ALT+PRINTSCREEN problem

[Andreas Nilsson]

There doesn't seem to be a way to perform ALT+PRINTSCREEN with the VNC
application.

In an application like this, I think it's important that "the whole keyboard
works"! Maybe I'll switch to PcAnywhere.

Andreas Nilsson,
System Development Engineer
 
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Measurement Technology, Electric Power
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Re: Win2K, VNC, ZoneAlarm

[Stefane Bridy]

For the batch file, try to put CALL before the zone alarm line,
as I remember that depending on the program started from the
batch file, then batch file is terminated, unless this command
was used.

So it'd be:

call "c:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe" -nopopup
"c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run


or maybe, in case of errors because of longnames, depending of
the configuration of your system:
call c:\Progra~1\ZoneAl~1\zoneal~1.exe -nopopup
"c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run

Hope it works ...

= Your problem was : ==
I created a batch file with two lines.. the first line running 
ZoneAlarm, 
the second running VNC... but when I run the batch file... after

running
ZoneAlarm,... it never returns to continue to run VNC. I'm 
probably missing
something very simple and basic.

The file is pretty straigthforward :

"c:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe" -nopopup
"c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run

Can someone please help me out?

Thanks in advance,


Andy


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Re: Ctrl + Esc in NT

[Stefane Bridy]

Well ...  it doesn't work for me, but the way to proceed is
clearly indicated in the DOCUMENTATION on the VNC site, for each
viewer type. It's just that the system menu or pop-up menu,
depending on your platform doesn't state it clearly. For NT
viewer, for example, the system menu item "Send control down" is
confusing people. It means holding control down, so you just
have to press Esc then,  (dont forget to release control with
"Send control up" if you want to avoid problems for yourself,
(or local user?) later on).

It's explained in the documentation, but people (I amongst them)
 don't take time to read them through ...  so just go in
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc  and click on documentation
on the left menu.


 --- Mike Lazlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribis: > I have seen
messages about Ctrl + Esc not working in WinVnc in
> the NT 
> OS. I have seen messages about people saying to add the Shift
> key to 
> this sequence. This will not work because this is the shortcut
> for 
> 'Windows Task Manager'. But I have just stumbled across the
> key sequence 
> of 'Alt + S' which seems to work on at least WinNT machines
> that I have 
> come across. If anyone is interested.
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WHY? HOW?

[Stefane Bridy]

Can anyone who knows how to read the program source files
investigate about the potential bug of "IdleTimeout" being
constantly reset (count down never ends when no input or refresh
request from VNC viewer) by the "Poll Full Screen option",
whereas for other poll options, it works fine and connection is
terminated after the desired time?   And if found, is it easy to
have it fixed?  When are new versions of VNC published?

Best regards


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Re: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer"

[Stefane Bridy]

3 answers below each question

 --- Kevin Cosgrove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribis: > Well that
explains it.  I have no "send ctrl+alt+del" in
> my
> right clicked task bar menu.  I have only Properties, Add
> New
> Client, Kill All Clients, About WinVNC, and Close WinVNC.


On 12 September 2001 at 13:14, "Ryan Casey" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> already explained it in :

Those are the options if you clicked on the icon for VNC Server 
in the System Tray.  Be sure you are clicking on the Task Bar
button for the Viewer's connection.  Alternatively, bring up VNC
Viewer, connect to the system, and right click in the Title Bar
for the window.  This should bring up a number of options,
including 'Send Ctl-Alt-Del'.


> I tried shift+ctrl+alt+del, but nothing happens.  I tried
> this on the remote Unix client and on the PC itself.  I
> tried
> this using all of the shift & del keys available on each
> keyboard.

OK, if you don't use the viewer on a Windows machine, the system
menu is not accessed the same, BUT everything is explained in
the documentation as I wrote in a previous email :

"Well ...  it doesn't work for me, but the way to proceed is
clearly indicated in the documentation on the VNC site, for each
viewer type. It's just that the system menu or pop-up menu,
depending on your platform doesn't state it clearly. For NT
viewer, for example, the system menu item "Send control down" is
confusing people. It means holding control down, so you just
have to press Esc then,  (dont forget to release control with
"Send control up" if you want to avoid problems for yourself,
(or local user?) later on).

It's explained in the documentation, but people (I amongst them)
 don't take time to read them through ...  so just go in
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc  and click on documentation
on the left menu."


> At this point, if I run a screen locker, like I want to do
> when leaving work for the night, then I have to be at the
> laptop keyboard in order to unlock the screen because a
> password protected Win2K screen kills the remote VNC
> viewer client.
> 
> Any more suggestions?

Yes :-)   I don't know for winVNC client on other platforms than
NT, but, for NT, in the DOCUMENTATION
(http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc), it's clearly explained
that if you just start it as apps (so started by clicking on it
or in start menu Startup group), it will just stop the program
as it does for all when you unlogg, but it shouldn't when you
make screen lock (are you sure you didn't unlog instead?).
That's why you have to install is as a SERVICE. You can do it in
start menu, VNC, Administrator tools, ...   for other platforms
or information, just read the DOCUMENTATION :-   I know,
it's easier to ask, but you'll learn about a lot of interesting
features by taking the time to read it through.

Have a good time reading, and please, someone look into my
UNdocumented question just the previous message I think.

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Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation

["Lesch, Jörg"]

Hi
I was wondering if it would be possible to add another option to the VNC
programm.
I'm administrating a small network and I want to install VNC on every
workstation. The problem is, I'm not allowed to do this unless VNC tells the
user, someone is connected every time I connect. I know the little symbol in
the sytemtray changes colors but it has to be something like a message box.
Everything else with VNC is great, I'm super happy with this usefull prog
and give the developers as much credits for their work as possible


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A common problem..?

[Mohan Ram]

G'Day,

I have my Ultra running vnc on 2.7,

I have the vncserver running, to access from remote sites. Starting the
vncserver on the Ultra from telnet sessions are okay, but when I exit the
telnet session, only a grey box appears on the remote machine...but the vnc
process seems to be running on the server...all my config files ( including
xstartup etc ) has not been changed.

Another curiosity, according to the vnc website, a non root user can start up
the vncserver if the /tmp/.X11-unix permissions are changed to 777, how do I
automate this during startup & lastly does anyone have a startup script to
fire up the vncserver during boot up??

Appreciate all the help..Mohan
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Bandwidth limitations

[Steven Venn]

We are trying to use Win VNC to view maps & info via a remote terminal, with
this degree of complexity of information the update is very slow.
What I would like to know is what is it that limits the VNC software from
making the best available use of the bandwidth available. Our computers are
connected via a 10MB network and yet the peak bandwidth used by VNC is about
11K p/sec.
Also does anybody know how we can modify the software to make best use of
the bandwidth available to the software.
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Re: Ctrl + Esc in NT

[Zoran Pantic]

Mike,

how would you then emulate Ctrl+Esc sequence?

Regards,

   Zoran



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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 2:52 PM
Subject: Ctrl + Esc in NT


> I have seen messages about Ctrl + Esc not working in WinVnc in the NT
> OS. I have seen messages about people saying to add the Shift key to
> this sequence. This will not work because this is the shortcut for
> 'Windows Task Manager'. But I have just stumbled across the key sequence
> of 'Alt + S' which seems to work on at least WinNT machines that I have
> come across. If anyone is interested.
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Re: Ctrl + Esc in NT

[Mike Lazlo]

'Alt + s' as a shortcut to clicking the 'Start' button in WinNT seems to 
only work if the 'Desktop' has focus. If an application is running and 
has focus, 'Alt + s' seems to no longer work!
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RE: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation

[Steve Palocz]

This is implemented,
Please see the documentation.

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:41 AM
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Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on
use rworkstation


Hi
I was wondering if it would be possible to add another option to the VNC
programm.
I'm administrating a small network and I want to install VNC on every
workstation. The problem is, I'm not allowed to do this unless VNC tells the
user, someone is connected every time I connect. I know the little symbol in
the sytemtray changes colors but it has to be something like a message box.
Everything else with VNC is great, I'm super happy with this usefull prog
and give the developers as much credits for their work as possible


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RE: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection closed by peer"

[Steve Palocz]

try hitting F8

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Cosgrove
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 5:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AW: password protected screensaver causes "connection
closed by peer"


The behavior here, on Solaris, is that shift+ctrl+alt+del
does nothing in the viewer.  Neither does ctrl+alt+del, nor
shift+alt+f4.  alt+f4 exits the viewer, as expected.

Sigh...

On 12 September 2001 at 16:36, "Steve Palocz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

Since you are on Unix (Solaris) use
Shift+Alt+Ctrl+Dele

This will send it to the client. but on my Sun box I just need to use
Ctrl+Alt+Dele as Solaris doesn't intercept this.

But on Solaris Alt+F4 will close the viewer so Shift+Alt+F4 will close the
window in the viewer.

Hope this helps.

Steve
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re: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!?

[Eric Carlson]

  I noticed that the VNC Viewer 3.3.3r9 is very slow if connecting from
a Windows 98/ME machine to a Windows NT 4.0 server, but is fine from a
Win2K machine.

  I think the VNC Viewer has issues with Windows 98/ME because it seems
to slow down the whole computer, and I've tried it on at least two
vastly different computers.

  One computer was a Toshiba laptop P-III/500 with 196.Meg RAM and
Windows 98, and the other was a Compaq Presario desktop Celeron/633 with
320.Meg RAM and WinME. After installing Windows 2000 Pro on both of
these, the VNC Viewer is much faster, and the other apps don't slow down
when I am running VNC Viewer.

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Re: WinVNC and W2K Server "Connectino Closed" message.

[James ''Wez'' Weatherall]

> I feel silly asking, but for debug mode, what string value do I have to
add
> and is it in HKLU or HKLM?


The keys to use are described in the online documentation.  The debug keys
are Machine-Local settings, i.e. HKLM.

Cheers,

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RE: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!?

[David Brodbeck]

Interesting.  I haven't noticed any excessive slowdowns under Windows 98 or
Windows 95, on my 900 MHz AMD Athalon or on my 75 MHz Toshiba laptop (though
the small screen on the latter makes using VNC a little tedious sometimes.)
I wonder if there are particular options you have to select for things to
slow down?

-Original Message-
From: Eric Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:26 AM
To: VNC List
Subject: re: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!?


  I noticed that the VNC Viewer 3.3.3r9 is very slow if connecting from
a Windows 98/ME machine to a Windows NT 4.0 server, but is fine from a
Win2K machine.

  I think the VNC Viewer has issues with Windows 98/ME because it seems
to slow down the whole computer, and I've tried it on at least two
vastly different computers.

  One computer was a Toshiba laptop P-III/500 with 196.Meg RAM and
Windows 98, and the other was a Compaq Presario desktop Celeron/633 with
320.Meg RAM and WinME. After installing Windows 2000 Pro on both of
these, the VNC Viewer is much faster, and the other apps don't slow down
when I am running VNC Viewer.

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RE: Bandwidth limitations

[David Brodbeck]

Have you tried TightVNC?  In particular, you may find the JPEG compression
helpful.  See http://vnc-tight.sourceforge.net/

-Original Message-
From: Steven Venn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bandwidth limitations


We are trying to use Win VNC to view maps & info via a remote terminal, with
this degree of complexity of information the update is very slow.
What I would like to know is what is it that limits the VNC software from
making the best available use of the bandwidth available. Our computers are
connected via a 10MB network and yet the peak bandwidth used by VNC is about
11K p/sec.
Also does anybody know how we can modify the software to make best use of
the bandwidth available to the software.
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RE: Bandwidth limitations

[David Brodbeck]

Oh, another thought -- is it just VNC that's slow, or is all network
traffic?  Make sure you don't have a network problem, like a mismatched
duplex setting or bad cable, that's causing excessive collisions.

-Original Message-
From: Steven Venn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 6:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bandwidth limitations


We are trying to use Win VNC to view maps & info via a remote terminal, with
this degree of complexity of information the update is very slow.
What I would like to know is what is it that limits the VNC software from
making the best available use of the bandwidth available. Our computers are
connected via a 10MB network and yet the peak bandwidth used by VNC is about
11K p/sec.
Also does anybody know how we can modify the software to make best use of
the bandwidth available to the software.
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AW: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation

["Lesch, Jörg"]

thanks for the hint.

-Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-
Von: Steve Palocz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 13. September 2001 15:01
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: RE: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems
on use rworkstation

This is implemented,
Please see the documentation.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lesch, Jvrg
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:41 AM
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Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on
use rworkstation


Hi
I was wondering if it would be possible to add another option to the VNC
programm.
I'm administrating a small network and I want to install VNC on every
workstation. The problem is, I'm not allowed to do this unless VNC tells the
user, someone is connected every time I connect. I know the little symbol in
the sytemtray changes colors but it has to be something like a message box.
Everything else with VNC is great, I'm super happy with this usefull prog
and give the developers as much credits for their work as possible


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re: VNC Problem

[Eric Carlson]

Turn off smooth scrolling in IE, or set "poll full screen" in VNC. Some
other Windows utilities also don't refresh well unless you set "poll
full screen", but unfortunately it slows down the VNC experience.

- Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/

> If I open an IE browser window and access a 
> site and do scrolling ( Not very fast ) after 
> sometime the browser window does not display 
> properly. Most of the stuff from previous
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re: version 3.3.3r9

[Eric Carlson]

  You also have to set the default password in r9.

  When you installed it and set a password, it was only the user
password. You have to go to "Start/Programs/VNC/Administrative
Tools/Show Default Settings" to set the default password.

  If you ever change the VNC password in 3.3.3r9, make sure you change
the user password (for each user if there is more than one), and the
default password.

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.vnc

[Mark . Reeder]

Is there any way to specify where to place this apart from the default ~ ?

e.g. to allow for different vncserver instances started from the same Unix user.

Mark



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RE: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation

[Steve Palocz]

If you don't want to manually edit the registry
then check out the tight version as there is an advanced option.
www.tightvnc.com

Steve

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on use rworkstation


thanks for the hint.

-Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-
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Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 13. September 2001 15:01
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on use rworkstation

This is implemented,
Please see the documentation.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:41 AM
To: 'VNC Mailing List'
Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on
use rworkstation


Hi
I was wondering if it would be possible to add another option to the VNC
programm.
I'm administrating a small network and I want to install VNC on every
workstation. The problem is, I'm not allowed to do this unless VNC tells the
user, someone is connected every time I connect. I know the little symbol in
the sytemtray changes colors but it has to be something like a message box.
Everything else with VNC is great, I'm super happy with this usefull prog
and give the developers as much credits for their work as possible


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Re: .vnc

[Rui Ping Shi]

Hallo,

  I think u can start any number of vncserver indepedent on .vnc. The only thing u
need to know is the server number.

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> Is there any way to specify where to place this apart from the default ~ ?
>
> e.g. to allow for different vncserver instances started from the same Unix user.
>
> Mark
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Further: Bandwidth Limitations

[Steven Venn]

I also failed to mention that our VNC client needs to run on a Compaq IPAQ
which kind of rules out TightVNC.
I have tried both our Wireless network and wired network, with the client
and server being the only devices on the network.
The findings as to VNC seeming to be band limited apply between and IPAQ and
server over a wireless network and also a Laptop and server over a wired
network.
I am confident that the hardware I am using is not the limitation.

(Thanks to those who have replied so far)


We are trying to use Win VNC to view maps & info via a remote terminal, with
this degree of complexity of information the update is very slow.
What I would like to know is what is it that limits the VNC software from
making the best available use of the bandwidth available. Our computers are
connected via a 10MB network and yet the peak bandwidth used by VNC is about
11K p/sec.
Also does anybody know how we can modify the software to make best use of
the bandwidth available to the software.
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re: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!?

[Eric Carlson]

  Maybe it conflicts with one of the Windows Updates, or some other app
I have installed on the systems, but the problem was fixed by upgrading
to Win2k.

  There were a few things in common with the two systems. They both
have: all the latest "Windows Updates" (no betas), Netscape 4.78,
ZoneAlarm, IE 5.x, 3Com NICS (one PCMCIA, one PCI), with current
drivers, Office 2000 Pro SP1, and some other stuff. The video cards are
obviously different, though they are both running at 1024x768x16-bit.

  They are on completely seperate LANs.

- Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/

> Interesting. I haven't noticed any excessive slowdowns under Windows 98 or Windows 
>95, on my 900 MHz AMD Athalon or on my 75 MHz Toshiba laptop (though the small screen 
>on the latter makes using VNC a little tedious sometimes.) I wonder if there are 
>particular options you have to select for things to slow down?
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Re: .vnc

[Mark . Reeder]

On 13/09/2001 15:30:02 RUI PING SHI wrote:
> Hallo,
>
>   I think u can start any number of vncserver indepedent on .vnc. The only
> thing u need to know is the server number.

Indeed, I have been doing so. But now I want to have separate environments
and vncserver passwords. The Password is encrypted in ~/.vnc/passwd.

I want to do this without creating a bunch of new Unix users.

rgds, Mark





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Re: .vnc

[Tim Waugh]

On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 04:55:14PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Indeed, I have been doing so. But now I want to have separate environments
> and vncserver passwords. The Password is encrypted in ~/.vnc/passwd.
>
> I want to do this without creating a bunch of new Unix users.

The way to do this is to make copies of the /usr/bin/vncserver script
with different names, one per environment, and alter the 'vncUserDir'
line in each.

Tim.
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RE: VNC Problem

[Habermann, David (DA)]

Rather than slow down my entire VNC experience, when using applications that
behave this way I make frequent use of the "Request Screen Refresh"
functionality by right-clicking on the VNC Viewer window icon in the task
bar.  I'll try the "smooth scrolling" thing for IE; I've also found that
MS/Outlook has this offensive behavior as well.

David Habermann

- Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/

> If I open an IE browser window and access a 
> site and do scrolling ( Not very fast ) after 
> sometime the browser window does not display 
> properly. Most of the stuff from previous
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Re: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use rworkstation

[Jonathan Maton]

I wrote a small modification to WinVNC that displays a popup box on the
server's screen, indicating:
  "A VNC has been authenticated from .  Click OK to allow,
REJECT to deny.  This message will expire in  seconds, allowing the
connection automatically."

This occurs after the vncviewer has already been prompted for and provided
the correct password.  The viewer sits on hold for a number of seconds (8 in
my setup) while the server workstation has a chance to allow/deny the
connection.  If the timer expires, the connection is allowed automatically
(useful for unmanned stations.)

If you would like a copy of this (source and/or executable) please let me
know.

--
Jonathan Maton, Development Team
Viztek, Inc.

makers of the Onyx-RAD suite of medical software
(teleradiology, PACS, and DICOM)
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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:40 AM
Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on use
rworkstation


> Hi
> I was wondering if it would be possible to add another option to the VNC
> programm.
> I'm administrating a small network and I want to install VNC on every
> workstation. The problem is, I'm not allowed to do this unless VNC tells
the
> user, someone is connected every time I connect. I know the little symbol
in
> the sytemtray changes colors but it has to be something like a message
box.
> Everything else with VNC is great, I'm super happy with this usefull prog
> and give the developers as much credits for their work as possible
>
>
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vncviewer not starting

[Jacob Killian]

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Hello-

I've tried searching for this, to no avail.

I've seen a reference to this problem on the web site docs, but am too 
ignorant to understand the suggestions, or the suggestions have not solved 
the problem.

The problem:

[[Win98 sshclient]]-[[Win2K sshd]]

[[Win98 vncviewer 127.0.0.1:1]] -ssh tunnel-[[Win2K vncserver connect at
127.0.0.1:0]]

I'm using tunnelier as the ssh client on the Win98 box.
WinSSHD on the Win2K box.

The ssh session completes successfully, and I'm able to tunnel other 
protocols, w/o a problem.

When I go to start the vncviewer on the Win98 box (hextile, copyrect, 8-bit 
pixels), the ssh client and server logs show the tunnel created successfully, 
but the vncviewer never pops up the password prompt!  The vncviewer shows up 
in the Win98 task manager, but nothing ever happens.  I am able to duplicate 
this using multiple clients.

I have tried adding a password to the Windows logon on the Win98 box, per the 
suggestion at:



To no avail.

I've also tried playing with the "Service Helper", but it doesn't help, and 
doesn't seem to do much.

Any suggestions?

I'd much rather not have to use WinXX, but such is life...

Thank you!

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PGTC Internet

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501-846-7245


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Such a waste of time
You could get paid for just such a crime
There's only money
There's only fame
When you play
The vandal's game
And they're gratin' in 
The Goodnight holler
To get a piece of the real estate dollar
One million years
Of the master's landscape
Gone with a pen stroke smile and a handshake
Oh me oh my it's gone it's gone it's gone

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Re: Compatibility

[Ceri Hankey]

Golly!!

How many computers do have in your house???

(Sorry)

Ceri Hankey

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Subject: Re: Compatibility


> I just answered my own question. After several attempts and many
> mistakes I was able to get VNC and Terminal Services running on the same
> machine. The "Remote Control" effect I was looking for now works. I can
> now play my MP3's which are on the server in the basement on my stereo
> in the living room, and control the play list from any computer in the
> house.
>  
> GOD I love VNC!
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Fwd: vncviewer not starting -- more info

[Jacob Killian]

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Oh, I forgot to mention that the vncviewer connects w/o problems if I don't 
tunnel through ssh.  However, this is going to be useless to me if I can't 
get it to tunnel.

Thanks again!

Jacob

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Hello-

I've tried searching for this, to no avail.

I've seen a reference to this problem on the web site docs, but am too 
ignorant to understand the suggestions, or the suggestions have not solved 
the problem.

The problem:

[[Win98 sshclient]]-[[Win2K sshd]]

[[Win98 vncviewer 127.0.0.1:1]] -ssh tunnel-[[Win2K vncserver connect at
127.0.0.1:0]]

I'm using tunnelier as the ssh client on the Win98 box.
WinSSHD on the Win2K box.

The ssh session completes successfully, and I'm able to tunnel other 
protocols, w/o a problem.

When I go to start the vncviewer on the Win98 box (hextile, copyrect, 8-bit 
pixels), the ssh client and server logs show the tunnel created successfully, 
but the vncviewer never pops up the password prompt!  The vncviewer shows up 
in the Win98 task manager, but nothing ever happens.  I am able to duplicate 
this using multiple clients.

I have tried adding a password to the Windows logon on the Win98 box, per the 
suggestion at:



To no avail.

I've also tried playing with the "Service Helper", but it doesn't help, and 
doesn't seem to do much.

Any suggestions?

I'd much rather not have to use WinXX, but such is life...

Thank you!

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System Administrator
PGTC Internet

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Such a waste of time
You could get paid for just such a crime
There's only money
There's only fame
When you play
The vandal's game
And they're gratin' in 
The Goodnight holler
To get a piece of the real estate dollar
One million years
Of the master's landscape
Gone with a pen stroke smile and a handshake
Oh me oh my it's gone it's gone it's gone

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RE: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems o n use rworkstation

[Lorenzo Manuel]

I'm interested on this also. I have searched the site's documentation and
have not found any information about this. If you know what needs to be
edited in the registry, can you pass it along? It would be greatfully
appreciated.

Thanks,
Manny

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If you don't want to manually edit the registry
then check out the tight version as there is an advanced option.
www.tightvnc.com

Steve

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thanks for the hint.

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This is implemented,
Please see the documentation.

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Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 4:41 AM
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Subject: Using VNC as an remote controle utility to solve problems on
use rworkstation


Hi
I was wondering if it would be possible to add another option to the VNC
programm.
I'm administrating a small network and I want to install VNC on every
workstation. The problem is, I'm not allowed to do this unless VNC tells the
user, someone is connected every time I connect. I know the little symbol in
the sytemtray changes colors but it has to be something like a message box.
Everything else with VNC is great, I'm super happy with this usefull prog
and give the developers as much credits for their work as possible


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Speeding up and reducing traffic with fully working video driver

[De Vos Rudi]

HI,

Finaly i'm getting some good result with  the driver. (only W2K)
Winvnc don't need the message hooking anymore (except mouse).
-polling modes are no langer needed to get screen updates.
-scrolling and moving regions are well detected and most of the data can
be passed as copyrects



There is still work to do on the the winvnc server site.
 -James 'Wez' Weatherall notified me to look at the code from Xvnc and
RDP2VNC to reduce update
with copyrects. Winvnc send only the biggest copyrect , need to be
changed
-hookdll should only check mouse events

driver+winvncserver can be downloaded for testing
(winvnc server is build with the source from tridia "more debugs build
in")
file: winvncdrv.zip
http://services.simac.be/vnc/single/source

changes after betadrv
-copyrects are send 1 by 1 and verified with the normal region scan.
-bitblits are copied to the backbuffer, not scanned
-scan and no scan regions are subtract, no double rects anymore
-added back mouse hooking


Please test and send bugs or suggestions back.

Groeten
Rudi
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Re: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!?

[Muhamad Alturkistany]

I don't think it is an issue of Windows 98/ME or Windows 2000.

I found that Java VNC viewer (when using Microsoft Virtual Machine) is
faster
than the native Windows (Win 2000) viewer. This is very noticable over DSL
connection to Xvnc Unix server.

Also, I noticed this over  LAN (10 Mbps) but to lesser degree.
This not logical since the Java viewer incure the overhead of going through
the Java Virtual Machine. While Windows VNC viewer does not incure this
overhead and should be a lot faster. My analysis is that the Windows VNC
viewer
is not optimized specially its use of threads.

Alturkistany


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>   I noticed that the VNC Viewer 3.3.3r9 is very slow if connecting from
> a Windows 98/ME machine to a Windows NT 4.0 server, but is fine from a
> Win2K machine.
>
>   I think the VNC Viewer has issues with Windows 98/ME because it seems
> to slow down the whole computer, and I've tried it on at least two
> vastly different computers.
>
>   One computer was a Toshiba laptop P-III/500 with 196.Meg RAM and
> Windows 98, and the other was a Compaq Presario desktop Celeron/633 with
> 320.Meg RAM and WinME. After installing Windows 2000 Pro on both of
> these, the VNC Viewer is much faster, and the other apps don't slow down
> when I am running VNC Viewer.
>
> - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/
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Re: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC (Running VNC on Solaris)

[Mohan Ram]

G'Day,

I've done exactly as you have written, actually I've been experimenting on
the Xvnc-50. From a windows 98 client to the Ultra, all I see is on my
/var/adm is "vnc-640x480x8[4694] from xx.xx.xx.xx 1410", but nothing pops up
on the windows 98 machine

Regards
Mohan
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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 22:29
Subject: RE: Massive unanswerable problem with CDE & VNC (Running VNC on
Solaris)


> I've been able to run VNC on Solaris 2.6, 7, and 8 on Sparc and Intel
> platforms just fine.
>
> Here are instructions on how to configure VNC to run on Solaris thru
inetd:
> Assumptions:
> a) VNC binaries have been successfully created and placed in
/usr/local/vnc
> directory.
> b) root access to machine to be able to edit services and inetd.conf
files.
> c) Support 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768 @ 256 color depth (change it
according
> to your preference)
> d) Ports 5950, 5951, 5952 are free (change it according to your
preference).
> e) Access control disabled (no VNC password is asked prior to connecting).
> Remove -ac switch if you wish access control enabled.
> f) No shared sessions allowed.  Remove -nevershared switch to allow shared
> sessions.
> g) When a user disconnects his VNC connection, terminate the X session.
> Remove -once switch to allow continuation of sessions (not recommended for
> security!).
>
> 1. Append the following lines to your /etc/inet/services file:
>
> # VNC Server
> vnc-640x480x8 5950/tcp
> vnc-800x600x8 5951/tcp
> vnc-1024x768x8 5952/tcp
>
> 2. Append the following lines to your /etc/inet/inetd.conf file:
>
> # VNC Server
> vnc-640x480x8 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc-50 Xvnc
> vnc-800x600x8 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc-51 Xvnc
> vnc-1024x768x8 stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc-52 Xvnc
>
> 3. Create these three script files and put them in /usr/local/vnc:
> Xvnc-50
> ===
> #!/bin/sh
> /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc -inetd -query localhost -once -fp
> tcp/localhost:7100 -geometry 640x480 -depth 8 -ac -nevershared
>
> Xvnc-51
> ===
> #!/bin/sh
> /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc -inetd -query localhost -once -fp
> tcp/localhost:7100 -geometry 800x600 -depth 8 -ac -nevershared
>
> Xvnc-52
> ===
> #!/bin/sh
> /usr/local/vnc/Xvnc -inetd -query localhost -once -fp
> tcp/localhost:7100 -geometry 1024x768 -depth 8 -ac -nevershared
>
>
> Note: Each script file is only 2 lines long.  The second line of text is
> just too long to fit in the same line, but it should be in the same line.
>
>
> 4. Issue these commands to force inetd to re-read the new configuration
(or
> reboot machine):
> ps -ef |grep inetd
> kill -1 PID
>
> Note: The first command will give you the process ID (PID) of inetd.  The
> second command will issue a SIGHUP on the inetd process, where PID is the
> process ID from the first command.
>
> 5. Use a VNC client and point it to the machine's IP address (or hostname)
> and specify the desired port.
> Example: myserver:5951 (will connect to machine at 800x600 resolution)
>
> Done.
>
>
> > I've been having a problem with VNC with Solaris 8 that has been
> > driving me
> > CRAZY. Here is the scoop:
> >
> > I'm trying to run CDE over VNC. I cannot get it to work.
> >
> > The consistent error I always receive in startlog is:
> > /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font -dt-interface
> > system-med
> > ium-r-normal-l*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
> > /usr/dt/bin/dthello: display unix:1.0 doesn't know font fixed
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Re: Win2K, VNC, ZoneAlarm

[Andy Woo]

Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it. Same thing happens... 
ZoneALarm starts... but the next command is never executed and
it's like it's waiting for the application to finish before proceeding
onto the next line... so the batch file is 'suspended'.

I basically have to kill the window as even the ol' ctrl-C doesn't
kill the batch file.

Long names weren't an issue. I'm running Win2K with NTFS.

Andy

Stefane Bridy wrote:
> 
> For the batch file, try to put CALL before the zone alarm line,
> as I remember that depending on the program started from the
> batch file, then batch file is terminated, unless this command
> was used.
> 
> So it'd be:
> 
> call "c:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe" -nopopup
> "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run
> 
> or maybe, in case of errors because of longnames, depending of
> the configuration of your system:
> call c:\Progra~1\ZoneAl~1\zoneal~1.exe -nopopup
> "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run
> 
> Hope it works ...
> 
> = Your problem was : ==
> I created a batch file with two lines.. the first line running
> ZoneAlarm,
> the second running VNC... but when I run the batch file... after
> 
> running
> ZoneAlarm,... it never returns to continue to run VNC. I'm
> probably missing
> something very simple and basic.
> 
> The file is pretty straigthforward :
> 
> "c:\Program Files\ZoneAlarm\zonealarm.exe" -nopopup
> "c:\Program Files\ORL\VNC\WinVNC.exe" -run
> 
> Can someone please help me out?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Andy
> 
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Re: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!?

[Marius Zydyk]

The Java viewer reduces the display to 256 colours, presumably at the server
(what's the point of sending over all that extra colour data if you're just
gonna discard it). Now, I don't know what proportion of the data stream is
colour info, but this could account for some of the speed up. Another
possibility is that the Java viewer uses more optimized drawing routines,
which just makes the display appear more responsive.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I don't think it is an issue of Windows 98/ME or Windows 2000.
>
>I found that Java VNC viewer (when using Microsoft Virtual Machine) is
>faster
>than the native Windows (Win 2000) viewer. This is very noticable over
>DSL
>connection to Xvnc Unix server.
>
>Also, I noticed this over  LAN (10 Mbps) but to lesser degree.
>This not logical since the Java viewer incure the overhead of going
>through
>the Java Virtual Machine. While Windows VNC viewer does not incure this
>overhead and should be a lot faster. My analysis is that the Windows VNC
>viewer
>is not optimized specially its use of threads.
>
>Alturkistany
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Eric Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "VNC List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:26 AM
>Subject: re: Java viewer is faster than native Windows Viewer!?
>
>
>>   I noticed that the VNC Viewer 3.3.3r9 is very slow if connecting from
>> a Windows 98/ME machine to a Windows NT 4.0 server, but is fine from a
>> Win2K machine.
>>
>>   I think the VNC Viewer has issues with Windows 98/ME because it seems
>> to slow down the whole computer, and I've tried it on at least two
>> vastly different computers.
>>
>>   One computer was a Toshiba laptop P-III/500 with 196.Meg RAM and
>> Windows 98, and the other was a Compaq Presario desktop Celeron/633
>with
>> 320.Meg RAM and WinME. After installing Windows 2000 Pro on both of
>> these, the VNC Viewer is much faster, and the other apps don't slow
>down
>> when I am running VNC Viewer.
>>
>> - Eric, http://www.InvisibleRobot.com/
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