Bandwidth Limitation of VNC

2001-09-17 Thread Steven Venn

We are trying to use Win VNC to view maps & info via a remote terminal, with
this degree of complexity of information the update is very slow.
Our VNC client needs to run on a Compaq IPAQ which kind of rules out
TightVNC.
I have tried both our Wireless network and wired network, with the client
and server being the only devices on the network.
The findings as to VNC seeming to be band limited apply between an IPAQ and
server over a wireless network and also a Laptop and server over a wired
network.
I am confident that the hardware I am using is not the limitation.
I appreciate that VNC is designed to work well over low bandwidth
connections, however what I would like to know is, what is it that limits
the VNC software from making the best available use of the bandwidth
available. Our computers are connected via a 10MB network and yet the peak
bandwidth used by VNC is about 11K p/sec.
Also does anybody know how we can modify the software to make best use of
the bandwidth available to the software.
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Re: Bandwidth Limitation of VNC

2001-09-17 Thread Todd A. Jacobs

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Steven Venn wrote:

> Also does anybody know how we can modify the software to make best use
> of the bandwidth available to the software.

A lot has to do with the encoding method you choose. Are you using
"copyrect hextile" or something else? If the former, you may want to try
some of the other encodings (maybe even raw, if bandwidth really isn't the
issue) to see if you can get better performance with different--or
no--encoding.

Also, you might want to consider the color depth of your display. It
certainly takes less time to encode 8 bits than 24 or 32, although some
people claim 16 works best (I'm not sure that I completely understand why,
though).

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RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message

2001-09-17 Thread Antonio Gould

Hi Steve,

Thanks for the reply.  In answer to your questions:

I had vnc working this way by using application mode (although this doesn't
seem to work now).  Other than that, no.

The colours are set to 16 colours.  This is becuase the server is only using
the on-board graphics (as it never should have a monitor connected anyway)

Re: Password - The connection closed message only occurs after I have typed
in the correct password (If I type the wrong one it I get VNC authentication
failed).

Hope you can help!

Regards,

Antonio

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Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message


First question, have you got vnc working anywhere?
Next question, what is the depth set at, I understand 640x480 but 16 colours
16 bit true...?
next have you set the default password. start -> programs -> vnc ->
administrative tools -> show default settings.

Steve

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Hi all,

I know this is a common question but I've looked through all of the archives
without finding the answer to my problem.

I have VNC installed on a Windows 2000 machine at a 640x480 resolution.

When I try to log in from my Windows 98 machine I keep getting the message
"Connection Closed".  If I try to log in from a Macintosh I get the message
"T_DISCONNECT received on connection 2b58634".

If you need to know anything else about the setup, just ask and I'll get
straight back.

Thanks in advance,

Antonio
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Needing informations

2001-09-17 Thread stleroux

Hello,

  First question:

I am using your Fabulous product under a LAN using Windows NT4.

I wished to change the password on the servers I support, and so used the "Service 
helper" in which I made the change being logged as Administrator.

It appeared that after unlogging the remote servers, the password hadn't been changed.

I checked the registry and discovered that only the HKEY_CURENT_USER had the new 
password, but not HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, so I copied
it to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. Which worked all right, but I doubt that this is the easiest 
way to do and wonder why it didn't work on the first try.

Could you please help me understanding what the problem was, as I'll have to change 
this password regularly and would rather save some time doing it.



  Second question:

I noticed that connecting a remote client running an "Extra" session causes CPU use to 
go up to 100% , according to the informations found in the FAQs
 ,I tried

modifying the parameters in "Update Handling" with no success.

Is there any known reasons to that, or any incompatibility between VNC and EXTRA ?


Thanks for your advises.





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RE: Needing informations

2001-09-17 Thread Steve Palocz

Yes, Vnc is multi user (under terminal server, and stand alone). allowing
each user to have his own password when he/she is logged in.
So to change the system (at login or lock screen) you need to enter the
default password found in start -> programs -> vnc -> administrative
tools -> show default settings. This will show the default settings in hkey
local machine. If you double click the icon in the task tray, you will get
the current user settings (hkey current user). note in the title bar.

Steve

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Hello,

  First question:

I am using your Fabulous product under a LAN using Windows NT4.

I wished to change the password on the servers I support, and so used the
"Service helper" in which I made the change being logged as Administrator.

It appeared that after unlogging the remote servers, the password hadn't
been changed.

I checked the registry and discovered that only the HKEY_CURENT_USER had the
new password, but not HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, so I copied
it to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. Which worked all right, but I doubt that this is
the easiest way to do and wonder why it didn't work on the first try.

Could you please help me understanding what the problem was, as I'll have to
change this password regularly and would rather save some time doing it.



  Second question:

I noticed that connecting a remote client running an "Extra" session causes
CPU use to go up to 100% , according to the informations found in the FAQs
 ,I tried

modifying the parameters in "Update Handling" with no success.

Is there any known reasons to that, or any incompatibility between VNC and
EXTRA ?


Thanks for your advises.





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RE: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer"

2001-09-17 Thread Steve Palocz

Try setting the default password, also make sure the default resolution is
the same as the user.

Steve

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closed by peer"


F8 pops up the menu for me.  Send ctrl+alt+del does't do
anything visibly though.  I ended up trying TightVNC on the
Win2K machine.  It's snappier than vanilla VNC, but it has
the same trouble, in that vncviewer on my Solaris machine is
kicked off anytime the Win2K screen locks.  Does screen
password locking on a Win2K machine, as the server, with the
viewer running on Solaris work for anyone?  If no one has got
this to work, I'll give up and turn on/off password locking
the screen as need be.

Thanks

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:57:10 -0400 "Steve Palocz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> try hitting F8
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RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message

2001-09-17 Thread Steve Palocz

try setting your Colours to at least 256, 16 bit is the best.

Steve

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Hi Steve,

Thanks for the reply.  In answer to your questions:

I had vnc working this way by using application mode (although this doesn't
seem to work now).  Other than that, no.

The colours are set to 16 colours.  This is becuase the server is only using
the on-board graphics (as it never should have a monitor connected anyway)

Re: Password - The connection closed message only occurs after I have typed
in the correct password (If I type the wrong one it I get VNC authentication
failed).

Hope you can help!

Regards,

Antonio

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Subject: RE: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message


First question, have you got vnc working anywhere?
Next question, what is the depth set at, I understand 640x480 but 16 colours
16 bit true...?
next have you set the default password. start -> programs -> vnc ->
administrative tools -> show default settings.

Steve

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Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 11:20 AM
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Subject: Connection Closed, T_DISCONNECT message


Hi all,

I know this is a common question but I've looked through all of the archives
without finding the answer to my problem.

I have VNC installed on a Windows 2000 machine at a 640x480 resolution.

When I try to log in from my Windows 98 machine I keep getting the message
"Connection Closed".  If I try to log in from a Macintosh I get the message
"T_DISCONNECT received on connection 2b58634".

If you need to know anything else about the setup, just ask and I'll get
straight back.

Thanks in advance,

Antonio
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VNC Server for VMS

2001-09-17 Thread Bruno . ALAPETITE

Does exist a VNC server for VMS(6.2) or is somebody working on it , I did 
not find an answer in the archives.
Could somebody give me some informations about the job to do such a port 
(delay, difficulties, traps ...) ?
If somebody began the job in the past, is it posible to get it's sources ? 


Thanks by advance
0 
Bruno Alapetite
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RE: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC.

2001-09-17 Thread Glenn Lovitz

Mike,

I went through all the same hassle awhile back. The problem is the way CDE
works.  You log in through an Xserver and there is only one surefire way to
get the dtlogin sequence correct -- place an entry into
/etc/dt/config/Xservers.  Note: the path shown /usr/local/vnc is my vnc
install path and is shared by all workstations through NFS.  The end of my
files looks like (each display entry is on one long line) those between the
dashed lines (note that :0 is the primary display) --
/etc/dt/config/Xservers:
---
 :0  Local local_uid@none root /usr/openwin/bin/Xsun :0
 :5  Local local_uid@none root /bin/env
PATH=/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/usr/dt/bin:
/usr/local/vnc Xvnc :5 -httpd /usr/local/vnc/classes -geometry 1152x900 -cc
3 -depth 8 -rfbwait
12 -rfbauth /usr/local/vnc/.vnc/passwd -rfbport 5905 -httpport 5805 -fp
tcp/localhost:7100
-alwaysshared
---

To set up the default session:
1) create a ".vnc" directory under /usr/local/vnc --  this will all be owned
by root (group sys)
2) set your HOME environment variable to /usr/local/vnc
3) from /usr/local/vnc ==> ./vncpasswd
4) create /usr/local/vnc/.vnc/xstartup, with permissions 755, containing
single line: #!/bin/sh

Also make sure you start fs with inetd (/etc/inetd.conf -- I use only the
tpc6 line as it is enabled otherwise use tcp line -- DO NOT USE BOTH) with :

#fs stream   tcp   wait nobody /usr/openwin/lib/fs.auto   fs
fs  stream   tcp6  wait nobody /usr/openwin/lib/fs.auto   fs

Re-boot and you should get a correct dtlogin screen in your viewer or
browser.  Doing a "ps -ef" you should see an Xserver (dtgreet, etc) running
for (in my case) display 5!

Good luck,

Glenn

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Subject: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC.


I've been having a problem with VNC with Solaris 8 that has been driving me
CRAZY. Here is the scoop:

I'm trying to run CDE over VNC. I cannot get it to work.

The consistent error I always receive in startlog is:
/usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font -dt-interface
system-med
ium-r-normal-l*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
/usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font fixed

the startup continues, but no window manager load and if I try to start an
application  like dtpad, I get:

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Warning: Cannot convert string "Escape,_Key_Cancel" to type
VirtualBinding
Warning: Cannot convert string "Home,_Key_Begin" to type VirtualBinding
Warning: Cannot convert string "F1,_Key_Help" to type VirtualBinding
Warning: Cannot convert string "ShiftF10,_Key_Menu" to type
VirtualBinding
Warning: Cannot convert string "F10,Shift_Key_Menu" to type
VirtualBinding
Warning: Cannot convert string "KP_Enter,_Key_Execute" to type
VirtualBindi
ng
Warning: Cannot convert string "AltReturn,Alt_Key_KP_Enter" to type
Virtual
Binding
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface
system-medium-r-normal-s*-*-*-*-*-
*-*-*-*" to type FontSet
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
Warning:
Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING
Class: XmRendition
Conversion failed.  Cannot load font.

Warning:
Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING
Class: XmRendition
Conversion failed.  Cannot load font.

Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Warning: Cannot convert string "-dt-interface
user-medium-r-normal-s*-*-*-*-*-*-
*-*-*" to type FontSet
Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
Warning:
Name: FONTLIST_DEFAULT_TAG_STRING
Class: XmRendition
Conversion failed.  Cannot load font.
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I'm running Xsession & in ~/.vnc/xstartup:


according to xset, the font path is:
Font Path:

/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/F3bitmaps/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr
/o
penwin/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/openwin/l
ib/X
11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/,/usr/openwin/lib/X11/font
s/Xt
+/


I have tried running XFS and setting the font path to :tcp/localhost:7100.
Still no luck.


I'm out of ideas. Can anyone help?





Thanks in advance,
Mike
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Regarding Xvnc on solaris 8 on intel(x86)

2001-09-17 Thread Colin

Hi,

Currently, on the VNC web site on have VNC for solaris(SPARC) system.

I wandering is there any version for solaris 8 intel version.
I need them urgently. Could anyone who have compiled the package send an email
w/ them attach to me.

Many thanxs,
Colin
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RE: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message.

2001-09-17 Thread J. Eric Josephson

I've tried both as a service and as an application with the same results.  I
have also looked for any output on the server console and have not seen
any

Thanks for looking at this.

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Subject: Re: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message.

Are you running WinVNC as a service, or as an application.  Are any messages
displayed on the server machine's screen when you attempt to connect to it &
are disconnected?

Cheers,

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Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 5:27 PM
Subject: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message.


> I'm sorry for the intrusion.  I have been using WinVNC on a number of
> systems for some time now, with great luck.  I have tried to install it
and
> get it running on W2K server, SP2.  I keep getting the "Connection Closed"
> message after I properly authenticate.  My symptoms are exactly the same
as
> the snip below.  I have made all attempts to connect to a system that is
> currently logged in and the screen saver is not active.
>
> I was reading a thread in the mailing list archives for VNC about a Win2k
> Server and WinVNC "Connection Closed" problem.  I could not find a
> resolution in the archive.  Do you recall if there ever was a fix for the
> problem?  Thanks in advance for your time.
>
>  snip
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 6:57 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: WinVNC on Windows 2000 Server
>
> I know that this issue has been brought up in previous discussions.
> However, I was not able to find a suitable solution.
>
> I am able to install and connect to WinVNC on win2k Professional without
any
> problems. I CANNOT install (as a service) or connect to WinVNC on win2k
> Server. I get a 'connection closed' message as soon as submit my password.
> This happens even if I set WinVNC to accepting null passwords.
>
> --
>
> J. Eric Josephson
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>
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RE: Bandwidth Limitation of VNC

2001-09-17 Thread David Brodbeck

My own experience was that on a fast network, it worked best if the client
and server had the *same* color depth, I think because of the overhead of
converting from one to another.  (If this conversion happens in the client,
this may be particularly important for viewers that run on relatively slow
machines like the iPAQ.  I'm actually not sure where it happens.)

On a slow connection, the reduction in data sent at a lower bitrate can
overwhelm that difference, but the person who started this thread said
bandwidth wasn't the issue...

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Subject: Re: Bandwidth Limitation of VNC

Also, you might want to consider the color depth of your display. It
certainly takes less time to encode 8 bits than 24 or 32, although some
people claim 16 works best (I'm not sure that I completely understand why,
though).
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Gray Screen problem when connecting

2001-09-17 Thread John Muscarello

I'm running VNC on two NT servers.  The servers are not on the local
network.  One is New York and the other is in Philadelphia.  I connect via a
T1 and the internet.

When I try to view the Philly machine, the connection is successful but all
I see on the New York end is a gray screen and the message "please wait,
initital screen loading".  This message is displayed for awhile, then the
program exits when I move the mouse.  On the Philadelpia end, a person
sitting at the server can see the mouse pointer moving, so it seems like the
connection is successful, I just can't view the remote machine.

Any help would be appreciated.  Thank you. 
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RE: Ctrl + Esc in NT

2001-09-17 Thread John Clegg

I have no problem with that - I found it fairly self evident. However that
doesn't make it any less a pain to operate!

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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stefane Bridy
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> 
> 
> Well ...  it doesn't work for me, but the way to proceed is
> clearly indicated in the DOCUMENTATION on the VNC site, for each
> viewer type. It's just that the system menu or pop-up menu,
> depending on your platform doesn't state it clearly. For NT
> viewer, for example, the system menu item "Send control down" is
> confusing people. It means holding control down, so you just
> have to press Esc then,  (dont forget to release control with
> "Send control up" if you want to avoid problems for yourself,
> (or local user?) later on).
> 
> It's explained in the documentation, but people (I amongst them)
>  don't take time to read them through ...  so just go in
> http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc  and click on documentation
> on the left menu.
> 
> 
>  --- Mike Lazlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribis: > I have seen
> messages about Ctrl + Esc not working in WinVnc in
> > the NT 
> > OS. I have seen messages about people saying to add the Shift
> > key to 
> > this sequence. This will not work because this is the shortcut
> > for 
> > 'Windows Task Manager'. But I have just stumbled across the
> > key sequence 
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Re: Regarding Xvnc on solaris 8 on intel(x86)

2001-09-17 Thread Andreas Schmidt

Hello,

I have a compiled package of 3.3.3r1 (not 2!) on my homepage. 
You can get it at http://www.dus-spot.de/vnc/xvnc.tar.gz - included is 
a adapted vncserver-script, so that CDE can be used.

Bye, Andreas

> Hi,
> 
> Currently, on the VNC web site on have VNC for solaris(SPARC) system.
> 
> I wandering is there any version for solaris 8 intel version.
> I need them urgently. Could anyone who have compiled the package send an email
> w/ them attach to me.
> 
> Many thanxs,
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Re: vnc-list-digest V1 #1273

2001-09-17 Thread James ''Wez'' Weatherall

> I know that TridiaVNC has a registry setting to allow
> the "?" ipchain in the AuthHosts registry key to allow
> access to a machine if there is no response from the
> user(in case the user is not there and there is a need
> to control the machine)
>
> VNC from AT&T does not have this setting.  Does anyone
> know if its planned for a future release?

This is not true.  AT&T VNC is, in fact, where the AuthHosts and
QuerySetting features originate from.  TridiaVNC supports them by virtue of
being substantially derived from WinVNC.  I would be very interested to know
where you have found documentation to the contrary.

Cheers,

---
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AT&T Labs Cambridge
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Re: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer"

2001-09-17 Thread Kevin Cosgrove

I have a default password for VNC.  It doesn't matter whether
it matches my Win2K network password or not.  In neither case
will a vncviewer session survive Win2K asking for a password
after locking the Win2K screen.

Default resolution?  User resolution?  I'm not finding this.
If you're referring to the question in the FAQ about a screen
saver with a different default resolution causing my problem,
then I expect that this isn't the problem because the screen
saver itself will run just fine, unless I password protect it.

Thanks...

On 17 September 2001 at 9:20, "Steve Palocz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Try setting the default password, also make sure the default resolution is
the same as the user.

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VNC authentication/authorization

2001-09-17 Thread Bala Sambandam

Hello,

I'm in the process of making changes to the 3.3.9r2 source for winvnc
and the 3.3.3r2 source for the Java vncviewer to handle NT domain
authentication and authorization.  I had to create a new rfb protocol
with some minor changes.  I've called it 003.004 for now.  It's
backward compatible with older viewer's and should port easy enough to
any authentication scheme that supports usernames, passwords and
groups.

The way it works on NT is with 3 optional registry settings.  When
these settings are missing then it default back to the old scheme.

o AuthType
One of "VNC" for the old single password authentication style or "OS"
for OS level authentication and authorization.

o DefaultUser
A username (of the form  or \ on NT) to use when
older vncviewers connect since these can only supply a password.

o AuthRole
An OS group (of the form  or \ on NT) to use when
authorizing client sessions.  The user that a client session
authenticates with must be in this group.

I'm not updating the C/C++ vncviewer, just the Java vncviewer since
this is all I need for my requirements.

I've made a first pass on the server side changes.  I'm in the process
of updating the Java vncviewer.  I was wondering if once I finished
testing my changes whether there was a process for
submiting/integrating these back.  I lack forward compatibility since I
had to change the RFB.

thanks,
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RE: vnc-list-digest V1 #1273

2001-09-17 Thread David Brodbeck

I think the difference is in AT&T VNC, ? will only *reject* the connection
if the user doesn't respond.  TridiaVNC will let you configure it to either
accept or reject.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: vnc-list-digest V1 #1273


> I know that TridiaVNC has a registry setting to allow
> the "?" ipchain in the AuthHosts registry key to allow
> access to a machine if there is no response from the
> user(in case the user is not there and there is a need
> to control the machine)
>
> VNC from AT&T does not have this setting.  Does anyone
> know if its planned for a future release?

This is not true.  AT&T VNC is, in fact, where the AuthHosts and
QuerySetting features originate from.  TridiaVNC supports them by virtue of
being substantially derived from WinVNC.  I would be very interested to know
where you have found documentation to the contrary.

Cheers,

---
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AT&T Labs Cambridge
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SOLUTION - Re: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer"

2001-09-17 Thread Kevin Cosgrove

Got it working with TightVNC from a DOS window using "winvnc
-install", as suggest in the FAQ question 28.  Sorry to
bother the list with my saga.
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X server mix-up

2001-09-17 Thread Dor Juravski

Hello, I have configured a vnc-server (using inetd services) on my machine
and I am using a a viewer on a win2k system.
The unix-server is a digital-unix v 4.0F.

The problem is that when I open a session I see I have logged on an X
session of a DIFFERENT  computer on my local network. How can this be ? I am
not completely familiar with my machines but it may be some X configuration
or something ...

Thank you for your help
Dor
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Re: X server mix-up

2001-09-17 Thread Lee Allen

You probably have multiple Unix systems running 'xdm'.  You can disable xdm
on the 'other system' if you don't need it there... or modify the xdm config
files on each system to configure which clients (well, X servers) they are
responsible for.

-Lee Allen

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Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 2:31 PM
Subject: X server mix-up


> Hello, I have configured a vnc-server (using inetd services) on my machine
> and I am using a a viewer on a win2k system.
> The unix-server is a digital-unix v 4.0F.
>
> The problem is that when I open a session I see I have logged on an X
> session of a DIFFERENT  computer on my local network. How can this be ? I
am
> not completely familiar with my machines but it may be some X
configuration
> or something ...
>
> Thank you for your help
> Dor
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Re: Off Topic

2001-09-17 Thread Lee Allen

James Pifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> I know this forum has a lot of Linux experience. Can anyone suggest a good
> Linux forum? RedHat specific if possible? Hopefully somthing that has good
> membership and timely responses such as this one.

I don't know if you received any responses to this.  I participate in a
couple of Linux newsgroups (not mailing lists).  The first is general Linux
and has a large volume of postings; the second is RedHat specific and has a
much smaller volume.

comp.os.linux.misc
linux.redhat.misc

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RE: X server mix-up

2001-09-17 Thread Dor Juravski

How do I do that ? I mean - tell machine A to handle it's own xdm and not
machine B's xdm

If there is a hole in my unix knowledge it is the X servers and their
manipulations :(

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You probably have multiple Unix systems running 'xdm'.  You can disable xdm
on the 'other system' if you don't need it there... or modify the xdm config
files on each system to configure which clients (well, X servers) they are
responsible for.

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RE: exiting window manager doesn't stop vncviewer

2001-09-17 Thread Stephen Walton

I just tried -once and it doesn't help on either Linux/KDE or HP-UX/CDE.
Hitting Logout/exit/whatever causes some things to shut down but not Xvnc
itself.  There is something about how these window managers signal the X
server that they've exited which isn't handled correctly by Xvnc.  This is
a longstanding problem to which it would be nice to have a solution.

--
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California State University, Northridge
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On Fri, 14 Sep 2001, Steve Palocz wrote:

> On the server if using Xvnc add -once
> if using vncserver then find the cmd line and add one with -once.
>
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> Subject: exiting window manager doesn't stop vncviewer
>
> Then, when I stop the window manager, be it kde or twm, the session
> isn't properly closed, and the vncviewer isn't killed. I still can
> kill it in the console from which it started, with ctrl-c. It is
> possible that I am missing something, but I have no idea of what it
> could be.
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x0rfbserver

2001-09-17 Thread John Clegg

I have got VNC on Linux working quite well, but it doesn't quite do what I
want to do (plus it crashes KDE if I try and run it instead of twm, which is
truly horrible!)

I would love to install x0rfbserver on my (Mandrake 8) system, but I don't
yet know enough to work out how the hell to do it! Is there some kind person
could give me some pointers please? On or off list.

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Re: x0rfbserver

2001-09-17 Thread Ceri Hankey

I , too, have been trying to get kde to work with vnc and have come up with
the following conclusions...

1)kde will NOT permit the SAME  user to use more than ONE graphic
interface.
2)you can specify kde, SO LONG AS you are not already logged into the
system and using KDE!
3)I think that this has to do with the DCOP mechanism (whatever that
is) - because it seems to be ther that it crashes.
4)You MUST use => 24 bit colour for the VNC interface (8 or 16 bit just
do not work!)
5)If you want to make life easy for yourself, use WindowMaker for the
VNC connection and kde for your REAL connection - this works well for me and
I can even run most (though I have not done an exhaustive test)  KDE applics
under WindowMaker.

Regards

Ceri Hankey

PS once you have run wmaker.inst,  just replace the line 'exec twm' or 'exec
startKDE' with 'exec wmaker' in $HOME/.vnc/xstartup. What I have done is to
make a symbolic link in .vnc which points to xstartkde, xstartWM or
xstarttwm in the smae directory. These three files are all the same except
for the exec line.

Good luck!


- Original Message -
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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:36 AM
Subject: x0rfbserver


> I have got VNC on Linux working quite well, but it doesn't quite do what I
> want to do (plus it crashes KDE if I try and run it instead of twm, which
is
> truly horrible!)
>
> I would love to install x0rfbserver on my (Mandrake 8) system, but I don't
> yet know enough to work out how the hell to do it! Is there some kind
person
> could give me some pointers please? On or off list.
>
> John
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Bad Review of VNC at CNET

2001-09-17 Thread Greg Breland

I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today.

http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.3227892-1204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561

The review was so bad, that I feel it needs to be responded to to
correct the blantent errors and misinformation contained in it. I have
written a response to the review and would like your help checking that
I have all my facts in order and that I have crossed all my Is and doted
all my Ts. :)


http://www.mozillanews.org/vnc/cnet_response.php3


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Thanks,

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Re: Bad Review of VNC at CNET

2001-09-17 Thread James Pifer

Greg,

I'm with you . That review was very bad. It seemed as though the author had
blinders or was biased against VNC going into it.

One feature of VNC that I find I use a lot is the copying/pasting to the
clipboard. The fact that I can copy stuff from the machine I'm remote
controlling and and then paste on my local machine is very handy.

Maybe newer versions of the competitors products can do that, but I haven't
seen it.

Also being an open source software opens many other doors. In some ways it
can be negative, but in many others it's not. For example, there's a web
portal package called Stoneware (www.stone-ware.com) that someone has
written a very nice VNC hook for. You can log into your corporate web
portal, which you can do over SSL, and then it can proxy a VNC session to
your servers and desktops inside the network. Very slick.

Good luck with your response.

James

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:45 PM
Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET


> I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today.
>
>
http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.3227892-1
204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561
>
> The review was so bad, that I feel it needs to be responded to to
> correct the blantent errors and misinformation contained in it. I have
> written a response to the review and would like your help checking that
> I have all my facts in order and that I have crossed all my Is and doted
> all my Ts. :)
>
>
> http://www.mozillanews.org/vnc/cnet_response.php3
>
>
> Please email me with any additional information you think should be
> added or removed as well as any corrections.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Greg Breland
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RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET

2001-09-17 Thread Glenn Mabbutt

Slight correction: PcAnywhere version 8 can talk to ver. 9 and vice versa -
I do it at work all the time (if pca hasn't crashed previously ;).

I think it would be useful if you put an emphasis on the "open" nature of
VNC - a benefit that allows continuous and rapid improvement to the product,
as well as interesting and useful "unofficial" add-ons, like tight encoding,
the wall-paper disabling stuff, and even Rudi de Vos' recent adventures with
a Win2k VNC display driver.

Thanks,

Glenn

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Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET


I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today.

http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.3227892-1
204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561

The review was so bad, that I feel it needs to be responded to to
correct the blantent errors and misinformation contained in it. I have
written a response to the review and would like your help checking that
I have all my facts in order and that I have crossed all my Is and doted
all my Ts. :)


http://www.mozillanews.org/vnc/cnet_response.php3


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RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET

2001-09-17 Thread Andrew van der Stock

There are problems with the review, but we should take the valid
criticisms on board.

Documentation could be improved, particularly for first time users.
Dialog boxes could be better from a purist HCI point of view
Security can be made easier (particularly the hidden AuthHost stuff)
Localization could be done properly

But all of the above proves the value of open source. When someone has
an itch to improve things, they can.

Andrew

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Subject: RE: Bad Review of VNC at CNET


Slight correction: PcAnywhere version 8 can talk to ver. 9 and vice
versa - I do it at work all the time (if pca hasn't crashed previously
;).

I think it would be useful if you put an emphasis on the "open" nature
of VNC - a benefit that allows continuous and rapid improvement to the
product, as well as interesting and useful "unofficial" add-ons, like
tight encoding, the wall-paper disabling stuff, and even Rudi de Vos'
recent adventures with a Win2k VNC display driver.

Thanks,

Glenn

-Original Message-
From: Greg Breland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bad Review of VNC at CNET


I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today.

http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.32278
92-1
204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561

The review was so bad, that I feel it needs to be responded to to
correct the blantent errors and misinformation contained in it. I have
written a response to the review and would like your help checking that
I have all my facts in order and that I have crossed all my Is and doted
all my Ts. :)


http://www.mozillanews.org/vnc/cnet_response.php3


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Re: x0rfbserver

2001-09-17 Thread Stephen Walton

On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Ceri Hankey wrote:

> 1)kde will NOT permit the SAME  user to use more than ONE graphic
> interface.

One nice feature of CDE, at least on HP-UX, is that you can create
subdirectories of the .cde directory with names consisting of the machine
name, a colon, and the display name (mymachine:1, mymachine:2, etc.) and
CDE will then keep a separate saved desktop for each display.

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Re: Bad Review of VNC at CNET

2001-09-17 Thread Marius Zydyk

Yes, this is a pretty bad, one-sided review, seems like the author set out
from the beginning with an agenda. In case you're wondering, this is a
pretty typical software review, direct links to only one competing package
are a clear indication of something happening behind the scenes.

Here's a software review template:
- will this product receive a positive review?
  - yes:
- do we have incentives of any kind from the manufacturer?
  - yes:
* reprint suggested pr material. the real review (if there is one)
  will be found between the lines.
  - no:
* be sure to not make it look too good, provide lots of info on
  competing products. maybe mext time we'll get a free t-shirt.
  - no:
- do we have incentives of any kind from the manufacturer?
  - yes:
* hmm, make it humorous, provide more complaints about competing
  packages. mention the killer versions coming up rsn. the real
  review (if any) is between the lines.
  - no:
* make stuff up. provide links to more profitable publishers.
  fud.

I think it is clear where this review falls. It is interesting how 'issues'
are pointed out (having to know the ip is the best!), issues which exist in
competing products (how else do you connect with PCAnywhere? Voodoo? Magic
wand?)

That said, lack of (friendly) documentation is a real problem, took me a
couple of tries to figure out how to run VNC as a service, but this is
addressed with paid versions of VNC, which come complete with support.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today.
>
>http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.3227892-1204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561
>
>The review was so bad, that I feel it needs to be responded to to
>correct the blantent errors and misinformation contained in it. I have
>written a response to the review and would like your help checking that
>I have all my facts in order and that I have crossed all my Is and doted
>all my Ts. :)
>
>
>http://www.mozillanews.org/vnc/cnet_response.php3
>
>
>Please email me with any additional information you think should be
>added or removed as well as any corrections.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Greg Breland
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Re: Bad Review of VNC at CNET

2001-09-17 Thread Dave Warren

> I think it is clear where this review falls. It is interesting how
'issues'
> are pointed out (having to know the ip is the best!), issues which exist
in
> competing products (how else do you connect with PCAnywhere? Voodoo? Magic
> wand?)

Nope, PCAnywhere advertises that it's running.  I loaded it up on my cable
modem, and immediately saw a couple people in my node running PCAnywhere,
one without a password.  Handy feature.

But then, on my local area network VNC can connect to the computer
"systems1" just by typing "systems1", even though it's assigned a dynamic
IP.  Hm.  Magic.  Or just using DNS properly.  One of the two, anyway.



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Re: Bad Review of VNC at CNET

2001-09-17 Thread Dave Warren

Poor guy is just sore 'cause he doesn't know what a "service" is, couldn't
figure out the mailing list, and couldn't figure out how to install it, and
the official support is equal to the price.

Why should I pay $99 (Or whatever PCAnywhere is) for tech support I don't
need, and a GUI I don't want?

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> I read a very bad review of VNC on CNET today.
>
>
http://www.cnet.com/software/0-3227892-1205-7056561.html?tag=st.sw.3227892-1
204-7056561.rev.3227892-1205-7056561



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Re: Off Topic

2001-09-17 Thread Gary Stainburn

Hi James,

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On Friday 14 September 2001 8:42 pm, you wrote:
> I know this forum has a lot of Linux experience. Can anyone suggest a good
> Linux forum? RedHat specific if possible? Hopefully somthing that has good
> membership and timely responses such as this one.
>
> Thanks in Advance.
> James
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