Re: [vdr] Sky UK Channels.conf - Channel Numbering & Categories

2011-05-05 Thread Henning Pingel 


Hi Dom,

Did you check the new Channelpedia project?
Maybe we can join forces to achieve your goal.

http://channelpedia.yavdr.com/gen/html/channels_en_S28.2E.html

Cheers,
Henning

Am Donnerstag, den 05.05.2011, 14:15 +0200 schrieb Dominic Evans 
:

Hi,

I had been interested in generating a channels.conf that contained 
the
channels grouped by the Sky UK genre categories, whilst also using 
the

same channel numbering.

I found a script on yavdr forums that did something similar, and I
modified it to do what I wanted and include the numbering. However,
I'm guessing that the attached channels.conf won't actually do what I
want

I haven't tried it out on my system yet, but vdr's manpages state 
that

"The given number must be larger than the number of any previous
channel (otherwise it is silently ignored)." so I assume the channels
number 971+ in the first 'Entertainment' category are probably going
cause all the following lower numbers in the next categories to be
ignored? Any possible workaround? Is this a feature request?

Cheers,
Dom



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Re: [vdr] UK Channel Logos

2011-05-05 Thread André Weidemann 

Hi Dominic,

On 21.04.2011 19:43, Dominic Evans wrote:


Ideally these could be used to build a decent set of images for use
with VDR (e.g., PearlHD skin), EPG (yaepghd?) and web interface
(live).


Thank you very much for those logos.

Currently I am using the anthra-HD skin and wanted your logos to blend 
in. Therefore I wrote a little skript to create them. All that is 
required is "convert" from the ImageMagick package and of course "git" 
to check out the logos.


Simply download the tgz from here:
https://ilpss8.dyndns.org/~andrew/convert-to-liquid-logo.tgz

Unpack the archive into your working directory and run:
convert-images/convert-to-liquid-logo.sh

The logos can then be found inside the directory liquid-logos4anthra_HD.

Enjoy!
 André



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Re: [vdr] UK Channel Logos

2011-05-05 Thread Dominic Evans 
Hi André,

On 5 May 2011 14:10, André Weidemann  wrote:
> Thank you very much for those logos.

My pleasure!

> Currently I am using the anthra-HD skin and wanted your logos to blend in.
> Therefore I wrote a little skript to create them. All that is required is
> "convert" from the ImageMagick package and of course "git" to check out the
> logos.
>
> Simply download the tgz from here:
> https://ilpss8.dyndns.org/~andrew/convert-to-liquid-logo.tgz
>
> Unpack the archive into your working directory and run:
> convert-images/convert-to-liquid-logo.sh
>
> The logos can then be found inside the directory liquid-logos4anthra_HD.

Excellent! Thank you for writing this script. I'll test them tonight
with anthra.

One question, did ImageMagick work successfully for you when resizing
the svg images? I had problems where it would seemingly render a
bitmap at the default dpi of the svg and then do a lossy resize of
that to the new dimensions. Ideally I'd want it to do a lossless
resize of the svg first, before rendering the png.

Best regards,
Dom

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Re: [vdr] Sky UK Channels.conf - Channel Numbering & Categories

2011-05-05 Thread Dominic Evans 
Hi Henning,

On 5 May 2011 13:43, Henning Pingel  wrote:
>
> Hi Dom,
>
> Did you check the new Channelpedia project?
> Maybe we can join forces to achieve your goal.
>
> http://channelpedia.yavdr.com/gen/html/channels_en_S28.2E.html
>

Yep, I had previously discovered the Channelpedia project, but as far
as I know you don't currently including numbering in your generate
channels.conf files?

I'm happy to help out with extending your scripts to generate both Sky
UK and Freesat numbering & grouping files - presuming that Klaus can
advise on how to group higher numbered channels before lower numbered
ones.

Best regards,
Dom

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Re: [vdr] Sky UK Channels.conf - Channel Numbering & Categories

2011-05-05 Thread Tony Houghton 
On Thu, 5 May 2011 13:15:10 +0100
Dominic Evans  wrote:

> I had been interested in generating a channels.conf that contained the
> channels grouped by the Sky UK genre categories, whilst also using the
> same channel numbering.

OOI, how do you get the channel numbering? I know how to get the numbers
for Freesat (and Freeview) and have written a scanner which can generate
numbered channels.conf files in VDR format.

Of more interest to me than Sky numbering is to get the regional
variations right in Freesat. There are some extra fields in its LCN
descriptors, but I don't know how to use them. I've had to hardwire
certain mappings by name (eg "BBC 1 South" = 101 etc), but all the
Channel 4 variants have the same name and my script has assigned 104 to
a Northern Irish variant judging by the adverts.

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Re: [vdr] Sky UK Channels.conf - Channel Numbering & Categories

2011-05-05 Thread Dominic Evans 
On 5 May 2011 15:23, Tony Houghton  wrote:
>> I had been interested in generating a channels.conf that contained the
>> channels grouped by the Sky UK genre categories, whilst also using the
>> same channel numbering.
>
> OOI, how do you get the channel numbering? I know how to get the numbers
> for Freesat (and Freeview) and have written a scanner which can generate
> numbered channels.conf files in VDR format.

:-) I've previously been using your scanner code from boxstard to get
the Freesat numberings from LCN fields.

I had hoped to hack around with your code and the eepg code to see if
I could extract them for Sky, but in the end I just parsed the json
data from http://epgservices.sky.com/tvlistings-proxy/TVListingsProxy/init.json
and used that to match channel names to numbers and genres.

> Of more interest to me than Sky numbering is to get the regional
> variations right in Freesat. There are some extra fields in its LCN
> descriptors, but I don't know how to use them. I've had to hardwire
> certain mappings by name (eg "BBC 1 South" = 101 etc), but all the
> Channel 4 variants have the same name and my script has assigned 104 to
> a Northern Irish variant judging by the adverts.

I'm not sure how important this is to people? I'm just as happy with
BBC1 London at 101 as I am with BBC1 South. If I _really_ want
regional news I can always switch to it by choice.

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[vdr] How about a small UK/Ireland S28.2E VDR community forum?

2011-05-05 Thread Henning Pingel 


Hello, 

[This email has been sitting in my drafts folder for a few
weeks. Today I had the courage to send it.]  

I was wondering if it
would make sense to offer a place for VDR users using the
sky_uk/freesat/S28.2E/freeview platforms to communicate with each other.
The intention is that people can discuss their special needs like
freesat EPG, red button stuff, channel lists, channel logos and all
other things and test new inventions (like the red button extension)
together.

 Being a frequent user of freesat channels myself and being a
member of the developers behind the yaVDR distribution (www.yavdr.org),
I would like to offer to you to open up an English language community
forum on our yaVDR board located at forum.yavdr.com [1]. This board is
currently mostly used by our development team for internal discussions,
so there is not much to see there for external visitors yet.

 Please
don't get me wrong: I don't want to drag away developer discussions from
this mailing list, it's more a forum where developers and users who
share the same topics (freesat/freeview/SKY_UK) can communicate and
solve problems related to VDR together. And knowledge could be made more
accessible for new VDR users.

 Maybe this could also be a good starting
point for building up an English language VDR user community forum -
starting off with UK/Ireland users. I always thought an English language
community was missing next to the German language VDR portal
(www.vdr-portal.de [2]).

 If some of you guys here are interested in
such a place, please give me a short reply. It only takes me a couple of
minutes to set up a new area on the forum. Or is there already a forum
in place?

 Regards,
 Henning

Links:
--
[1]
http://forum.yavdr.com
[2] http://www.vdr-portal.de
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Re: [vdr] Sky UK Channels.conf - Channel Numbering & Categories

2011-05-05 Thread Tony Houghton 
On Thu, 5 May 2011 16:08:09 +0100
Dominic Evans  wrote:

> I'm not sure how important this is to people? I'm just as happy with
> BBC1 London at 101 as I am with BBC1 South. If I _really_ want
> regional news I can always switch to it by choice.

I do prefer BBC's South Today to London's regional news. But the big
advantage of BBC 1 London is that it's on the same transponder as BBC 2
England, Channel 5 and BBC THREE etc, so you can record/watch more than
one at a time, whereas the other regions tend to be shared with other
regions of the same channel.

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Re: [vdr] How about a small UK/Ireland S28.2E VDR community forum?

2011-05-05 Thread Rob Davis 

On 05/05/11 10:38, Henning Pingel wrote:

Hello,

[This email has been sitting in my drafts folder for a few weeks. Today
I had the courage to send it.]

I was wondering if it would make sense to offer a place for VDR users
using the sky_uk/freesat/S28.2E/freeview platforms to communicate with
each other. The intention is that people can discuss their special needs
like freesat EPG, red button stuff, channel lists, channel logos and all
other things and test new inventions (like the red button extension)
together.

Being a frequent user of freesat channels myself and being a member of
the developers behind the yaVDR distribution (www.yavdr.org), I would
like to offer to you to open up an English language community forum on
our yaVDR board located at forum.yavdr.com .
This board is currently mostly used by our development team for internal
discussions, so there is not much to see there for external visitors yet.

Please don't get me wrong: I don't want to drag away developer
discussions from this mailing list, it's more a forum where developers
and users who share the same topics (freesat/freeview/SKY_UK) can
communicate and solve problems related to VDR together. And knowledge
could be made more accessible for new VDR users.

Maybe this could also be a good starting point for building up an
English language VDR user community forum - starting off with UK/Ireland
users. I always thought an English language community was missing next
to the German language VDR portal (www.vdr-portal.de
).

If some of you guys here are interested in such a place, please give me
a short reply. It only takes me a couple of minutes to set up a new area
on the forum. Or is there already a forum in place?



If that is the case, can you add a US / ATSC / PVRInput section too.  I 
get the feeling there are only three people using VDR in the US.. :-) 
Although it could be good to share..


--

Rob Davis

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Re: [vdr] How about a small UK/Ireland S28.2E VDR community forum?

2011-05-05 Thread Tony Houghton 
On Thu, 05 May 2011 17:38:42 +0200
Henning Pingel  wrote:

> I was wondering if it
> would make sense to offer a place for VDR users using the
> sky_uk/freesat/S28.2E/freeview platforms to communicate with each other.
> The intention is that people can discuss their special needs like
> freesat EPG, red button stuff, channel lists, channel logos and all
> other things and test new inventions (like the red button extension)
> together.
> 
>  Being a frequent user of freesat channels myself and being a
> member of the developers behind the yaVDR distribution (www.yavdr.org),
> I would like to offer to you to open up an English language community
> forum on our yaVDR board located at forum.yavdr.com [1]. This board is
> currently mostly used by our development team for internal discussions,
> so there is not much to see there for external visitors yet.

I'd be interested. But I wonder whether it would be appropriate to allow
discussion of UK specifics in other software too eg mythtv. Ultimately
VDR doesn't quite suit my needs due to its poor support for viewing
across a network, while mythtv's setup tool always makes me give up in
disgust. That's why I started boxstar, but it might be a very long time
before it becomes usable in its own right.

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Re: [vdr] UK Channel Logos

2011-05-05 Thread André Weidemann 

Hi Dominic,

Am 05.05.2011 16:05, schrieb Dominic Evans:


One question, did ImageMagick work successfully for you when resizing
the svg images? I had problems where it would seemingly render a
bitmap at the default dpi of the svg and then do a lossy resize of
that to the new dimensions. Ideally I'd want it to do a lossless
resize of the svg first, before rendering the png.


The paramter "-density 1000" did the trick for me.
So if you do "convert -density 1000 BBC\ One.svg BBC\ One.png" the image 
is scaled smoothly to 375x277.


André

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Re: [vdr] How about a small UK/Ireland S28.2E VDR community forum?

2011-05-05 Thread VDR User 
On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Henning Pingel  wrote:
> Maybe this could also be a good starting point for building up an English
> language VDR user community forum - starting off with UK/Ireland users. I
> always thought an English language community was missing next to the German
> language VDR portal (www.vdr-portal.de).

There is already a large english-speaking forum located at DVBN.
http://dvbn.happysat.org

There are a lot of VDR and mythtv users there, some of which actually
use yavdr but most who compile VDR themselves.

@Rob Davis:
Don't worry, you're not alone.  There is a huge NA VDR community,
although most of it exists outside of this mailing list and most VDR
forums.  The best place to associate with your kind is likely the
Linux forum at DVBN. :)

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