[USRP-users] weird usrp coredump

2022-07-14 Thread Jason Matusiak
Trying to run a C++ based flowgraph and occasionally getting a 
segfault/coredump.  Finally, was able to capture the stack trace, and I am not 
sure what to make of it.  I //think// that this is all UHD, and not my app, but 
I find that hard to believe.  Here is that core dump, any thoughts on what is 
causing this and if there is any way for more to gracefully recover from it?  
This was using a single N320, gnuradio v3.8, and UHD 4.1.0.5.

#0  __memmove_avx_unaligned_erms () at 
../sysdeps/x86_64/multiarch/memmove-vec-unaligned-erms.S:257
#1  0x7fe7f4950bbd in uhd::convert::converter::conv (num=, 
out=..., in=..., this=)
at /opt/gnuradio/v3.8/src/uhd/host/include/uhd/convert.hpp:36
#2  uhd::transport::rx_streamer_impl::_convert_to_out_buff (num_samps=, chan=0, out_buffs=...,
this=0x7fe7a00027f8) at 
/opt/gnuradio/v3.8/src/uhd/host/lib/include/uhdlib/transport/rx_streamer_impl.hpp:339
#3  uhd::transport::rx_streamer_impl::_recv_one_packet (buffer_offset_bytes=0, timeout_ms=100,
eov_positions=..., metadata=..., nsamps_per_buff=5000192, buffs=..., 
this=0x7fe7a00027f8)
at 
/opt/gnuradio/v3.8/src/uhd/host/lib/include/uhdlib/transport/rx_streamer_impl.hpp:311
#4  uhd::transport::rx_streamer_impl::recv (this=0x7fe7a00027f8, buffs=..., nsamps_per_buff=5000192,
metadata=..., timeout=, one_packet=)
at 
/opt/gnuradio/v3.8/src/uhd/host/lib/include/uhdlib/transport/rx_streamer_impl.hpp:143
#5  0x7fe7f8b6bbd5 in gr::uhd::usrp_source_impl::work (this=0x7fe7c80053d0, 
noutput_items=5000192,
input_items=std::vector of length 0, capacity 0, output_items=std::vector 
of length 2, capacity 2 = {...})
at /opt/gnuradio/v3.8/src/gnuradio/gr-uhd/lib/usrp_source_impl.cc:549
#6  0x7fe7f8690637 in gr::sync_block::general_work (this=0x7fe7c80055b0, 
noutput_items=, ninput_items=..., input_items=...,
output_items=...) at 
/opt/gnuradio/v3.8/src/gnuradio/gnuradio-runtime/lib/sync_block.cc:61
#7  0x7fe7f8644a45 in gr::block_executor::run_one_iteration 
(this=this@entry=0x7fe7c37fd8c0)
at 
/opt/gnuradio/v3.8/src/gnuradio/gnuradio-runtime/lib/block_executor.cc:514
#8  0x7fe7f869cc3c in gr::tpb_thread_body::tpb_thread_body 
(this=0x7fe7c37fd8c0, block=..., start_sync=..., max_noutput_items=)
at 
/opt/gnuradio/v3.8/src/gnuradio/gnuradio-runtime/lib/tpb_thread_body.cc:122
#9  0x7fe7f868d844 in gr::tpb_container::operator() (this=, 
this=, this=, this=,
this=) at 
/opt/gnuradio/v3.8/src/gnuradio/gnuradio-runtime/lib/scheduler_tpb.cc:50
#10 gr::thread::thread_body_wrapper::operator() 
(this=0x7fe7c8050810)
at 
/opt/gnuradio/v3.8/src/gnuradio/gnuradio-runtime/lib/../include/gnuradio/thread/thread_body_wrapper.h:52
#11 
boost::detail::function::void_function_obj_invoker0,
 void>::invoke (function_obj_ptr=...)
at /usr/include/boost/function/function_template.hpp:159
#12 0x7fe7f86a9a92 in boost::function0::operator() (this=) at /usr/include/boost/function/function_template.hpp:759
#13 boost::detail::thread_data >::run (this=) at /usr/include/boost/thread/detail/thread.hpp:116
#14 0x7fe7f5787bcd in ?? () from 
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_thread.so.1.65.1
#15 0x7fe7f99ae6db in start_thread (arg=0x7fe7c37fe700) at 
pthread_create.c:463
#16 0x7fe7f8ead61f in clone () at 
../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/x86_64/clone.S:95

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[USRP-users] Re: Help with collecting GNSS signals by using GNSS-SDR and USRP N210

2022-07-14 Thread Nikos Balkanas
Hi,

To set thread priority, you need to add your user to group usrp...
"D" means dropped packages. You are not reading fast enough.
Since your last run was also at 4 Mhz without any "D"s, it seems your
problem is with your hard disk I/O...

HTH
Nikos

On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 1:39 PM Marta Brkić  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> we have problem with collecting GNSS signals for GNSS spoofing by using USRP 
> N210 (daughterboard UBX-40), active GNSS antenna (GPSGlonass-36-N-GA) and 
> GNSS-SDR.
> Firstly, we followed all steps from GNSS-SDR configuration page and we 
> successfully got the position fixes with downloaded file of raw signal 
> samples as at the link.
> Afterwards, we tried to get the position fixes with active GNSS antenna but 
> unsuccessfully. We set all the parameters as at the instructions at the link 
> and ran 'my_GPS_receiver.conf' file. As the result, we got printed 'D' 
> (please see screenshots 1 and 2 attached). We tried to solve this problem by 
> following the instructions at ETTUS page but nothing worked in our case.
>
> Then, we tried to set the sampling frequency to 2MHz and there was no printed 
> 'D' after running the conf file. However, we didn't get the position fixes 
> and we only got 'Loss of lock in channel' (screenshot 3).  We searched for 
> the solution and we wonder if missed something or we do not have all 
> necessary equipment (we saw that bias-tee is needed for some daughterboards).
>
> We would be thankful if you could help us with our problem.
>
> Thank you in advance and best regards,
> Katarina Radoš and Marta Brkić
>
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[USRP-users] Re: Help with collecting GNSS signals by using GNSS-SDR and USRP N210

2022-07-14 Thread Nikos Balkanas
...or your locks. Are you locking your reader?
What exactly are you locking?

Nikos

On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 4:28 PM Nikos Balkanas  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> To set thread priority, you need to add your user to group usrp...
> "D" means dropped packages. You are not reading fast enough.
> Since your last run was also at 4 Mhz without any "D"s, it seems your
> problem is with your hard disk I/O...
>
> HTH
> Nikos
>
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 1:39 PM Marta Brkić  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > we have problem with collecting GNSS signals for GNSS spoofing by using 
> > USRP N210 (daughterboard UBX-40), active GNSS antenna (GPSGlonass-36-N-GA) 
> > and GNSS-SDR.
> > Firstly, we followed all steps from GNSS-SDR configuration page and we 
> > successfully got the position fixes with downloaded file of raw signal 
> > samples as at the link.
> > Afterwards, we tried to get the position fixes with active GNSS antenna but 
> > unsuccessfully. We set all the parameters as at the instructions at the 
> > link and ran 'my_GPS_receiver.conf' file. As the result, we got printed 'D' 
> > (please see screenshots 1 and 2 attached). We tried to solve this problem 
> > by following the instructions at ETTUS page but nothing worked in our case.
> >
> > Then, we tried to set the sampling frequency to 2MHz and there was no 
> > printed 'D' after running the conf file. However, we didn't get the 
> > position fixes and we only got 'Loss of lock in channel' (screenshot 3).  
> > We searched for the solution and we wonder if missed something or we do not 
> > have all necessary equipment (we saw that bias-tee is needed for some 
> > daughterboards).
> >
> > We would be thankful if you could help us with our problem.
> >
> > Thank you in advance and best regards,
> > Katarina Radoš and Marta Brkić
> >
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[USRP-users] Re: Help with collecting GNSS signals by using GNSS-SDR and USRP N210

2022-07-14 Thread Nikos Balkanas
Hi,

If you use SSDs, you are even faster than hard disks:)
RXLO is part of your UBX spec. I don't have one:(
It seems that it has to do something with locking your GPS positions...
A reader lock would be a lock on your reading, and could explain your
"D"s, dropped samples, when you use it.
That "RX" on the "RXLO" looks suspicious, but from your saying is just
a lock on the receiver location...
Could it be that until your N210 locks to a location, it receives
samples, and therefore drops them?
I don't know much about your configuration, so I better let someone
else with more knowledge about it, answer.

BR
Nikos

On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 4:46 PM Katarina Radoš  wrote:
>
> Hi Nikos,
>
> thank you for your response.
> We don't have HDD and we only have SSD on our laptop.
> Is it necessary to have hard disk in order to run this?
>
>  Regarding the locks, could you explain us what reader locking is exactly?
>
> Best regards,
> Katarina and Marta
> 
> From: Nikos Balkanas 
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 1:37 PM
> To: Marta Brkić 
> Cc: usrp-users@lists.ettus.com ; 
> usrp-users-requ...@lists.ettus.com ; 
> Katarina Radoš 
> Subject: Re: [USRP-users] Help with collecting GNSS signals by using GNSS-SDR 
> and USRP N210
>
> ...or your locks. Are you locking your reader?
> What exactly are you locking?
>
> Nikos
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 4:28 PM Nikos Balkanas  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > To set thread priority, you need to add your user to group usrp...
> > "D" means dropped packages. You are not reading fast enough.
> > Since your last run was also at 4 Mhz without any "D"s, it seems your
> > problem is with your hard disk I/O...
> >
> > HTH
> > Nikos
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 1:39 PM Marta Brkić  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > we have problem with collecting GNSS signals for GNSS spoofing by using 
> > > USRP N210 (daughterboard UBX-40), active GNSS antenna 
> > > (GPSGlonass-36-N-GA) and GNSS-SDR.
> > > Firstly, we followed all steps from GNSS-SDR configuration page and we 
> > > successfully got the position fixes with downloaded file of raw signal 
> > > samples as at the link.
> > > Afterwards, we tried to get the position fixes with active GNSS antenna 
> > > but unsuccessfully. We set all the parameters as at the instructions at 
> > > the link and ran 'my_GPS_receiver.conf' file. As the result, we got 
> > > printed 'D' (please see screenshots 1 and 2 attached). We tried to solve 
> > > this problem by following the instructions at ETTUS page but nothing 
> > > worked in our case.
> > >
> > > Then, we tried to set the sampling frequency to 2MHz and there was no 
> > > printed 'D' after running the conf file. However, we didn't get the 
> > > position fixes and we only got 'Loss of lock in channel' (screenshot 3).  
> > > We searched for the solution and we wonder if missed something or we do 
> > > not have all necessary equipment (we saw that bias-tee is needed for some 
> > > daughterboards).
> > >
> > > We would be thankful if you could help us with our problem.
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance and best regards,
> > > Katarina Radoš and Marta Brkić
> > >
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[USRP-users] Re: weird usrp coredump

2022-07-14 Thread Marcus D. Leech

On 2022-07-14 08:25, Jason Matusiak wrote:
Trying to run a C++ based flowgraph and occasionally getting a 
segfault/coredump.  Finally, was able to capture the stack trace, and 
I am not sure what to make of it.  I //think// that this is all UHD, 
and not my app, but I find that hard to believe.  Here is that core 
dump, any thoughts on what is causing this and if there is any way for 
more to gracefully recover from it?  This was using a single N320, 
gnuradio v3.8, and UHD 4.1.0.5.



I have not had any other reports.

One of the things about C/C++ (which you likely know) is that it's 
relatively easy for an application to corrupt heap or stack that some 
library relies on,and then something inside
  the library takes a left turn that it wouldn't otherwise take--this 
can make it *appear* that the library is the culprit, but it may well 
have been the calling application, often

  thousands of instructions ago...

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[USRP-users] Re: weird usrp coredump

2022-07-14 Thread Marcus Müller
But that application is the USRP block of GNU Radio, so you're at least not the first to 
use it :)



Wild stab:

So, this is run on your PC, right; are you sure that the GNU Radio you run was built 
against the UHD you're using? (This is basically asking how you installed both GNU Radio 
and UHD)



Best regards,

Marcus


On 14.07.22 22:23, Marcus D. Leech wrote:

On 2022-07-14 08:25, Jason Matusiak wrote:
Trying to run a C++ based flowgraph and occasionally getting a segfault/coredump.  
Finally, was able to capture the stack trace, and I am not sure what to make of it.  I 
//think// that this is all UHD, and not my app, but I find that hard to believe.  Here 
is that core dump, any thoughts on what is causing this and if there is any way for 
more to gracefully recover from it?  This was using a single N320, gnuradio v3.8, and 
UHD 4.1.0.5.



I have not had any other reports.

One of the things about C/C++ (which you likely know) is that it's relatively easy for 
an application to corrupt heap or stack that some library relies on,and then something 
inside
  the library takes a left turn that it wouldn't otherwise take--this can make it 
*appear* that the library is the culprit, but it may well have been the calling 
application, often

  thousands of instructions ago...



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[USRP-users] Re: Is it possible to control the sampling position of the baseband signal on the rx side of the usrp?

2022-07-14 Thread Kyeong Su Shin
Hello Fan:

USRPs (or any other general-purpose SDRs) do not do the timing recovery for 
you. It is designed to transmit arbitrary signals, so it simply does not have 
any idea about the "timing" of your signals. The mismatch in the internal 
oscillator clocks will cause phase drift over time.

You can try using external clock inputs (PPS and 10 MHz inputs) of the USRPs to 
forcefully synchronize them. This is often not practical in real-world wireless 
systems, though. It is great for some (albeit limited) applications and for 
debugging jobs.

Something else that you can do is implementing your own synchronization 
algorithms. You can either oversample your signals and then use signal 
processing frameworks (like GNU Radio) to do the recovery, or implement them on 
the FPGA of the B210. Both will give you the same performance, assuming that 
your USB port can handle the oversampled signals and the FPGA is sufficiently 
large for your purposes.

Regards,
Kyeong Su Shin

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제목: [USRP-users] Is it possible to control the sampling position of the 
baseband signal on the rx side of the usrp?


   Hi,everyone. I have the  question: Is it possible to control the 
sampling position of the baseband signal on the rx side of the usrp?

   The situation is as follows: I use a usrp b210 to transmit a set of 
16QAM signals, and receive this signal on the rx side of the same device, and 
repeat this several times. However, under the condition that the transmitted 
signal, tx gain, rx gain, channel frequency and other settings are unchanged, 
there are some differences in amplitude and phase between the received data 
each time. I never moved the position of b210, so the channel should be 
time-invariant.

   I think there are two possible reasons: First, even if the 
transmitted signal and transmit settings are the same each time, the signal 
actually transmitted by usrp each time is still different; second, the receiver 
does not sample at the optimal sampling point , but randomly samples.

   Firstly,let's discuss the second possibility. As far as I know, 
USRP's dsp module downconverts the received bandpass signal to baseband and 
then samples the baseband signal. a gardner loop is usually used to get the 
best sampling point from the sampled data (timing recovery), but the 
implementation of the gardner rings in 2x2 mimo with 16QAM is more difficult. 
Is there a UHD interface that can control the position of the sample points?
   Or, the real reason is the first?

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[USRP-users] Re: weird usrp coredump

2022-07-14 Thread Marcus D. Leech

On 2022-07-14 18:57, Marcus Müller wrote:
But that application is the USRP block of GNU Radio, so you're at 
least not the first to use it :)



Wild stab:

So, this is run on your PC, right; are you sure that the GNU Radio you 
run was built against the UHD you're using? (This is basically asking 
how you installed both GNU Radio and UHD)



Best regards,

Marcus
Indeed, mis-match between what an application was linked against, and 
what it has dynamically loaded can cause Bad Things(tm).  It's 
unfortunate that the
  *reality* of dynamically-linked, shared-library applications is that 
you *cannot* mix-and-match. This was one of the "promises" of DLLs 
"back in the day", when

  they were a shiny-new thing.  Sigh.

But my comment still holds to a certain degree.   If you're writing an 
app in C++ or C that uses Gnu Radio, you can still "paste" things in 
such a way that some

   "distant" library loses its lunch.  Been there.   Done that. Yikes.

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