Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimedia open dinner at Newspeak House
e cooking, would anybody in the community like to come for a free meal, some networking and a nice place to have a drink and discuss projects? If anybody would like to help with the cooking, that would be good too. At the moment if anybody who would be interested to attend would let me know, that would be great. I'm thinking of 1 November or 8 November. Let me know what you all think of the idea. John Lubbock Communications Coordinator Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 203 372 0767 <+44%2020%203372%200767> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1, Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. - ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
[Wikimediauk-l] Recent changes and watchlists broken on the WMUK Wiki
Currently, both recent changes and watchlists on the WMUK Wiki are showing 0 changes, despite there being changes that should be shown - there have been four posts to the Engine Room (where this problem was flagged up) in the past 2 days for example. Chris Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Recent changes and watchlists broken on the WMUK Wiki
It seems that having only one person able to access the server files is a poor idea for various reasons including business continutiy, reliability and issues lie this one. I don't have the skills for the job, but there must be someone in the community that does? Chris On Fri, 30 Nov 2018, John Lubbock wrote: Hi Chris, I know, I know, it's a huge problem we've been having. All the extensions are also down, and some domains like the QRPedia one and the stats.wikimedia.org.uk one are also not working, and have not been doing so for a while. I'm told that Tom Morton is trying to fix things but I think he's part time, and I keep on asking for updates about when things might be fixed, but I've not heard anyhting about when they might be fixed. Things are going as fast as he can manage, I suppose, but without a full time person to do this on staff, and with Tom the only person who has access to the server files, it's all going very slowly. Trust me nobody is more frustrated about it all than me. John Lubbock Communications Coordinator Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 203 372 0767 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Office 1, Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 0NZ. Wikimedia UK is the national chapter of the global Wikimedia open knowledge movement. We rely on donations from individuals to support our work to make knowledge open for all. Have you considered supporting Wikimedia UK? Donate here <https://donate.wikimedia.org.uk>. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 12:54, Chris McKenna wrote: Currently, both recent changes and watchlists on the WMUK Wiki are showing 0 changes, despite there being changes that should be shown - there have been four posts to the Engine Room (where this problem was flagged up) in the past 2 days for example. Chris Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Recent changes and watchlists broken on the WMUK Wiki
On Fri, 30 Nov 2018, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 at 15:42, wrote: Engine Room water cooler I suggest re-merging those pages. The level of traffic is not high and the benefits of splitting them were never clear. The point of splitting them was that internal meta discussions about the charity, its governance, the technology, and miscellaneous grievances were distrating from (and a times overwhelming) outward-facing communication regarding events, volunteering, etc. However given that at the moment almost nobody is using the wiki to communicate about anything (and even fewer people are doing so successfully) it is probably best to merge them for now - probably just archive the curent posts on the Engine Room and redirect it to the Watercooler with a note about where to find the archives. This way splitting them again, should the activity level in future return to previous levels, will not require any significant effort. Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
[Wikimediauk-l] Recent changes and watchlists on the UK wiki are still broken
This issue was raised on the wiki and this mailing list at the end of November. We were assured then that the problem, apparently also affecting QRpedia among other things, and action was in hand to resolve this problem and prevent similar issues in the future. However, over a month later (albeit with Christmas in the way) there is no evidence that anything has happened (I have made two edits to the sandbox today, should anyone wish to do their own testing). This leads to some questions: -Is it really the case that there is only a single volunteer who can fix the wiki? -If so, how and why has this been allowed to happen? -What contingency plans does WMUK have in case this volunteer dies or otherwise becomes permanently (or long term) unvailable, with or without warning? -If not, why has the problem not been fixed yet? In either case: -What is the timescale for fixing the problems? -What concrete actions have been undertaken since November to prevent this happening again? -What concrete actions are planned to be undertaken in the future to prevent this happening again (short and long term), and what is the timescale for them happening? Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
[Wikimediauk-l] Manchester meetup
Just some advance notice that I am organising a meetup in Manchester on Sunday 9 June - details are at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Manchester/36 The provisional venue is The Waterhouse on Princess Street. This is set as provisional because it's a Weatherspoons pub, and I know some people would prefer altneratives - the selection is due soley to it being the venue of the previous two (at least) meets in the city and the suitable venue in the city I've been to*, so if you know of any equal or better alternatives please suggest them on the talk page. *Of the three others, one is too small by an order of magnitude, one is a hotel bar that I'm not certain is open to non-residents and the third is the worst live music venue I think I've ever been to (or at least it was 10 years ago). Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin
I've only been half following this, but On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Andreas Kolbe wrote: Erik Möller has posted some comments on Wikimedia-l: - My understanding is that qrpedia.org is still under individual control, rather than chapter control. Is that correct? If so this is a bit problematic, and it would be good to secure control of it (I'm not offering that WMF would host it; I don't think the value/impact case for QR codes is sufficiently strong for that, but it would be good for at least a chapter to take responsibility for it for now). In the messages I've read (not all), it has been stated at least twice that the process transferring this to WMUK (i.e. exactly what is being asked for) is ongoing, and has been for some time (held up by complicated legal issues, rather than a lack of desire from either party). How many times do the same questions need to be answered? (feel free to forward this to wikimedia-l, I don't subscribe to that list) Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Polish becomes England's second language
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, David Gerard wrote: On 30 January 2013 16:39, Peter Coombe wrote: Welsh gets 0.4% of all UK edits, putting it in 5th place, but doesn't even register for number of views (i.e. is less than 0.1%). Maybe we need to do more to promote its visibility. Definitely. Who here speaks Welsh? Who's on cy:wp? I can read basic Welsh, but my command of the language isn't enough to usefully contribute in it. ---- Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Office] More "Wiki Takes …" events in September for WLM ?
If I can, I'll help with this as well and suburban rail and bus isn't normally a bother for me - do the buses still require exact change only? I don't think I've been on a bus in that city this millennium! Chris On Tue, 27 Aug 2013, HJ Mitchell wrote: Birmingham would be different because it's much bigger than Coventry or Chester (by both area and population), but there would be people who were willing to get on trains or buses to go further out. Commons is relatively sparse on images of Birmingham outside the city centre. It's certainly doable and I'd love to help if somebody wants to make "Wikipedia Takes Birmingham" their baby. Harry Mitchell I'd gladly help with that, being in Birmingham anyway. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Aug 23, 2013 1:09 PM, "Richard Symonds" wrote: To be honest, I'd love to do one in Birmingham, in my own time. Ill have a think about it today. On Aug 23, 2013 12:42 PM, "Michael Maggs" wrote: Harry Mitchell is running a Wiki Takes Chester event on 7th September. (http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Takes_Chester) Is anyone able to run another local event in September that could pull people in to the Wiki Loves Monuments competition? Michael See: http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org.uk/ Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
[Wikimediauk-l] WikiLovesMonuments photos from Keith Hobbs
Hi all Keith Hobbs gave me his 27 photos that he was unable to upload at the Chester event. I now will not have time to sort or upload them, but I can send them to someone who can if they give me an email address or something. Chris Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WMUK Office] Open House 10th of December
On Tue, 1 Oct 2013, Jon Davies wrote: I would hope we could see who wins and if they are all from Inverness then so be it. Off to Inverness Michael M! If not we will consider paying travel. So what happens when the winners are from Penzance, Newry, Inverness and Dover!? Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wiki Loves Monuments deadline rapidly approaching
On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, brian.mcn...@wikinewsie.org wrote: Quoting Chris Keating : well done everyone! I see the UK ended up the 5th-biggest country in terms of the number of contributors, and 8th in terms of total photos uploaded. Not bad for a first attempt! I only got out taking photos one afternoon, and one late-night. I have lots of photos, both from this September and previously, but I ran out of time to sort through them. I'll do my best to get them ready for next year's competition though :) ---- Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] BBC open licences voice samples from radio programmes: 'Speakerthon' event invitation
Excellent initiative, well done! I've booked my place and spread the word to a few friends I know who might be interested. Chris Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Accessibility
On Mon, 13 Jan 2014, Tom Morris wrote: Images of text shouldn't happen... except sometimes there is a very good reason to. For instance, if it's text in an ancient language that we have yet to produce a text representation of (although Unicode *does* have ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs). Articles on en.wp about characters or writing systems sometimes have text and images of the same text to allow for people who don't have supporting fonts installed. See for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samekh and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_alphabet The IPA charts appear to have been reorganised away from columns for images and text of the same character since I last looked, which is an improvement. The mouseover text for all IPA characters appears to be "representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" though, which is not useful though. Chris Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Allegation of thefts at London wikimeets
While I would not necessarily be aware of anything reported through official channels, this is the first that I am aware of these allegations. Certainly I can recall nothing being mentioned at any of the most recent few London Wikimeets where I have usually been one of the first to arrive and almost always one of the last three to leave. I am equally unaware of any desire to restrict discussion in the way you describe. The only desire of which I am aware is to keep the Water Cooler on the WMUK wiki free of navel-gazing and dirty laundry (such should now take place at the Engine Room instead). Certainly if these allegations have been made in good faith then it is something that people should be aware of. In all circumstances though it is a Good Idea for people to be sensible about their belongings in any public place. Chris On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Fæ wrote: Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJimbo_Wales&diff=599455648&oldid=599454347 The allegation on Jimmy Wales' soapbox is the first I had heard of any problems on any channel. Was anything reported officially or is this subtle trolling? I know that the current group-think is that discussion should be limited to Good News stories and positive PR, but if there have been thefts then a warning to attendees to take care would have been nice. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Allegation of thefts at London wikimeets
I see that Jimbo has replied on his talk page now saying that he was unaware of the allegations also. Although I doubt that the official channels for this sort of thing include making him personally aware as a matter of routine. Chris On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Chris McKenna wrote: While I would not necessarily be aware of anything reported through official channels, this is the first that I am aware of these allegations. Certainly I can recall nothing being mentioned at any of the most recent few London Wikimeets where I have usually been one of the first to arrive and almost always one of the last three to leave. I am equally unaware of any desire to restrict discussion in the way you describe. The only desire of which I am aware is to keep the Water Cooler on the WMUK wiki free of navel-gazing and dirty laundry (such should now take place at the Engine Room instead). Certainly if these allegations have been made in good faith then it is something that people should be aware of. In all circumstances though it is a Good Idea for people to be sensible about their belongings in any public place. Chris On Thu, 13 Mar 2014, Fæ wrote: Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJimbo_Wales&diff=599455648&oldid=599454347 The allegation on Jimmy Wales' soapbox is the first I had heard of any problems on any channel. Was anything reported officially or is this subtle trolling? I know that the current group-think is that discussion should be limited to Good News stories and positive PR, but if there have been thefts then a warning to attendees to take care would have been nice. Fae -- fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
[Wikimediauk-l] Long-term loans of WMUK equipment (was Re: Allegation of thefts at London wikimeets)
I have no in-principle objections to this (on-wiki reporting of long-term loans of equipment) as long as: (a) "Long-term" is defined. (b) There is no requirement to breach anonymity (e.g. recording against username OR realname, as preferred by the volunteer, not necessarily both), (c) People borrowing the equipment are informed that it will be recorded publically in advance. (d) The recording does not endanger the safety/security of the volunteer and/or equipment. For example I borrowed a laptop for the train-the-trainers event at the beginning of February (as mine was broken) and also transported another laptop for the use of a second volunteer. I spent a few days with my family en-route back from the training and used one of the laptops for purposes including (but not limited to) Wikipedia and Commons editing during that time. The other was with me but not used. Does this count as long-term? Regarding the security aspect, I took I think it was four WMUK laptops (and my own) up to Newcastle for the editathon at the Mining Institute in November. If it was publicly known that I was carrying five laptops then there is a (admittedly small) chance that I could have been targetted by someone with criminal intent. In this case reporting the details after the event would not have the same security implications, and for a 2-day event the delay would not be very significant. This might not be the case for all scenarios though - e.g. someone borrowing a DSLR for a fornight to take photos of remote parts of the Western Isles. Chris On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Fæ wrote: I have no idea why long term loans should be in secret. If someone wishes to borrow a camera or a laptop for a project that helps create content for Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, the charity should encourage an *open and transparent* proposal and report on the project as one funded/supported by the charity. This is a good thing and we should celebrate it. If it turns out that long term secret loans over the last couple of years are mostly to employees (outside of their defined role) or the friends and family of employees, it could damage the reputation of the charity if questioned on how it manages its assets to ensure that there are no inappropriate benefits, and how it maintains its commitment for transparency. In comparison, when the WMF has provided money and equipment to worthy projects that lacked funds (many laptops have been given out over the years), as far as I am aware, this has never been done in secret, even if the justification was that the potential contributors were not rich enough to purchase their own kit. Please openly report long term loans on the charity's wiki. For example, I see no reason why my long term loan of a Macmini should not be a matter of public record, and I am prepared to report on related content creation - doing otherwise is likely to fall in conflict with the proposed changes to the Terms of Use of Wikimedia Foundation websites. It would be unwise and potentially misleading to give volunteers or employees with long term free loans of equipment the impression that they would not be obliged to declare that their editing/contributions were directly supported and effectively sponsored by the charity. Fae ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk ---- Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikipedian-in-Residence summit
What information have you found about this event? I have been unable to verify its existence based on searches of google, WMF wikis and mailing lists to which I am subscribed. The closest I can come is Daria posting on the 17th March on the WMF Outreach Wiki about WMUK's survey about WIR positions in the UK [1], or her posting on the Water Cooler on Thursday (3 April) about the volunteer opportunity related to analysing the data from this survey [2]. This makes me wonder whether some wires have got crossed somewhere along the line? Chris [1] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikipedian_in_Residence#Wikimedia_UK_is_running_a_survey_of_its_WIR_programme [2] https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Water_cooler#Looking_for_a_Research_Volunteer_to_help_us_with_the_Wikimedian_in_Residence_survey_-_interesting_opportunity.21 On Sun, 6 Apr 2014, Andy Mabbett wrote: As a four-time[1] Wikipedian-in-Residence (indeed, as WMUK's first Wikipedian-in-Residence), I would be interested to know more about the "Wikipedian-in-Residence summit", which was apparently held by WMUK yesterday. I don't seem to be able to find anything on the wiki, not even an event listing. [1] More , if you count short stints under other titles. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimedia-l] Rating Wikimedia content (was Our next strategy plan-Paid editing)
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014, Jonathan Cardy wrote: For media files there are two things we already have, size of the file and who created it. Filesize doesn't guarantee quality, but there must be a size below which we just have a blurry thumbnail. This is only true of photographic images. Quality of SVG files is entirely independent of filesize and dimensions. Assessing the possible quality of images by looking at how many other quality images have come from the same user is likely to be helpful. Another image by someone who has had multiple featured pictures should be a positive on any rating system. There is a danger in this of selecting images only from those who submit their work for review. One user on Commons has possibly hundreds of Quality Images of rolling stock, I have none. I know I am biased but some (not all by any means) of my images are of equal or greater quality but I have never submitted my images for review in this way. This is not to say the approaches are without merit, just that it is important to be aware of potential limitations. Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Photographers needed for photography at the Tank Museum in Dorset
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[Wikimediauk-l] Barcamp Birmingham 7 June 2014
There is a "bar camp" happening in Birmingham on 7 June 2014 (see below for details). It would be good to have someone from a Wikimedia perspective there if anyone is interested, and maybe use the opportunity to advertise Wikimania this August (the Wikimedia UK Wikimania team are all busy that day). *What is a bar camp?* A bar camp is a conference where what happens is organised by the delegates on the day. The event organisers have to arrange something, the main one being the venue, but the rest is down to the delegates. So all the hassle of talk submissions, review and scheduling is taken away. http://www.flossuk.org/Events/BarcampBirmingham2014 -- Chris McKenna Wikimania 2014 Support Wikimedia UK chris.mcke...@wikimedia.org.uk tel: +44 (0) 20 7065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Charitable Company registered in England and Wales. Registered Company No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office: 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Metropolitan police images
Thanks for that Andy, at the very least this is a good start and it has the advantage of being a good thing in its own right if it doesn't develop any further. Chris On 2 June 2014 17:37, Andy Mabbett wrote: > I've been in correspondence with London's Metropolitan Police] over > the last few months, discussing the possibility of them open-licensing > some of their images - not least the scenic (as opposed to > scene-of-crime) pictures taken from their helicopters, and/ or images > posted to their social media accounts. > > They have decided that they so not wish to do so on a blanket basis, > but say that they are willing to consider requests to do so for images > in an individual basis. You may send requests to: > dmc-mailbox-.pressbureau-...@met.pnn.police.uk > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk -- Chris McKenna Wikimania 2014 Support Wikimedia UK chris.mcke...@wikimedia.org.uk tel: +44 (0) 20 7065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Charitable Company registered in England and Wales. Registered Company No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office: 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Kings Cross event
On Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Charles Matthews wrote: I think you have just invented the sledgathon, aka wreckshop ... A sledgeathon just gives me the mental image of trying to edit Wikipedia while hurting down an icy track in a bobsleigh. I'm not certain this would be successfull. Chris Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Kings Cross event
Be serious people, snow joking matter. On 20 June 2014 12:23, James Farrar wrote: > Icy what you did there. > > On 20 Jun 2014 11:19, "Richard Symonds" > wrote: >> >> Yeah, a very slippery slope. >> >> Richard Symonds >> Wikimedia UK >> 0207 065 0992 >> >> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and >> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered >> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. >> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia >> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who >> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). >> >> Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control >> over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. >> >> >> >> On 20 June 2014 11:16, Richard Nevell >> wrote: >>> >>> It has the potential to go down hill rapidly >>> >>> >>> On 20 June 2014 11:06, WereSpielChequers >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Editing from a bobsleigh could be an interesting test of our mobile Wifi >>>> >>>> >>>> On 18 June 2014 16:21, Chris McKenna wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Charles Matthews wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think you have just invented the sledgathon, aka wreckshop ... >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A sledgeathon just gives me the mental image of trying to edit >>>>> Wikipedia while hurting down an icy track in a bobsleigh. I'm not certain >>>>> this would be successfull. >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chris McKenna >>>>> >>>>> cmcke...@sucs.org >>>>> www.sucs.org/~cmckenna >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, >>>>> but with the heart >>>>> >>>>> Antoine de Saint Exupery >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>>>> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>>> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Richard Nevell >>> Assistant Office Manager >>> Wikimedia UK >>> +44 (0) 20 7065 0753 >>> >>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and >>> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered >>> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. >>> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia >>> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who >>> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). >>> >>> Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control >>> over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >> >> >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk -- Chris McKenna Wikimania 2014 Support Wikimedia UK chris.mcke...@wikimedia.org.uk tel: +44 (0) 20 7065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Charitable Company registered in England and Wales. Registered Company No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office: 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
[Wikimediauk-l] Things the Wikimania information desk needs to know
We are compiling a list of things the information desk at Wikimania needs to know. Please contribute your suggestions and ask other people you know to do the same. https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Information_desk_knowledge Thanks Chris -- Chris McKenna Wikimania 2014 Support Wikimedia UK chris.mcke...@wikimedia.org.uk tel: +44 (0) 20 7065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Charitable Company registered in England and Wales. Registered Company No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office: 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] Bring your old broken laptops to Wikimania!
From what I have read about these new rules, it seems that they apply only to hand luggage so a broken laptop in your luggage case would seem OK (why you'd want a broken laptop with you on a flight I'm not sure anway!). It will be worth checking with a more authorative source than me if you plan on doing this though. Chris On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Ellie Young wrote: On Jul 28, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Patricio Lorente wrote: I don't know the English word for "aguafiestas", wet blanket but anyway: in the security checks at the airports, if you can't turn on your laptop, they may confiscate it and you are going to have a bad time. Be careful with that. Indeed.To be more specific, here are the new rules at the UK airports: New Security Rules for the UK: A new security crackdown announced recently by the UK Government means that all passengers flying INTO or OUT of the UK must ensure all electronic devices being carried in hand luggage are sufficiently charged to be turned on. US officials ordered some overseas airports with direct flights to the US, including Heathrow and Manchester, to step up screening of electronic devices, such as mobile phones, laptops, shavers and cameras. Any devices that can't be turned on might be confiscated. Patricio 2014-07-28 15:18 GMT-03:00 HJ Mitchell : Hi all, One of our volunteers asked me to put out a call for broken laptops. If you have a broken laptop and you want somebody to help you fix it or you just want to see it recycled, please bring it along to Wikimania! I imagine lots of us will have broken laptops knocking around, and this could be a great opportunity to bring them back to life or to recycle them properly. So we have an idea of demand, please email me off-list if you're interested. Thanks, Harry Mitchell http://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: +44 (0) 7507 536971 Skype: harry_j_mitchell ___ Wikimania-l mailing list wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Patricio Lorente Blog: http://www.patriciolorente.com.ar Identi.ca // Twitter: @patriciolorente ___ Wikimania-l mailing list wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [Wikimania-l] Bring your old broken laptops to Wikimania!
Genuine question, could you carry the battery in hand luggage and the rest of the laptop in hold luggage? On 31 July 2014 16:43, Deryck Chan wrote: > Rechargeable batteries are banned from hold luggage and mail altogether. > > So, while this is an admirable idea, I'm afraid bringing a completely > inoperable (e.g. due to dead battery) machine wouldn't work. But I guess > old laptops are still appreciated! > On 29 Jul 2014 03:09, "Chris McKenna" wrote: > >> From what I have read about these new rules, it seems that they apply >> only to hand luggage so a broken laptop in your luggage case would seem OK >> (why you'd want a broken laptop with you on a flight I'm not sure anway!). >> >> It will be worth checking with a more authorative source than me if you >> plan on doing this though. >> >> Chris >> >> On Mon, 28 Jul 2014, Ellie Young wrote: >> >> >>> >>> On Jul 28, 2014, at 11:49 AM, Patricio Lorente < >>> patricio.lore...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I don't know the English word for "aguafiestas", >>>> >>> >>> wet blanket >>> >>> but anyway: in the security checks at the airports, if you can't turn >>>> on your laptop, they may confiscate it and you are going to have a bad >>>> time. Be careful with that. >>>> >>> >>> Indeed.To be more specific, here are the new rules at the UK >>> airports: >>> >>> New Security Rules for the UK: A new security crackdown announced >>> recently by the UK >>> Government means that all passengers flying INTO or OUT of the UK must >>> ensure all >>> electronic devices being carried in hand luggage are sufficiently >>> charged to be turned on. US >>> officials ordered some overseas airports with direct flights to the US, >>> including Heathrow and >>> Manchester, to step up screening of electronic devices, such as mobile >>> phones, laptops, shavers >>> and cameras. Any devices that can't be turned on might be confiscated. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Patricio >>>> >>>> >>>> 2014-07-28 15:18 GMT-03:00 HJ Mitchell : >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> One of our volunteers asked me to put out a call for broken laptops. If >>>> you have a broken laptop and you want somebody to help you fix it or you >>>> just want to see it recycled, please bring it along to Wikimania! >>>> >>>> I imagine lots of us will have broken laptops knocking around, and this >>>> could be a great opportunity to bring them back to life or to recycle them >>>> properly. >>>> >>>> So we have an idea of demand, please email me off-list if you're >>>> interested. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Harry Mitchell >>>> http://enwp.org/User:HJ >>>> Phone: +44 (0) 7507 536971 >>>> Skype: harry_j_mitchell >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>>> wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Patricio Lorente >>>> Blog: http://www.patriciolorente.com.ar >>>> Identi.ca // Twitter: @patriciolorente >>>> ___ >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>>> wikimani...@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> Chris McKenna >> >> cmcke...@sucs.org >> www.sucs.org/~cmckenna >> >> >> The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, >> but with the heart >> >> Antoine de Saint Exupery >> >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > -- Chris McKenna Wikimania 2014 Support Wikimedia UK chris.mcke...@wikimedia.org.uk tel: +44 (0) 20 7065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Charitable Company registered in England and Wales. Registered Company No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office: 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM
Have you checked your spam folders? Its not a bad idea for everyone to add @wikimedia.org.uk to your whitelist to make sure these emails go to your inbox. On 7 Aug 2014 08:13, "Dhaval S. Vyas" wrote: > Hi Lodewijk, > > I think you're not the only one, I haven't received any of the "four" > either. > > Dhaval > On 7 Aug 2014 00:11, "Lodewijk" wrote: > >> Might it be that for some reason I did not receive those? I do remember >> seeing email a while ago (checked: 27 June), when things were preliminary >> etc, but don't recall anything recent with the final agenda etc? And >> definitely not four. And don't recall a post package either (but living >> outside the UK that might be an exception). If you could send me the >> dates/topics/sender I could check my archives and spam though. >> >> Anyway, if it was just me then too bad of course. Apologies if for some >> reason I overlooked. >> >> Best, >> Lodewijk >> >> >> 2014-08-07 0:02 GMT+01:00 Richard Symonds < >> richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk>: >> >>> Hi Lodewijk, >>> >>> I've sent four emails and a pack in the post... >>> On 7 Aug 2014 00:00, "Lodewijk" wrote: >>> Hi, I was doubting if it would be worth to miss other sessions (one of which facilitated by me) to join the WMUK agm this weekend, but I couldn't find an email announcing the final agenda with prepared motions etc. I was curious, is such an announcement towards the membership forthcoming, or did I miss something? I know it is probably somewhere on the wiki, but this kind of information would by me be very much appreciated in a push format rather than pull :) Best, Lodewijk ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >>> >>> ___ >>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >> > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] AGM
A notice about your membership status has been automatically included at the bottom of every newsletter sent out by WMUK in the past 12 months at least. For example the last one I have saved said: "Date of end of membership term: 2015-10-02 | Your Membership Status: Current" (I will check that as I think it should say 2014) Jon has already indicated that moving forwards specific emails about membership expiry will be sent as soon as the technology allows. [please note this message is sent in a person capacity, but my personal email account is down currently] On 7 August 2014 12:26, Lodewijk wrote: > I must say that it is odd that if there is realization that a whole bunch > of memberships is about to lapse, nobody sends (even manually) a bunch of > reminders out... > > > 2014-08-07 12:10 GMT+01:00 Jon Davies : > >> The old system of an alert at the bottom of the monthly newsletter was *not >> fit for purpose.* >> >> We will now have a much better system with our new database that w will >> send proper direct email reminders. >> >> Jon. >> >> >> >> On 7 August 2014 12:07, Andrew West wrote: >> >>> On 7 August 2014 11:57, Lodewijk wrote: >>> > Confusion solved, it seems WMUK lapsed my membership without >>> notification. >>> > So I didn't receive notices as I'm apparently no longer a member. >>> >>> That's exactly what happened to me. I would have renewed my WMUK >>> membership if I had been reminded, but I wasn't and so I am not >>> eligible to vote this time. >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> ___ >>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. Mobile (0044) 7803 505 169 >> tweet @jonatreesdavies >> >> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and >> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered >> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. >> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia >> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who >> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). >> Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. >> >> Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk >> >> _______ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >> > > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk > -- Chris McKenna Wikimania 2014 Support Wikimedia UK chris.mcke...@wikimedia.org.uk tel: +44 (0) 20 7065 0990 Wikimedia UK is a Charitable Company registered in England and Wales. Registered Company No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office: 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
[Wikimediauk-l] Expired security certificate
I am presently unable to view the WMUK website because the security certificate expired in the early hours of this morning: wikimedia.org.uk uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate expired on 31/08/14 00:59. The current time is 31/08/14 10:02. (Error code: sec_error_expired_certificate) This needs to be fixed as soon as possible. Note it also means I can't get to the bugzilla to report it there. Chris Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
[Wikimediauk-l] Competing with Wikipedia (was: new book on Wikipedia)
There are sites that can successfully co-exist with Wikipedia, either by focusing on a niche area that is out of scope for Wikipedia (almost everything at Wikia for example), or by having a different philosophy (e.g. Rational Wiki), or some combination of the two (e.g. TV Tropes). Not all are successful though (e.g. Conservapedia). Where sites have tried to occupy the same ground as Wikipedia (e.g Citizendium) they generally either fail completely or wither and linger. You could argue that Baidu is an exception, but I think it really falls into the first group - it's niche is being acceptable to the Chinese government. For a time the Enciclopedia Libre [1] was out-competing the Spanish Wikipedia, but that didn't last. I can't really think of any other examples of successful competition to Wikipedia on the same ground. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enciclopedia_Libre_Universal_en_Espa%C3%B1ol On Mon, 5 Jan 2015, HJ Mitchell wrote: Competing with Wikipedia (replying to Fabian; sorry for breaking the threading) always struck me as being a bit like arguing with yourself. Wikipedia is far from flawless (as a concept, as a project, or as an encyclopaedia), but the whole point of it is to collect and distribute information for free. What's to compete *with*? Harry Mitchellhttp://enwp.org/User:HJ Phone: +44 (0) 7507 536971 Skype: harry_j_mitchell From: Gordon Joly To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Friday, 2 January 2015, 18:35 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] new book on Wikipedia On 02/01/15 16:04, Simon Knight wrote: Might be of interest. Indeedy! :-) Gordo ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeet survey
On Thu, 14 May 2015, Gordon Joly wrote: London Wikimeets date back to June 2004. And if anyone wants to see some youger looking regulars, there are photos from early meets 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/London_1 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Thryduulf/Wikimeets/London3 Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
[Wikimediauk-l] WikimediaUKblue mobile internet device
Hello all
I'm currently borrowing the white mifi mobile internet device, which
broadcasts the network name "WikimediaUKblue". Unfortunately I don't know
the password for it - it isn't the same as the black mifi I've used
previously. I've tried the obvious passwords ("wikipedia", "wikimediaUK",
etc) to no avail.
Does anyone here know the correct password?
Thanks
Chris
Chris McKenna
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www.sucs.org/~cmckenna
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but with the heart
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WikimediaUKblue mobile internet device
The password you suggested is the password for the black mifi, and the
first one I tried for this one. No joy unfortunately, but thank you.
Chris
On Tue, 8 Sep 2015, WereSpielChequers wrote:
I've sent what I remember being the password offlist, can I suggest any
other serious guesses go off list until Chris indicates on list that he has
it working.
On 8 September 2015 at 20:02, Chris McKenna wrote:
Hello all
I'm currently borrowing the white mifi mobile internet device, which
broadcasts the network name "WikimediaUKblue". Unfortunately I don't know
the password for it - it isn't the same as the black mifi I've used
previously. I've tried the obvious passwords ("wikipedia", "wikimediaUK",
etc) to no avail.
Does anyone here know the correct password?
Thanks
Chris
Chris McKenna
cmcke...@sucs.org
www.sucs.org/~cmckenna
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but with the heart
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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Wikipedia quietly censored by Internet Watch Foundation
Just for completeness, I'm on O2 broadband and I get the 404 trying to access the Virgin Killer article and image. Unfortunately as the account is not in my name, I don't think that I can make a complaint? The article is (currently) available via the google.co.uk cache, and a google.co.uk image search brings up ~13 copies of the image on the front page (along with 2 censored versions). There is a note though that one result has been removed, and reading the Chilling Effects link the complaint was about child pornography. There is of course no way to know whether the album artwork was the image in question, but it seems likely as the first restult unrelated to the album is on page 5, and that is releated to the band). Chris On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, David Gerard wrote: > I am not suggesting that WMUK do anything about this whatsoever. > > However, I do suggest that all readers of this list try the pages and > share the results they get (and their ISP). > > More specifically, if you're on any of: > > * Be/O2/Telefonica > * Virgin Media > * EasyNet/UK Online/Sky > * PlusNet > * Demon > * TalkTalk > > - then you need to try the link, and if it doesn't work, contact your > ISP and ask WTF. > > This is likely to hit the papers soon. BIG FUSS. We (the community and > the Foundation and everyone) need to know the precise parameters of > whatever's going on. > > > - d. > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: David Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2008/12/6 > Subject: Wikipedia quietly censored by Internet Watch Foundation > To: Open Rights Group open discussion list > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: Mike Godwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Cary Bass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > ... by transparent proxying on some ISPs, not others. > > Surmise is that it's because of the album cover on > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Killer (the page about the > Scorpions album "Virgin Killer") - some people can't acces the page. > The image is distasteful but not (AFAIK) actually illegal (yet). And > is also famous and encyclopedic in itself. > > Practical upshot is that every user on *some* ISPs has been put > through one of just two IPs. This means that vandal blocks have > widespread collateral damage. > > (I'm on Zen and I can get to the page and image.) > > The question now is: how do we find out what the hell is going on, and > who has done this? > > Somewhat confusing page about the matter from the admins' noticeboard, > where the admins try to work out wtf: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Major_UK_ISPs_reduced_to_using_2_IP_addresses > > > - d. > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > -- Chris McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Fwd: Wikipedia quietly censored by Internet WatchFoundation
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Oldak Quill wrote: > > The Internet Watch Foundation consulted with British law > enforcement before concluding that the picture could break the law, > she said." > As all things related to child pornography it seems that "guilty until proven innocent" (and even then sometimes still guilty) is the methodology in use here. Chris -- Chris McKenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] IWF does it again...
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Thomas Dalton wrote: > [The Internet Archve] > need to do something to minimise the risk of illegal images being > archived. Illegal according to whose defintion? The definition that applies currently, or the defintion that applied at the time the page was archived? AIUI the archive is hosted in the US, so why should they care about whether material is illegal in the UK? If they did they would also have to care about whether material is illegal China, Afghanistan, Germany, Papua New Guinea, etc, etc, etc. The new UK law on extreme porn has made/will make illegal a huge number of images that were not illegal previously - removing such images from archived versions of pages is implying they were illegal at the time, which they were not. Equally, when the Taliban were in power in Afghanistan all images of people were illegal. Should then all images of people be removed from all internet pages in the archive that might be accessed from Afghanistan? Or perhaps just those webpages that were archived during that period in Afghanistan's history? Also, how would you propose finding all the images that are illegal by whatever definition you choose? Remember that no only do you have to check every sight archived (a susbstantial percentage of those on the internet) but also every version of every site - for a busy site you're talking up to 20 versions per year, maybe more. Even if censorship of the archive were desirable (personnally I think it is anything but) I just cannot see how it is achievable. Chris -- Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
[Wikimediauk-l] Wikimediauk.org
Wikimediauk.org, the first hit on a google search for "Wikimedia UK" (with or without quotes) still refers to Wiki Educational Resources Ltd throughout, implies that one can still become a member / supporter of WER, that WER is the organisation with the license from the Wikimedia Foundation to trade as "Wikimedia UK" and use the Wikimedia Logo "and other devices". Obviously this is all out of date and now factually incorrect. Even if a new website for Wiki UK is not ready yet, the wikimediauk.org domain should point to the pages on Meta (or wherever the up-to-date information is) Also, I'd like to ask for an update on the legal status of WER. -- Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] An alternative type of meetup?
This sounds like something I'd be interested in, although not being based in London it would need arranging a while in advance for me to be able to make it. Chris On Mon, 12 Oct 2009, Michael Peel wrote: > Hi all, > > Would anyone be interested in trying a different type of wikimeet? > > The idea would be to meet at a museum (presuming that I can get one > interested in hosting this), and have a meet-up with both wikimedians > and also museum people present. People would bring along laptops (or > use provided computers) to collaboratively work on articles related > to the museum or its collections, potentially with the aim of getting > at least one of them to GA quality (possibly FA quality?) by the end > of the day. It's a way of bringing experts on the objects, and > experts on Wikipedia (who also have an interest in the objects), > together and doing something very constructive. > > It wouldn't be necessary to be a member - it would be open to all - > although people would probably need to sign up beforehand, and it > would likely be restricted to a certain number of people depending on > the capacity of the location (hence members would have priority). > > This would be similar to the Backstage Pass that WMAU have done with > the PowerHouse Museum. I guess that the most appropriate place to try > this would be a museum in London on a different weekend from the > regular Wikimeets. I mooted the idea with a couple of people > yesterday at the London wikimeet, and the response seemed positive. > > Obviously, before I start asking museums if they're interested, I > need to know whether sufficient numbers of people would be > interested. So please, reply to this email if you're interested > (either on the mailing list, or just to me if you want). > > Thanks, > Mike > > ___ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Public domain day
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009, Isabell Long wrote: >> The most interesting name I'm aware of this year is Howard Carter who >> created a lot of paintings and drawings of Egyptian archaeological >> artifacts. > > Oh, quite interesting then! > >> I'm trying to put together more names but I was wounder if >> it was something a press release could be built around? > > Good idea, yeah I think it could be too, though what else could be put in it? > I don't know who does the press releases here. Well there are over 1,300 biographies in Category:1939 deaths to have a look through. John Cassidy was a name that caught my eye as maybe worthwhile mentioning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cassidy_(artist) but I've not had more than a glance. Chrisy Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schools to get free access to online encylopedias"
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: >> > Not CCed since I have a UK point to make. Which is that government these > days have budgets to spend on website mass subscriptions for schools (as > here) or libraries. This doesn't get much scrutiny. > > This is something to research. I benefit through my library card in > Cambridge by having about 20 online subscriptions. I'm not ungrateful, > but this is taxpayers' money, and there is politics attached. Can we > find out, in the UK, which ministry is paying? Out of what budget? How > much do they spend? What arguments do we have of the type "this money is > propping up an older model, could be spent better"? > > There will be an election by May, and we know public spending is under > pressure. A position paper for WMUK would be good. > I'd suggest that some FoI requests to likely ministries/departments asking how much they spend annually on such subscriptions, and which budget it comes out of. I'd suggest the Home Office; Communities and Local Govt; Business, Innovation and Skills; Children and Schools; Culture, Media and Sport; Health; Wales and Scotland. Chris Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] "Schoolchildren told to avoidWikipedia" - Telegraph
On Sat, 9 Jan 2010, Charles Matthews wrote: > > The point (for the guide that Brian and I are apparently writing) is > that "empowerment" is a good buzzword, but there is a small, treacherous > area to explore from a teachers' point of view: accounts for minors > should not give personal details, so a "role account" for say, > Tynecastle High School, looks more appropriate. But there are > administrative reefs also, namely the deprecation of role accounts and > shared passwords in general. Something can be done in practical terms by > stating that the project has a fixed term, will be retired, and will > have its password changed by a school staff member. Would not it be perhaps better for the individual students to have accounts, but under teh control of the school. Perhaps based on their school pupil number (e.g. Tynecastle-091 Tynecastle-122) which means that attribution for good and bad edits could be given to the individual rather than the school. Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] - a reply and a suggestion on diversity in the membership basis
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011, David Gerard wrote: > By current standards, you're past it. > > (Sam Korn was on the en:wp arbcom at 16 ...) Getting off topic (sorry), but I've just been looking up age limits and things and in the most recent elections candidates were required to be at least 18. I've not looked at previous elections, but I haven't been able to find where that restriction came from. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Child_protection#Template_suggestion_-_User_current_age for a bit of background. Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Cambridge meetup 21 May
On Tue, 17 May 2011, Charles Matthews wrote: > > On the general situation: there are few meetups outside London in a > year. Meetups are a way of drawing those who "only" edit into other > things. I'd like to see WMUK give the running of more meetups maximum > support. > I'm fully in agreement with this. I wont be able to make the Cambridge meetup due to deadlines (I couldn't make one anywhere in the country), but I think we should be aiming for at least 6 non-London meetups in a year (one every other month). Particularly some that are not within commuting distance of London - not to disadvantage those of us based in the capital, but to advantage those who are not. Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimeets - best place to organise them online?
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011, Michael Peel wrote: > > although I would hope that everyone subscribed to this list would be > interested in joining WMUK (and if you're not already a member, I'd love to > hear why not...). Money. Having been unemployed for several years and now a student, money is not something I have in abundance. Chris Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org www.sucs.org/~cmckenna The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes, but with the heart Antoine de Saint Exupery ___ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediau...@wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org
