Re: [vdr] VGA2SCART: circuit diagram with audio pins

2010-08-25 Thread Matthias Fechner

Am 24.08.10 16:35, schrieb Tony Houghton:

It depends on whether the Ion2 can generate the modelines you need.
You'll have to check around for that. I expect most people buying new
hardware like this would already have an LCD TV by now, so the info
could be hard to find :-(.


hm, here you are right.
Does anyone knows if the POV mainboard 
(http://www.pointofview-online.com/showroom.php?shop_mode=product_detail&product_id=97) 
works with the VGA2SCART adapter?


If yes then I could use the new board for the LCD and I can kick out my 
old Pentium II 233MHz Box :)


Thanks,
Matthias

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Re: [vdr] Impact in cDevice::GetDevice

2010-08-25 Thread L. Hanisch

Hi,

Am 25.08.2010 08:52, schrieb Rainer Blickle:

This impact algorithm has evolved over time and is a very fragile thing.

Looks like only people have very deep insight in this algorithm should
change it.


For alternate channel, wouldn't it be better to try all possible
channels one after the other until one succeeds? I would not expect
GetDevice to return a device for a different channel than requested.


I have two different solutions in mind.

The first one:
Modify the cDevice::GetDevice method. It returns a device able to
provide the same "semantic" channel as requested ("semantic channel" =
channel with the same programme).
Modify the cDevice::SetChannel method. If the requested channel
couldn't be provided by the device, the method will try to provide the
configured alternatives one.
Pros: The user have the epg and the original channel number on the osd
Cons: Modifies the methods in an unexpected way. Plugins and other
parts of the vdr doesn't work anymore.

The second one:
When pressing CH+/- or selecting an channel directly (via 0-9) and the
selected channel is not available, switch the channel explicit to an
alternative one. (explicit = also display the channel number and the
epg of the alternative channel).
Pros: After switching to the new channel, the vdr is in a clean and
consitent state.
Cons: The vdr has switched to complete another channel when using CH+/-.

Checking for timer conflicts won't work correctly in both ways
(without changes), because this algorithm doesn't know about
alternative channels. But it would be much easier to implement this
when using the second approach.


 a third one (just comes to my mind, not deeply thought about):

 Write a device-plugin which provides a new source. Then you will have your own channels. In each channel entry you can 
configure which "real" channels are behind this and the plugin will attach a receiver to the next free "real" device and 
passes through the data. That would be a transparent way for recordings, live tv etc. and you don't have to patch vdr 
(hopefully). You only have to look where to get the epg but I think there's a "copy epg from one channel to 
another"-patch...


Lars.

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Re: [vdr] VGA2SCART: circuit diagram with audio pins

2010-08-25 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 01:36:34PM +0200, Matthias Fechner wrote:
> hm, here you are right.
> Does anyone knows if the POV mainboard  
> (http://www.pointofview-online.com/showroom.php?shop_mode=product_detail&product_id=97)
>  
> works with the VGA2SCART adapter?

AFAIK all more recent (aka VDPAU compatible) nVidia graphics run VGA2SCART
flawlessly. There are found many VGA2SCART success stories at [2].

I myself use an POV ION 330-1 for VGA2SCART.

If you should decide to use my favorite VGA-to-SCART adaptor [1] a minor
problem could arise. Newer VGA ports often don't provide 5V+ at pin9 (VESA-DCC)
any more. In that case you simply use any other 5V+ source instead.

cheers
  Thomas

[1] http://lowbyte.de/vga-sync-fields/vga-sync-fields/README
[2] http://www.vdr-portal.de/


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[vdr] Converting all recordings to TS?

2010-08-25 Thread Teemu Suikki
Hi,

I just upgraded to VDR 1.7.15, mainly because I want to watch TS
recordings with PS3, directly from PS3 browser with VDRAdmin and
StreamDev.. I already have it pretty much working, both LiveTV and
recordings work fine. I have been modifying VDRAdmin-am slightly to be
more ps3-oriented. :)

Anyway, now the biggest problem is that I have about 1TB of recordings
recorded with older VDR.. I'd like to convert all of those to TS. :)
Is there some simple shell utility? Writing the actual script is not a
problem, if I just knew what program to use for the conversion.

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Re: [vdr] VGA2SCART: circuit diagram with audio pins

2010-08-25 Thread Matthias Fechner
Hi Thomas,

Am 25.08.2010 18:33, schrieb Thomas Hilber:
> AFAIK all more recent (aka VDPAU compatible) nVidia graphics run VGA2SCART
> flawlessly. There are found many VGA2SCART success stories at [2].

thanks, that are great news (but in the README only the ATI and Intel
cards are mentioned :) ).

> If you should decide to use my favorite VGA-to-SCART adaptor [1] a minor
> problem could arise. Newer VGA ports often don't provide 5V+ at pin9 
> (VESA-DCC)
> any more. In that case you simply use any other 5V+ source instead.

ok, so you can use +5V from an USB port which I need for infrared too.

I will wait now till the new Asus ION2 board is available for a
reasonable price and then I will give it a try with my old system.

I will keep you up-to-date.

Bye
Matthias

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build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to
produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." --
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PS: sorry for double mails, I currently tracking down the problem, if it
happens again I should have the required information in my logfiles now

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Re: [vdr] VGA2SCART: circuit diagram with audio pins (was: VDR with 50Hz clock output)

2010-08-25 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:59:52AM +0200, Paul Menzel wrote:
> I found an updated diagram at [1]. I hope it is what you wanted.
> 
> [1] http://crashme.cx/vdr-portal-picts/VGA_SCART_RGB_NEWER.png

this is just a full blown schematic with charge pump circuit to
provide up to 11V at SCART pin 8. If you don't need that
you might use my stripped down to the bare minimum circuit shown at [1].

The simple circuit has been proven successful in many 
cases. It has been sold ready to use at [2]. I don't know if
it's still manufactured.

cheers
   Thomas

[1] http://lowbyte.de/vga-sync-fields/vga-sync-fields/README
[2] http://www.vdr-portal.de/board/thread.php?threadid=84693

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Re: [vdr] VGA2SCART: circuit diagram with audio pins

2010-08-25 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 06:46:54PM +0200, Matthias Fechner wrote:
> thanks, that are great news (but in the README only the ATI and Intel
> cards are mentioned :) ).

right. The circuit was just a byproduct for the vga-sync-fields project.

> ok, so you can use +5V from an USB port which I need for infrared too.

sure

> I will keep you up-to-date.

Maybe you are interested in [1]. That guy uses also that minimum 
VGA2SCART circuit.
BTW: In the meantime yaVDR [2] includes native VGA2SCART support.

cheers
   Thomas

[1] http://www.vdr-portal.de/board/thread.php?threadid=98112
[2] http://www.yavdr.org/


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Re: [vdr] Converting all recordings to TS?

2010-08-25 Thread C.Scheeder

Am 25.08.2010 18:43, schrieb Teemu Suikki:

Hi,

I just upgraded to VDR 1.7.15, mainly because I want to watch TS
recordings with PS3, directly from PS3 browser with VDRAdmin and
StreamDev.. I already have it pretty much working, both LiveTV and
recordings work fine. I have been modifying VDRAdmin-am slightly to be
more ps3-oriented. :)

Anyway, now the biggest problem is that I have about 1TB of recordings
recorded with older VDR.. I'd like to convert all of those to TS. :)
Is there some simple shell utility? Writing the actual script is not a
problem, if I just knew what program to use for the conversion.


Hi,
I guess ProjectX will do the trick, it is scriptable.
At least vdrconvert uses it this way to generate DVD-streams
from VDR-recordings.
the only downside is, it needs an X-server to run.
(a real one or a fake one. vdrconvert uses a fake server...)
hope it helps.
Christoph

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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video & audio, etc.

2010-08-25 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:13:56AM +0200, jori.hamalai...@teliasonera.com wrote:
> Computer hardware usually cannot provide 50.000Hz, 59.940Hz or 23.976Hz
> outputs to your TV/Monitor. This will cause some judder on display output
> as MPEG/AVC input-stream is not synchronized to output framerate.

it's correct that computer hardware normally cannot provide 50.000Hz. Nor 
can it adapt the framerate dynamically as I did for some handpicked hardware
in my sync-fields-project [1].

But even in the case of non synchronized output framerate (VDPAU) it does not
necessarily mean that judder will result.

Nvidia graphics use excellent deinterlacers. These produce a stream of
progressive frames with field frequency (e.g. 50Hz) out of an 
interlaced source.

Single frame doubler/losses at 50Hz are not visible to the human eye. To
put that in other words: VDPAU uses some brute force (deinterlacing)
to work around their design flaw (missing synchronization). In practice
this works very well.

Surely it's not an optimal solution: the price for that is excess graphics
power requirement if you think in terms of 5W units. But nonetheless 
the smoothness of picture flow is excellent.

If some people report they observe judder though this mostly is a result
of a wrong setup (xorg.conf) or use of temporarily broken beta 
software (xine derivates). With VDPAU design there exists nothing like
inherent judder.

For the future I wish there once will become available some graphics with
native dynamic framerate support. Never seen such thing until today.

cheers
   Thomas

[1] http://lowbyte.de/vga-sync-fields/vga-sync-fields/

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Re: [vdr] Converting all recordings to TS?

2010-08-25 Thread Lars Bläser
On 25.08.2010 18:43, Teemu Suikki wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just upgraded to VDR 1.7.15, mainly because I want to watch TS
> recordings with PS3, directly from PS3 browser with VDRAdmin and
> StreamDev.. I already have it pretty much working, both LiveTV and
> recordings work fine. I have been modifying VDRAdmin-am slightly to be
> more ps3-oriented. :)
> 
> Anyway, now the biggest problem is that I have about 1TB of recordings
> recorded with older VDR.. I'd like to convert all of those to TS. :)
> Is there some simple shell utility? Writing the actual script is not a
> problem, if I just knew what program to use for the conversion.

as long as it's a normal mpeg2 PES recording (no PES h.264, hd recording
with h.264 patch for vdr 1.7.0) projectx (java) will be able to convert
PES to TS, the index can be ignored (vdr 1.7.15 regenerates it if missing)
not shure about the info.vdr to info conversion (with any luck renaming
is ok)

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Re: [vdr] Converting all recordings to TS?

2010-08-25 Thread Halim Sahin
Hi,
Just wondering why you want to convert old vdr recordings to ts?
Vdr-1.7.15 can play old recording in pes format.
BR.
Halim

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Re: [vdr] Converting all recordings to TS?

2010-08-25 Thread Lars Bläser
On 25.08.2010 20:31, Halim Sahin wrote:
> Hi,
> Just wondering why you want to convert old vdr recordings to ts?
> Vdr-1.7.15 can play old recording in pes format.

some players dont like pes at all or do not recognise *.vdr files

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Re: [vdr] Advice on new motherboard, xineliboutput, vdpau, hdmi video & audio, etc.

2010-08-25 Thread Prelude

 On 25.8.2010 20:45, Thomas Hilber wrote:

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:13:56AM +0200, jori.hamalai...@teliasonera.com wrote:

Computer hardware usually cannot provide 50.000Hz, 59.940Hz or 23.976Hz
outputs to your TV/Monitor. This will cause some judder on display output
as MPEG/AVC input-stream is not synchronized to output framerate.

If some people report they observe judder though this mostly is a result
of a wrong setup (xorg.conf) or use of temporarily broken beta
software (xine derivates). With VDPAU design there exists nothing like
inherent judder.


First big thx to You Thomas from Your nice vga-sync-fields patch. I used 
it in my previous system.


Currently I use VDR 1.7.15 and vdr-xineliboutput (gentoo ebuild  
1.0.) from CVS and checkout date was 20100817.

I have suffered this annoying judder in both live and recording viewing.
My  config_xineliboutput: http://pastebin.com/kxe7RvX0
xorg.xonf: http://pastebin.com/6fCvWvxU

nvidia-drivers: nvidia-drivers-256.44
xine-lib: CVS 20100626
Kernel: 2.6.35-gentoo
Motherboard: ZOTAC ION ITX D Series 
http://www.zotac.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=100026&lang=en

CPU: Atom 330
GPU: Integrated

I'm thankful (And I know couple others too who's have same problem) if 
You or someone else can check those configs out and tell if there is 
something wrong.
I have already spended many weeks whit reading and testing what ever 
information/settings from VDPAU & xine-lib but nothings have helped so far.


Tommi


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Re: [vdr] Converting all recordings to TS?

2010-08-25 Thread Éric Laly

Le 25/08/2010 18:43, Teemu Suikki a écrit :

Hi,

I just upgraded to VDR 1.7.15, mainly because I want to watch TS
recordings with PS3, directly from PS3 browser with VDRAdmin and
StreamDev.. I already have it pretty much working, both LiveTV and
recordings work fine. I have been modifying VDRAdmin-am slightly to be
more ps3-oriented. :)

Anyway, now the biggest problem is that I have about 1TB of recordings
recorded with older VDR.. I'd like to convert all of those to TS. :)
Is there some simple shell utility? Writing the actual script is not a
problem, if I just knew what program to use for the conversion.


I've had the same problem recently but with XBMC.

I've written a little script to transcode all my recording (see joined).

For transcoding I've used vlc, the heart of the script is:
cvlc --play-and-exit --sout="#std{access=file,mux=ts,dst=$ts_file}" 
$pes_file


Hope this can help.

Éric.


transcode_pes_ts.sh
Description: application/shellscript
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Re: [vdr] Converting all recordings to TS?

2010-08-25 Thread Niko Mikkilä
Wed, 2010-08-25 at 19:30 +0200, C.Scheeder wrote:
> I guess ProjectX will do the trick, it is scriptable.
> At least vdrconvert uses it this way to generate DVD-streams
> from VDR-recordings.
> the only downside is, it needs an X-server to run.
> (a real one or a fake one. vdrconvert uses a fake server...)

No need for an X server if you put AWT to headless mode:

java -Djava.awt.headless=true -jar ProjectX.jar ...

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Re: [vdr] Converting all recordings to TS?

2010-08-25 Thread Teemu Suikki
I'm watching the recording from Playstation3, and it can't play PES
format.. I know I could transcode pes->ts with mediatomb or
ps3mediaserver, but it's far easier to simply have TS recordings and
stream directly with http.

Anyway, thanks everyone for all the ideas, I'll look into it.. :)



2010/8/25 Halim Sahin :
> Hi,
> Just wondering why you want to convert old vdr recordings to ts?
> Vdr-1.7.15 can play old recording in pes format.
> BR.
> Halim
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