making a tunnel for VNC

2001-06-05 Thread Harrison

Hello all,  i'm pretty new at the whole routing and networking thing..
I recently set up a Cayman 3220 DSL router and i'm trying to make a
tunnel so that i can connect to vnc and administer the Server from home.
But i've been trying to make this thing work and it doesn't seem to come
through..  i made an external port 58 to connect to the internal 5800
port on the VNC server. it partly seems to work.  when i try and connect
to it through Netscape it says the applet is running...but nothing shows
up.

Anyone have any clue on how i can fix this?

~Harrison
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Peter Scantland is out of the office.

2001-06-05 Thread PScantland

I will be out of the office starting  06/04/2001 and will not return until
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Re: making a tunnel for VNC

2001-06-05 Thread Dino

I believe you need port 5900 to be forwarded from the server to the client
as well as from the client to the server. (Assuming you are using screen 0,
as it appears you are, being as 5800 partially works).

- Dino

Harrison wrote:

> Hello all,  i'm pretty new at the whole routing and networking thing..
> I recently set up a Cayman 3220 DSL router and i'm trying to make a
> tunnel so that i can connect to vnc and administer the Server from home.
> But i've been trying to make this thing work and it doesn't seem to come
> through..  i made an external port 58 to connect to the internal 5800
> port on the VNC server. it partly seems to work.  when i try and connect
> to it through Netscape it says the applet is running...but nothing shows
> up.
>
> Anyone have any clue on how i can fix this?
>
> ~Harrison
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RE: Peter Scantland is out of the office.

2001-06-05 Thread Richard Spaven

VNC does have some strange problems!

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[patch] Imakefile fix

2001-06-05 Thread Tim Waugh

With XFree86 4.1.0 installed, Xvnc needs this patch to build.

Tim.
*/

--- vnc_unixsrc/vncviewer/Imakefile.noman   Tue Jun  5 13:13:27 2001
+++ vnc_unixsrc/vncviewer/Imakefile Tue Jun  5 13:13:34 2001
@@ -40,4 +40,4 @@
 
 OBJS = $(SRCS:.c=.o)
 
-ComplexProgramTarget(vncviewer)
+ComplexProgramTargetNoMan(vncviewer)
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Re: making a tunnel for VNC

2001-06-05 Thread mfpchelp

Go into the  cayman's pinhole setup and list the ip address you want to foward ports 
to tcp 5800 and udp 5900 I hope this helps.

Mario
PCH Technologies


On Tue, 05 June 2001, Dino wrote:

> 
> I believe you need port 5900 to be forwarded from the server to the client
> as well as from the client to the server. (Assuming you are using screen 0,
> as it appears you are, being as 5800 partially works).
> 
> - Dino
> 
> Harrison wrote:
> 
> > Hello all,  i'm pretty new at the whole routing and networking thing..
> > I recently set up a Cayman 3220 DSL router and i'm trying to make a
> > tunnel so that i can connect to vnc and administer the Server from home.
> > But i've been trying to make this thing work and it doesn't seem to come
> > through..  i made an external port 58 to connect to the internal 5800
> > port on the VNC server. it partly seems to work.  when i try and connect
> > to it through Netscape it says the applet is running...but nothing shows
> > up.
> >
> > Anyone have any clue on how i can fix this?
> >
> > ~Harrison
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AirSpeak Flair. A VNC like product?

2001-06-05 Thread kevin . yager

From: Kevin Yager

Does anyone know much about this Windows CE based Webpad called Flair, from a
company called Airspeak?

>From their website.  http://www.airspeak.com/
> FLAIR is a light-weight mobile pad
> that allows users to see and instantly
> access their entire desktop PC from remote
> locations. Also called a PCA (personal computer access),

How do they do it?  Did they invent their own VNC-like protocol?  Are they using
something from Microsoft?

Can anyone tell specifics about this product?

Kevin
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KDE ! Grrr!! Please help me!

2001-06-05 Thread franky

Ok i make many test sometime a see the menu bar but I have one error running
:
" konqueror, i get the KDE crash handler telling me that the application sent
the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). "

or no menubar... I'm french but I can read english... but probably i dont
understand something!
What is the script for xstartup i whant use KDE  whit mandrake 7.2 like when i
am front me server post!

Please i will be crazy!!


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Second password

2001-06-05 Thread Mohamed Barakat

Hello all,

is there a way one could have a second password for -viewonly. So that one could
permit people to follow but not to modify an application.

Many thanks,

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windows ce 3.0

2001-06-05 Thread Christian Grasser

Is there any port of the vnc server for windows ce 3.0?

Thanks

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Re: KDE ! Grrr!! Please help me!

2001-06-05 Thread greg chichkanoff

Hi Franky, I'm having the same problem...I get the
backround for KDE and cursor(and the nice error
message) but nothing else!

--- franky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok i make many test sometime a see the menu bar but
> I have one error running
> :
> " konqueror, i get the KDE crash handler telling me
> that the application sent
> the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). "
> 
> or no menubar... I'm french but I can read
> english... but probably i dont
> understand something!
> What is the script for xstartup i whant use KDE 
> whit mandrake 7.2 like when i
> am front me server post!
> 
> Please i will be crazy!!
> 
> 
> Franky
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Re: KDE setup in startup script?

2001-06-05 Thread greg chichkanoff

Well, I tried that and still get the same...although
now I don't have a xterm window, and it opens up with
a nice error...like Franky here:

--- franky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok i make many test sometime a see the menu bar but
> I have one error running
> :
> " konqueror, i get the KDE crash handler telling me
> that the application sent
> the signal 11 (SIGSEGV). "

--- Michael Schaap <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 19:30 4-6-2001, you wrote:
> >I know there are a lot of these questions already
> out
> >there, and I've tried the VNC FAQ to set this up(to
> no
> >avail). I'm running KDE2.0 and the server shows my
> >desktop color and cursor OK but no Icons. An xterm
> >window also shows up. I try running startkde from
> that
> >and get a ton of errors, one saying that kde is
> >already running. How do I get my icons?
> 
> My ~/.vnc/xstartup file looks as follows:
> 
> -8<-
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> startkde &
> ->8-
> 
> Works fine for me.  This is on Redhat 7.1, which I
> believe is KDE 2.1.
> 
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AW: Second password

2001-06-05 Thread oan

couldn't you simply try running two versions of vnc (say vnc and tridiavnc)?
That way you have two registry entries.

oan

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Hello all,

is there a way one could have a second password for -viewonly. So that one
could
permit people to follow but not to modify an application.

Many thanks,

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Re: AW: Second password

2001-06-05 Thread Mohamed Barakat

Hi,

thanks for your reply.


> couldn't you simply try running two versions of vnc (say vnc and tridiavnc)?

What is tridiavnc? I run SuSE-linux and there is no such binary in the vnc
package. But even, can one them use one to manipulate and the other to only view
a single vnc sesssion. I would appreciate more details.

Thanks a lot,

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Re: KDE ! Grrr!! Please help me!

2001-06-05 Thread franky

I find something

change your ~/.vnc/xstartup*

#!/bin/sh
startkde &

And  whant you lautch the server set it like this:
vncserver -depth 16

this better but i can open the derectory browser!

IF SOMEBODY KNOW!?!?!

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Re: KDE setup in startup script?

2001-06-05 Thread franky

I find something

change your ~/.vnc/xstartup*

#!/bin/sh
startkde &

And  whant you lautch the server set it like this:
vncserver -depth 16

this better but i can open the derectory browser!

IF SOMEBODY KNOW!?!?!

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Timeout on Session Start-up

2001-06-05 Thread Joel Johnston

New Thread..
I'm new to the thread so I hope that I haven't missed the answer to my
question in searching the archives. But so far I've found nothing.  I'm
running VNC on Windows Server 2000 and normally it runs fine. But something
is happening from time-to-time that is preventing me from launching VNC
Viewer.

I'll log out of the session and then later when I go to log in again I enter
the IP and it queues me for the password.  I enter the password and
NOTHING..   Then five minutes later the viewer crashes and I have to end
task the bugger.  This happens from any machine I try with VNC viewer, so I
know it's not my reader.

I'm running the VNC service on the Server so that I have complete ability to
log-on and off of the admin account.

Anyone had a similar experience?


 Joel Johnston
 281.855.4295

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I find something

change your ~/.vnc/xstartup*

#!/bin/sh
startkde &

And  whant you lautch the server set it like this:
vncserver -depth 16

this better but i can open the derectory browser!

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Problem with VPN & Windows 2000

2001-06-05 Thread Dave Mueller

>From home, I used to be able to create a VPN connection to my office
firewall.  From there I am able to VNC to every computer I have set up.  

Now I have one problem.  On my computer, Windows 2000, I am unable to VNC to
it thru the VPN.  I am able to connect from any other workstation.  I can
even VPN, VNC to another computer, and from that computer VNC to my Win 2000
computer.

I believe this started when I put SP2 on my Windows 2000 computer.  At this
time I also upgraded my video drivers.  All my VNC installations are at the
latest version.

Does anyone know how to fix this?  I did set my computer to start logging,
but I can't see anything obvious in the logs.

Thanks for any help.

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Legality

2001-06-05 Thread Dave Warren

I'm just curious if anyone happens to know the rules/regulations on 
monitoring employees in Canada.

Do they have to be notified that monitoring software is being used?

Do they have to be notified when someone is actively monitoring?

Thanks in advance :)



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Killing the server on Windows 98

2001-06-05 Thread Scott Dunn

Hi,

I've done two installs on Windows 98 and I've noticed that on both 
ocassions, server icon does not show up on the system tray.  So I try to 
find the application by pressing CTRL-ALT-DEL, but there's no obvious 
sign of the application.

The install was done by running the setup program and then installing 
the default registry settings.  Then I run VNC as an app.  At this 
point, I would expect a new icon to appear in the system tray (works in 
win2k, but not win98).

Questions:

1.How can I make the icon appear on the system tray?

2.If there is no system tray, how do I kill the server so that 
people cannot attempt to access the computer?

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Re: Killing the server on Windows 98

2001-06-05 Thread James ''Wez'' Weatherall

On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Scott Dunn wrote:

> I've done two installs on Windows 98 and I've noticed that on both 
> ocassions, server icon does not show up on the system tray.  So I try to 
> find the application by pressing CTRL-ALT-DEL, but there's no obvious 
> sign of the application.
> 
> The install was done by running the setup program and then installing 
> the default registry settings.  Then I run VNC as an app.  At this 
> point, I would expect a new icon to appear in the system tray (works in 
> win2k, but not win98).
> 
> Questions:
> 
> 1.How can I make the icon appear on the system tray?
> 
> 2.If there is no system tray, how do I kill the server so that 
> people cannot attempt to access the computer?

You will not get an icon under Win9x unless you have logged in with a
username (i.e. not just the normal login-as-nobody login).  This usually
requires you to set Win9x to support separate user profiles, at least.

Cheers,

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Re: Killing the server on Windows 98

2001-06-05 Thread James ''Wez'' Weatherall

On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, David W . Chapman Jr . wrote:

> > I've done two installs on Windows 98 and I've noticed that on both 
> > ocassions, server icon does not show up on the system tray.  So I try to 
> > find the application by pressing CTRL-ALT-DEL, but there's no obvious 
> > sign of the application.
> 98 Won't show it in the task list because the task list doesn't show 
> services as nt or 2k might.

There is no such thing as a service under win9x.  "Services" on this
platform are simply processes that stay alive across logins, so they
should show up in the task list if they are running.

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VNC with KDE 2 and JBuilder

2001-06-05 Thread Manuel Mall

I just upgraded on our Redhat 6.2 system from KDE 1.x to KDE 2.1. Initially
VNC access didn't work at all but after scanning the list I found the tip of
starting vncserver with -depth 16 and the problem appeared to be solved.
However, I then found out that JBuilder had stopped working under VNC, ie.
the display shows only a window with a black background. Again looking
through this list I found a someone saying that Java seems to require the
standard depth of 8.

Has anyone found a solution for this dilemma: KDE won't work with -depth 8
and JBuilder won't work with - deph 16. So how can I run JBuilder within KDE
accessed through VNC?

Manuel

PS: If you wonder why I upgraded to KDE 2.1 when everything was working fine
before: A customer came to us asking for support of an application developed
under Kdevelop 1.4 which in turn requires KDE 2.x. In particular supporting
this application requires both: A  Java development environment for servlets
and JSPs and a C++ development environment for some very specific interface
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Re: Legality (of monitoring)

2001-06-05 Thread Jonathan Morton

>I'm just curious if anyone happens to know the rules/regulations on
>monitoring employees in Canada.

IANAL, and I'm not in Canada.  I'm just wanting to be cautious:

>Do they have to be notified that monitoring software is being used?

It'd be a very good idea to put a monitoring clause in your systems policy,
so that it is made quite clear that monitoring can be done.  I would guess
that to do otherwise would be at best unwise, and possibly illegal.  It's a
good idea to disable the pop-up menu as a first step to prevent users from
disabling VNC, and put an "anti-disabling" clause in the same policy if you
feel this is necessary.

>Do they have to be notified when someone is actively monitoring?

See above - I'd at least leave the "tray icon" or other symbol visible,
which changes colour to denote a connected viewer.  There is also an option
in recent versions of WinVNC to display a confirmation dialogue box,
although this option is more suited to a tech-support role than for
monitoring.  Advise monitoring supervisors to use the "view only" option at
the viewer end, to avoid accidentally disrupting workflow of the employee.

In general, I'd err on the side of openness.  Otherwise, as soon as the
word gets out (and it will, as soon as the first few employees are caught),
you'd be labelled as a spy and your employees wouldn't be happy with you.
For readers in educational establishments, the same goes for students,
perhaps even more so.

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Re: KDE ! Grrr!! Please help me!

2001-06-05 Thread Joshua J. Kugler

You aren't perchance running at 8 bit are you?  VNC will choke on 8 
bit.  Try 16 or higher.  24 bit will actually run faster in a windows 
viewer than 16.

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At 13:01 Tuesday 6/5/2001 -0400, you allegedly said:
>I find something
>
>change your ~/.vnc/xstartup*
>
>#!/bin/sh
>startkde &
>
>And  whant you lautch the server set it like this:
>vncserver -depth 16
>
>this better but i can open the derectory browser!
>
>IF SOMEBODY KNOW!?!?!
>
>Frangois Boucher
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RE: VNC with KDE 2 and JBuilder

2001-06-05 Thread Manuel Mall

Just saw another e-mail regarding vnc and kde which recommended using 24 bit
depth and surprise surprise now Java works. So in summary:

KDE 2.x works with depth 16 or depth 24.
Java GUI apps (I am using JDK 1.3.x here with Swing) appear to require depth
8 or depth 24.

So the common denominator is depth 24. All this is with vncviewer running
under Windows NT.

BTW, vnc (server and viewer) are great applications. Why aren't all apps so
simple to install and run?

Manuel
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From: Manuel Mall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2001 11:43
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: VNC with KDE 2 and JBuilder


I just upgraded on our Redhat 6.2 system from KDE 1.x to KDE 2.1. Initially
VNC access didn't work at all but after scanning the list I found the tip of
starting vncserver with -depth 16 and the problem appeared to be solved.
However, I then found out that JBuilder had stopped working under VNC, ie.
the display shows only a window with a black background. Again looking
through this list I found a someone saying that Java seems to require the
standard depth of 8.

Has anyone found a solution for this dilemma: KDE won't work with -depth 8
and JBuilder won't work with - deph 16. So how can I run JBuilder within KDE
accessed through VNC?

Manuel

PS: If you wonder why I upgraded to KDE 2.1 when everything was working fine
before: A customer came to us asking for support of an application developed
under Kdevelop 1.4 which in turn requires KDE 2.x. In particular supporting
this application requires both: A  Java development environment for servlets
and JSPs and a C++ development environment for some very specific interface
code.
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Re: Legality (of monitoring)

2001-06-05 Thread Dave Warren

> >I'm just curious if anyone happens to know the rules/regulations on
> >monitoring employees in Canada.
>
> IANAL, and I'm not in Canada.  I'm just wanting to be cautious:

Fair enough.  Thanks in advance.

> It'd be a very good idea to put a monitoring clause in your systems
policy,
> so that it is made quite clear that monitoring can be done.  I would guess
> that to do otherwise would be at best unwise, and possibly illegal.  It's
a
> good idea to disable the pop-up menu as a first step to prevent users from
> disabling VNC, and put an "anti-disabling" clause in the same policy if
you
> feel this is necessary.

I'm *guessing* the same thing.  I'm going to be researching properly in the
next few days, I just haven't had time yet.

At the moment, we've simply failed to load the -servicehelper portion in the
startup, thereby hiding the icon simply by not loading it.  No effort has
been made to disable the configuration options, or stop the user from
loading WinVNC themselves, with -servicehelper, and making changes.

There is a standard "We can record everything you do on our equipment and/or
network" but nothing about disabling such methods.  The specific clause
inplies network monitoring, but doesn't exclude machine specific monitoring.

> >Do they have to be notified when someone is actively monitoring?
>
> See above - I'd at least leave the "tray icon" or other symbol visible,
> which changes colour to denote a connected viewer.  There is also an
option
> in recent versions of WinVNC to display a confirmation dialogue box,
> although this option is more suited to a tech-support role than for
> monitoring.  Advise monitoring supervisors to use the "view only" option
at
> the viewer end, to avoid accidentally disrupting workflow of the employee.

At this point, the icon isn't visable.  I doubt that will change, since they
just deployed new machine imagines network wide.  Given that there is
officially no monitoring software, I think view-only is a good idea :)

> In general, I'd err on the side of openness.  Otherwise, as soon as the
> word gets out (and it will, as soon as the first few employees are
caught),
> you'd be labelled as a spy and your employees wouldn't be happy with you.
> For readers in educational establishments, the same goes for students,
> perhaps even more so.

I would tend to agree.  Especially with people like me, who know exactly
what to look for to see if a system is being monitored, passively or
actively.  Good 'ol NT/W2K, a task list does wonders, 'eh?  And the open
ports are just a WEE bit suspicious too.

I'm an employee, not in the MIS department, and the only member of MIS I've
had time to ask so far denied that any monitoring is happening at all.
Maybe he didn't know, or maybe he lied, I'm not sure.  But since I was able
to get into the config, and I can tell that the service is running, I'm
going to assume they are monitoring us.


Thanks for the information.  As always, much appreciated.



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Re: Killing the server on Windows 98

2001-06-05 Thread David W . Chapman Jr .

On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 03:06:36PM -0700, Scott Dunn wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've done two installs on Windows 98 and I've noticed that on both 
> ocassions, server icon does not show up on the system tray.  So I try to 
> find the application by pressing CTRL-ALT-DEL, but there's no obvious 
> sign of the application.
98 Won't show it in the task list because the task list doesn't show 
services as nt or 2k might.

> 
> The install was done by running the setup program and then installing 
> the default registry settings.  Then I run VNC as an app.  At this 
> point, I would expect a new icon to appear in the system tray (works in 
> win2k, but not win98).
> 
> Questions:
> 
> 1.How can I make the icon appear on the system tray?
> 
> 2.If there is no system tray, how do I kill the server so that 
> people cannot attempt to access the computer?
> 
There should be an icon under Admin Tools under the vnc folder on 
startup to stop the service.

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Re: Killing the server on Windows 98

2001-06-05 Thread David W . Chapman Jr .

On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 11:31:20PM +0100, James ''Wez'' Weatherall wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, David W . Chapman Jr . wrote:
> 
> There is no such thing as a service under win9x.  "Services" on this
> platform are simply processes that stay alive across logins, so they
> should show up in the task list if they are running.
> 

I do agree in with that logic, let me rephrase then, task manager 
doesn't show "processes that stay alive across logins"


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