RE: Win2k logoff disconnect

2000-12-19 Thread Oeschey, Lars

> whole such screen update took about 2 or 3 seconds when I used tight
> Constantin

ok, bear with me... hit me on my head... after taking a sharp look at the
icon in the tasktray, I noticed that it's not the tridia one. So actually I
didn't use encoding. After changing the binaries, it works fine now. 

Sorry, Lars
(Is there a way to display some more information in the about box? To be
sure what binary is running..)
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Sources.

2000-12-19 Thread Ola Lundqvist

Hi

I asked some days ago about sources, and my question was probably not that
clear.

So, is there anyone who knows where I can find the sources for the java-classes
that are transported from the server to the viewer when connecting via http?

Is there anyone who knows why they are not distributed with the rest of the
sources (have just checked the unix tar.gz package)?

Are they not GPL:ed, or?

I ask this because I need them to let the vncserver be in the main part
of the debian distribution. Else I have to remove all server classes...

Is there anyone who knows if the server will crash if I just remove them,
or will the program not compile?

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Re: Sources.

2000-12-19 Thread Carlyle Sutphen

You seem to be refering to this.

$ ls -1 ./vnc_unixsrc/classes
DesCipher.class
animatedMemoryImageSource.class
authenticationPanel.class
clipboardFrame.class
index.vnc
optionsFrame.class
rfbProto.class
shared.vnc
vncCanvas.class
vncviewer.class
vncviewer.jar

True?



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Hi

I asked some days ago about sources, and my question was probably not that
clear.

So, is there anyone who knows where I can find the sources for the
java-classes
that are transported from the server to the viewer when connecting via http?

Is there anyone who knows why they are not distributed with the rest of the
sources (have just checked the unix tar.gz package)?

Are they not GPL:ed, or?

I ask this because I need them to let the vncserver be in the main part
of the debian distribution. Else I have to remove all server classes...

Is there anyone who knows if the server will crash if I just remove them,
or will the program not compile?

// Ola

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Re: Is XWindows required?

2000-12-19 Thread Angel Martín Alganza

> >I am currious if it is possible to load a minimal Linux installation,
> >without the X-Windows server, and use VNC graphically.

Yes, it is... the installation can be as minimal as fitting on
a single 3 1/2 1.44MB floppy.

> >I could try it but I thought it would be preferable to see if this is
> >even possible before spending any time on this issue.

There is a VNC viewer for SVGA Linux libraries. I put it together with the
right libraries on a packadge for LRP (Linux Router Project - a project
for making routers with Linux on a floppy). So, you can use a VNC client
even on a system with other operating system than Linux installed whithout
making any chabnges to it... just booting from a floppy.

> Depends what you mean by small?  <300Mb Yes.  Fit on a floppy with X, no way.

Well... you also could go the muLinux way. muLinux offers a complete Linux
system on 1 to 7 floppies. Just pick up the BOOT floppy and the X add-on
and there you go. You get Linux with X on less than 5 MB of installation.

> >My goal is to have as little a distribution as possible with only the
> >necessary server services loaded (SSH, MAIL, VNC) and requiring only a
> >small amount of RAM (let's say 16MB) but naturally without the XFree86

Cool. I like small distributions. Have a look at my site
http://www.ugr.es/~ama/compro/ where I keep links to such small beauties.

> Why X?  Why not use something like Webmin and admin with a web browser, 

Why not X? When you can get it down to very few MBs and its a standard
protocol in UNIX and is so cool... why not have it? :)

> >I heard of very minimal implementation of VNC and even some discussion
> >about an embedded version.  This is why I am looking into this.

SVNCviewer is your friend. Look at http://www.ugr.es/~ama/compro/svncv/

Good luck.
Greetings,
Angel

PS. Please, let me know if you do something different. Mainly if you end
up with a tiny Linux distro, which I would love to see.
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Re: Is XWindows required?

2000-12-19 Thread Angel Martín Alganza

Uppsss!

Sorry, I understood you wanted to have the VNC viewer, instead of the
server. Anyway, you could try out muLinux or Buterfly (the code name for
the new version of LRP... which psomisses a lot).

Angel
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Re: Is XWindows required?

2000-12-19 Thread Adam Tauno Williams

>Cool. I like small distributions. Have a look at my site
>http://www.ugr.es/~ama/compro/ where I keep links to such small
>beauties.
>> Why X?  Why not use something like Webmin and admin with a web
>>browser, 
>Why not X? When you can get it down to very few MBs and its a standard
>protocol in UNIX and is so cool... why not have it? :)

Maybe you can get X & VNC in 5Mb (I'm doubtful)  but you don't have any apps
yet.  Things like control panel (which requires 1Mb python and 1Mb Tk/Tcl) or
Linuxconf-X (add a bunch more libraries).  Any gnome-ish app is going to require
imlib, gtk, sml, etc...  Then when the app starts you've got to throw all those
libraries into RAM (he said 16Mb) without effecting performance of the boxes
services.Snowballs chance, IMHO.

>>>I heard of very minimal implementation of VNC and even some
>>>discussion about an embedded version.  This is why I am looking into 
>>>this. SVNCviewer is your friend. Look at 
>>>http://www.ugr.es/~ama/compro/svncv/

He wants to run a vnc **server** on the "little" box.

An drop-in replacement widget library that spoke RFB natively instead of X would
be pretty neat,  but it doesn't exists yet, and (not being an expert on RFB) may
not even be possible.

Systems and Network Administrator
Morrison Industries
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Re: Sources.

2000-12-19 Thread Ola Lundqvist

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 11:04:46AM +0100, Carlyle Sutphen wrote:
> You seem to be refering to this.
> 
> $ ls -1 ./vnc_unixsrc/classes
> DesCipher.class
> animatedMemoryImageSource.class
> authenticationPanel.class
> clipboardFrame.class
> index.vnc
> optionsFrame.class
> rfbProto.class
> shared.vnc
> vncCanvas.class
> vncviewer.class
> vncviewer.jar
> 
> True?
Yes.

Regars,

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Re: Sources.

2000-12-19 Thread Ola Lundqvist

Oops forgot to send to the list. Sorry.

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 11:04:46AM +0100, Carlyle Sutphen wrote:
> You seem to be refering to this.
> 
> $ ls -1 ./vnc_unixsrc/classes
> DesCipher.class
> animatedMemoryImageSource.class
> authenticationPanel.class
> clipboardFrame.class
> index.vnc
> optionsFrame.class
> rfbProto.class
> shared.vnc
> vncCanvas.class
> vncviewer.class
> vncviewer.jar
> 
> True?
> 
Yes.

Regars,

// Ola

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Re: Sources.

2000-12-19 Thread Jared Smolens

Excerpts from VNC: 19-Dec-100 Re: Sources. by Ola [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Yes.

There is are two lists of packages, "binary" and "other" on the VNC
download page.  All of the source packages are listed under "other". 
You can find the Java source package 2nd from the bottom.

Cheers,

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Re: Sources.

2000-12-19 Thread Ola Lundqvist

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 07:38:36AM -0500, Jared Smolens wrote:
> Excerpts from VNC: 19-Dec-100 Re: Sources. by Ola [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Yes.
> 
> There is are two lists of packages, "binary" and "other" on the VNC
> download page.  All of the source packages are listed under "other". 
> You can find the Java source package 2nd from the bottom.
> 
> Cheers,
Thanx a lot! I thought that was some java client sources. :)

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MacOSX VNC Server?

2000-12-19 Thread Jason Ziegler

All,

Is anyone planning a VNC server port for MacOSX?

If not, why not? It promises to become one of the biggest Unix distributions
almost overnight when it is released, and the Public Beta is easy to obtain.

Thanks,

Jason Ziegler 
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Re: Re: Sources.

2000-12-19 Thread Carlyle Sutphen

>> There is are two lists of packages, "binary" and "other" on the VNC
>> download page.  All of the source packages are listed under "other".
>> You can find the Java source package 2nd from the bottom.
>>
>> Cheers,
> Thanx a lot! I thought that was some java client sources. :)
That's exactly what it is, the java version of the vncviewer (client) which,
as you wrote in your original request, gets sent to the browser :)



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On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 07:38:36AM -0500, Jared Smolens wrote:
> Excerpts from VNC: 19-Dec-100 Re: Sources. by Ola [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Yes.
>
> There is are two lists of packages, "binary" and "other" on the VNC
> download page.  All of the source packages are listed under "other".
> You can find the Java source package 2nd from the bottom.
>
> Cheers,
Thanx a lot! I thought that was some java client sources. :)

// Ola

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Re: Source for java classes?

2000-12-19 Thread Tristan Richardson

Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Is there anyone who knows where to find (if possible at all) the sources
> for the java classes, or why they are not distributed with the main
> vnc tarball? (for the vnc-server).
> 
> (I use vnc-3.3.3-r2 right now)
> 
> There is a discussion whether there is possible to distribute them under
> GPL and I would need the sources to follow the debian free software policy.
> 
> I have also tried to run the java code through kaffe and it works quite good.
> I get a login screen and I can enter the password but after that it
> is an exception. This is of course a kaffe bug but I whould like to fix that
> and I think it would help if I get the java source.
> 
> Well that is a lot of talking for a small matter :)
> 

The java sources are available as a separate package from the download page:

http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/download.html

Cheers

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winvnc AuthHosts

2000-12-19 Thread Gene Giannamore

was playing with this, testing to see how well I could use it to allow and
deny hosts. I noticed that it did not behave in the way I anticipated.
Obviously the firewall is the best place to do this to block external hosts.
It seems that a pattern of -192.168.9.1 will block 192.168.9.1,
192.168.9.10, and 192.168.9.100. However if I use -192.168.100.010, it does
not block anything (hoping it would block only 192.168.9.10).
I looked at the code section for this. but it has been so long since I have
even looked at c or c++ code, I cannot figure out how to change it. I do not
have the ability to test to see if this behaves the same way for subnets
(will -192.168.1 block 192.168.1, 192.168.10, and 192.168.100 ?)



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Re: winvnc AuthHosts

2000-12-19 Thread James ''Wez'' Weatherall

> was playing with this, testing to see how well I could use it to allow and
> deny hosts. I noticed that it did not behave in the way I anticipated.
> Obviously the firewall is the best place to do this to block external
hosts.
> It seems that a pattern of -192.168.9.1 will block 192.168.9.1,
> 192.168.9.10, and 192.168.9.100. However if I use -192.168.100.010, it
does
> not block anything (hoping it would block only 192.168.9.10).
> I looked at the code section for this. but it has been so long since I
have
> even looked at c or c++ code, I cannot figure out how to change it. I do
not
> have the ability to test to see if this behaves the same way for subnets
> (will -192.168.1 block 192.168.1, 192.168.10, and 192.168.100 ?)

Oh dear.  It seems I'm a clueless muppet.

Yes, the code simply treates the AuthHosts "sections" as a rudimentary
prefix filter.  What it should *actually* do is filter to the last
IP-address part specified, so that 192.168.9.1 just matches itself, while
192.168.9 matches anything in that 256-entry subnet.

Sorry.  My fault.  I'll work on a patch ASAP.

Cheers,

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RE: winvnc AuthHosts

2000-12-19 Thread Gene Giannamore

no rush, switching to query instead of accept. reminds me the way kixtart
treats a ip address as a single string(have to substring to find octets).
takes a little to get used to. could just pad each octet with leading 0s so
that the ip string is always xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (just like I learned to do in
kix).

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> was playing with this, testing to see how well I could use it to allow and
> deny hosts. I noticed that it did not behave in the way I anticipated.
> Obviously the firewall is the best place to do this to block external
hosts.
> It seems that a pattern of -192.168.9.1 will block 192.168.9.1,
> 192.168.9.10, and 192.168.9.100. However if I use -192.168.100.010, it
does
> not block anything (hoping it would block only 192.168.9.10).
> I looked at the code section for this. but it has been so long since I
have
> even looked at c or c++ code, I cannot figure out how to change it. I do
not
> have the ability to test to see if this behaves the same way for subnets
> (will -192.168.1 block 192.168.1, 192.168.10, and 192.168.100 ?)

Oh dear.  It seems I'm a clueless muppet.

Yes, the code simply treates the AuthHosts "sections" as a rudimentary
prefix filter.  What it should *actually* do is filter to the last
IP-address part specified, so that 192.168.9.1 just matches itself, while
192.168.9 matches anything in that 256-entry subnet.

Sorry.  My fault.  I'll work on a patch ASAP.

Cheers,

James "Wez" Weatherall
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WSH and VNC Password

2000-12-19 Thread Steve Bostedor

Ok, now I'm messing with using VBScript (WSH) to modify the registry setting
for the password and it's giving me crap.  Has anyone done this?  It appears
that REG_BINARY needs to be passed as an integer and the hex of the password
doesn't convert to an integer.  any ideas?
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Re: VNC Thing 2.2 for Mac

2000-12-19 Thread Levy Rami-ERL005

Dair,

Yes, forcing a refresh fixes the problem, so I doubt it's a server issue.

Rami Levy
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Problems with Compiling Xvnc

2000-12-19 Thread Bruce, Phillip

Hi,

   I'm trying to compile the Xvnc and get the following:

# make World
/usr/ccs/bin/make  -f xmakefile  all
make: Fatal error: Can't find `xmakefile': No such file or directory
Current working directory /usr/local/software/VNC/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `World'

It seems that it can't fine xmakefile in this script. Where is this
xmakefile at?

This is on Solaris 2.65/98 release. 



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Authentication Problems with Win2000 Server

2000-12-19 Thread Stephen Martin

Hello,
I have trawled the archives but could not see an exact example of the problem
that I,m currently experiencing so I thought I'd seek some help.

I have access to a Win2000 Server running VNC as a service.

After a reboot the service apparently starts up, I say apparently because
1) the system is remote I cannot see the screen.
2) I can telnet to the vnc server port and I receive RFB 003.003 on
connection.

On attempting to connect with a vnc viewer, I can connect, but on entering the

session password I get VNC authentication failed.

Is there a vnc server setting that I could relay to the sysadmin of the
system?
That would enable me to authenticate after a reboot?

Unfortunatley rebooting will be a frequent occrance as I,m installing perl and
python upon the
server along with other *nix type goodies.

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VNC Noise

2000-12-19 Thread Steve Bostedor

I am working on automation tools for deploying and managing VNC in our
company and would like to formally request that VNC be given an option to do
things quietly in the next version.  Maybe a /quiet option to surpress any
informational dialog boxes, ect.Any chance?

Thanks,

Steve Bostedor
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Re: Problems with Compiling Xvnc

2000-12-19 Thread jeff whitaker

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Bruce, Phillip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>I'm trying to compile the Xvnc and get the following:
> 
> # make World
> /usr/ccs/bin/make  -f xmakefile  all
> make: Fatal error: Can't find `xmakefile': No such file or directory
> Current working directory /usr/local/software/VNC/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc
> *** Error code 1
> make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `World'
> 
> It seems that it can't fine xmakefile in this script. Where is this
> xmakefile at?
> 
> This is on Solaris 2.65/98 release. 
> 
> 
> 


You must gnu make on Solaris.  On my system, 

make World MAKE=/usr/local/bin/make

does the trick.

-Jeff
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RE: Problems with Compiling Xvnc

2000-12-19 Thread Bruce, Phillip

Jeff,

   Thanks but that still didn't work: Look below:

make World MAKE=/opt/app/pkg/gnu/bin/make
/opt/app/pkg/gnu/bin/make  -f xmakefile  all
make: xmakefile: No such file or directory
make: *** No rule to make target `xmakefile'.  Stop.
*** Error code 2
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `World'
# /opt/app/pkg/gnu/bin/make -v
GNU Make version 3.78.1, by Richard Stallman and Roland McGrath.
Built for sparc-sun-solaris2.6
Copyright (C) 1988, 89, 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99
Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

Report bugs to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.

The problem is that is can't find xmakefile. So where the heck is it?

Phillip

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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 12:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problems with Compiling Xvnc


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Bruce, Phillip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>I'm trying to compile the Xvnc and get the following:
> 
> # make World
> /usr/ccs/bin/make  -f xmakefile  all
> make: Fatal error: Can't find `xmakefile': No such file or directory
> Current working directory /usr/local/software/VNC/vnc_unixsrc/Xvnc
> *** Error code 1
> make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `World'
> 
> It seems that it can't fine xmakefile in this script. Where is this
> xmakefile at?
> 
> This is on Solaris 2.65/98 release. 
> 
> 
> 


You must gnu make on Solaris.  On my system, 

make World MAKE=/usr/local/bin/make

does the trick.

-Jeff
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Re: Authentication Problems with Win2000 Server

2000-12-19 Thread James ''Wez'' Weatherall

You must set the password in the Default Properties dialog, otherwise you
can't log in over VNC immediately after a reboot.

Cheers,

James "Wez" Weatherall
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From: "Stephen Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 8:48 PM
Subject: Authentication Problems with Win2000 Server


> Hello,
> I have trawled the archives but could not see an exact example of the
problem
> that I,m currently experiencing so I thought I'd seek some help.
>
> I have access to a Win2000 Server running VNC as a service.
>
> After a reboot the service apparently starts up, I say apparently because
> 1) the system is remote I cannot see the screen.
> 2) I can telnet to the vnc server port and I receive RFB 003.003 on
> connection.
>
> On attempting to connect with a vnc viewer, I can connect, but on entering
the
>
> session password I get VNC authentication failed.
>
> Is there a vnc server setting that I could relay to the sysadmin of the
> system?
> That would enable me to authenticate after a reboot?
>
> Unfortunatley rebooting will be a frequent occrance as I,m installing perl
and
> python upon the
> server along with other *nix type goodies.
>
> Regards Stephen
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Re: VNC Noise

2000-12-19 Thread James ''Wez'' Weatherall

> I am working on automation tools for deploying and managing VNC in our
> company and would like to formally request that VNC be given an option to
do
> things quietly in the next version.  Maybe a /quiet option to surpress any
> informational dialog boxes, ect.Any chance?

Are you referring to the dialogs displayed by "winvnc -install" and
"winvnc -remove"?

Cheers,

James "Wez" Weatherall
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Re: VNC and encryption

2000-12-19 Thread David Fox

As I understand there is only SSH server services for *ix, but none is for
NT!  (I understand that there is SSH client services for NT.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Regards,

Dave

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From: "ROTTENBERG,HAL (HP-USA,ex1)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: VNC and encryption


> It is simple to use SSH.  It's certainly more complicated then using
> security built-in to another product, but it's also more flexible.
>
> Using SSH you also get a telnet-like remote command prompt for NT, which
is
> great, especially if you have the NT Resource Kit installed with all its
> command-line tools, and/or the gnulike/cygwin tools.
>
> If you found the SSH install to be difficult, try this link, it takes
about
> 2 minutes to install, and that includes the download.
>
> http://marvin.criadvantage.com/caspian/Software/SSHD-NT/default.php
>
>
> Hal Rottenberg | Hewlett-Packard
> Technical Support Engineer | Phone: +1-404-774-4041
> Internet Security Division | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Web: http://www.hp.com/security
>
>
> -Original Message-
> 
> the zero data security is what prevents me from using vnc in my business.
> The people here will say to simply setup some other kind of encryption
like
> ssh.  However, I have found there is nothing simple about that.
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Re: VNC and encryption

2000-12-19 Thread Adrian Phillips

> "David" == David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

David> As I understand there is only SSH server services for *ix,
David> but none is for NT!  (I understand that there is SSH client
David> services for NT.

David> Please correct me if I am wrong.

As he mentioned, cygwin (a Unix environment under Windows) has ssh
(daemon and client), inetd, and many well known Unix tools, e.g. bash,
ls, find.

www.cygwin.com

Sincerely,

Adrian Phillips

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