think this is a very questionable design choice.
In general the bootstrapper is not customizable at all (no custom icon for
the setup.exe, etc.)
So far our prerequisite msi are wrapped by an exe file. This way they can be
installed with full UI instead of quiet.

Second: It does not accept all msiexec command line arguments as described
in
http://blogs.msdn.com/mwade/archive/2007/11/01/kicking-back-with-motley-crue-sippin-my-lowenbrau.aspx

What I actually like is the xml input. It is very easy to create custom
bootstrapper packages by defining two xml files.

I hope the Visual Studio bootstrapper is improved in the future. The
concepts behind it work, but it should be more customizable in case of the
UI / icon. And of course quiet mode shall not be default.

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Re: [WiX-users] The Visual Studio 2005 BootStrapper - almost there?

2008-04-08 Thread dB.

Good. This is enough for me, thank you. It's saying that I shouldn't
invest into bootstrapper technology too heavily myself and take
acceptable vs. perfect solutions.

From: Bob Arnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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there?

dB. wrote: 

I know there has been discussions on the wix lists about bootstrappers.
I couldn't find anything conclusive on that...

In the works, no estimates. The goal is to provide extensibility
points for just about everything, including UI, so you can easily swap
out with whatever look and feel you want.

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Re: [WiX-users] Update Problems with versioned files (oxc)

2008-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson

Michael Musenbrock wrote:
> Even if the file has changed in the update, but the internal
> version number of this file hasn't been updated, it is ignored,
>   

That's by design. If a file has versioninfo, MSI trusts it. See 
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368599(VS.85).aspx.

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[WiX-users] Reverse engineered VS2003 MSI

2008-04-08 Thread Christopher Butcher

Hi guys

 

I've run DARK on a VS2003 MSI for a Web Service.

 

Using the WXS generated I've built a new MSI using CANDLE and LIGHT.

 

On first attempt it didn't work. 

 

I discovered that it would work when I removed the following three lines
and then massaged the InstallExecutionSequence to cope with their
disappearance.

 







 

Build the MSI - it installs ok.

 

However...

 

It does not set the default document for the web application.

 

The custom table entry appears to be correct;

 



  

  

  

  







  





...





...





..





...



 

But it just won't set.

 

I could understand how the removal of the 3 custom actions above might
be causing this. But to be honest, unless I remove them, the MSI won't
run successfully.

 

I've read lots of mini-guides explaining to use WebSite, WebVirtualDir
and WebApplication. But they are all for WXS scripts started from
scratch. I'm trying to modify this VS2003 MSI so that I can preserve the
basic UI it already has in place.

 

Does anyone else have any experience of building customised WIX scripts
based on WXS extracted by DARK from VS2003 MSI's?

 

Krs

Chris

 


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Re: [WiX-users] The Visual Studio 2005 BootStrapper - almost there?

2008-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson


dB. wrote:


I know there has been discussions on the wix lists about 
bootstrappers. I couldn't find anything conclusive on that...




In the works, no estimates. The goal is to provide extensibility 
points for just about everything, including UI, so you can easily swap 
out with whatever look and feel you want.


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Re: [WiX-users] two different applications using shared folders

2008-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson


Michal Peled wrote:


I want to create a situation where one application removal doesn't 
remove the common folders/files the other application is using. I 
would be happy to do it as clean and simple as possible (no CA and no 
getting smart).


Is there such a way of doing that?

If I give the shared components the same GUID in both installations, 
would that result in the behavior I'm looking for?




Yes. The easiest way to do so is to put the shared stuff in fragments 
and reference those fragments in your different apps.


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Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade Problem with WIX installer

2008-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson

amitchopra wrote:
> But if we are installing it from msi , it is saying that "Product is already
> Installed"
>   

That means you haven't changed the product code. See 
http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/lesson4.php.

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Re: [WiX-users] The Visual Studio 2005 BootStrapper - almost there?

2008-04-08 Thread RAYMENT Tim

We use CruiseControl.Net as our CI Server and author the build script in
MSBuild using the build tasks that ship with WiX to invoke candle and
light to create our msi and mst files.

We then copy these files and the Installshield bootstrapper files to a
common location.

We're building a disk image for a CD so we don't package as a single
exe.  Perhaps someone else can suggest how to bundle loose files into a
self extracting exe?

 

Kind regards,

 

Tim

 



From: dB. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 April 2008 13:24
To: RAYMENT Tim
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] The Visual Studio 2005 BootStrapper - almost
there?

 

Thanks Tim,

 

I'm going to check this out especially since we're migrating out of
InstallShield and have all the licenses and tools. Would you share some
more detail about the build process? How do you swap the MSI to package
this in a single executable?

 

Thx

dB.

 

From: RAYMENT Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:09 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: dB.
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] The Visual Studio 2005 BootStrapper - almost
there?

 

Our solution is a hybrid between Installshield and WiX.  We create a
basic project in Installshield and specify all the prerequisites +
supported languages.  This gives us the bootstrapper plus an
Installshield msi & localized transform files (mst).

We replace these msi and mst files with the ones that our CI server
builds via WiX.

 

The bootstrapper part only needs updating occasionally so we're happy to
author it manually, whereas the WiX msi gets built automatically every
day.

 

Kind regards,

 

Tim

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dB.
Sent: 08 April 2008 00:32
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] The Visual Studio 2005 BootStrapper - almost there?

 

I've been playing with the Visual Studio bootstrapper and I am a little
closer to what I want, but I am very disappointed with the result. 

 

This thing produces something really not pretty, or should I say ugly. I
need to hold the user's hand through the deployment process and I also
need something that can run automated if I want it to. I need to be able
to put pretty pictures. It sounds stupid, but this looks totally
unprofessional. My model is the SQL 2005 installer, if you used its
technology you probably know that this is nothing like that. I also
looked at some commercial software, but none allow me to build a
bootstrapper without using them to build an MSI as well.

 

I know there has been discussions on the wix lists about bootstrappers.
I couldn't find anything conclusive on that...

 

Ideas?

 

Thx

dB.

 

 

-dB.

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Re: [WiX-users] CAQuietExec: Error 0x80070002: Command failed to execute.

2008-04-08 Thread Robert O'Brien

Tried this again using xcopy instead of robocopy for the second test and still 
failing in both CAQuietExec cases even though running them on the target system 
after install completes works just fine.   I've also noted that if I just issue 
the commands w/o any parameters then the CAQuietExec action succeeds w/o 
errors.   So it would appear how I'm specifying parameters for the command is 
what is causing issues.










Property(S): QtExecCmdLineDetails = "C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe" /c copy /y 
"D:\My Service Deliverable\ReadMe.txt" "d:\temp\My Service Deliverable.txt"
Property(S): QtExecCmdLineDetails1 = "C:\WINDOWS\system32\xcopy.exe" /i /y 
"D:\My Service Deliverable\ReadMe.txt" "d:\temp"

From: Robert O'Brien
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 8:40 AM
To: 'wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net'
Subject: CAQuietExec: Error 0x80070002: Command failed to execute.

Any insights as to what I'm doing wrong in declaring my QtExecCmdLine used by 
my two CAQuietExec in the source excerpts below?When I review the log file 
for the property values where I store a copy of the runtime generated 
QtExecCmdLine values I see what I was expecting and I can execute these same 
commands on the target host after install completes and they work as expected..









Property(S): QtExecCmdLineDetails = "C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe" /c copy /y 
"D:\My Service Deliverable\ReadMe.txt" "d:\temp\My Service Deliverable.txt"
Property(S): QtExecCmdLineDetails1 = " C:\WINDOWS\system32\robocopy.exe" "D:\My 
Service Deliverable\" "d:\temp" ReadMe.txt /z





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[WiX-users] CAQuietExec: Error 0x80070002: Command failed to execute.

2008-04-08 Thread Robert O'Brien

Any insights as to what I'm doing wrong in declaring my QtExecCmdLine used by 
my two CAQuietExec in the source excerpts below?When I review the log file 
for the property values where I store a copy of the runtime generated 
QtExecCmdLine values I see what I was expecting and I can execute these same 
commands on the target host after install completes and they work as expected..








Asdf

Property(S): QtExecCmdLineDetails = "C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe" /c copy /y 
"D:\My Service Deliverable\ReadMe.txt" "d:\temp\My Service Deliverable.txt"
Property(S): QtExecCmdLineDetails1 = "robocopy" "D:\My Service Deliverable\" 
"d:\temp" ReadMe.txt /z




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Re: [WiX-users] How do I preserve a configuration file on a major upgrade?

2008-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson


dB. wrote:


That doesn't work. A component's condition applies to installation. So 
once a component is installed, you can't conditionally uninstall it 
when you remove the entire application, which happens during the major 
upgrade.




Yeah, sorry, I wasn't keeping that in mind. That said, the different 
scheduling options for RemoveExistingProducts would produce different 
results. After InstallFinalize, for example, the component wouldn't 
necessarily be uninstalled.


As Markus Kuehni wrote in his previous post, MSI keeps doing the 
"right thing", which is to keep track of files and never leave 
anything behind. I think an extended file copy/move/delete would be a 
nice and simple WIX extension invoking the custom action and one could 
specify a condition on that.




I have a rough design for a table-driven custom action that would 
persist files and/or registry data to a temporary file from the upgraded 
package then restore it during the installation of the upgrade package. 
But I haven't needed it, so it's fallen lower on my priority list.


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Re: [WiX-users] CAQuietExec: Error 0x80070002: Command failed to execute.

2008-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson


Robert O'Brien wrote:


Tried this again using xcopy instead of robocopy for the second test 
and still failing in both CAQuietExec cases even though running them 
on the target system after install completes works just fine.   I've 
also noted that if I just issue the commands w/o any parameters then 
the CAQuietExec action succeeds w/o errors.   So it would appear how 
I'm specifying parameters for the command is what is causing issues.




Assuming your subject line is what's showing up in the log, it's 
reporting that failure straight from CreateProcess. Also, as you're 
trying to copy what I'm guessing are installed files, you need to call 
CAQuietExec as a deferred CA; otherwise the files haven't been installed 
yet.


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Re: [WiX-users] two different applications using shared folders

2008-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson


Michal Peled wrote:


Do fragments still exist in Wix 3.0?



Yes, absolutely. FragmentRef, the element to pull in a fragment by its 
ID, is gone, but plenty of other *Ref elements exist (and more have been 
added).


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Re: [WiX-users] Update Problems with versioned files (oxc)

2008-04-08 Thread Michael Musenbrock

Of course, here it is:

   ..

It is an update from installer version x.y.1 to x.y.2, ocx file has same
internal file version, but has internally minimal changed (uuid),
and is not updated. 'File'-Entry is the same for both installer versions.

Regards,
Michael Musenbrock

Sebastian Brand schrieb:
> Can you post the relevant code from your .wxs file please?
>
> Best regards,
> Sebastian Brand
>
> Instyler Software - http://www.instyler.com
>
>
> On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:27 , Michael Musenbrock wrote:
>> Hi there!
>>
>> Msi do not update my binaries from Visual Studio.
>> (Especially one ocx and one exe file)
>> Even if the file has changed in the update, but the internal
>> version number of this file hasn't been updated, it is ignored,
>> is there a way to preserve this and get msi to updated my files?
>> If the internal version from the executable has been changed,
>> it works lika a charm.
>>
>> The package from wich it should be upgraded, has special
>> parameters in its 'File'-Section. (no checksum, or so).
>>
>> Hopefully someone can give me good news and a hint for that.
>>
>> Michael

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Re: [WiX-users] Update Problems with versioned files (oxc)

2008-04-08 Thread Michael Musenbrock

Bob Arnson schrieb:
> Michael Musenbrock wrote:
>> Even if the file has changed in the update, but the internal
>> version number of this file hasn't been updated, it is ignored,
> That's by design. If a file has versioninfo, MSI trusts it. See
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368599(VS.85).aspx.
Ok, thanks, but one thing is not covered, how the installer decides, if
the version number of the file is equal, but the timestamps
differ, in my case, newer file has a more actual timestamp.

Regards,
Michael

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Re: [WiX-users] two different applications using shared folders

2008-04-08 Thread Michal Peled

Do fragments still exist in Wix 3.0?

I'm actually in the process of defining the shared components in one
application, planning to copy-paste them (with the same GUID) to the
other application later on.

Is there a better way to do that that'll save me the double work?

 



From: Bob Arnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 6:22 PM
To: Michal Peled
Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] two different applications using shared folders

 

Michal Peled wrote: 

I want to create a situation where one application removal doesn't
remove the common folders/files the other application is using. I would
be happy to do it as clean and simple as possible (no CA and no getting
smart).

Is there such a way of doing that?

If I give the shared components the same GUID in both installations,
would that result in the behavior I'm looking for?


Yes. The easiest way to do so is to put the shared stuff in fragments
and reference those fragments in your different apps.



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Re: [WiX-users] Update Problems with versioned files (oxc)

2008-04-08 Thread Wilson, Phil

MSI doesn't care about the timestamps of versioned files. The file version is 
what decides if it is replaced or not.

Phil Wilson

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Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Update Problems with versioned files (oxc)

Bob Arnson schrieb:
> Michael Musenbrock wrote:
>> Even if the file has changed in the update, but the internal
>> version number of this file hasn't been updated, it is ignored,
> That's by design. If a file has versioninfo, MSI trusts it. See
> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368599(VS.85).aspx.
Ok, thanks, but one thing is not covered, how the installer decides, if
the version number of the file is equal, but the timestamps
differ, in my case, newer file has a more actual timestamp.

Regards,
Michael

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Re: [WiX-users] Update Problems with versioned files (oxc)

2008-04-08 Thread Michael Musenbrock

I saw it on another page [1], I was complaining about it a little bit to
early.

[1] http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa367835(VS.85).aspx

Wilson, Phil schrieb:
> MSI doesn't care about the timestamps of versioned files. The file version is 
> what decides if it is replaced or not.
>
> Phil Wilson
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael 
> Musenbrock
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 11:01 AM
> To: Bob Arnson
> Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Update Problems with versioned files (oxc)
>
> Bob Arnson schrieb:
>   
>> Michael Musenbrock wrote:
>> 
>>> Even if the file has changed in the update, but the internal
>>> version number of this file hasn't been updated, it is ignored,
>>>   
>> That's by design. If a file has versioninfo, MSI trusts it. See
>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368599(VS.85).aspx.
>> 
> Ok, thanks, but one thing is not covered, how the installer decides, if
> the version number of the file is equal, but the timestamps
> differ, in my case, newer file has a more actual timestamp.
>
> Regards,
> Michael
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Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade Problem with WIX installer

2008-04-08 Thread Jeremy Farrell

You were asked if you had changed the "product code" and you replied that you 
had changed the "product upgrade code". What do you mean by that term? The 
message you are seeing implies that you have not changed the product code.

You need to give precise accurate information for people to be able to help you 
effectively.

> From: amitchopra
> 
> But if we are installing it from msi , it is saying that 
> "Product is already Installed"
>
> Wilson, Phil wrote:
> > 
> > If you're doing an upgrade you don't use that command line. 
> > Just run the MSI as if it is a clean install (which it is,
> > the upgrade makes it remove older versions as well).
> > 
> > From: amitchopra
> >> 
> >> Yes, we have changed the product upgrade code. The command 
> >> that we have used is:
> >>
> >> msiexec /i SampleUpgrade2.msi REINSTALL=ALL REINSTALLMODE=vomus ”
> >>
> >> Sebastian Brand-2 wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Did you change the product code in the upgrade? What's the
> >>> command prompt's parameters?
> >>>
> >>> On Apr 4, 2008, at 12:36 , amitchopra wrote:
> 
>  I have created an installer using WIX. When i am 
>  upgrading it using command prompt, it is upgraing
>  my existing version. But when i am upgrading it by
>  clicking it on the msi, it is giving error : "The version 
>  is already installed".
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Re: [WiX-users] Reverse engineered VS2003 MSI

2008-04-08 Thread Jordan Fitzgibbon

What errors did you get when you tried to build your MSI *with* the 3 CAs 
listed below?

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher 
Butcher
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:13 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Reverse engineered VS2003 MSI

Hi guys

I've run DARK on a VS2003 MSI for a Web Service.

Using the WXS generated I've built a new MSI using CANDLE and LIGHT.

On first attempt it didn't work.

I discovered that it would work when I removed the following three lines and 
then massaged the InstallExecutionSequence to cope with their disappearance.

Build the MSI - it installs ok.

However...

It does not set the default document for the web application.

The custom table entry appears to be correct;

...

...

..

...

But it just won't set.

I could understand how the removal of the 3 custom actions above might be 
causing this. But to be honest, unless I remove them, the MSI won't run 
successfully.

I've read lots of mini-guides explaining to use WebSite, WebVirtualDir and 
WebApplication. But they are all for WXS scripts started from scratch. I'm 
trying to modify this VS2003 MSI so that I can preserve the basic UI it already 
has in place.

Does anyone else have any experience of building customised WIX scripts based 
on WXS extracted by DARK from VS2003 MSI's?

Krs
Chris

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[WiX-users] Duplicate Symbol in InstallUISequence

2008-04-08 Thread Laurent.Goderre

Hi,

I'm trying to create my own set of dialog in wix. I have been looking at
several examples which all pretty much do the same thing. However using
that same code does not work. I always get duplicate symbol errors on
the default dialogs.

http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2003/01/wi";>
  

  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

  

  

  
  

  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  

  
  
  
  

  
  

  
NOT
Installed
Installed AND
(RESUME OR Preselected)
Installed
AND NOT RESUME AND NOT Preselected


  



  



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[WiX-users] pausing wix setup

2008-04-08 Thread teknolog

How can I pause a Wix setup for around 40 seconds during install execute
sequence? I need to pause by a specific amount of seconds.

Thanks,
R


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Re: [WiX-users] Reverse engineered VS2003 MSI

2008-04-08 Thread Christopher Butcher

Hi Jordan,

 

The MSI builds ok.

 

So you run it, go through the UI, the progress bar runs through as it
installs, then it fails saying "The installer was interrupted before ***
could be installed. You need to restart the installer to try again."

 

Running the MSI generating a verbose logfile you get these entries...

 

MSI (s) (38:18) [20:44:40:250]: Doing action:
WEBCA_GatherWebFolderProperties

MSI (s) (38:18) [20:44:40:250]: Note: 1: 2205 2:  3: ActionText 

Action start 20:44:40: WEBCA_GatherWebFolderProperties.

MSI (s) (38:5C) [20:44:40:265]: Invoking remote custom action. DLL:
C:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI6A.tmp, Entrypoint: GatherWebFolderProperties

MSI (s) (38!84) [20:44:40:921]: Note: 1: 2205 2:  3: _AppMappings 

MSI (s) (38!84) [20:44:40:921]: Note: 1: 2228 2:  3: _AppMappings 4:
SELECT `Extension`, `ExePath`, `Verbs` FROM `_AppMappings` WHERE
`Directory_` = 'TARGETDIR' 

MSI (s) (38:5C) [20:44:40:921]: Leaked MSIHANDLE (45) of type 790540 for
thread 5764

MSI (s) (38:5C) [20:44:40:921]: Note: 1: 2769 2:
WEBCA_GatherWebFolderProperties 3: 1 

MSI (s) (38:5C) [20:44:40:921]: Note: 1: 2205 2:  3: Error 

MSI (s) (38:5C) [20:44:40:921]: Note: 1: 2228 2:  3: Error 4: SELECT
`Message` FROM `Error` WHERE `Error` = 2769 

DEBUG: Error 2769:  Custom Action WEBCA_GatherWebFolderProperties did
not close 1 MSIHANDLEs.

The installer has encountered an unexpected error installing this
package. This may indicate a problem with this package. The error code
is 2769. The arguments are: WEBCA_GatherWebFolderProperties, 1, 

Action ended 20:44:40: WEBCA_GatherWebFolderProperties. Return value 3.

 

I'll send the WXS to your personal email for your perusal.

 

Thanks

Chris

 



From: Jordan Fitzgibbon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 April 2008 19:33
To: Christopher Butcher; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: Reverse engineered VS2003 MSI

 

What errors did you get when you tried to build your MSI *with* the 3
CAs listed below? 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Christopher Butcher
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:13 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Reverse engineered VS2003 MSI

 

Hi guys

 

I've run DARK on a VS2003 MSI for a Web Service.

 

Using the WXS generated I've built a new MSI using CANDLE and LIGHT.

 

On first attempt it didn't work. 

 

I discovered that it would work when I removed the following three lines
and then massaged the InstallExecutionSequence to cope with their
disappearance.

 







 

Build the MSI - it installs ok.

 

However...

 

It does not set the default document for the web application.

 

The custom table entry appears to be correct;

 



  

  

  

  







  





...





...





..





...



 

But it just won't set.

 

I could understand how the removal of the 3 custom actions above might
be causing this. But to be honest, unless I remove them, the MSI won't
run successfully.

 

I've read lots of mini-guides explaining to use WebSite, WebVirtualDir
and WebApplication. But they are all for WXS scripts started from
scratch. I'm trying to modify this VS2003 MSI so that I can preserve the
basic UI it already has in place.

 

Does anyone else have any experience of building customised WIX scripts
based on WXS extracted by DARK from VS2003 MSI's?

 

Krs

Chris

 

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Re: [WiX-users] Reverse engineered VS2003 MSI

2008-04-08 Thread Jim Williams

It looks like it is failing because it is trying to query from two
tables, _AppMappings and Error, that don't exist in your MSI file. The
2205 error means the table does not exist, as does 2228 when querying
it.  You may have to define these tables to get it to work properly.

Jim Williams 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Christopher Butcher
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 12:50 PM
To: Jordan Fitzgibbon; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Reverse engineered VS2003 MSI

 

Hi Jordan,

 

The MSI builds ok.

 

So you run it, go through the UI, the progress bar runs through as it
installs, then it fails saying "The installer was interrupted before ***
could be installed. You need to restart the installer to try again."

 

Running the MSI generating a verbose logfile you get these entries...

 

MSI (s) (38:18) [20:44:40:250]: Doing action:
WEBCA_GatherWebFolderProperties

MSI (s) (38:18) [20:44:40:250]: Note: 1: 2205 2:  3: ActionText 

Action start 20:44:40: WEBCA_GatherWebFolderProperties.

MSI (s) (38:5C) [20:44:40:265]: Invoking remote custom action. DLL:
C:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI6A.tmp, Entrypoint: GatherWebFolderProperties

MSI (s) (38!84) [20:44:40:921]: Note: 1: 2205 2:  3: _AppMappings 

MSI (s) (38!84) [20:44:40:921]: Note: 1: 2228 2:  3: _AppMappings 4:
SELECT `Extension`, `ExePath`, `Verbs` FROM `_AppMappings` WHERE
`Directory_` = 'TARGETDIR' 

MSI (s) (38:5C) [20:44:40:921]: Leaked MSIHANDLE (45) of type 790540 for
thread 5764

MSI (s) (38:5C) [20:44:40:921]: Note: 1: 2769 2:
WEBCA_GatherWebFolderProperties 3: 1 

MSI (s) (38:5C) [20:44:40:921]: Note: 1: 2205 2:  3: Error 

MSI (s) (38:5C) [20:44:40:921]: Note: 1: 2228 2:  3: Error 4: SELECT
`Message` FROM `Error` WHERE `Error` = 2769 

DEBUG: Error 2769:  Custom Action WEBCA_GatherWebFolderProperties did
not close 1 MSIHANDLEs.

The installer has encountered an unexpected error installing this
package. This may indicate a problem with this package. The error code
is 2769. The arguments are: WEBCA_GatherWebFolderProperties, 1, 

Action ended 20:44:40: WEBCA_GatherWebFolderProperties. Return value 3.

 

I'll send the WXS to your personal email for your perusal.

 

Thanks

Chris

 



From: Jordan Fitzgibbon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 April 2008 19:33
To: Christopher Butcher; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: Reverse engineered VS2003 MSI

 

What errors did you get when you tried to build your MSI *with* the 3
CAs listed below? 

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Christopher Butcher
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 9:13 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Reverse engineered VS2003 MSI

 

Hi guys

 

I've run DARK on a VS2003 MSI for a Web Service.

 

Using the WXS generated I've built a new MSI using CANDLE and LIGHT.

 

On first attempt it didn't work. 

 

I discovered that it would work when I removed the following three lines
and then massaged the InstallExecutionSequence to cope with their
disappearance.

 







 

Build the MSI - it installs ok.

 

However...

 

It does not set the default document for the web application.

 

The custom table entry appears to be correct;

 



  

  

  

  







  





...





...





..





...



 

But it just won't set.

 

I could understand how the removal of the 3 custom actions above might
be causing this. But to be honest, unless I remove them, the MSI won't
run successfully.

 

I've read lots of mini-guides explaining to use WebSite, WebVirtualDir
and WebApplication. But they are all for WXS scripts started from
scratch. I'm trying to modify this VS2003 MSI so that I can preserve the
basic UI it already has in place.

 

Does anyone else have any experience of building customised WIX scripts
based on WXS extracted by DARK from VS2003 MSI's?

 

Krs

Chris

 

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Re: [WiX-users] pausing wix setup

2008-04-08 Thread teknolog

Nvm. I figured it out.

Thanks,
R

> How can I pause a Wix setup for around 40 seconds during install execute
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>
> Thanks,
> R
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Re: [WiX-users] Help required!

2008-04-08 Thread Kiran Subhedar (Sogeti)

Hi,
I am receving an error in the log file as below when trying to install the MSI 
on Windows Server 2003 (32-bit) at location: C:\Documents and 
Settings\v-kisubh\My Documents\<>. We are using [PersonalFolder] 
location as the default install location for the MSI.
"Error 1335. The cabinet file 'ReferenceSource.cab' required for this 
installation is corrupt and cannot be used. This could indicate a network 
error, an error reading from the CD-ROM, or a problem with this package.
MSI (s) (8C:6C) [16:31:45:663]: Product: Reference Source -- Error 1335. The 
cabinet file 'ReferenceSource.cab' required for this installation is corrupt 
and cannot be used. This could indicate a network error, an error reading from 
the CD-ROM, or a problem with this package."

What could be the issue? Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Kiran

From: Bob Arnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:44 AM
To: Kiran Subhedar (Sogeti)
Cc: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Help required!

Kiran Subhedar (Sogeti) wrote:

But somehow this is not working for me. The command simply fails and 
InstallFinalize returns a value of '3'.

Check a verbose log. WiX custom actions log fairly detailed error information.


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Re: [WiX-users] Shortcut removal and ICE38 silliness

2008-04-08 Thread SteveLoof

Thanks for the response but re-reading this I did leave out a crucial bit of
info. I am aware of using the condition to create (or not) the shortcut
depending on the state of the condition on the checkbox but this only aplies
to the first install of the product. It is on Upgrade that I have the
problem.

The scenario is this. I have installed for the first time and ticked the box
and created the shortcut. I then upgrade the product and decide that I
didn't want that shortcut after all. The box comes up ticked (we record the
state of the box from the previous install in a HKLM registry key and then
read that key to populate the checkbox) and so I untick it thinking this
should remove the shortcut (as the client this is). From my testing this
does not remove the already existing shortcut (not suprisingly). The HKLM
registry entry changes from 1 (the checkbox checked value) to null (it is
string not integer\DWORD and so will handle a null value) but the shortcut
remains (as there is nothing to tell the install to delete it). What I am
enquiring about is a mechanism to delete the existing shortcut on upgrade if
the checkbox is unticked without resorting to a custom action calling an
external executable (C++) if this is possible in WIX (3.0) land.

Apologies for the confusion.

SteveLoof wrote:
> 
> I have 2 issues currently, one of which I think I am going to have to live
> with and the other I am hoping someone has some suggestions for.
> 
> I am relatively new to the world of WIX and am coming from using WISE for
> Windows. In our Wise install we have a number of shortcuts for various
> bits of our product and in varying locations (DesktopFolder, Quicklaunch
> (which I haven't started wrestling with yet) and ProgramMenu). These are
> turned on or off by the value given to the property associated with
> checkboxes for each. As in Wise creating a shortcut is easy, it is
> removing the shortcut if it is unwanted (the checkbox is unticked). In
> Wise we used a custom action to run a del command from the command line in
> a Wise Script.
> 
> In WIX I amtrying to avoid having to write a C++ script to do the same
> job. I have tried a  SHTCUT01 <> 1. The problem here seems to be
> that the RemoveFile action is run before the shortcut file (textpad.lnk
> for instance) is created and I can't sequence this step. Any other ideas?
> 
> Also ICE38. I have read a bit about this and the reasons for it. We are
> running no advertised shortcuts and don't expect self repair to
> necessarily be available (we have a C++ script to look at the HKLM
> registry settings (which we write as part of the install) and set up a new
> users environment accordingly. I have to add not one but 2 useless
> registry keys, one to create the shortcut and the other on the RemoveFile
> component (even if that isn't the way to remove the shortcut I may need
> that functionality elsewhere). Nobody seems to think this is a good test
> for WI to be enforcing (for Vista certification need 0 ICE errors
> (Microsoft Office has plenty of ICE errors)). Any idea if Microsoft are
> planning to get rid of it?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [WiX-users] pausing wix setup

2008-04-08 Thread Sebastian Brand


Can you tell us how? Via a Custom Action?

Best regards,
Sebastian Brand

Instyler Software - http://www.instyler.com


On Apr 9, 2008, at 1:08 , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Nvm. I figured it out.

Thanks,
R

How can I pause a Wix setup for around 40 seconds during install  
execute

sequence? I need to pause by a specific amount of seconds.

Thanks,
R


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