ajp_get_reply, ajp_connection_tcp_get_message Errors

2007-05-16 Thread Alan

I have been trouble-shooting a problem that appears constantly in my
mod_jk.log but is
only visible intermittently to users for a few months now.  Searching the
web and this archive
for similar error messages, I have found some solutions that have led me to
better Apache and
Tomcat setups, but have not solved the problem.  The problem is that a
commercial application
we are serving via Apache/Tomcat will periodically display a "Service
Temporarily Unavailable"
message in a random frame within the application, refreshing the browser
usually allows the
users to recover but this becomes painful when users go through the
multi-step process of entering data
or uploading files only to be interrupted by this and have to start over.
Support for the
commercial application has not been particularly helpful so I am hoping to
find suggestions
here to further try to solve this problem.

Our setup is Apache 2.0.59 (Win32) mod_ssl/2.0.59 OpenSSL/0.9.8d
mod_jk/1.2.19 and
Tomcat 5.5.15 running on Windows Server 2003 R2 Service Pack 1.  I will
include httpd.conf,
ssl.conf, workers.properties, and server.xml below.

Regardless of whether or not users see the "Service Temporarily Unavailable"
message in
any of the frames within the application, my mod_jk.log is full of errors
like this:

[Fri Apr 27 09:38:14 2007] [2764:1792] [error]
ajp_get_reply::jk_ajp_common.c (1536): (myworker) Tomcat is down or refused
connection. No response has been sent to the client (yet)
[Fri Apr 27 09:38:22 2007] [2764:3596] [error]
ajp_connection_tcp_get_message::jk_ajp_common.c (947): (myworker) can't
receive the response message from tomcat, network problems or tomcat is down
(127.0.0.1:8009), err=-54
[Fri Apr 27 09:38:22 2007] [2764:3596] [error]
ajp_get_reply::jk_ajp_common.c (1536): (myworker) Tomcat is down or refused
connection. No response has been sent to the client (yet)
[Fri Apr 27 09:38:25 2007] [2764:2148] [error]
ajp_get_reply::jk_ajp_common.c (1536): (myworker) Tomcat is down or refused
connection. No response has been sent to the client (yet)
[Fri Apr 27 09:38:31 2007] [2764:1792] [error]
ajp_connection_tcp_send_message::jk_ajp_common.c (914): sendfull returned
-53 with errno=53
[Fri Apr 27 09:38:31 2007] [2764:1792] [error]
ajp_send_request::jk_ajp_common.c (1350): (myworker) error sending request
body

Setting my log level to debug does not tell me much more:

[Tue May 15 14:21:38 2007] [1804:3328] [debug] ajp_service::jk_ajp_common.c
(1734): processing myworker with 2 retries
[Tue May 15 14:21:38 2007] [1804:3328] [info]
ajp_send_request::jk_ajp_common.c (1170): (myworker) socket 748 is not
connected any more (errno=0)
[Tue May 15 14:21:38 2007] [1804:3328] [info]
ajp_send_request::jk_ajp_common.c (1194): (myworker) error sending request.
Will try another pooled connection
[Tue May 15 14:21:38 2007] [1804:3328] [info]
ajp_send_request::jk_ajp_common.c (1170): (myworker) socket 784 is not
connected any more (errno=0)
[Tue May 15 14:21:38 2007] [1804:3328] [info]
ajp_send_request::jk_ajp_common.c (1194): (myworker) error sending request.
Will try another pooled connection
[Tue May 15 14:21:38 2007] [1804:3328] [info]
ajp_send_request::jk_ajp_common.c (1218): (myworker) all endpoints are
disconnected or dead
[Tue May 15 14:21:38 2007] [1804:3328] [info]  ajp_service::jk_ajp_common.c
(1867): (myworker) sending request to tomcat failed,  recoverable operation
attempt=1

As these are the only errors I see in any of my log files, I am convinced
this is why users will
periodically see frames that think Tomcat is not responding, why users do
not see these unavailable
errors in frames every time it occurs in the mod_jk.log is a little beyond
me.  We are tied to this
version of Tomcat (5.5.15) and to Java 1.5.0_05 by the commercial
application we are running, for support
purposes, even though their support has been unable to help us.

Any help I can get to at least resolve the errors I see in the mod_jk.log
would be great or if you see any
other errors in my configuration, although I think I have corrected it
pretty well.  See below.

Thanks

Brice

workers.properties
#
workers.tomcat_home=D:\Tomcat5515
workers.java_home=D:\jdk1.5.0_05
ps=/
worker.list=myworker

worker.myworker.type=ajp13
worker.myworker.host=localhost
worker.myworker.port=8009
worker.myworker.cachesize=10
worker.myworker.cache_timeout=600
worker.myworker.socket_keepalive=1
worker.myworker.recycle_timeout=30
worker.myworker.lbfactor=1
#

ssl.conf
#

   Listen 443
   AddType application/x-x509-ca-cert .crt
   AddType application/x-pkcs7-crl.crl
   SSLPassPhraseDialog  builtin
   SSLSessionCache dbm:logs/ssl_scache
   SSLSessionCacheTimeout  1500
   SSLMutex default
   SSLRandomSeed startup builtin
   SSLRandomSeed connect builtin


#

httpd.conf snippet that I feel is relevant, I can post more if needed
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webapps examples and security manager

2009-09-22 Thread Alan
ions apply to the servlet API classes
// and those that are shared across all class loaders
// located in the "common" directory
grant codeBase "file:${catalina.home}/common/-" {
permission java.security.AllPermission;
};

// These permissions apply to the container's core code, plus any additional
// libraries installed in the "server" directory
grant codeBase "file:${catalina.home}/server/-" {
permission java.security.AllPermission;
};

// The permissions granted to the balancer WEB-INF/classes and
WEB-INF/lib directory
grant codeBase "file:${catalina.home}/webapps/balancer/-" {
permission java.lang.RuntimePermission
"accessClassInPackage.org.apache.tomcat.util.digester";
permission java.lang.RuntimePermission
"accessClassInPackage.org.apache.tomcat.util.digester.*";
};
// == WEB APPLICATION PERMISSIONS =


// These permissions are granted by default to all web applications
// In addition, a web application will be given a read FilePermission
// and JndiPermission for all files and directories in its document root.
grant {
// Required for JNDI lookup of named JDBC DataSource's and
// javamail named MimePart DataSource used to send mail
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "java.home", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "java.naming.*", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "javax.sql.*", "read";

// OS Specific properties to allow read access
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "os.name", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "os.version", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "os.arch", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "file.separator", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "path.separator", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "line.separator", "read";

// JVM properties to allow read access
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "java.version", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "java.vendor", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "java.vendor.url", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "java.class.version", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission
"java.specification.version", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "java.specification.vendor", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "java.specification.name", "read";

permission java.util.PropertyPermission
"java.vm.specification.version", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission
"java.vm.specification.vendor", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission
"java.vm.specification.name", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "java.vm.version", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "java.vm.vendor", "read";
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "java.vm.name", "read";

// Required for OpenJMX
permission java.lang.RuntimePermission "getAttribute";

// Allow read of JAXP compliant XML parser debug
permission java.util.PropertyPermission "jaxp.debug", "read";

// Precompiled JSPs need access to this package.
permission java.lang.RuntimePermission
"accessClassInPackage.org.apache.jasper.runtime";
permission java.lang.RuntimePermission
"accessClassInPackage.org.apache.jasper.runtime.*";

// Precompiled JSPs need access to this system property.
permission java.util.PropertyPermission
"org.apache.jasper.runtime.BodyContentImpl.LIMIT_BUFFER", "read";
};

Any help would be more than appreciated.

Many thanks in advance,

Alan

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Re: webapps examples and security manager

2009-09-22 Thread Alan
Thanks for your reply.

Not yet, which one would suggest me please?

Alan

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> Alan wrote:
> 
>> Any help would be more than appreciated.
>
> And when you try with a more recent version?
>
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Re: webapps examples and security manager

2009-09-23 Thread Alan
Ok, I downloaded the latest and did:

wget -c 
http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/sites/rsync.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-6/v6.0.20/bin/apache-tomcat-6.0.20.tar.gz
tar xvfz apache-tomcat-5.5.28.tar.gz # gnu tar
cd ~/Programmes/apache-tomcat-6.0.20
export CATALINA_HOME=$PWD
amadeus[2161]:~/Programmes/apache-tomcat-6.0.20%
$CATALINA_HOME/bin/catalina.sh run -securityUsing CATALINA_BASE:
/Users/alan/Programmes/apache-tomcat-6.0.20
Using CATALINA_HOME:   /Users/alan/Programmes/apache-tomcat-6.0.20
Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /Users/alan/Programmes/apache-tomcat-6.0.20/temp
Using JRE_HOME:
/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/CurrentJDK/Home
Using Security Manager
Please use CMSClassUnloadingEnabled in place of
CMSPermGenSweepingEnabled in the future
Could not load Logmanager "org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager"
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.lang.RuntimePermission setContextClassLoader)
at 
java.security.AccessControlContext.checkPermission(AccessControlContext.java:323)
[snip]

I got basically the same thing as in tomcat 5.5.

So, how do I do to make at least the webapps examples that come with
tomcat to run smoothly with security manager? How to tweak
catalina.policy in order to not see all this issues in log?

Many thanks in advance,

Alan


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 wrote:
>> From: Alan [mailto:alanwil...@gmail.com]
>> Subject: Re: webapps examples and security manager
>>
>> Not yet, which one would suggest me please?
>
> The latest, always (6.0.20).
>
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Re: webapps examples and security manager

2009-09-23 Thread Alan
Thanks Mark, let's deal by parts:

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 16:33, Mark Thomas  wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>> Ok, I downloaded the latest and did:
>>
>> wget -c 
>> http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/sites/rsync.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-6/v6.0.20/bin/apache-tomcat-6.0.20.tar.gz
>> tar xvfz apache-tomcat-5.5.28.tar.gz # gnu tar
>
> What is going on here? Which version of Tomcat are you using?

amadeus[2195]:~/Programmes% $CATALINA_HOME/bin/catalina.sh version
Using CATALINA_BASE:   /Users/alan/Programmes/apache-tomcat-6.0.20
Using CATALINA_HOME:   /Users/alan/Programmes/apache-tomcat-6.0.20
Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /Users/alan/Programmes/apache-tomcat-6.0.20/temp
Using JRE_HOME:
/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/CurrentJDK/Home
Server version: Apache Tomcat/6.0.20
Server built:   May 14 2009 01:13:50
Server number:  6.0.20.0
OS Name:Mac OS X
OS Version: 10.6.1
Architecture:   x86_64
JVM Version:1.6.0_15-b03-219
JVM Vendor: Apple Inc.

>> cd ~/Programmes/apache-tomcat-6.0.20
>> export CATALINA_HOME=$PWD
>> amadeus[2161]:~/Programmes/apache-tomcat-6.0.20%
>> $CATALINA_HOME/bin/catalina.sh run -securityUsing CATALINA_BASE:
>> /Users/alan/Programmes/apache-tomcat-6.0.20
>> Using CATALINA_HOME:   /Users/alan/Programmes/apache-tomcat-6.0.20
>> Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /Users/alan/Programmes/apache-tomcat-6.0.20/temp
>> Using JRE_HOME:
>> /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/CurrentJDK/Home
>
> Which JVM is this? What does:
> java -version
> return?

amadeus[2197]:~/Programmes% java -version
java version "1.6.0_15"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_15-b03-219)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 14.1-b02-90, mixed mode)

>> Using Security Manager
>> Please use CMSClassUnloadingEnabled in place of
>> CMSPermGenSweepingEnabled in the future
>
> Hmm. You shouldn't see that with a default Tomcat install so it looks
> like you aren't running what you think you are running.

Indeed, testing on Ubuntu, I don't get this message.

More below.

>> Could not load Logmanager "org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager"
>> java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
>> (java.lang.RuntimePermission setContextClassLoader)
>>       at 
>> java.security.AccessControlContext.checkPermission(AccessControlContext.java:323)
>> [snip]
>
> This works out of the for me on Leopard. I don't have access to a
> machine with Snow Leopard although it is unlikely that is the issue.
>
>> So, how do I do to make at least the webapps examples that come with
>> tomcat to run smoothly with security manager? How to tweak
>> catalina.policy in order to not see all this issues in log?
>
> Indications are you aren't running a vanilla Tomcat 6.0.20 install. A
> clean install works for me in Windows, OSX and linux.
>
> Mark

I frankly don't understand what's going on, so I will put in a sort of
script-like what I did. First I got tomcat from
http://tomcat.apache.org/download-60.cgi (Binary distr. -> Core).
Should I get the source code and compile myself?

#--
# commands
cd
# get binary core package from a mirror
wget -c 
http://mirror.lividpenguin.com/pub/apache/tomcat/tomcat-6/v6.0.20/bin/apache-tomcat-6.0.20.tar.gz

# uncompress with gnu tar
tar xvfz apache-tomcat-6.0.20.tar.gz

cd apache-tomcat-6.0.20
export CATALINA_HOME=$PWD

$CATALINA_HOME/bin/catalina.sh version

$CATALINA_HOME/bin/catalina.sh run -security
#--

I did the same commands in a clean install of Ubuntu Linux 9.04 64
bits and got the same problem. I would love to see what you get doing
the commands above, or please tell me what should I change if they are
not OK.

>From Ubuntu:

a...@ubuntu:~/apache-tomcat-6.0.20/logs$ $CATALINA_HOME/bin/catalina.sh version
Using CATALINA_BASE:   /home/alan/apache-tomcat-6.0.20
Using CATALINA_HOME:   /home/alan/apache-tomcat-6.0.20
Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /home/alan/apache-tomcat-6.0.20/temp
Using JRE_HOME:   /usr
Server version: Apache Tomcat/6.0.20
Server built:   May 14 2009 01:13:50
Server number:  6.0.20.0
OS Name:Linux
OS Version: 2.6.28-15-generic
Architecture:   amd64
JVM Version:    1.6.0_16-b01
JVM Vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc.

a...@ubuntu:~/apache-tomcat-6.0.20/logs$
$CATALINA_HOME/bin/catalina.sh run -security
Using CATALINA_BASE:   /home/alan/apache-tomcat-6.0.20
Using CATALINA_HOME:   /home/alan/apache-tomcat-6.0.20
Using CATALINA_TMPDIR: /home/alan/apache-tomcat-6.0.20/temp
Using JRE_HOME:   /usr
Using Security Manager
Could not load Logmanager "org.apache.juli.ClassLoaderLogManager"
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.lang.RuntimePermission setContextCla

Re: webapps examples and security manager

2009-09-23 Thread Alan
Many thanks dear Mark.

It's late here too but I finally, with your diligent and precious
help, I could figure out what's going on here and even manage to have
tomcat with security working for tomcat6.0.20 and tomcat5.5.28 (but
not for tomcat5.5.26, last version available for Mac via Fink).

Thank you very much.

Alan

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 21:42, Mark Thomas  wrote:
> Mark Thomas wrote:
>> Mark Thomas wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>> Thanks Mark, let's deal by parts:
>>> OK. I've reproduced it. It is happening with 1.6.0_14 and 1.6.0_16 JVMs
>>> but not a 1.6.0_00 JVM.
>>>
>>> The latest 1.5 JVM seems OK too.
>>>
>>> Time to check the release notes. I'll hopefully have a workaround (other
>>> than using Java 1.5) shortly.
>>
>> Still not clear why it is required for later JVM versions
>
> 
>
> It is late and I have been in front my PC for too long today. This has
> already been fixed (by me!) in trunk and proposed for 6.0.x and 5.5.x.
> It looks the implementation of LogManager (ClassLoaderLogManager extends
> LogManager) has changed - hence the need for the new permission.
>
> Mark
>
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Re: webapps examples and security manager

2009-09-24 Thread Alan
Hallelujah!

I finally figured out what's going on with tomcat 5.5.26 when running
webapps in security mode.

In Ubuntu 9.04, with just the addition of 'permission
java.lang.RuntimePermission "setContextClassLoader";' in
catalina.policy solved the problem. This is happen because ubuntu has
its own way of starting the deamon and apparently they fixed some
problems that in tomcat 5.5.26 official distribution is not.

Since Fink also use the official distribution, I found out that I need
to tweak catalina.policy a bit further there. See the patch:

--- catalina.policy 2009-09-24 13:51:41.00000 +0100
+++ /Users/alan/SCRIPTS/catalina.policy 2009-09-24 13:50:24.0 +0100
@@ -66,7 +66,7 @@
 };

 // These permissions apply to the commons-logging API
-grant codeBase "file:${catalina.home}/bin/commons-logging-api.jar" {
+grant codeBase "file:${catalina.home}/bin/commons-logging-api-1.1.1.jar" {
 permission java.security.AllPermission;
 };

@@ -82,6 +82,7 @@

 // These permissions apply to JULI
 grant codeBase "file:${catalina.home}/bin/tomcat-juli.jar" {
+permission java.lang.RuntimePermission "setContextClassLoader";
 permission java.util.PropertyPermission
"java.util.logging.config.class", "read";
 permission java.util.PropertyPermission
"java.util.logging.config.file", "read";
 permission java.lang.RuntimePermission "shutdownHooks";
@@ -95,6 +96,8 @@
 // Be sure that the logging configuration is secure before
enabling such access
 // eg for the examples web application:
 // permission java.io.FilePermission
"${catalina.base}${file.separator}webapps${file.separator}examples${file.separator}WEB-INF${file.separator}classes${file.separator}logging.properties",
"read";
+permission java.io.FilePermission
"${catalina.base}${file.separator}webapps${file.separator}jsp-examples${file.separator}WEB-INF${file.separator}classes${file.separator}logging.properties",
"read";
+permission java.io.FilePermission
"${catalina.base}${file.separator}webapps${file.separator}servlets-examples${file.separator}WEB-INF${file.separator}classes${file.separator}logging.properties",
"read";
 };

 // These permissions apply to the servlet API classes


This basic solved my problems.

Alan

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 22:58, Alan  wrote:
> Many thanks dear Mark.
>
> It's late here too but I finally, with your diligent and precious
> help, I could figure out what's going on here and even manage to have
> tomcat with security working for tomcat6.0.20 and tomcat5.5.28 (but
> not for tomcat5.5.26, last version available for Mac via Fink).
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Alan
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 21:42, Mark Thomas  wrote:
>> Mark Thomas wrote:
>>> Mark Thomas wrote:
>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>> Thanks Mark, let's deal by parts:
>>>> OK. I've reproduced it. It is happening with 1.6.0_14 and 1.6.0_16 JVMs
>>>> but not a 1.6.0_00 JVM.
>>>>
>>>> The latest 1.5 JVM seems OK too.
>>>>
>>>> Time to check the release notes. I'll hopefully have a workaround (other
>>>> than using Java 1.5) shortly.
>>>
>>> Still not clear why it is required for later JVM versions
>>
>> 
>>
>> It is late and I have been in front my PC for too long today. This has
>> already been fixed (by me!) in trunk and proposed for 6.0.x and 5.5.x.
>> It looks the implementation of LogManager (ClassLoaderLogManager extends
>> LogManager) has changed - hence the need for the new permission.
>>
>> Mark
>>
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Re: webapps examples and security manager

2009-09-24 Thread Alan
Well, I'll try to make it clearer:

Situation: Ubuntu 9.04 with SUN Java 1.6 and tomcat 5.5.26 with
security mode (default in Debian/Ubuntu).

Testing tomcat-webapps examples.

A clean install and everything seems to work, except that nothing is
written in /var/log/tomcat5.5

To solve this issue, I had to add:

permission java.lang.RuntimePermission "setContextClassLoader";

in /etc/tomcat5.5/policy.d/03catalina.policy.

If using openJDK instead of Sun Java, this is not necessary.

The patch I sent before is for those using tomcat5.5.26 in Mac OSX and
Fink use this distribution.

Did it help?

Alan

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 14:57, Pid  wrote:
> On 24/09/2009 14:11, Alan wrote:
>>
>> Hallelujah!
>>
>> I finally figured out what's going on with tomcat 5.5.26 when running
>> webapps in security mode.
>>
>> In Ubuntu 9.04, with just the addition of 'permission
>> java.lang.RuntimePermission "setContextClassLoader";' in
>> catalina.policy solved the problem. This is happen because ubuntu has
>> its own way of starting the deamon and apparently they fixed some
>> problems that in tomcat 5.5.26 official distribution is not.
>
> Really?  Could you let us know what?
>
> p
>
>
>> Since Fink also use the official distribution, I found out that I need
>> to tweak catalina.policy a bit further there. See the patch:
>>
>> --- catalina.policy     2009-09-24 13:51:41.0 +0100
>> +++ /Users/alan/SCRIPTS/catalina.policy 2009-09-24 13:50:24.0
>> +0100
>> @@ -66,7 +66,7 @@
>>  };
>>
>>  // These permissions apply to the commons-logging API
>> -grant codeBase "file:${catalina.home}/bin/commons-logging-api.jar" {
>> +grant codeBase "file:${catalina.home}/bin/commons-logging-api-1.1.1.jar"
>> {
>>          permission java.security.AllPermission;
>>  };
>>
>> @@ -82,6 +82,7 @@
>>
>>  // These permissions apply to JULI
>>  grant codeBase "file:${catalina.home}/bin/tomcat-juli.jar" {
>> +        permission java.lang.RuntimePermission "setContextClassLoader";
>>          permission java.util.PropertyPermission
>> "java.util.logging.config.class", "read";
>>          permission java.util.PropertyPermission
>> "java.util.logging.config.file", "read";
>>          permission java.lang.RuntimePermission "shutdownHooks";
>> @@ -95,6 +96,8 @@
>>          // Be sure that the logging configuration is secure before
>> enabling such access
>>          // eg for the examples web application:
>>          // permission java.io.FilePermission
>>
>> "${catalina.base}${file.separator}webapps${file.separator}examples${file.separator}WEB-INF${file.separator}classes${file.separator}logging.properties",
>> "read";
>> +        permission java.io.FilePermission
>>
>> "${catalina.base}${file.separator}webapps${file.separator}jsp-examples${file.separator}WEB-INF${file.separator}classes${file.separator}logging.properties",
>> "read";
>> +        permission java.io.FilePermission
>>
>> "${catalina.base}${file.separator}webapps${file.separator}servlets-examples${file.separator}WEB-INF${file.separator}classes${file.separator}logging.properties",
>> "read";
>>  };
>>
>>  // These permissions apply to the servlet API classes
>>
>>
>> This basic solved my problems.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 22:58, Alan  wrote:
>>>
>>> Many thanks dear Mark.
>>>
>>> It's late here too but I finally, with your diligent and precious
>>> help, I could figure out what's going on here and even manage to have
>>> tomcat with security working for tomcat6.0.20 and tomcat5.5.28 (but
>>> not for tomcat5.5.26, last version available for Mac via Fink).
>>>
>>> Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 21:42, Mark Thomas  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mark Thomas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Thomas wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Mark, let's deal by parts:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK. I've reproduced it. It is happening with 1.6.0_14 and 1.6.0_16
>>>>>> JVMs
>>>>>> but not a 1.6.0_00 JVM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The latest 1.5 JVM seems OK too.
>&

my webapps and security manager

2009-09-29 Thread Alan
* read,write)
at 
java.security.AccessControlContext.checkPermission(AccessControlContext.java:323)
[snip]

Is not 'permission java.util.PropertyPermission "*", "read,write";'
too lax? If so, how then can I find out what
"java.security.AccessControlException: access denied
(java.util.PropertyPermission * read,write)" wants to tell me?

Obviously I am doing something wrong, but the fact I've been playing
with that for more than a week and I'm getting really tired, which is
likely weakening my sense of observation and reason and I am probably
skipping something obvious if not the whole thing at all.

Any help would be very very appreciated.

Many thanks in advance,
Alan
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Fwd: NoClassDefFoundError: javax/mail/Authenticator

2024-10-24 Thread Alan Masters
I am attempting to send e-mail from Tomcat using an external mail host 
-  mail.btinternet.com.


I have included javax.mail jar in my build path and can see 
javax.mail.Authenticator in this library.


When trying to start up  apache-tomcat-9.0.91 I get 
IllegalStateException: Error starting child


   Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax/mail/Authenticator

any help would be appreciated please.


Where do find debug logging

2023-09-12 Thread Alan F
We have some applications which are pushing out to their own applogs clearly 
showing 'Debug' on most lines with a large amount of data and CI.

I would like to find out where the app team are setting this level, I have 
check in the obvious in the war files as it's a Spring Boot app in 
application.properties and logback.xml but mention error only there. Any advice 
appreciated thanks




Dealing with an insecure Struts application on Tomcat

2023-10-19 Thread Alan F
I am looking at security steps to mitigate issues with a 1.x Struts based app.

I have recommended the following until an upgrade resource is available

Remove application from current shared datasource
Remediate high risk CVE scored vulnerabilities (x4 with high EPSS rating)
Reduce exposure to internal audience.
Create new db and instance for above isolated datasource

Would you take it further and ensure this runs on it's own separate Tomcat 
instance?
Any other recommendations?





Problem starting Tomcat localhost

2024-08-01 Thread Alan Masters
I have configured apache-tomcat-9.0.91 to run as localhost:8080 on 
Windows 11.


Once I have executed the startup.bat, and open localhost:8080 and get:

   If you're seeing this, you've successfully installed Tomcat.
   Congratulations

However frequently when closing down with shutdown.bat and re-starting 
with startup.bat then opening localhost:8080 I get:



 HTTP Status 404 – Not Found

   

   *Type*Status Report

   *Message*The requested resource [/] is not available

   *Description*The origin server did not find a current representation
   for the target resource or is not willing to disclose that one exists.

   


 Apache Tomcat/9.0.91

After various attempts to shutdown / re-start I get some success, but 
this is quite frustrating and makes using it for testing purposes difficult.


Any suggestions would be welcome.

Alan.


How to Call a Java Class in JSP

2024-08-03 Thread Alan Masters

Hello,

I am attempting to revise on JSP which I used as a full time developer 
before my retirement over 8 years ago.


The article How to Call a Java Class in JSP 
<https://www.javaguides.net/2019/01/how-to-call-java-class-in-jsp.html#google_vignette> 
provides a simple example of the code, but avoids explaining how to 
deploy to Tomcat.


I have created a WAR file from this example and attempted to deploy via 
the "Tomcat Web Application Manager"  which does not work.  I suspect I 
need a web.xml file, but not clear how that should be organised.


So sorry for this basic question, but I would be very grateful for some 
simple guidance.


Alan.



Re: How to Call a Java Class in JSP

2024-08-03 Thread Alan Masters
:

Alan,

On 03.08.2024 17:33, Alan Masters wrote:

Hello,

I am attempting to revise on JSP which I used as a full time 
developer before my retirement over 8 years ago.


The article How to Call a Java Class in JSP 
<https://www.javaguides.net/2019/01/how-to-call-java-class-in-jsp.html#google_vignette> 
provides a simple example of the code, but avoids explaining how to 
deploy to Tomcat.


I have created a WAR file from this example and attempted to deploy 
via the "Tomcat Web Application Manager"  which does not work.  I 
suspect I need a web.xml file, but not clear how that should be 
organised.

How did you create the WAR file?
Usually you just drop the WAR file into tomcat/webapps and the app 
will be deployed automatically. If you want to redeploy the app, just 
overwrite the existing WAR file with the updated one.


Also, what "does not work"? Any errors? Please look into the log files 
in tomcat/logs.


Sebastian

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Re: How to Call a Java Class in JSP

2024-08-04 Thread Alan Masters
Many thanks Sebastian, I was over-complicating what appears to be a 
fairly straightforward matter.


Alan.


On 03/08/2024 17:51, Sebastian Trost wrote:

Alan,

On 03.08.2024 18:19, Alan Masters wrote:


This is the extract from the logs:

    03-Aug-2024 15:15:16.500 SEVERE [http-nio-8080-exec-10]
    org.apache.catalina.startup.ExpandWar.copy Error copying
    [C:\Program
Files\apache-tomcat-9.0.91\apache-tomcat-9.0.91\webapps\Downloads\CalculatorJSP.war]
    to [C:\Program
Files\apache-tomcat-9.0.91\apache-tomcat-9.0.91\webapps\CalculatorJSP.war]
        java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Program
Files\apache-tomcat-9.0.91\apache-tomcat-9.0.91\webapps\Downloads\CalculatorJSP.war
    (The system cannot find the path specified)



I'm not sure what you're doing - please just manually drop your 
CalculatorJSP.war in C:\Program 
Files\apache-tomcat-9.0.91\apache-tomcat-9.0.91\webapps. Then check if 
inside the webapps directory a new directory calles 'CalculatorJSP' 
has been created. If so, please try to open 
http://localhost:8080/CalculatorJSP/calculator.jsp with your browser.


Sebastian

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Tomcat Unable to Read JNDI xml file

2021-09-16 Thread Alan Tham
I have just created a JNDI file for the spring boot application to read in the 
db info





But I have this error during startup:

java.util.InvalidPropertiesFormatException: org.xml.sax.SAXParseException; 
lineNumber: 2; columnNumber: 53; Document root element "Context", must match 
DOCTYPE root "null".

I think there is something wrong with the DOCTYPE. How should I specify it?

Please help. Thanks.

Alan
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Tomcat 9 Encrpytion of JDBC

2022-01-14 Thread Alan F
All,

Interested to know your best practices on securing jdbc plain text passwords, 
in my last place they used a mechanism to encrypt all passwords. Is this the 
best method as I read some people don't recommend this. Any details or procs on 
best practice appreciated.

Thanks

Ken

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RE: Tomcat 9 Encrpytion of JDBC

2022-01-14 Thread Alan F
OK thanks Bill! 

-Original Message-
From: Bill Stewart  
Sent: 14 January 2022 19:02
To: Tomcat Users List 
Subject: Re: Tomcat 9 Encrpytion of JDBC

On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 10:25 AM Alan F wrote:


> Interested to know your best practices on securing jdbc plain text 
> passwords, in my last place they used a mechanism to encrypt all passwords.
> Is this the best method as I read some people don't recommend this. 
> Any details or procs on best practice appreciated.
>

The "best practice," generally speaking, is that doing so is basically 
pointless from a security perspective.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TOMCAT/Password

Bill


Tomcat jdbc connections

2022-01-20 Thread Alan F
I have an issue with connections on Tomcat9 Oracle showing connections made for 
about 2seconds then dropped again. Is this normal when the server is not being 
used?

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RE: Tomcat jdbc connections

2022-01-21 Thread Alan F
Hi Christopher

Thanks for your time here.

You mean like, a connection is made, no queries are executed, and then the 
connection is terminated? 
- ANSWER -  DBAs are saying connections last a minute or so and are replaced by 
a new set of connections 1 session each pool. 


Presumably, you have an application running on Tomcat with a JDBC connection 
configured. Are you using Tomcat's built-in pooling, or is your application 
managing its own pooling/connections? 
- ANSWER we are using dbcp2 


Do you have any background tasks (in the JVM) that will run even when there is 
no user activity? Cache-management? Lazy-writes? 
- ANSWER I don't think so. 


Are you using Tomcat's clustering? Are you using a database-backed session 
management or any kind? -  
- ANSWER YES clustered B node down, A node up this Tomcat node is not live or 
receiving any traffic currently in test.


Are the connections definitely being made from the application itself and/or 
Tomcat? Or do you just see those connections coming from the IP where the 
application is running? - ANSWER im assuming according to server.xml they are 
utlising these declared connections via Tomcat. 


Do you have any background tasks (outside the JVM) that will run even when 
there are no user actions? For example, some monitoring system that pings the 
server to say "can you reach the database?" - ANSWER NO


O

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Schultz  
Sent: 20 January 2022 17:34
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tomcat jdbc connections

Alan,

On 1/20/22 09:33, Alan F wrote:
> I have an issue with connections on Tomcat9 Oracle showing connections 
> made for about 2seconds then dropped again. Is this normal when the 
> server is not being used?
You mean like, a connection is made, no queries are executed, and then the 
connection is terminated?

Presumably, you have an application running on Tomcat with a JDBC connection 
configured. Are you using Tomcat's built-in pooling, or is your application 
managing its own pooling/connections?

Do you have any background tasks (in the JVM) that will run even when there is 
no user activity? Cache-management? Lazy-writes?

Are you using Tomcat's clustering? Are you using a database-backed session 
management or any kind?

Are the connections definitely being made from the application itself and/or 
Tomcat? Or do you just see those connections coming from the IP where the 
application is running?

Do you have any background tasks (outside the JVM) that will run even when 
there are no user actions? For example, some monitoring system that pings the 
server to say "can you reach the database?"

-chris

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RE: Tomcat jdbc connections

2022-01-21 Thread Alan F
Thanks John,

Here is an example of a connection below I see timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis 
but not maxConnLifetimeMillis if the server has no traffic does this mean 




So above does that mean every 60 secs Eviction runs, does this mean a server 
with no traffic evicts unused connections to DB?


-Original Message-
From: john.e.gr...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID  
Sent: 21 January 2022 14:50
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: RE: Tomcat jdbc connections

Alan,


> -Original Message-
> From: Alan F 
> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 6:53 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List 
> Subject: RE: Tomcat jdbc connections
> 
> Hi Christopher
> 
> Thanks for your time here.
> 
> You mean like, a connection is made, no queries are executed, and then 
> the connection is terminated?
> - ANSWER -  DBAs are saying connections last a minute or so and are 
> replaced by a new set of connections 1 session each pool.
> 
> 
> Presumably, you have an application running on Tomcat with a JDBC 
> connection configured. Are you using Tomcat's built-in pooling, or is 
> your application managing its own pooling/connections?
> - ANSWER we are using dbcp2
> 
> 
> Do you have any background tasks (in the JVM) that will run even when 
> there is no user activity? Cache-management? Lazy-writes?
> - ANSWER I don't think so.
> 
> 
> Are you using Tomcat's clustering? Are you using a database-backed 
> session management or any kind? -
> - ANSWER YES clustered B node down, A node up this Tomcat node is not 
> live or receiving any traffic currently in test.
> 
> 
> Are the connections definitely being made from the application itself 
> and/or Tomcat? Or do you just see those connections coming from the IP 
> where the application is running? - ANSWER im assuming according to 
> server.xml they are utlising these declared connections via Tomcat.
> 
> 
> Do you have any background tasks (outside the JVM) that will run even 
> when there are no user actions? For example, some monitoring system 
> that pings the server to say "can you reach the database?" - ANSWER NO
> 
> 
> O
> 

Could your pool be closing the connections after a set time?  Look at 
timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis and maxConnLifetimeMillis here:

https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-dbcp/configuration.html
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RE: Tomcat jdbc connections

2022-01-21 Thread Alan F
Ok thanks Phil ok I checked other connections in the same host and see 
minIdle="2" and initialSize="7" 

Ive run a diff on this server.xml between our active prod hosts which shows 
connections on Toad up for at least a day as to this idle server reconnecting 
after minutes!  And diff is identical apart from Cluster ips. 




-Original Message-
From: Phil Steitz  
Sent: 21 January 2022 16:10
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tomcat jdbc connections



On 1/21/22 8:19 AM, Alan F wrote:
> Thanks John,
>
> Here is an example of a connection below I see 
> timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis but not maxConnLifetimeMillis if the 
> server has no traffic does this mean
>
>  timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis="6" testWhileIdle="true" 
> testOnReturn="false"
> testOnBorrow="true" removeAbandonedOnBorrow="true" maxWaitmillis="3" 
> defaultQueryTimeout="30" validationQuery="select * from dual" maxTotal="10" 
> maxIdle="5"
> url="jdbc:oracle:thin:@XXX:X:" username="XXX" 
> password=""  driverClassName="oracle.jdbc.OracleDriver" />
>
>
> So above does that mean every 60 secs Eviction runs, does this mean a server 
> with no traffic evicts unused connections to DB?

One more note on this config.  Since you have not specified minIIdle or 
initialSize, the pool will not create connections until they are requested by 
clients.

Phil
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: john.e.gr...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID 
> 
> Sent: 21 January 2022 14:50
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Tomcat jdbc connections
>
> Alan,
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Alan F 
>> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 6:53 AM
>> To: Tomcat Users List 
>> Subject: RE: Tomcat jdbc connections
>>
>> Hi Christopher
>>
>> Thanks for your time here.
>>
>> You mean like, a connection is made, no queries are executed, and 
>> then the connection is terminated?
>> - ANSWER -  DBAs are saying connections last a minute or so and are 
>> replaced by a new set of connections 1 session each pool.
>>
>>
>> Presumably, you have an application running on Tomcat with a JDBC 
>> connection configured. Are you using Tomcat's built-in pooling, or is 
>> your application managing its own pooling/connections?
>> - ANSWER we are using dbcp2
>>
>>
>> Do you have any background tasks (in the JVM) that will run even when 
>> there is no user activity? Cache-management? Lazy-writes?
>> - ANSWER I don't think so.
>>
>>
>> Are you using Tomcat's clustering? Are you using a database-backed 
>> session management or any kind? -
>> - ANSWER YES clustered B node down, A node up this Tomcat node is not 
>> live or receiving any traffic currently in test.
>>
>>
>> Are the connections definitely being made from the application itself 
>> and/or Tomcat? Or do you just see those connections coming from the 
>> IP where the application is running? - ANSWER im assuming according 
>> to server.xml they are utlising these declared connections via Tomcat.
>>
>>
>> Do you have any background tasks (outside the JVM) that will run even 
>> when there are no user actions? For example, some monitoring system 
>> that pings the server to say "can you reach the database?" - ANSWER 
>> NO
>>
>>
>> O
>>
> Could your pool be closing the connections after a set time?  Look at 
> timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis and maxConnLifetimeMillis here:
>
> https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-dbcp/configuration.html
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RE: Tomcat jdbc connections

2022-01-21 Thread Alan F
Thanks for your input Phil! Arghh will keep looking.

-Original Message-
From: Phil Steitz  
Sent: 21 January 2022 17:50
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tomcat jdbc connections



On 1/21/22 9:28 AM, Alan F wrote:
> Ok thanks Phil ok I checked other connections in the same host and see 
> minIdle="2" and initialSize="7"
>
> Ive run a diff on this server.xml between our active prod hosts which shows 
> connections on Toad up for at least a day as to this idle server reconnecting 
> after minutes!  And diff is identical apart from Cluster ips.
Most likely culprit is network or other issue causing validations to fail.  
With testWhileIdle on, idle connections in the pool will be tested when visited 
and closed if validation fails.

Phil
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Steitz 
> Sent: 21 January 2022 16:10
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Tomcat jdbc connections
>
>
>
> On 1/21/22 8:19 AM, Alan F wrote:
>> Thanks John,
>>
>> Here is an example of a connection below I see 
>> timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis but not maxConnLifetimeMillis if the 
>> server has no traffic does this mean
>>
>> > timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis="6" testWhileIdle="true" 
>> testOnReturn="false"
>> testOnBorrow="true" removeAbandonedOnBorrow="true" maxWaitmillis="3" 
>> defaultQueryTimeout="30" validationQuery="select * from dual" maxTotal="10" 
>> maxIdle="5"
>> url="jdbc:oracle:thin:@XXX:X:" username="XXX"
>> password=""  driverClassName="oracle.jdbc.OracleDriver" />
>>
>>
>> So above does that mean every 60 secs Eviction runs, does this mean a server 
>> with no traffic evicts unused connections to DB?
> One more note on this config.  Since you have not specified minIIdle or 
> initialSize, the pool will not create connections until they are requested by 
> clients.
>
> Phil
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: john.e.gr...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID
>> 
>> Sent: 21 January 2022 14:50
>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: Tomcat jdbc connections
>>
>> Alan,
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Alan F 
>>> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 6:53 AM
>>> To: Tomcat Users List 
>>> Subject: RE: Tomcat jdbc connections
>>>
>>> Hi Christopher
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time here.
>>>
>>> You mean like, a connection is made, no queries are executed, and 
>>> then the connection is terminated?
>>> - ANSWER -  DBAs are saying connections last a minute or so and are 
>>> replaced by a new set of connections 1 session each pool.
>>>
>>>
>>> Presumably, you have an application running on Tomcat with a JDBC 
>>> connection configured. Are you using Tomcat's built-in pooling, or 
>>> is your application managing its own pooling/connections?
>>> - ANSWER we are using dbcp2
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have any background tasks (in the JVM) that will run even 
>>> when there is no user activity? Cache-management? Lazy-writes?
>>> - ANSWER I don't think so.
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you using Tomcat's clustering? Are you using a database-backed 
>>> session management or any kind? -
>>> - ANSWER YES clustered B node down, A node up this Tomcat node is 
>>> not live or receiving any traffic currently in test.
>>>
>>>
>>> Are the connections definitely being made from the application 
>>> itself and/or Tomcat? Or do you just see those connections coming 
>>> from the IP where the application is running? - ANSWER im assuming 
>>> according to server.xml they are utlising these declared connections via 
>>> Tomcat.
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have any background tasks (outside the JVM) that will run 
>>> even when there are no user actions? For example, some monitoring 
>>> system that pings the server to say "can you reach the database?" - 
>>> ANSWER NO
>>>
>>>
>>> O
>>>
>> Could your pool be closing the connections after a set time?  Look at 
>> timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis and maxConnLifetimeMillis here:
>>
>> https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-dbcp/configuration.html
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RE: Tomcat jdbc connections

2022-01-23 Thread Alan F
Can I just follow up here what would be the next steps how would I go about 
capturing the root cause of these very short connection times to Oracle from 
Tomcat. 
Would it be along the lines of Wireshark or TCP dump to see what's occurring as 
I gather this won't be captured in tomcat logging via Catalina.out? Or can it 
be. 



-Original Message-
From: Phil Steitz  
Sent: 21 January 2022 17:50
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tomcat jdbc connections



On 1/21/22 9:28 AM, Alan F wrote:
> Ok thanks Phil ok I checked other connections in the same host and see 
> minIdle="2" and initialSize="7"
>
> Ive run a diff on this server.xml between our active prod hosts which shows 
> connections on Toad up for at least a day as to this idle server reconnecting 
> after minutes!  And diff is identical apart from Cluster ips.
Most likely culprit is network or other issue causing validations to fail.  
With testWhileIdle on, idle connections in the pool will be tested when visited 
and closed if validation fails.

Phil
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Steitz 
> Sent: 21 January 2022 16:10
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Tomcat jdbc connections
>
>
>
> On 1/21/22 8:19 AM, Alan F wrote:
>> Thanks John,
>>
>> Here is an example of a connection below I see 
>> timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis but not maxConnLifetimeMillis if the 
>> server has no traffic does this mean
>>
>> > timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis="6" testWhileIdle="true" 
>> testOnReturn="false"
>> testOnBorrow="true" removeAbandonedOnBorrow="true" maxWaitmillis="3" 
>> defaultQueryTimeout="30" validationQuery="select * from dual" maxTotal="10" 
>> maxIdle="5"
>> url="jdbc:oracle:thin:@XXX:X:" username="XXX"
>> password=""  driverClassName="oracle.jdbc.OracleDriver" />
>>
>>
>> So above does that mean every 60 secs Eviction runs, does this mean a server 
>> with no traffic evicts unused connections to DB?
> One more note on this config.  Since you have not specified minIIdle or 
> initialSize, the pool will not create connections until they are requested by 
> clients.
>
> Phil
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: john.e.gr...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID
>> 
>> Sent: 21 January 2022 14:50
>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: Tomcat jdbc connections
>>
>> Alan,
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Alan F 
>>> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 6:53 AM
>>> To: Tomcat Users List 
>>> Subject: RE: Tomcat jdbc connections
>>>
>>> Hi Christopher
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time here.
>>>
>>> You mean like, a connection is made, no queries are executed, and 
>>> then the connection is terminated?
>>> - ANSWER -  DBAs are saying connections last a minute or so and are 
>>> replaced by a new set of connections 1 session each pool.
>>>
>>>
>>> Presumably, you have an application running on Tomcat with a JDBC 
>>> connection configured. Are you using Tomcat's built-in pooling, or 
>>> is your application managing its own pooling/connections?
>>> - ANSWER we are using dbcp2
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have any background tasks (in the JVM) that will run even 
>>> when there is no user activity? Cache-management? Lazy-writes?
>>> - ANSWER I don't think so.
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you using Tomcat's clustering? Are you using a database-backed 
>>> session management or any kind? -
>>> - ANSWER YES clustered B node down, A node up this Tomcat node is 
>>> not live or receiving any traffic currently in test.
>>>
>>>
>>> Are the connections definitely being made from the application 
>>> itself and/or Tomcat? Or do you just see those connections coming 
>>> from the IP where the application is running? - ANSWER im assuming 
>>> according to server.xml they are utlising these declared connections via 
>>> Tomcat.
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you have any background tasks (outside the JVM) that will run 
>>> even when there are no user actions? For example, some monitoring 
>>> system that pings the server to say "can you reach the database?" - 
>>> ANSWER NO
>>>
>>>
>>> O
>>>
>> Could your pool be closing the connections after a set time?  Look at 

RE: Tomcat jdbc connections

2022-01-25 Thread Alan F
Hi Chris,

Thankyou so much for your time and detail here. I had been working on this 
yesterday and posted my findings below. In the end It turned out to be my lack 
of understanding on Tomcat, but hey we are always learning! 


I would just like to update on my discovery of the issue I had with Tomcat 
resetting connections to DB. Main issue being lack of familiarity of parameters 
and how connection pooling worked. 

One thing I was unable to see without using a DBA admin was the connections 
resetting, no level of logging in Tomcat seemed to reveal this, and in the end 
I used a simple netstat query to check connections. 

watch -n1 "netstat -ant | grep ':1521.*ESTABLISHED' | nl | tail -n20  (last 
number depends on how many connections to monitor.)

Obvs local ports will change outgoing therefore highlighting a new connection 
when these change. 

Once I had this I was able to tinker with current settings until I discovered 
the issue. Which in reality wasn't an issue per se its just that I discovered a 
non live Tomcat was behaving differently with pooled connections over a live 
host! 

Just to Recap

Symptom:
Tomcat closing DBCP pooled connections  to Database every 60 seconds 

Cause:
Tomcat was idle, therefore the configuration param was causing idle connections 
to be reset the period specified below (60 secs)

timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis=6 

Resolution:
The behaviour above is by design, a busy server will be less likely to trigger 
this due to connections being used! 



-Original Message-
From: Christopher Schultz  
Sent: 24 January 2022 22:42
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tomcat jdbc connections

Alan,

On 1/23/22 09:17, Alan F wrote:
> Can I just follow up here what would be the next steps how would I go 
> about capturing the root cause of these very short connection times to 
> Oracle from Tomcat.

Honestly, I would want to know what query or queries are being run by these 
short-lived connections. Something tells me that if you are able to audit those 
queries, you'll immediately know what's going on.

SELECT * FROM query_details WHERE connection_id='deadbeef'

user   | start_time | end_time | query
zabbix | 12:00:00   | 12:00:00 | SELECT COUNT(*) FROM some_queue
zabbix | 12:01:00   | 12:01:00 | SELECT COUNT(*) FROM some_queue
zabbix | 12:02:00   | 12:02:00 | SELECT COUNT(*) FROM some_queue
zabbix | 12:03:00   | 12:03:00 | SELECT COUNT(*) FROM some_queue
zabbix | 12:04:00   | 12:04:00 | SELECT COUNT(*) FROM some_queue
zabbix | 12:05:00   | 12:05:00 | SELECT COUNT(*) FROM some_queue

/me says "Oh, right. We have monitoring."

> Would it be along the lines of Wireshark or TCP dump to see what's 
> occurring as I gather this won't be captured in tomcat logging via 
> Catalina.out? Or can it be.
I would only resort to reading TCP dumps if all else fails. Why?

1. TCP dumps are large and "expensive"
2. You are encrypting connections to your database... right?!

Knowing the nature of the queries will help. If you see no queries being 
executed, then no TCP dump will help you because you won't be able to prove 
what component is making those connection anyway (unless dbcp2 pushes some 
environmental information over to Oracle whenever it makes a connection like 
"I'm connecting to Oracle on behalf of application X on Tomcat, but I'm not 
going to execute any queries mmm'kay"). I don't think dbcp does that kind of 
thing, so you'd have to crank-up the logging level on that application and/or 
Tomcat instance to see what's happening with the connection pool.

Hope that helps,
-chris

> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Steitz 
> Sent: 21 January 2022 17:50
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Tomcat jdbc connections
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/21/22 9:28 AM, Alan F wrote:
>> Ok thanks Phil ok I checked other connections in the same host and see 
>> minIdle="2" and initialSize="7"
>>
>> Ive run a diff on this server.xml between our active prod hosts which shows 
>> connections on Toad up for at least a day as to this idle server 
>> reconnecting after minutes!  And diff is identical apart from Cluster ips.
> Most likely culprit is network or other issue causing validations to fail.  
> With testWhileIdle on, idle connections in the pool will be tested when 
> visited and closed if validation fails.
> 
> Phil
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Phil Steitz 
>> Sent: 21 January 2022 16:10
>> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Tomcat jdbc connections
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/21/22 8:19 AM, Alan F wrote:
>>> Thanks John,
>>>
>>> Here is an example of a connection below I see 
>>> timeBetweenEvictionRunsMillis but

Tomcat 9 Session replication

2022-01-28 Thread Alan F
We are currently getting traffic from all cluster members in other environments 
using .staticmember opposed to multicast can I confirm why this is see below.

What do we need to set here for a clustered pair to make them unique and talk 
to eachother only without seeing traffic from other members in Catalina.out

This is how they are currently configured as you can see only difference 
between nodes is the receiver and member ips are reversed. Im concerned 
uniqueID is the same, do we also need to specify domain? 

WE have hostname A and B if you could check below:

HOSTNAME A config




  












  






RE: Tomcat 9 Session replication

2022-01-30 Thread Alan F
OK with your advice I tried what I thought would work from example and doesn't 
at all. The old example below works but this doesn’t even detect members. 

Below is example to which Im using on both nodes which are remote to eachother. 
 


  

  






   

   

   

   
   
   
   
   
   

  

  
  
  
  
  
 


-Original Message-
From: Mark Thomas  
Sent: 28 January 2022 18:15
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tomcat 9 Session replication

On 28/01/2022 17:05, Alan F wrote:
> We are currently getting traffic from all cluster members in other 
> environments using .staticmember opposed to multicast can I confirm why this 
> is see below.
> 
> What do we need to set here for a clustered pair to make them unique 
> and talk to eachother only without seeing traffic from other members 
> in Catalina.out
> 
> This is how they are currently configured as you can see only difference 
> between nodes is the receiver and member ips are reversed. Im concerned 
> uniqueID is the same, do we also need to specify domain?

uniqueID should be unique at least within the subnet, ideally globally.

Yes, you should use a separate domain for each cluster.

Looking at your config:

You are missing the local member definition 
https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-10.0-doc/config/cluster-interceptor.html#Static_Membership

The deployer should be defined under the cluster, not under an interceptor.

Mark

> 
> WE have hostname A and B if you could check below:
> 
> HOSTNAME A config
> 
> 
> 
>  channelSendOptions="8">
> expireSessionsOnShutdown="false"
> notifyListenersOnReplication="true"/>
> 
> 
> 
>   className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.ReplicationTransmitter">
>   className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.PooledParallelSender" />
>  
>address="hostnameA"
>  autoBind="0"
>  className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.NioReceiver"
>  maxThreads="6"
>  port="4100"
>  selectorTimeout="5000"
>  />
>  
>   className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.TcpPingInterceptor" 
> staticOnly="true"/>
>   className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.TcpFailureDetector" 
> />
>   className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.StaticMembershipInterceptor">
>
> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.StaticMember"
> port="4100"
>  host="HostnameB"
>  uniqueId="{0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1}"
>  />
>  tempDir="/opt/tomcat/war-temp/"
>   deployDir="/opt/tomcat/war-deploy/"
>  watchDir="/opt/tomcat/war-listen/"
>  watchEnabled="true"/>
> 
>  
>   className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.MessageDispatchInterceptor"
>  />
>  
>   
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RE: Tomcat 9 Session replication

2022-01-31 Thread Alan F
Many thanks Chris,

Don't laugh I was looking at those values after Keiichi kindly mentioned this 
too (thankyou!)  and was thinking hmm where is 15 no mention! Ok makes sense 
now. 

Im trying to find out why we chose static, I think it was a guess at trying to 
stop the multicast interference from other hosts. I think we just had it all 
set wrong to start with. 

Looking at many online examples like here 
https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-9.0-doc/cluster-howto.html is what i looked 
would this suffice? 

If you could recommend the params I need just for two hosts to talk without 
interference ie specifying group or unique id etc. 

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Schultz  
Sent: 31 January 2022 14:46
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tomcat 9 Session replication

All,

On 1/31/22 08:04, Keiichi Fujino wrote:
> If you use StaticMembershipService, you must set 
> Cluster#channelStartOptions to 15 (default).

To spell that out (since the docs aren't very explicit), the value of "15" is 
the combination of the following flags:

SND_RX_SEQ (1) - Starts the data receiver.
SND_TX_SEQ (2) - Starts the data transmitter ("sender").
MBR_RX_SEQ (4) - Starts the membership receiver ("listener").
MBR_TX_SEQ (8) - Starts the membership transmitter ("broadcaster").
 |= 15 (0xf)

I'm curious why, if one is using static membership, are the membership 
transmitter and receiver flags required? It seems to be that the membership 
should remain static and therefore no membership comms shuould be required. Are 
those important to ensure that the cluster members (through static) are 
actually present during operation?

-chris

> 2022年1月31日(月) 16:47 Alan F :
> 
>> OK with your advice I tried what I thought would work from example 
>> and doesn't at all. The old example below works but this doesn’t even 
>> detect members.
>>
>> Below is example to which Im using on both nodes which are remote to 
>> eachother.
>>
>>
>> > channelSendOptions="8" channelStartOptions = "3">
>>> expireSessionsOnShutdown="false"
>> notifyListenersOnReplication="true"/>
>>
>>> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.GroupChannel">
>>
>>  > className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.StaticMembershipService">
>>  > className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.StaticMember"
>>port="4110"
>>host="local-tomcat"
>>domain="tomcat-pc2"
>>
>> uniqueId="{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,0}" />
>>  > className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.StaticMember"
>>port="4110"
>>host="remote-tomcat"
>>domain="tomcat-pc2"
>>
>> uniqueId="{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15}" />
>>  
>>
>> > className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.NioReceiver"
>>   address="local-tomcat"
>>   port="4110"
>>   autoBind="9"
>>   selectorTimeout="2000"
>>   maxThreads="6"/>
>>
>> > className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.ReplicationTransmitter">
>>  > className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.PooledParallelSender"/>
>> 
>>
>> > className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.TcpPingInterceptor"
>> staticOnly="true"/>
>> > className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.TcpFailureDetector"
>> />
>> > className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.MessageDispatchInterceptor"/>
>> > className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.ThroughputInterceptor"/>
>> > className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.StaticMembershipInterceptor">
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>> filter=""/>
>>> className="org.apache.catalina.ha.session.JvmRouteBinderValve"/>
>>
>>> className="org.apache.catalina.ha.deploy.FarmWarDeployer"
>>   

RE: Tomcat 9 Session replication

2022-02-01 Thread Alan F
Many thanks Mark! 

-Original Message-
From: Mark Thomas  
Sent: 01 February 2022 09:25
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: Tomcat 9 Session replication

On 31/01/2022 14:54, Alan F wrote:
> Many thanks Chris,
> 
> Don't laugh I was looking at those values after Keiichi kindly mentioned this 
> too (thankyou!)  and was thinking hmm where is 15 no mention! Ok makes sense 
> now.
> 
> Im trying to find out why we chose static, I think it was a guess at trying 
> to stop the multicast interference from other hosts. I think we just had it 
> all set wrong to start with.
> 
> Looking at many online examples like here 
> https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-9.0-doc/cluster-howto.html is what i looked 
> would this suffice?
> 
> If you could recommend the params I need just for two hosts to talk without 
> interference ie specifying group or unique id etc.

This is a working static cluster example from my 4-node test cluster.

https://people.apache.org/~markt/dev/server-static-cluster-example.xml

Things you'll need to change:
- the jvmRoute on the Engine element
   - must be unique for each node
   - must match the reverse proxy config for sticky sessions to work
- you'll only need two members
- LocalMember needs to be correct on each node
- The address attribute of the receiver needs to be correct on each node

Mark

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Schultz 
> Sent: 31 January 2022 14:46
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Tomcat 9 Session replication
> 
> All,
> 
> On 1/31/22 08:04, Keiichi Fujino wrote:
>> If you use StaticMembershipService, you must set 
>> Cluster#channelStartOptions to 15 (default).
> 
> To spell that out (since the docs aren't very explicit), the value of "15" is 
> the combination of the following flags:
> 
> SND_RX_SEQ (1) - Starts the data receiver.
> SND_TX_SEQ (2) - Starts the data transmitter ("sender").
> MBR_RX_SEQ (4) - Starts the membership receiver ("listener").
> MBR_TX_SEQ (8) - Starts the membership transmitter ("broadcaster").
>   |= 15 (0xf)
> 
> I'm curious why, if one is using static membership, are the membership 
> transmitter and receiver flags required? It seems to be that the membership 
> should remain static and therefore no membership comms shuould be required. 
> Are those important to ensure that the cluster members (through static) are 
> actually present during operation?
> 
> -chris
> 
>> 2022年1月31日(月) 16:47 Alan F :
>>
>>> OK with your advice I tried what I thought would work from example 
>>> and doesn't at all. The old example below works but this doesn’t 
>>> even detect members.
>>>
>>> Below is example to which Im using on both nodes which are remote to 
>>> eachother.
>>>
>>>
>>> >>  channelSendOptions="8" channelStartOptions = "3">
>>> >>  expireSessionsOnShutdown="false"
>>>  notifyListenersOnReplication="true"/>
>>>
>>> >> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.GroupChannel">
>>>
>>>   >> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.StaticMembershipService">
>>>   >> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.StaticMember"
>>> port="4110"
>>> host="local-tomcat"
>>> domain="tomcat-pc2"
>>>
>>> uniqueId="{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,0}" />
>>>   >> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.StaticMember"
>>> port="4110"
>>> host="remote-tomcat"
>>> domain="tomcat-pc2"
>>>
>>> uniqueId="{0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15}" />
>>>   
>>>
>>>  >> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.nio.NioReceiver"
>>>address="local-tomcat"
>>>port="4110"
>>>autoBind="9"
>>>selectorTimeout="2000"
>>>maxThreads="6"/>
>>>
>>>  >> className="org.apache.catalina.tribes.transport.ReplicationTransmitter

help with high cpu usage

2022-02-03 Thread Alan F
Had some issues today with one prod host. One is fine the other has stuck 
around 80%Cpu. 
Ive taken a thread dump from both hosts and would appreciate someone give a 
once over what it may be before I kill and restart. They are clustered nodes so 
running identical apps and loadbalanced by a hardware balancer.

Node1 is ok (relatively!)
https://fastthread.io/my-thread-report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS1hODllYzBkZS01OGJjLTQ2ZDQtYWRhNS1kYjkxZjM2NjI1ZTAudHh0&;


Node 2 still has high CPU usage
https://fastthread.io/my-thread-report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS0yN2I0YWY4Mi05OWFhLTQ3YjYtOGQ2My0wMDMwZjlkNDQzNjMudHh0&;



RE: help with high cpu usage

2022-02-03 Thread Alan F
HI John,

Thankyou kindly for taking the time here. 

First of all looking back at the historical chart for the day I observed node 2 
rise in cpu activity about 11am this morning and stayed high node1 has dropped 
back to idle.


##Do you know for sure that its the Tomcat process that is using the CPU?##
A simple top -i showing the only process still running here at 189% is a java 
process under tomcat account.

24667 tomcat20   0  365.6g  17.2g  23080 S 189.7 54.9   2663:45 java

I have taken 2 dumps here 10 secs apart if this helps at all? 

https://fastthread.io/my-thread-report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS0zNzY2ZmZmNy0wZDgyLTRhZTItYmE3Mi0zMWQyYTYwN2M1ZjgudHh0&;


https://fastthread.io/my-thread-report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS0yMzFjOGYzZS01MjYzLTRiYWYtOTJjMS1jN2RiMWRlZmEwN2QudHh0&;


We do have Prometheus hooked in via jmx with Grafana but im struggling to see 
anything glaring apart from GC I see old Gen taking about 5hrs before it drops 
back one node2 as opposed to 3 on node 1. 



-Original Message-
From: john.e.gr...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID  
Sent: 03 February 2022 19:33
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: RE: help with high cpu usage

Alan,


> -Original Message-----
> From: Alan F 
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2022 12:19 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List 
> Subject: help with high cpu usage
> 
> Had some issues today with one prod host. One is fine the other has 
> stuck around 80%Cpu.
> Ive taken a thread dump from both hosts and would appreciate someone 
> give a once over what it may be before I kill and restart. They are 
> clustered nodes so running identical apps and loadbalanced by a hardware 
> balancer.
> 
> Node1 is ok (relatively!)
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fastthread.io/my-thread-
> report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS1hODllYzBkZS01OGJjLTQ
> 2ZDQtYWRhNS1kYjkxZjM2NjI1ZTAudHh0&__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!91fvMc
> RzcMYr95RrClT-eCrcDNp3fKUDpupDSNtn-mDKbTl_dmUSa0LaAolXlhipl-
> Fk2pQ$
> 
> 
> Node 2 still has high CPU usage
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fastthread.io/my-thread-
> report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS0yN2I0YWY4Mi05OWFhL
> TQ3YjYtOGQ2My0wMDMwZjlkNDQzNjMudHh0&__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!9
> 1fvMcRzcMYr95RrClT-eCrcDNp3fKUDpupDSNtn-
> mDKbTl_dmUSa0LaAolXlhipkmLFr3E$

Taking thread dumps was a good idea but I see very little activity on node 2.  
It looks like two threads are in Hibernate's 
EntityEntryContext.downgradeLocks() method, one is taking the thread dump 
itself, and another is reading a request from a client, I think.  I would not 
expect this to add up to 80% CPU usage unless one of those threads is stuck in 
a loop.  Comparing multiple thread dumps taken 5-10 seconds apart would help 
answer this question.  How much GC is there?  Could these Hibernate queries be 
pulling a huge amount of data from the DB, thus causing a lot of GC activity?

Node 1 looks idle except for the thread taking the thread dump.

Do you know for sure that it's the Tomcat process that is using the CPU?



RE: help with high cpu usage

2022-02-03 Thread Alan F
My bad here are the correct dumps 10 secs apart

https://fastthread.io/my-thread-report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS0zNzY2ZmZmNy0wZDgyLTRhZTItYmE3Mi0zMWQyYTYwN2M1ZjgudHh0&;


https://fastthread.io/my-thread-report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS00NTE3MWUxNy1jYWRiLTRkY2UtODBlNS1lMDk0YTJjNTg1OGEudHh0&;




-Original Message-
From: john.e.gr...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID  
Sent: 03 February 2022 19:33
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: RE: help with high cpu usage

Alan,


> -Original Message-----
> From: Alan F 
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2022 12:19 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List 
> Subject: help with high cpu usage
> 
> Had some issues today with one prod host. One is fine the other has 
> stuck around 80%Cpu.
> Ive taken a thread dump from both hosts and would appreciate someone 
> give a once over what it may be before I kill and restart. They are 
> clustered nodes so running identical apps and loadbalanced by a hardware 
> balancer.
> 
> Node1 is ok (relatively!)
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fastthread.io/my-thread-
> report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS1hODllYzBkZS01OGJjLTQ
> 2ZDQtYWRhNS1kYjkxZjM2NjI1ZTAudHh0&__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!91fvMc
> RzcMYr95RrClT-eCrcDNp3fKUDpupDSNtn-mDKbTl_dmUSa0LaAolXlhipl-
> Fk2pQ$
> 
> 
> Node 2 still has high CPU usage
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fastthread.io/my-thread-
> report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS0yN2I0YWY4Mi05OWFhL
> TQ3YjYtOGQ2My0wMDMwZjlkNDQzNjMudHh0&__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!9
> 1fvMcRzcMYr95RrClT-eCrcDNp3fKUDpupDSNtn-
> mDKbTl_dmUSa0LaAolXlhipkmLFr3E$

Taking thread dumps was a good idea but I see very little activity on node 2.  
It looks like two threads are in Hibernate's 
EntityEntryContext.downgradeLocks() method, one is taking the thread dump 
itself, and another is reading a request from a client, I think.  I would not 
expect this to add up to 80% CPU usage unless one of those threads is stuck in 
a loop.  Comparing multiple thread dumps taken 5-10 seconds apart would help 
answer this question.  How much GC is there?  Could these Hibernate queries be 
pulling a huge amount of data from the DB, thus causing a lot of GC activity?

Node 1 looks idle except for the thread taking the thread dump.

Do you know for sure that it's the Tomcat process that is using the CPU?



Re: help with high cpu usage

2022-02-03 Thread Alan F
John thanks so much !! Will pass this on tomorrow. Cheers.

From: john.e.gr...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID 
Sent: 03 February 2022 22:45
To: users@tomcat.apache.org 
Subject: RE: help with high cpu usage

Alan,


> -Original Message-
> From: Alan F 
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2022 2:51 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List 
> Subject: RE: help with high cpu usage
>
> My bad here are the correct dumps 10 secs apart
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fastthread.io/my-thread-
> report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS0zNzY2ZmZmNy0wZDgyL
> TRhZTItYmE3Mi0zMWQyYTYwN2M1ZjgudHh0&__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!-
> fDbBdZmwXsUn9QT9ftL8f4PTLoASDZOXCeB4UEo7qKgcIHhANQVT6VMoGvG
> st67ghaaLsg$
>
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fastthread.io/my-thread-
> report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS00NTE3MWUxNy1jYWRi
> LTRkY2UtODBlNS1lMDk0YTJjNTg1OGEudHh0&__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!-
> fDbBdZmwXsUn9QT9ftL8f4PTLoASDZOXCeB4UEo7qKgcIHhANQVT6VMoGvG
> st67j-3O5xU$
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: john.e.gr...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID
> 
> Sent: 03 February 2022 19:33
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: RE: help with high cpu usage
>
> Alan,
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alan F 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2022 12:19 PM
> > To: Tomcat Users List 
> > Subject: help with high cpu usage
> >
> > Had some issues today with one prod host. One is fine the other has
> > stuck around 80%Cpu.
> > Ive taken a thread dump from both hosts and would appreciate someone
> > give a once over what it may be before I kill and restart. They are
> > clustered nodes so running identical apps and loadbalanced by a hardware
> balancer.
> >
> > Node1 is ok (relatively!)
> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fastthread.io/my-thread-
> >
> report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS1hODllYzBkZS01OGJjLTQ
> >
> 2ZDQtYWRhNS1kYjkxZjM2NjI1ZTAudHh0&__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!91fvMc
> > RzcMYr95RrClT-eCrcDNp3fKUDpupDSNtn-mDKbTl_dmUSa0LaAolXlhipl-
> > Fk2pQ$
> >
> >
> > Node 2 still has high CPU usage
> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fastthread.io/my-thread-
> >
> report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS0yN2I0YWY4Mi05OWFhL
> >
> TQ3YjYtOGQ2My0wMDMwZjlkNDQzNjMudHh0&__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!9
> > 1fvMcRzcMYr95RrClT-eCrcDNp3fKUDpupDSNtn-
> > mDKbTl_dmUSa0LaAolXlhipkmLFr3E$
>
> Taking thread dumps was a good idea but I see very little activity on node 2.
> It looks like two threads are in Hibernate's
> EntityEntryContext.downgradeLocks() method, one is taking the thread
> dump itself, and another is reading a request from a client, I think.  I would
> not expect this to add up to 80% CPU usage unless one of those threads is
> stuck in a loop.  Comparing multiple thread dumps taken 5-10 seconds apart
> would help answer this question.  How much GC is there?  Could these
> Hibernate queries be pulling a huge amount of data from the DB, thus
> causing a lot of GC activity?
>
> Node 1 looks idle except for the thread taking the thread dump.
>
> Do you know for sure that it's the Tomcat process that is using the CPU?

Of the 3 dumps from the same node, the first two are 3 hours apart, yet the two 
query threads seem to still be doing the same thing.  (I verified that the 
timestamps in the dumps are different but maybe I made a mistake.)  They are 
both making the Hibernate downgradeLocks call.  This is occurring in the 
context of committing a transaction.  That definitely makes it look like those 
threads are somehow either stuck or are looping.

The 3rd dump has those same two threads actually making queries to Oracle.  So 
within about 10 seconds, we have two threads committing transactions followed 
by making additional queries.

Definitely show these to the developers if you haven't already.

I didn't follow what you said about the GC.


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RE: help with high cpu usage

2022-02-04 Thread Alan F
Hello Thomas,

Thanks for your input here, what's your weapon of choice to identify this 
thread bar thread dump? I just downloaded jvmtop from github but that didn't 
seem to give me any clue at all about independent threads.

Cheers

Alan

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH) 
 
Sent: 04 February 2022 09:18
To: Tomcat Users List 
Subject: AW: help with high cpu usage

Hello,

when I encounter high CPU usage, it's best to identify the thread Id which is 
eating CPU.
Making a thread dump, you can then search for  the thread id within this dump.
This works good for long lasting threads. If the CPU eating thread changes 
quickly, it's harder to figure out.

Greetings,
Thomas
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Betreff: Re: help with high cpu usage

John thanks so much !! Will pass this on tomorrow. Cheers.

From: john.e.gr...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID 
Sent: 03 February 2022 22:45
To: users@tomcat.apache.org 
Subject: RE: help with high cpu usage

Alan,


> -Original Message-
> From: Alan F 
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2022 2:51 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List 
> Subject: RE: help with high cpu usage
>
> My bad here are the correct dumps 10 secs apart
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fastthread.io/my-thread-
> report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS0zNzY2ZmZmNy0wZDgyL
> TRhZTItYmE3Mi0zMWQyYTYwN2M1ZjgudHh0&__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!-
> fDbBdZmwXsUn9QT9ftL8f4PTLoASDZOXCeB4UEo7qKgcIHhANQVT6VMoGvG
> st67ghaaLsg$
>
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fastthread.io/my-thread-
> report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS00NTE3MWUxNy1jYWRi
> LTRkY2UtODBlNS1lMDk0YTJjNTg1OGEudHh0&__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!-
> fDbBdZmwXsUn9QT9ftL8f4PTLoASDZOXCeB4UEo7qKgcIHhANQVT6VMoGvG
> st67j-3O5xU$
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: john.e.gr...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID
> 
> Sent: 03 February 2022 19:33
> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: RE: help with high cpu usage
>
> Alan,
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Alan F 
> > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2022 12:19 PM
> > To: Tomcat Users List 
> > Subject: help with high cpu usage
> >
> > Had some issues today with one prod host. One is fine the other has 
> > stuck around 80%Cpu.
> > Ive taken a thread dump from both hosts and would appreciate someone 
> > give a once over what it may be before I kill and restart. They are 
> > clustered nodes so running identical apps and loadbalanced by a 
> > hardware
> balancer.
> >
> > Node1 is ok (relatively!)
> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fastthread.io/my-thread-
> >
> report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS1hODllYzBkZS01OGJjLTQ
> >
> 2ZDQtYWRhNS1kYjkxZjM2NjI1ZTAudHh0&__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!91fvMc
> > RzcMYr95RrClT-eCrcDNp3fKUDpupDSNtn-mDKbTl_dmUSa0LaAolXlhipl-
> > Fk2pQ$
> >
> >
> > Node 2 still has high CPU usage
> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://fastthread.io/my-thread-
> >
> report.jsp?p=c2hhcmVkLzIwMjIvMDIvMy8tLWFwaS0yN2I0YWY4Mi05OWFhL
> >
> TQ3YjYtOGQ2My0wMDMwZjlkNDQzNjMudHh0&__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!9
> > 1fvMcRzcMYr95RrClT-eCrcDNp3fKUDpupDSNtn-
> > mDKbTl_dmUSa0LaAolXlhipkmLFr3E$
>
> Taking thread dumps was a good idea but I see very little activity on node 2.
> It looks like two threads are in Hibernate's
> EntityEntryContext.downgradeLocks() method, one is taking the thread 
> dump itself, and another is reading a request from a client, I think.  
> I would not expect this to add up to 80% CPU usage unless one of those 
> threads is stuck in a loop.  Comparing multiple thread dumps taken 
> 5-10 seconds apart would help answer this question.  How much GC is 
> there?  Could these Hibernate queries be pulling a huge amount of data 
> from the DB, thus causing a lot of GC activity?
>
> Node 1 looks idle except for the thread taking the thread dump.
>
> Do you know for sure that it's the Tomcat process that is using the CPU?

Of the 3 dumps from the same node, the first two are 3 hours apart, yet the two 
query threads seem to still be doing the same thing.  (I verified that the 
timestamps in the dumps are different but maybe I made a mistake.)  They are 
both making the Hibernate downgradeLocks call.  This is occurring in the 
context of committing a transaction.  That definitely makes it look like those 
threads are somehow either stuck or are looping.

The 3rd dump has those same two threads actually making queries to Oracle.  So 
within about 10 seconds, we have two threads committing transactions followed 
by making additional queries.

Definitely show these to the developers if you

403 whilst reading from ROOT

2022-03-04 Thread Alan F
Im trying to read robots.txt from '/' on a few tomcat servers to block web 
search engines. Obviously placed the txt file in ./webapps/ROOT/

Works fine on a few tomcat hosts that have identical server.xml / web.xml  so 
im puzzled as to why these two Tomcat servers are blocking requests, obviously 
something is different. Ive checked ./Catalina/localhost and see some 
restrictions here but only apply to /webapps/manager

Im not sure where else to look?



The error im seeing is:

HTTP Status 403 - Forbidden

Type Status Report
Description The server understood the request but refuses to authorize it.





Constant errors in Tomcat logs

2022-06-06 Thread Alan F
HI I have a Tomcat clustered pair running, I see this 3 times a minute in the 
logs. I don't see this IP in server.xml I do have a DEV Tomcat pair is this 
somehow interfering? 

06-Jun-2022 11:15:18.836 WARNING [Catalina-utility-2] 
org.apache.catalina.tribes.group.interceptors.TcpFailureDetector.performBasicCheck
 Member added, even though we weren't 
notified:[org.apache.catalina.tribes.membership.MemberImpl[tcp://{192, 168, 
217, 57}:4102,{192, 168, 217, 57},4102, alive=3547745427, securePort=-1, UDP 
Port=-1, id={-119 -107 23 88 119 -39 74 -49 -118 57 -61 -49 -28 -91 11 43 }, 
payload={}, command={}, domain={}]]


tomcat logging

2022-06-09 Thread Alan F
Tomcat logging

I would like to add a delimiter or characters " "  around {user-agent} for 
logging,  I wanted it in double quotes for example "Mozilla 5.0.."  but can't 
seem to make it work. Or even adding a # symbol before would help any ideas?

Thanks

 

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Tomcat Deployment scripts

2023-06-28 Thread Alan F
Anyone have an example deployment script or method used to deploy a simple war 
and context root, also with rollback preferably.

Thanks


RE: Tomcat Deployment scripts

2023-06-30 Thread Alan F
This is great thankyou Thomas. Just wondering how secure this is, prefer to be 
able to deploy with a non 'admin' account does this support a deploy only 
profile there?



-Original Message-
From: Thomas Hoffmann (Speed4Trade GmbH) 
 
Sent: 29 June 2023 09:08
To: Tomcat Users List 
Subject: AW: Tomcat Deployment scripts

Hello Alan,

> Von: Alan F  
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Juni 2023 18:24
> An: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Betreff: Tomcat Deployment scripts
>
> Anyone have an example deployment script or method used to deploy a simple 
> war and context root, also with rollback preferably. 
>
> Thanks

you could use tomcat-manager.
A war file can be deployed using curl for example:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4432684/tomcat-manager-remote-deploy-script

Greetings, Thomas

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Re: Tomcat on a server

2006-07-17 Thread Alan Meyer

> is it possible to have one tomcat running on a server and allow
> multiple clients to execute their programs on the tomcat
> running on the server without affecting other clients
> execution.How can we configure tomcat for this purpose?

If I understand everything correctly, when Tomcat receives a
request it creates a new thread and runs the servlet in that
thread that matches the servlet or JSP requested.

Multiple requests can be processed concurrently, whether they are
requests for the same servlet or for different servlets.

Each thread will normally get its own stack for automatically
allocated variables and objects.  Depending upon how your program
is written however, it is possible for the threads to interfere
with each other if they use any static variables - so you must
use synchronization if it is required.

    Alan

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Re: multiple t hreads

2006-07-17 Thread Alan Meyer

> how to start multiple threads of a single instance of a tomcat
> where each thread runs a different application.is it possible
> with tomcat if so how

This can be done in the normal way.  Your servlet can start
separate threads, each of which runs somewhat independently.

However, there is a problem with this if you are intending to run
a thread in the background while returning information to the
client in the primary thread.

When I tried to do that on older versions of Tomcat (4.x), all
output to the user was suspended until _all_ of the threads
completed.  So you can't use this technique to run a batch job on
behalf of the user.  In fact, running a long batch job will time
out the webserver and abort the job.

What I did to overcome that was to spawn a new Java virtual
machine that ran apart from Tomcat.  To do this, I used an open
source routine by Marty Hall.  You can exec "java classname" or
exec a shell script or batch file that starts the JVM.

See: http://www.apl.jhu.edu/~hall/java/Exec.html

Alan


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Re: multiple t hreads

2006-07-17 Thread Alan Meyer

Chris,

Thank you for the excellent advice and suggestions.

>> When I tried to [spawn a new thread on behalf of the remote
>> user] on older versions of Tomcat (4.x), all output to the
>> user was suspended until _all_ of the threads completed.

> This was probably due to mismanagement of the thread; a new
> thread will run independently of your request handler thread,
> unless you call "join" on that thread, which will block the
> current thread until the "joined" thread completes.

I take it you've actually tried this and it worked for you.
Which version of Tomcat were you using?

I'm positive that I didn't call join to wait for completion of
the threads that I started.  Is it possible that earlier versions
of Tomcat did that beneath the covers, or perhaps that this was
configurable and our systems administrators (I wasn't
administering Tomcat myself) forced this to happen?

I agree that my technique was worse than spawning a thread.  I
didn't want the overhead of running two JVMs.  But, try as I
might (and I tried mightily hard), I wasn't able to make it work
on the installation of Tomcat that I was using.

I only allowed one batch job to run at a time, for just the
reasons you mentioned.  I wasn't worried about a malicious denial
of service attack since our server was running on an intranet for
vetted users, and I wasn't concerned about starting arbitrary
jobs since the users could only pick from my menu of jobs to run.
But I was worried about a user starting a long running job, not
seeing results right away, and starting it again and again.

> You are better off creating a thread pool and re-using threads
> to complete long-running operations.

Is this just to limit the number of threads that can run?

I wouldn't be much worried about the overhead of starting a new
thread since I already know I'm running a batch job which is
going to take a long time.  Starting a new thread is in the
noise, performance wise.

> You can have your long-running thread write some status to
> somewhere convenient (such as the user's session) so that
> subsequent requests can display some kind of status information
> each time. There's no need to worry about request timeouts,
> etc.

That's a very neat idea!  I never thought of anything like that.

> If possible, a better solution would be to actually run the
> batch job /as a batch job/ -- i.e. store the job in a
> database/file/whatever, and have another process come along and
> process that request as necessary.

Another excellent idea.  I thought of it and have used it on
other projects but, alas, the sys admins hated the idea of
running another daemon and I didn't want to fight with them.

> This is all academic, since I think the original question was
> something along the lines of "Does Tomcat actually work like an
> app server should?  with threads and everything? Does it?!".

Well, the original poster may not have learned anything from
this, but I certainly did.

Thanks again.

 Alan


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Struggling with basic database connection

2006-09-23 Thread Alan Chandler
I am struggling to figure out why my Tomcat installation is failing to allow 
me to connect my java web application to a database.  I am looking for ideas 
as to how to find out what is wrong.  I have (what I think) is the same setup 
on another machine and it works fine.  The only difference between these is 
that the working one in tomcat 5.0 and this machine is tomcat 5.5 (although I 
am just about and try with a 5.0 setup).

I am trying with this simple piece of code - plucked from the tomcat docs.

Context initCtx;
try {
initCtx = new InitialContext();
Context envCtx = (Context) 
initCtx.lookup("java:comp/env");
DataSource ds = (DataSource) 
envCtx.lookup("jdbc/akcmoney");
Connection conn = ds.getConnection();   
} catch (Exception e1) {
e1.printStackTrace();
}

and with debug, I can see that initCtX, envCtx and ds all are assigned non 
null values, but the ds.getConnection() results in the following.

org.apache.tomcat.dbcp.dbcp.SQLNestedException: Cannot create JDBC
driver of class '' for connect URL 'null'

I have the postgresql jdbc driver jar in $CATALINA.BASE/common/lib

Server.xml contains

 
  

 
  factory
  org.apache.commons.dbcp.BasicDataSourceFactory
 
 
  driverClassName
  org.postgresql.Driver
 
 
  url
  jdbc:postgresql://127.0.0.1:5432/akcmoney
 
 
  username
  tomcat4
 
 
 password
  xxx
 
 
  maxActive
  20
 
 
  maxIdle
  10
 
 
  maxWait
  -1
 
 
  
  
 

my WEB-INF/web.xml contains this reference.


AKCMoney Database
jdbc/akcmoney
javax.sql.DataSource
Container
Shareable


Anyone any ideas where I am going wrong, or how to look at the contents of the 
nitCtX, envCtx and ds variables in the above code snippet to understand how 
far I have got


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Re: Struggling with basic database connection

2006-09-23 Thread Alan Chandler
On Saturday 23 September 2006 09:57, Andrew Stepanenko wrote:
> Hello,
>
> there is a difference between how resources are defined in 5.0 and
> 5.5. In 5.0 you could provide your resource definitions right in the
> server.xml, but in 5.5 you need to create a separate context.xml file
> ($CATALINA_HOME/conf/Catalina//context.xml) and put resource
> definitions there.
> See this link:
> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/jndi-resources-howto.html
>
> I also had this problem when migrating from 5.0 to 5.5. After I
> defined a separate context.xml it started to work again.

The docs seem very vague on this issue,  but it does imply that I could still 
use $CATALINA_HOME/conf/server.xml

One question that isn't answered in the docs is what the root element should 
be - the best seems to be the example for accessing a database, and even 
there it puts 

I tried with context.xml in the directory you mentioned and it said it 
couldn't find the webapp "context", so I renamed it to my application and 
tried again.  But it didn't work.

So still stumped

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Re: Struggling with basic database connection

2006-09-23 Thread Alan Chandler
On Saturday 23 September 2006 15:23, David Smith wrote:
> Correction: context.xml belongs in META-INF of the war archive.

OK, I am begining to comprehend - and knowledge about the context.xml in the 
META-INF file for a WAR archive is good.  I was looking for a way to wrap all 
the info about the application in one directory structure - for my version 
control.

Does this work with Tomcat 5.0 - thats my current production environment?

HOWEVER, in the short term I am not working with WAR files - instead I am 
trying to deploy the application inside Eclipse. I tried creating a directory 
etc under eclipse's (probably WTP plugin's) server configuration, but it 
doesn't publish that to the conf directory inside it's CATALINA_HOME.

So still not sure how to proceed.


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Re: Struggling with basic database connection

2006-09-24 Thread Alan Chandler
On Saturday 23 September 2006 15:23, David Smith wrote:
> Correction: context.xml belongs in META-INF of the war archive.
>

I have just conducted experiments with Tomcat 5.0

putting a context.xml file in META-INF doesn't appear to work

I have not been having success with putting in conf/server.xml - but I have 
had success with putting the context in conf/Catalina/localhost/akcmoney.xml


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Re: Struggling with basic database connection

2006-10-01 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 01 October 2006 17:27, John Najarian wrote:
> Alan,
>
>   Did you ever resolve this?  I don't have enough
> information here to help you.
...

Sort of ...

The WTP plugin for eclipse copies what is in META-INF/context.xml  and writes 
it into CATALINA_BASE/conf/server.xml.

So for tomcat5.0, I have relied on testing/debuging like that so far, and 
achieving the same manually when I come to deploy on the production server.

At some stage soon, I will be changing to tomcat 5.5 but I am not sure where 
to go to make things work then, as I am still not sure there is any 
definitive guide to where these things go and how tomcat deals with a 
META-INF/context.xml



>
> --- Alan Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Saturday 23 September 2006 15:23, David Smith
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Correction: context.xml belongs in META-INF of the
> >
> > war archive.
> >
> >
> > I have just conducted experiments with Tomcat 5.0
> >
> > putting a context.xml file in META-INF doesn't
> > appear to work
> >
> > I have not been having success with putting in
> > conf/server.xml - but I have
> > had success with putting the context in
> > conf/Catalina/localhost/akcmoney.xml
> >
> >
> > --
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Max Memory Reading

2006-10-13 Thread Alan Flisch

Hi,

I was having some problems with perm gen space on one of our tomcat
instances and decided to increase the perm gen size and review the
JAVA_OPTS settings in general when I noticed something curious.  No
settings are currently made so its just running with default values, but
the manager status page shows the following...

>Free memory: 158.53 MB Total memory: 373.75 MB Max memory: 913.37 MB

That max memory figure in particular looks like a pretty strange
default!  I thought  the default was 64m.  

The installation details are as follows...
Apache Tomcat/5.5.16 1.5.0_06-b05 Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.9 sparc
The system has 16G of RAM.

Has anybody any thoughts?

Regards,
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Re: Max Memory Reading

2006-10-13 Thread Alan Flisch

Already checked that, it's not in the environment and not set in either
startup.sh or catalina.sh.

On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 14:17 +0700, Lintang JP wrote:

> maybe the value for environment variables called JAVA_OPTS equals those
> values ?
> try to echo $JAVA_OPTS and see if theres any value.
> 
> 
> On 10/13/06, Alan Flisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was having some problems with perm gen space on one of our tomcat
> > instances and decided to increase the perm gen size and review the
> > JAVA_OPTS settings in general when I noticed something curious.  No
> > settings are currently made so its just running with default values, but
> > the manager status page shows the following...
> >
> > >Free memory: 158.53 MB Total memory: 373.75 MB Max memory: 913.37 MB
> >
> > That max memory figure in particular looks like a pretty strange
> > default!  I thought  the default was 64m.
> >
> > The installation details are as follows...
> > Apache Tomcat/5.5.16 1.5.0_06-b05 Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.9 sparc
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> > Has anybody any thoughts?
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Re: Max Memory Reading

2006-10-13 Thread Alan Flisch

Good idea, but nothing set there either.  The fact it's such an odd
number is another perplexing issue.

On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 09:36 +0200, Pascal Alberty wrote:

> /etc/init.d/tomcat5 ?
> Check for -Xms and -Xmm options
> 
> On 10/13/06, Alan Flisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Already checked that, it's not in the environment and not set in either
> > startup.sh or catalina.sh.
> >
> > On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 14:17 +0700, Lintang JP wrote:
> >
> > > maybe the value for environment variables called JAVA_OPTS equals those
> > > values ?
> > > try to echo $JAVA_OPTS and see if theres any value.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/13/06, Alan Flisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I was having some problems with perm gen space on one of our tomcat
> > > > instances and decided to increase the perm gen size and review the
> > > > JAVA_OPTS settings in general when I noticed something curious.  No
> > > > settings are currently made so its just running with default values, but
> > > > the manager status page shows the following...
> > > >
> > > > >Free memory: 158.53 MB Total memory: 373.75 MB Max memory: 913.37 MB
> > > >
> > > > That max memory figure in particular looks like a pretty strange
> > > > default!  I thought  the default was 64m.
> > > >
> > > > The installation details are as follows...
> > > > Apache Tomcat/5.5.16 1.5.0_06-b05 Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.9 sparc
> > > > The system has 16G of RAM.
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Re: Max Memory Reading

2006-10-13 Thread Alan Flisch

Thanks, I suspected that, but couldn't find a reference in any JVM docs.
Do you have a reference I could look at so I could better understand
what is going on?

In order for me to set an appropriate larger perm gen size, I suppose
I'd need to know what it currently is.  I seem to remember it is
independent of the max heap size.  Any thoughts on this?

Regards,
Alan


On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 12:28 +0200, Leon Rosenberg wrote:

> The default memory values depends on your machine (processor speed and
> count, total amount of memory) and are guessed by the vm (if not
> explicitely specified) upon application start.
> Times of 64Mb max memory are long over now.
> 
> regards
> Leon
> 
> On 10/13/06, Alan Flisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was having some problems with perm gen space on one of our tomcat
> > instances and decided to increase the perm gen size and review the
> > JAVA_OPTS settings in general when I noticed something curious.  No
> > settings are currently made so its just running with default values, but
> > the manager status page shows the following...
> >
> > >Free memory: 158.53 MB Total memory: 373.75 MB Max memory: 913.37 MB
> >
> > That max memory figure in particular looks like a pretty strange
> > default!  I thought  the default was 64m.
> >
> > The installation details are as follows...
> > Apache Tomcat/5.5.16 1.5.0_06-b05 Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.9 sparc
> > The system has 16G of RAM.
> >
> > Has anybody any thoughts?
> >
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> > Alan
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Re: Max Memory Reading

2006-10-13 Thread Alan Flisch

Thanks.  Found a reference too:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/vm/gc-ergonomics.html

Going to set the following...

-server
-Xmx2000m
-XX:MaxPermSize=256m



On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 12:38 +0200, Leon Rosenberg wrote:

> def perm size is 64Mb
> 
> On 10/13/06, Alan Flisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, I suspected that, but couldn't find a reference in any JVM docs.
> > Do you have a reference I could look at so I could better understand
> > what is going on?
> >
> > In order for me to set an appropriate larger perm gen size, I suppose
> > I'd need to know what it currently is.  I seem to remember it is
> > independent of the max heap size.  Any thoughts on this?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alan
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 12:28 +0200, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
> >
> > > The default memory values depends on your machine (processor speed and
> > > count, total amount of memory) and are guessed by the vm (if not
> > > explicitely specified) upon application start.
> > > Times of 64Mb max memory are long over now.
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Leon
> > >
> > > On 10/13/06, Alan Flisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I was having some problems with perm gen space on one of our tomcat
> > > > instances and decided to increase the perm gen size and review the
> > > > JAVA_OPTS settings in general when I noticed something curious.  No
> > > > settings are currently made so its just running with default values, but
> > > > the manager status page shows the following...
> > > >
> > > > >Free memory: 158.53 MB Total memory: 373.75 MB Max memory: 913.37 MB
> > > >
> > > > That max memory figure in particular looks like a pretty strange
> > > > default!  I thought  the default was 64m.
> > > >
> > > > The installation details are as follows...
> > > > Apache Tomcat/5.5.16 1.5.0_06-b05 Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.9 sparc
> > > > The system has 16G of RAM.
> > > >
> > > > Has anybody any thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Alan
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Re: Max Memory Reading

2006-10-13 Thread Alan Flisch

I thought you were safe up to 4000m (in practice a little lower) for the
32 bit VM.

Regards,
Alan

On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 13:04 +0200, Leon Rosenberg wrote:

> just as note Xmx2000m works on 64bit vm only
> and you can use g instead of 1000m -> -Xmx2g
> 
> regards
> Leon
> 
> P.S. You should set your ms=mx, saves time :-)
> 
> On 10/13/06, Alan Flisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks.  Found a reference too:
> > http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/vm/gc-ergonomics.html
> >
> > Going to set the following...
> >
> > -server
> > -Xmx2000m
> > -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 12:38 +0200, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
> >
> > > def perm size is 64Mb
> > >
> > > On 10/13/06, Alan Flisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, I suspected that, but couldn't find a reference in any JVM docs.
> > > > Do you have a reference I could look at so I could better understand
> > > > what is going on?
> > > >
> > > > In order for me to set an appropriate larger perm gen size, I suppose
> > > > I'd need to know what it currently is.  I seem to remember it is
> > > > independent of the max heap size.  Any thoughts on this?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Alan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 12:28 +0200, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The default memory values depends on your machine (processor speed and
> > > > > count, total amount of memory) and are guessed by the vm (if not
> > > > > explicitely specified) upon application start.
> > > > > Times of 64Mb max memory are long over now.
> > > > >
> > > > > regards
> > > > > Leon
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/13/06, Alan Flisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was having some problems with perm gen space on one of our tomcat
> > > > > > instances and decided to increase the perm gen size and review the
> > > > > > JAVA_OPTS settings in general when I noticed something curious.  No
> > > > > > settings are currently made so its just running with default 
> > > > > > values, but
> > > > > > the manager status page shows the following...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >Free memory: 158.53 MB Total memory: 373.75 MB Max memory: 913.37 
> > > > > > >MB
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That max memory figure in particular looks like a pretty strange
> > > > > > default!  I thought  the default was 64m.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The installation details are as follows...
> > > > > > Apache Tomcat/5.5.16 1.5.0_06-b05 Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.9 
> > > > > > sparc
> > > > > > The system has 16G of RAM.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Has anybody any thoughts?
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Alan
> > > > > >
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Re: Max Memory Reading

2006-10-13 Thread Alan Flisch

It could actually be a 64 bit JVM (I didn't install it) although I
suspect not, but as I have no need to push the memory up any further
just now, I'll leave addressing that till later.

I'll maybe just make it 1600m or something for now as that should be
more than adequate.  The server isn't hammered but hosts quite a few
apps and that is why the demands on the perm gen space are higher than
is typical.

Regards,
Alan


On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 15:03 +0200, Leon Rosenberg wrote:

> Hmm,
> I'm not familiar with limitations on solaris. On linux 32bit VM can
> allocate 1.6-1.8 GB depending on vendor (1.6 for sun-jdk).
> 
> On the other side, if you are on 64bit OS (and you probably are, or
> how could you adress 16GB otherwise), why not using 64bit jdk?
> 
> regards
> Leon
> 
> On 10/13/06, Alan Flisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I thought you were safe up to 4000m (in practice a little lower) for the
> > 32 bit VM.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Alan
> >
> > On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 13:04 +0200, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
> >
> > > just as note Xmx2000m works on 64bit vm only
> > > and you can use g instead of 1000m -> -Xmx2g
> > >
> > > regards
> > > Leon
> > >
> > > P.S. You should set your ms=mx, saves time :-)
> > >
> > > On 10/13/06, Alan Flisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.  Found a reference too:
> > > > http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/vm/gc-ergonomics.html
> > > >
> > > > Going to set the following...
> > > >
> > > > -server
> > > > -Xmx2000m
> > > > -XX:MaxPermSize=256m
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 12:38 +0200, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > def perm size is 64Mb
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/13/06, Alan Flisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, I suspected that, but couldn't find a reference in any JVM 
> > > > > > docs.
> > > > > > Do you have a reference I could look at so I could better understand
> > > > > > what is going on?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In order for me to set an appropriate larger perm gen size, I 
> > > > > > suppose
> > > > > > I'd need to know what it currently is.  I seem to remember it is
> > > > > > independent of the max heap size.  Any thoughts on this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Alan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 12:28 +0200, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The default memory values depends on your machine (processor 
> > > > > > > speed and
> > > > > > > count, total amount of memory) and are guessed by the vm (if not
> > > > > > > explicitely specified) upon application start.
> > > > > > > Times of 64Mb max memory are long over now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards
> > > > > > > Leon
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 10/13/06, Alan Flisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I was having some problems with perm gen space on one of our 
> > > > > > > > tomcat
> > > > > > > > instances and decided to increase the perm gen size and review 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > JAVA_OPTS settings in general when I noticed something curious. 
> > > > > > > >  No
> > > > > > > > settings are currently made so its just running with default 
> > > > > > > > values, but
> > > > > > > > the manager status page shows the following...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Free memory: 158.53 MB Total memory: 373.75 MB Max memory: 
> > > > > > > > >913.37 M

RE: Max Memory Reading

2006-10-13 Thread Alan Flisch

It seems to be contradicted by this document
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/vm/gc-ergonomics.html and by
my experience of seeing a near 1GB heap with no -Xmx option set
anywhere.

It's a little on the confusing side!


On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 09:31 -0500, Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

> > From: Leon Rosenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Subject: Re: Max Memory Reading
> > 
> > unfortunately google is not your friend in this case and the document
> > seems outdated :-)
> >
> > http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/gc5.0/ergo5.html
> 
> Why do you think it's outdated?  What's described is what the current
> 5.0 code does.
> 
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RE: Max Memory Reading

2006-10-13 Thread Alan Flisch

The document Leon thought was outdated was this one -
http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/gc5.0/gc_tuning_5.html#0.0.0.%20Total%
20Heap%7Coutline - which also relates to  5.0!  I'm guessing from the
evidence that this doc is simply wrong.  

Regards,
Alan

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> > From: Alan Flisch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Subject: RE: Max Memory Reading
> > 
> > It seems to be contradicted by this document
> > http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/vm/gc-ergonomics.html and by
> > my experience of seeing a near 1GB heap with no -Xmx option set
> > anywhere.
> 
> Maybe I'm confused by which doc Leon thought was outdated (the perils of
> doing top-posting).  The doc referenced above matches the 5.0 code.
> 
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Authentication when Tomcat is fronted by Apache

2005-10-31 Thread Alan Chandler
I have apache2 as my main web server.  I have configured it to pass all paths 
that begin with /famtree to them through to tomcat via the ajp connector 
(using jk_mod).

I am trying to get basic authentication working using the UserDatabase Realm.

I get the basic dialog box to appear so I can enter my username and password, 
but what ever I type it fails to authenticate when I hit theOK button..

Thinking about it, I have probably not configured jk_mod in my apache2 
configuration file to pass the authentication dialog data back to tomcat.

This is not mentioned in any documentation I have seen.  How do I do this?

[PS if I could use apache to authenticate before even getting as far as tomcat 
that would be better, but as far as I can see it only works if the url is 
translated into a an actual location and not passed on]
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Still failing authentication - need help on how to Debug

2005-11-01 Thread Alan Chandler
I am still struggling to get tomcat to authenticate access to my application.  

As a starting point I am trying to use BASIC authentication with the 
DataSource Realm (basically because I can check the query SQL)

Whatever I do the user is presented with the authentication dialog box, but 
this authentication ALWAYS fails.

Any way, as can be seen from the logs I am doing an authenticate test and 
failing.

But thats not suprising when you look at the SQL that is being requested.  The 
username is null

Why? 

I can't see how I have anything wrong in server.xml - otherwise the postgres 
query would not have happened.  I can't see what I could possibly have wrong 
in my web.xml as this does not even mention username!.

Nevertheless - here is my web.xml is below



How can I get further info that would be helpful in debugging this?



===famtree log (from tomcat4)
2005-11-01 19:53:00 famtree: init
2005-11-01 19:54:29 Authenticator[/famtree]: Security checking request 
GET /famtree/app
2005-11-01 19:54:29 Authenticator[/famtree]:   Checking constraint 
'SecurityConstraint[Famtree Application]' against GET /app --> true
2005-11-01 19:54:29 Authenticator[/famtree]:  Subject to constraint 
SecurityConstraint[Famtree Application]
2005-11-01 19:54:29 Authenticator[/famtree]:  Calling checkUserData()
2005-11-01 19:54:29 Authenticator[/famtree]:   User data constraint has no 
restrictions
2005-11-01 19:54:29 Authenticator[/famtree]:  Calling authenticate()
2005-11-01 19:54:30 Authenticator[/famtree]:  Failed authenticate() test
roo:/var/log/tomcat4# 

=postgres.log

2005-11-01 19:54:30 [3756] LOG:  duration: 0.283 ms  statement: set 
client_encoding = 'UNICODE'
2005-11-01 19:54:30 [3756] LOG:  duration: 5.291 ms  statement: SELECT 
password FROM users WHERE name = null

===web.xml

http://java.sun.com/dtd/web-app_2_3.dtd";>

Family Tree Manager

  
redirect
org.apache.tapestry.RedirectFilter
  

  
redirect
/
  

  
famtree
org.apache.tapestry.ApplicationServlet
0
  


famtree
/app


famtree
*.page


famtree
*.do



famtree
*.sdo


famtree
*.svc


famtree
/assets/*

  
15
  


index.html
index.htm
index.jsp
default.html
default.htm
default.jsp



Family Tree Database
jdbc/family_tree
javax.sql.DataSource
Container
Shareable



Famtree 
Application
/*


family



BASIC
Family Member


family



 

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Re: Still failing authentication - need help on how to Debug

2005-11-01 Thread Alan Chandler
On Tuesday 01 Nov 2005 20:26, Andoni wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
> Show us the relevant section of your server.xml.
>
> Are you using a view in your database?
>
> What the authenticator is doing is basically two select statements on your
> database to find the usernames and passwords. If the name of the username
> column is not correctly corresponding to the username column in the
> database then you may be in trouble!
>

You are not going to believe this, but I was fiddling about putting ethereal 
up to try and check what username was going between the machines and it 
suddenly just started working.

I have no idea what I have done that makes it work, or why it wasn't working 
before. (I have only just switched over the Datasource Realm because I 
couldn't get the UserDatabase Realm to work either.).



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How do you debug Authentication Problems

2006-01-13 Thread Alan Chandler
I have tomcat4 fronted by apache2 and linked via mod_jk.

I am running well with basic applications, but up until now I have been 
manually loading applications.

I tried to use the manager application, and it is asking me to authenticate 
myself.  I have added myself into the manager role in the tomcat-users, but I 
get into a loop of authentication failures.

As a TEMPORARY measure, I have added the authentication into the Apache 
configuration (inside a  directive and removed it from the web.xml 
of the manager application.

And that works.

 There is nothing in any of my standardly configured logs to indicate what is 
happening.   But, given this effect of getting it to work when I delegate 
security control to Apache,  I suspect that the front ending of tomcat with 
apache is playing some effect on the failures. It also explains why I could 
never get my application with user login to work and had to give up trying to 
build authentication into a web app. 

But what is the problem? and how do I debug this to get a clear picture of 
what is happening? 

Surely others have had the same issues  - front ending Tomcat with apache must 
be a relatively frequent configuration - and have overcome them.
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What is the correct way to install a new version of a war

2006-01-14 Thread Alan Chandler
I am trying to install a new version of my application war

I tried various ways, using the HTML manager, including removing the 
application and then installing by uploading a new war file, but all of them 
seemed to screw up one way or the other.

The option I mention above (complete re-install) seemed to have a problem with 
re-initiallising my connection to the database (which is using the built in 
Tomcat pooling).  

In the end I had to shutdown and restart the server.

Is there a recommended step by step approach to doing this safely?
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question regarding jdk log in Tomcat

2006-02-01 Thread Alan Honczar
Hi,

I have a question about java logging within a context.
I´d like to have a way to isolate the jdk1.4 log between Tomcat contexts.

In my own lines of code, I create a JDK1.4 logger with an associated name, 
Handler and Formatter. This way, I have one log file per context.
My problem is when I add Frameworks like Struts and Hibernate to my context. I 
would like them logging into my current context log file.

Since they use commons logging, I´ve had to call 
LogManager.getLogManager().readConfiguration(InputStream is); in order to make 
the logging engine load my configurations and let me log where I wish.
But that affects in a global way. If I have only one context running, 
everything is fine, but with many, the last context that called 
readConfiguration redefines all the precedents.
I looked to the sources of the jdk and found it relies on the System 
Classloader...

I am a little bit trapped here, as I do not know how to redirect the log of the 
instances of hibernate and struts to the log of my context of tomcat.

I appreciate very much any suggestions.

TIA,
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need suggestion about jdk 1.4 logging in Tomcat

2006-02-03 Thread Alan Honczar

Hi,

I need a suggestion about java logging within a context.
I´d like to have a way to isolate the jdk1.4 log between Tomcat contexts.

In my own lines of code, I create a JDK1.4 logger with an associated name, 
Handler and Formatter. This way, I have one log file per context.
My problem is when I add Frameworks like Struts and Hibernate to my context. I 
would like them logging into my current context log file.

Since they use commons logging, I´ve had to call 
LogManager.getLogManager().readConfiguration(InputStream is); in order to make 
the logging engine load my configurations and let me log where I wish.
But that affects in a global way. If I have only one context running, 
everything is fine, but with many, the last context that called 
readConfiguration redefines all the precedents.
I looked to the sources of the jdk and found it relies on the System 
Classloader...

I am a little bit trapped here, as I do not know how to redirect the log of the 
instances of hibernate and struts to the log of my context of tomcat.

I appreciate very much any suggestions.

TIA,
Alan Honczar




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RES: need suggestion about jdk 1.4 logging in Tomcat

2006-02-03 Thread Alan Honczar
Yes, I did not bother... sorry.

I was using 4.0 and 5.0, not 5.5.

I upgraded Tomcat to 5.5 and tested my application. 

Fisrt of all, I commented my call to LogManager.readConfiguration(InputStream), 
and put my logging.properties under WEB-INF/classes in order lo let Tomcat read 
the file.
Everything worked fine.

But I think it will only run under Tomcat. So, I will keep looking into 
x4juli.jar to find a general solution.

Thanks all!

Boris Unckel, I am testing x4juli.jar. I will send you the results.

Thanks again.


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Assunto: RE: need suggestion about jdk 1.4 logging in Tomcat

> From: Alan Honczar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: need suggestion about jdk 1.4 logging in Tomcat
> 
> I need a suggestion about java logging within a context.
> I´d like to have a way to isolate the jdk1.4 log between 
> Tomcat contexts.

You didn't bother to tell us what Tomcat version you're using.  If you're on 
the current one (5.5.x), have you read this?
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/logging.html

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RES: need suggestion about jdk 1.4 logging in Tomcat

2006-02-03 Thread Alan Honczar
tomcat-juli.jar works fine under Tomcat5.0 too.

I could not put x4juli.jar running... the WAR of the sample application did not 
open. The properties did not work at first, and after fixed, did not work at 
all. I will stop spending time on it, all right Boris?

Thank you all!

Do anyone know of any standard or possibility of standard for this behavior of 
logging in contexts?

Thanks again.

Alan Honczar

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Para: Tomcat Users List
Assunto: RES: need suggestion about jdk 1.4 logging in Tomcat

Yes, I did not bother... sorry.

I was using 4.0 and 5.0, not 5.5.

I upgraded Tomcat to 5.5 and tested my application. 

Fisrt of all, I commented my call to LogManager.readConfiguration(InputStream), 
and put my logging.properties under WEB-INF/classes in order lo let Tomcat read 
the file.
Everything worked fine.

But I think it will only run under Tomcat. So, I will keep looking into 
x4juli.jar to find a general solution.

Thanks all!

Boris Unckel, I am testing x4juli.jar. I will send you the results.

Thanks again.


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Assunto: RE: need suggestion about jdk 1.4 logging in Tomcat

> From: Alan Honczar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Subject: need suggestion about jdk 1.4 logging in Tomcat
> 
> I need a suggestion about java logging within a context.
> I´d like to have a way to isolate the jdk1.4 log between 
> Tomcat contexts.

You didn't bother to tell us what Tomcat version you're using.  If you're on 
the current one (5.5.x), have you read this?
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/logging.html

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Trouble understanding security constraints

2006-02-08 Thread Alan Chandler
My normal deployment of Tomcat is behind apache2, and up to now I have been 
using basic authentication defined by Apache's configuration file as to who 
has access to what.

I am about to implement the piece of the application that allows users to 
change their own passwords, and the administrator to set up and administer 
users.

In order to develop and test the application where I am only running tomcat 
(controlled via eclipse) I need to replicate the security controls I will 
eventually be putting in place via apache.

given a servlet application called /usermgr, then relative to that root, I 
need url patterns /* to require that any user who has an entry in the user 
table of the JDBCRealm I am using is prompted to login, and must successfully 
do so, whereas to access a url pattern of /admin/* I need to ensure that the 
person who has logged in has the role of 'admin'.

I think I need something like this in my web.xml file.  Have I understood this 
correctly?



 
Valid Users 

 /* 


*





 
Site Admin 

 /admin/* 


admin



but where I am stuck is with the login config


BASIC



Is realm name just some descriptive text to prompt the user with, or has it 
any other significance, and am I limited to only one user prompt for both 
security constraints?

Finally, what does security role mean within there.  ie do I need the 
following

  
Site administrator
admin
  

and what does it acutally mean?




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Re: Trouble understanding security constraints

2006-02-08 Thread Alan Chandler
On Thursday 09 February 2006 04:05, Bill Barker wrote:
> "Alan Chandler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
> This works correctly in TC 5.x.  You need to reverse the order for TC 4.1.x
> (this is due to a change in the respective versions of the servlet spec
> they implement).
>
> > 
> >
> >  
> >Valid Users
> >  
> >   /* 
> > 
> >
> > *
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> >  
> >Site Admin
> >  
> >   /admin/* 
> > 
> >
> > admin
> >
> > 
> >
Since I am doing everything for TC 4.1.3 (Debian Stable) and just to be clear, 
do you mean the following (ie swapping round the security-constraints)



 
Site Admin 

 /admin/* 


admin




 
    Valid Users 

 /* 


*



Otherwise thank you very much that was very clear.
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Setting up a parallel test environment on the same machine as main server

2006-02-12 Thread Alan Chandler
I have a setup on my home web site that consists of apache2 front ending 
Tomcat 4.1, connected via jk_mod.  Both software packages actually sit on the 
same machine, which is the gateway between the WAN and my LAN, and has two 
Ethernet Cards  The external web site (www.chandlerfamily.org.uk) has the WAN 
address, my other addresses are several IP addresses from the 192.168.0.0 
range, all simultaneously served off the LAN side interface.  An internal dns 
allocates lan addresses with names of the form *.home

At the current time, the definition of all the jk directives is held in a file 
called jk.conf, which is included into the apache configuration at a global 
level (ie outside any virtual hosts directives).  There is a single 
workers.properties file which defines a worker called tomcat sitting on 
appserv.home (one of the ip addresses refered to in the first paragraph)

There is a single JkMountFile directive inside the jk.conf file that refers to 
a urimap.properties file that maps what gets mapped to be served by the 
tomcat worker and what gets mapped to be served as static content.

I want to set up a testing environment in apache such that prior to new 
versions of the application going live, I would like to run them in some form 
of test mode in a separate (apache) virtual host. I will use the name 
test.home which is yet another ip address on this same box for the apache 
virtual host.  I am doing that so I can access the same database engine (also 
on this machine) [Full testing on a separate machine will have happened 
first, so this not as daft as it might seem]

Unless anyone here can suggest a better way, I would like to move the 
JkMountFile directive from global scope to virtual host scope and have two 
separate files urimap files so that I can map different things dependent on 
which virtual host.

However, since this is a live site I don't want to just conduct the simple 
experiment to see if will work, so I am asking here if this is OK.

Although this is a simplistic approach, the downside seems to be that unless I 
also separate tomcat into two separate virtual hosts I cannot use the same 
servlet name for both production and test instances of my application. 

However, I don't fully understand the relationship between ,  
and  stanza's in the server.xml file, and until I do, I am reluctant to 
muck about with it and potentially screw the currently working arrangement.

Can I ask, am I right in thinking...

 and  have a one to one mapping and effectively map on to a 
single IP address assigned to the server (although it never seems to be 
specified directly as it gets picked up from one of the defaulthost 
attribute), and that each  represents a single name from the dns that 
maps onto that IP address.   Therefore there may be several host stanza's but 
all hosts must have the same IP address.

However I am confused about workers and the jvmRoute attribute on the  
tag. Inside the workers.properties file you define the host for a given 
instance of a worker.  Therefore, how to the workers get mapped on to the 
virtual hosts?

In otherwords, in order to separate namespaces for my apache virtual hosts' 
connection to tomcat do I need one or two  stanza's mapped to 
one or two separate 


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Re: Setting up a parallel test environment on the same machine as main server

2006-02-14 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 12 February 2006 17:07, Alan Chandler wrote:
...
> Unless anyone here can suggest a better way, I would like to move the
> JkMountFile directive from global scope to virtual host scope and have two
> separate files urimap files so that I can map different things dependent on
> which virtual host.
>
> However, since this is a live site I don't want to just conduct the simple
> experiment to see if will work, so I am asking here if this is OK.

Is there really nobody on this list who can answer this simple question?

...
> However, I don't fully understand the relationship between ,
>  and  stanza's in the server.xml file, and until I do, I am
> reluctant to muck about with it and potentially screw the currently working
> arrangement.

Specifically, there was some conversation here about it best that if tomcat 
was running on the same box as the web server (which it is in my case) that 
it would be best to make the connection between apache2 and tomcat be via 
localhost.  That being the case, how can I map the SAME servlet name but from 
a different virtual host (albeit ip based) on apache to DIFFERENT hosts on 
the same tomcat engine.

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Re: Setting up a parallel test environment on the same machine as main server

2006-02-14 Thread Alan Chandler
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 12:36, Tim Lucia wrote:
> 1. Moving the JkMount directive inside a  will make it
> accesible from only that virtual host.  So, you must repeat common ones,
> such as /jkmanager.  I put the mappings (JkMount(s)) right in the virtual
> host definition(s) with no trouble at all.

Thanks - just what I needed confirmation on

>
> 2. The virtual host is determined by the http host header, not by the
> connector host name.  This is true for both httpd and tomcat (and any other
> web server.)

Not sure I understand what you are mean here by "http host header", isn't that 
the name of the web site that I am accessing (ie as known by apache) rather 
than as known by a backend topcat



At the moment, I have apache, with two virtual host names of


home.chandlerfamily.org.uk (also known as www.chandlerfamily.org.uk) (ip 
address of my WAN)
money.home (ip address of 192.168.0.32)

based on ip addressing only (ie not named virtual hosts - because it also 
needs to support https where named virtual hosts are not supported)

which all end up using tomcat services for parts of the web site (urls as 
defined in JkMountFile).  It is all directed to a single tomcat host via a  
single worker.properties file with the following

worker.list=tomcat

worker.tomcat.type=ajp13
worker.tomcat.host=appserv.home
worker.tomcat.port=8009
worker.tomcat.connect_timeout=10

and a single host on the server.xml line defined as

appserv.home

This appserv.home (ip address 192.168.0.31) is certainly currently getting all 
the traffic it should get from apache - but I don't see how that is related 
to the http host in the header.

BUT ...

Do you mean that if I had changed my workers thusly

worker.list=production,test

worker.production.host=prodserv.home
worker.test.host=testserv.home
... for the other parameters

but where both prodserv.home, and testserv.home had the SAME ip address (say 
127.0.0.1 :-) )

AND i add an apache virtual host of test.home (ip address 192.168.0.39)

That I can differenciate them in the server.xml file by having an engine 
running of localhost, but with two hosts with names of prodserv.home and 
testserv.home respectively, and that provided the JkMountFile was then moved 
into the correct apache virtual host context, then the same url could be 
mapped by one apache virtual host to worker production and the other apache 
virtual host could map to worker test.

I could then have different versions of the same app running on production and 
test.



>
> You can always install Apache httpd + Tomcat on a second machine (or on the
> same machine on a separate set of ports), if you are reluctant to try it on
> you production host.
>
> HTH,
> Tim
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> To: users@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Setting up a parallel test environment on the same machine as
> main server
>
>
> On Sunday 12 February 2006 17:07, Alan Chandler wrote:
> ...
>
> > Unless anyone here can suggest a better way, I would like to move the
> > JkMountFile directive from global scope to virtual host scope and have
> > two separate files urimap files so that I can map different things
> > dependent on which virtual host.
> >
> > However, since this is a live site I don't want to just conduct the
> > simple experiment to see if will work, so I am asking here if this is
> > OK.
>
> Is there really nobody on this list who can answer this simple question?
>
> ...
>
> > However, I don't fully understand the relationship between ,
> >  and  stanza's in the server.xml file, and until I do, I
> > am reluctant to muck about with it and potentially screw the currently
> > working arrangement.
>
> Specifically, there was some conversation here about it best that if tomcat
> was running on the same box as the web server (which it is in my case) that
> it would be best to make the connection between apache2 and tomcat be via
> localhost.  That being the case, how can I map the SAME servlet name but
> from
> a different virtual host (albeit ip based) on apache to DIFFERENT hosts on
> the same tomcat engine.

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Re: Setting up a parallel test environment on the same machine as main server

2006-02-14 Thread Alan Chandler
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 12:36, Tim Lucia wrote:
>
>
> You can always install Apache httpd + Tomcat on a second machine (or on the
> same machine on a separate set of ports), if you are reluctant to try it on
> you production host.


Of course in an ideal world I would - but this is my home, and I don't have 
any more spare machines.  I am already testing on an independant machine 
first, but I want to essentially bring a new version gently into play - 
running off of a single database on my main server - just to prove that I can 
bring the application up in as close to production environment as possible in 
a test environment before switching it to live.

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Re: Setting up a parallel test environment on the same machine as main server

2006-02-14 Thread Alan Chandler
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 01:13, Tim Lucia wrote:
> The http host header is sent by the user-agent ("browser") based on the
> address requested in the URL.  This is how virtual hosts are
> differentiated. Tomcat supports a  container for virtual host
> differentiation, just like Apache does.  You do not need to change the
> workers at all.  Tomcat sees the same host header that Apache does.  I.e.,
> using Tamper Data and FireFox, I see
>
> Host=www.chandlerfamily.org.uk

Yes - I get that part.

>
> When I request your web site.  (Along with a photo of you, presumably, in a
> tie & sunglasses ;-)  You might also want to send just "Apache" for the
> server, rather then

Yes its me (although they are my normal glasses that I wear all the time - 
they just have light sensitive lenses), taken at my daughters graduation from 
Southampton University in the summer 2004 :-)

>
> Server=Apache/2.0.54 (Debian GNU/Linux) mod_auth_pgsql/2.0.2b1 DAV/2
> SVN/1.1.4 mod_jk/1.2.14 mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.3.5 PHP/4.3.10-16
> mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7e mod-xslt/1.0.0rc1
>
> As it is "more secure".  How to do this was recently discussed on this
> list.

Low priority - but I'll look at it.

>
> So, you should have two virtual hosts (by name) in both server.xml and
> httpd.conf.  Not sure how to solve the https problem -- never tried to
> myself.

This is where I get lost.  I currently have two virtual hosts on apache 
pointing at the same virtual host on tomcat ALL with different names - so 
this doesn't square with what you are saying  of there being a one to one 
mapping.

This server is running linux, with two ethernet cards. On the WAN side (which 
is what you can see) my ISP allocated via dhcp a single IP address.  That is 
the www.chandlerfamily.org.uk address. On the lan side, I can allocate 
multiple IP addresses to the card in a set of "psuedo devices", so at the 
moment it has address 192.168.0.20 and 192.168.0.30, 31, 32 and 39.  Each of 
these is given separate names such as roo.home, appserv.home, webmail.home 
money.home and test.home by a nameserver also running on that machine

On apache I have a number of virtual hosts set up (but because of the https 
problem they MUST be differenciated by ip address).  At the moment I have the 
virtual hosts www.chandlerfamily.org.uk and money.home directing traffic to 
tomcat on the host appserv.home (the home page you saw was being generated in 
a java application).

I want to add a tomcat host to serve java applications to an apache virtual 
host running on test.home.  If I understand you correctly you would advocate 
creating additional  elements of my server.xml file with names of 
www.chandlerfamily.org.uk and test.home (I presume I have to keep default 
host of appserv.home just so that tomcat knows which ip address to listen 
on).  If I do that how do I pick up traffic to money.home? add another  
statement with repeated contexts?



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Re: error in tomcat

2006-03-10 Thread Alan Chaney
One place to start might be in your web.xml file. About half way down 
you have a message saying



Mar 10, 2006 2:03:42 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.ContextConfig
applicationWebConfig
SEVERE: Parse error in application web.xml
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: addChild:  Child name 'default' is
not unique
   at
o


And at the end you have


   at org.apache.catalina.startup.Bootstrap.main(Bootstrap.java:409)
Mar 10, 2006 2:03:42 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.ContextConfig
applicationWebConfig
SEVERE: Occurred at line 43 column 15
Mar 10, 2006 2:03:42 PM org.apache.catalina.startup.ContextConfig start
SEVERE: Marking this application unavailable due to previous error(s)

 



Does 'line 43 column 15' refer to something relevant in web.xml?

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Re: how can I run normal web sites using Tomcat?

2006-03-13 Thread Alan Chaney

Hi Andrew

Tomcat is not a 'general purpose' web server - rather, it is a 'Java web 
application' server and is specifically designed to support a number of
standards for serving Java web-based applications (eg, the 'servlet 
spec'). If you need to run a 'mixed' set of web applications, including 
static (.htm or .html) pages and PHP and CGI scripts you should probably 
consider running both the Apache HTTP server and Tomcat together. I've 
had quite a lot of success with this, but its not exactly trivial to setup.


See http://httpd.apache.org/ for more details on the Apache server.

See the http://tomcat.apache.org/connectors-doc/ page for more 
information on linking Tomcat to Apache.


You can combine Apache and Tomcat with the mod_jk connector, which means 
that when you can configure the system to pass Java specific requests to 
Tomcat and serve PHP and CGI with Apache.


Although it is possible to serve static HTML pages with Tomcat such as 
you can create with Dreamweaver etc,  it certainly doesn't offer the 
ability to serve PHP content except as CGI. You can see 
http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/cgi-howto.html for how to serve 
CGI with Tomcat. You *could* use a command line PHP script as a CGI 
program but frankly it's not a very good way to do it.


To recap - if you want to serve Java, PHP and other CGI (say PERL) then 
use Apache as the front end and Tomcat for the Java side of things. If 
you don't need to serve Java applications at all, then you probably 
don't need Tomcat!



Regards

Alan Chaney


Andrew E. Davidson wrote:


Hello



Does anyone one know how I can run normal web sites on Tomcat? By normal I
mean sites that are produced using a tool like Microsoft's front page, or
Dream weaver. The web masters of these sites want to publish their site
changes using FTP. They do not have the ability to create WAR files.



Does anyone know what I would have to do to run a web site that was
implemented using PHP or CGI scripts?



Thanks



Andy



p.s. I did not find anything about this topic on the documentation, FAQ's,
or Tomcat reference books I have purchased






 



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question regarding alias for context

2006-03-20 Thread Alan Honczar
Hi,
Maybe I will ask a stupid question but I did not found how to do it yet...

I have 2 contexts in my Tomcat 4.1 ctxA and ctxB.
My clients access them with full URLs: 
https://myserver.com/ctxA/page.jsp and
https://myserver.com/ctxB/page.jsp

Those contexts have different revisions of an application.

I´d like to kill the ctxA making the clients access ctxB in a transparent way.

I am trying to find a way of removing the webapp ctxA and configure the string 
"ctxA" as an alias to the context ctxB.

Anyone could give me directions? 

Thank you very much.

Alan



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RES: question regarding alias for context

2006-03-23 Thread Alan Honczar
Sorry the persistence, but as I still did not found a way of doing that I am 
reposting and trying to explain myself better.

The problem is that my clients are POS based applications and the URL used is 
fixed. 
Part of the POSs are pointing to context A and the others to context B because 
of different app versions (different branches). 
Now, ctx B is able to receive the old requests that are now for ctx A, but the 
URL is fixed in the POSs.

I have 3 alternatives:

a. recall the terminals. (not recommendable)
b. substitute the context A with an app that replaces the fixed URL. (implies 
in lots of burocracy)
c. configuring an alias to context B, forcing the old URL to reach ctx B. 

I tried making Apache redirect the requests of ctxA to the connector of ctxB, 
but it did not work. TomCat is still loading the classes of ctxA. I´d like 
TomCat to understand ctxA as ctxB.

Please help, and thanks in advance...
Alan

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Assunto: question regarding alias for context

Hi,
Maybe I will ask a stupid question but I did not found how to do it yet...

I have 2 contexts in my Tomcat 4.1 ctxA and ctxB.
My clients access them with full URLs: 
https://myserver.com/ctxA/page.jsp and
https://myserver.com/ctxB/page.jsp

Those contexts have different revisions of an application.

I´d like to kill the ctxA making the clients access ctxB in a transparent way.

I am trying to find a way of removing the webapp ctxA and configure the string 
"ctxA" as an alias to the context ctxB.

Anyone could give me directions? 

Thank you very much.

Alan



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RES: question regarding alias for context

2006-03-23 Thread Alan Honczar
Yes, Apache 1.3.29. I will try to find those rules.
Thank you very much.

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De: Allistair Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 23 de março de 2006 11:12
Para: Tomcat Users List
Assunto: RE: question regarding alias for context

I would have thought some Apache [RewriteRule]s would do the trick. Do you use 
an Apache web server in front of Tomcat (you seem to suggest so with (c))

Allistair

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To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RES: question regarding alias for context

Sorry the persistence, but as I still did not found a way of doing that I am 
reposting and trying to explain myself better.

The problem is that my clients are POS based applications and the URL used is 
fixed. 
Part of the POSs are pointing to context A and the others to context B because 
of different app versions (different branches). 
Now, ctx B is able to receive the old requests that are now for ctx A, but the 
URL is fixed in the POSs.

I have 3 alternatives:

a. recall the terminals. (not recommendable) b. substitute the context A with 
an app that replaces the fixed URL. (implies in lots of burocracy) c. 
configuring an alias to context B, forcing the old URL to reach ctx B. 

I tried making Apache redirect the requests of ctxA to the connector of ctxB, 
but it did not work. TomCat is still loading the classes of ctxA. I´d like 
TomCat to understand ctxA as ctxB.

Please help, and thanks in advance...
Alan

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março de 2006 19:26
Para: Tomcat Users List
Assunto: question regarding alias for context

Hi,
Maybe I will ask a stupid question but I did not found how to do it yet...

I have 2 contexts in my Tomcat 4.1 ctxA and ctxB.
My clients access them with full URLs: 
https://myserver.com/ctxA/page.jsp and
https://myserver.com/ctxB/page.jsp

Those contexts have different revisions of an application.

I´d like to kill the ctxA making the clients access ctxB in a transparent way.

I am trying to find a way of removing the webapp ctxA and configure the string 
"ctxA" as an alias to the context ctxB.

Anyone could give me directions? 

Thank you very much.

Alan



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RES: RES: question regarding alias for context

2006-03-23 Thread Alan Honczar
You are very right, I could do this within my app in context A, but I would 
have to keep and maintain context A for forwarding...

If I change the context A, I will do a permanent solution by writing a JSP that 
changes the client variable that defines the context name that forms the URL 
(affecting the next gets and posts). That would force the app to download the 
newer version. After verified that all the clients have migrated, I could rm 
the ctx A.

I think that it will be the way, because mod_rewrite is available for Apache2 
and latest...

Thank you very much!
Best regards,
Alan


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Enviada em: quinta-feira, 23 de março de 2006 12:08
Para: Tomcat Users List
Assunto: Re: RES: question regarding alias for context


Please be aware of the difference between *redirect* and *forward* ( 
http://www.javapractices.com/Topic181.cjp ). With the java UrlRewriteFilter 
package ( http://tuckey.org/urlrewrite/ ) you can only do a *redirect* between 
different contexts. To do a transparently forwarding you need a web server like 
Apache or IIS. But maybe you can define a (servlet) mapping for your clients in 
your web.xml.

Hope that helps
Lothar


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> Von: "Tomcat Users List" 
> Gesendet: 23.03.06 15:24:59
> An: "Tomcat Users List" 
> Betreff: RES: question regarding alias for context


> Yes, Apache 1.3.29. I will try to find those rules.
> Thank you very much.
> 
> -Mensagem original-
> De: Allistair Crossley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Enviada em: quinta-feira, 23 de março de 2006 11:12
> Para: Tomcat Users List
> Assunto: RE: question regarding alias for context
> 
> I would have thought some Apache [RewriteRule]s would do the trick. Do you 
> use an Apache web server in front of Tomcat (you seem to suggest so with (c))
> 
> Allistair
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Honczar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 23 March 2006 14:06
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: RES: question regarding alias for context
> 
> Sorry the persistence, but as I still did not found a way of doing that I am 
> reposting and trying to explain myself better.
> 
> The problem is that my clients are POS based applications and the URL used is 
> fixed. 
> Part of the POSs are pointing to context A and the others to context B 
> because of different app versions (different branches). 
> Now, ctx B is able to receive the old requests that are now for ctx A, but 
> the URL is fixed in the POSs.
> 
> I have 3 alternatives:
> 
> a. recall the terminals. (not recommendable) b. substitute the context A with 
> an app that replaces the fixed URL. (implies in lots of burocracy) c. 
> configuring an alias to context B, forcing the old URL to reach ctx B. 
> 
> I tried making Apache redirect the requests of ctxA to the connector of ctxB, 
> but it did not work. TomCat is still loading the classes of ctxA. IŽd like 
> TomCat to understand ctxA as ctxB.
> 
> Please help, and thanks in advance...
> Alan
> 
> -Mensagem original-
> De: Alan Honczar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviada em: segunda-feira, 20 de 
> março de 2006 19:26
> Para: Tomcat Users List
> Assunto: question regarding alias for context
> 
> Hi,
> Maybe I will ask a stupid question but I did not found how to do it yet...
> 
> I have 2 contexts in my Tomcat 4.1 ctxA and ctxB.
> My clients access them with full URLs: 
> https://myserver.com/ctxA/page.jsp and
> https://myserver.com/ctxB/page.jsp
> 
> Those contexts have different revisions of an application.
> 
> IŽd like to kill the ctxA making the clients access ctxB in a transparent way.
> 
> I am trying to find a way of removing the webapp ctxA and configure the 
> string "ctxA" as an alias to the context ctxB.
> 
> Anyone could give me directions? 
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> Alan
> 
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problem building tcnative

2006-05-31 Thread Alan Chandler
Trying to get rid of this error message when I start tomcat 5.5.17

"The Apache Tomcat Native library which allows optimal performance in 
production environments was not found on the java.library.path"

I discovered I have to build the tcnative library, but its giving me problems.  
I am running under Debian unstable, having installed libapr1-dev .

In essence I run this command

./configure --with-apr=/usr/bin/apr-config 
--with-java-home=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun 
&& make && make install


and after configuring correctly, the first line of the make file fails

make[1]: Entering directory `/home/alan/dev/tomcat-native-1.1.3/jni/native'
/bin/sh /usr/share/apr-1.0/build/libtool --silent --mode=compile 
i486-linux-gnu-gcc -pipe -Wall -g -O2 -pthread  -pipe -Wall -g -O2 
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DLINUX=2 -D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE   -g 
-O2 -DHAVE_OPENSSL   -I/home/alan/dev/tomcat-native-1.1.3/jni/native/include 
-I/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/include 
-I/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/include/linux  -I/usr/include/apr-1.0   -o 
src/os.lo -c src/os.c && touch src/os.lo
/bin/sh: /usr/share/apr-1.0/build/libtool: No such file or directory

Tracking back what seems to be happening is that configure runs 
build/tcnative.m4 which includes this

  APR_BUILD_DIR="`$apr_config --installbuilddir`"

($apr_config is the apr-config tool I specified on the command line, and 
outputs this - /usr/share/apr-1.0/build )

and then it sets up build/rules.mk where APR_BUILD_DIR gets turned into 
apr_builddir.  Then this line inside rules.mk defines libtool thus

LIBTOOL=$(SHELL) $(apr_builddir)/libtool

which is where the error occurs, because libtool is (in Debian) in /usr/bin, 
not in  /usr/share/apr-1.0/build/

The question is - where is the error?  in the Debian packaging or in this 
piece of tomcat, or have I missed some parameter of the ./configure?


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Changing defaultHost from localhost to a FQDN

2006-10-26 Thread Alan Burlison

I'm sure this must be a FAQ, but I can't find the answer anywhere.  I
have a simple standalone tomcat install that works just fine, but as
soon as I change the Engine defaultHost and Host name fields from
"localhost" to "myhost.com", everything stops working.  As well as
changing the entries in server.xml I also renamed the localhost
directory in the Catalina directory to "myhost.com", but although the
server starts OK and I get no errors in the log files, any attempt to
access the application gets a 404 - including the standard tomcat
manager app.  I notice there are localhost lines in logging.properties
- do I need to change them as well?  I find the logging.properties
documentation to be pretty much impenetrable, to be frank.

Here's my server.xml.  In case anyone wonders, the port=80 isn't the
problem, the tomcat user has been given permissions to access that
port, and it worked fine on port 80 before I changed the hostname from
localhost.  Any and all suggestions (including RTFMs)  gratefully
received - I'm at my wits end with this!

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Re: Changing defaultHost from localhost to a FQDN

2006-10-27 Thread Alan Burlison

I just tried the same change, and it all works fine - assuming you have
made an entry for myhost.com in your hosts file, restarted Tomcat, and
cleared your browser's cache.


That occured to me just after I sent mail ;-)  I've just tried that
and it didn't help, unfortunately :-(


> 

I realize the protocol attribute is supposed to default to "HTTP/1.1",
but just for grins, you might try setting it.


The odd thing is that it does appear to be serving *html* from under
the web application directory, just not JSPs.  If I put an index.html
under webapps/ROOT I see the content.

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Re: Changing defaultHost from localhost to a FQDN

2006-10-27 Thread Alan Burlison

On 27/10/06, Pid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

And try adding myhost.com, instead of changing the host
name.  The latter changes expected dir locations too, which is probably
why your app is broken.


I suspect you are right - I renamed the directories under Catalina
from localhost to the FQDN when I made the change, but it still
doesn't work.  And if I try invoking a JSP by its full path, I get a
classNotFoundException.

The really annoying thing is the Tomcat documentation shows FQDN names
being used, yet it doesn't actually work unless you use 'localhost' -
if you need to make other changes when you change the host name, they
should really be called out in the docs.

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Re: Changing defaultHost from localhost to a FQDN

2006-10-27 Thread Alan Burlison

If your host entry is pointing to the same IP as the host= in server.xml then 
that will work e.g. localhost is same as myhost.com
If your host entry points to a different IP then change the host specification 
in server.xml to the new host name in your situation myhost.com
Be sure to put the correct port number as in http://host:Port


I have.  It doesn't work.


Alan are you by chance related to Don?


Not as far as I know...

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Re: Changing defaultHost from localhost to a FQDN

2006-10-27 Thread Alan Burlison

I've just tried it again with both 5.5.20 and 6.0.0, changing
"localhost" to "myhost.com" in two places in server.xml ( and
) and in the Windows hosts file.  Everything works, including
JSPs and servlets.

For 5.5.20, my server.xml is the default one with the two changes noted
above.  You might want to go back to a fresh download, change only those
two items, and try it again.  It's possible you've accidentally taken
out something critical for JSP compilations.


I have it working - well, kinda.  If I deploy the application as ROOT,
and with ROOT as the docBase it works fine.  If I move it to "meshcms"
(the WAR file name) and modify docRoot to match, it doesn't.  It
serves the JSP but all the links in the page (e.g. to the stylesheets)
are wrong.

Looks like there is something wrong with the webapp.

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Running tomcat on port 80 on Solaris 10 or above

2006-10-27 Thread Alan Burlison

On 27/10/06, Asensio, Rodrigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Yes sir! This simple solution worked in the first try!!!
Thanks man!

iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8080

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 8080 -j ACCEPT


For anyone who is running on Solaris 10 or above, there's an even
better way - use SMF to start tomcat, and in the SMF manifest, add
this to the start service definition:



Adjust as appropriate for the user & group you are running tomcat
under, of course.  This allows the tomcat user to open low-numbered
ports for the duration of startup.sh.

I'm mentioning this here because I haven't seen it documented anywhere
- hopefully people will be able to find it in the archives in future
;-)

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Re: Changing defaultHost from localhost to a FQDN

2006-10-27 Thread Alan Burlison

The above is confusing to me.  Where is the app deployed?


webapps/ROOT (works) or webapps/meshcms (doesn't)


 Where is the  element for this app located?


conf/server.xml


 What are the attributes  specified for this ?





With Tomcat 5 and above,  elements should not go in server.xml,
the path attribute must not be used, and docBase can be used only when
the  element is in conf/[engine]/[host]/[appname].xml AND the
app is not deployed in the 's appBase directory.


Ah, and I'm using 5.5.  I've checked the 5.5 docs and I can't find
*any* of those restrictions mentioned, other than a recommendation
that  elements aren't placed in server.xml, but I got the
impression that this was advisory, not mandatory.

So how *should* I do what I want, i.e. deploy the app in a directory
called meshcms under webapps, or am I forced to name it ROOT if I want
it to be the default application?

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Re: Changing defaultHost from localhost to a FQDN

2006-10-29 Thread Alan Burlison

On 27/10/06, Caldarale, Charles R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


The 5.0 and 5.5 docs are mild upgrades of the 4.1 versions, and some
areas did not get revised as much as they should have.  5.5 especially
seems to be stricter on use of unnecessary attributes when the 
element is not in server.xml; what I posted has been gleaned from
experience.


Thanks ;-)


For compatibility, you can still place  elements in server.xml,
but it's strongly discouraged, since it requires a Tomcat restart to
make any changes.

> So how *should* I do what I want, i.e. deploy the app in a directory
> called meshcms under webapps, or am I forced to name it ROOT if I want
> it to be the default application?

The current philosophy is that the default app must be named ROOT.


Ah, that's not entirely clear from the docs.  I can live with that, my
initianl assumption (wrong) was that the name didn't actually matter.


There are three ways to achieve this:

1) Deploy the app in the ROOT subdirectory of the 's appBase
directory, removing any ROOT.war file if it exists.

2) Deploy the packaged app as ROOT.war in the 's appBase
directory, removing the ROOT subdirectory if it exists.

3) Deploy the app outside of the 's appBase directory, and place a
ROOT.xml file in conf/[engine]/[host].  The ROOT.xml file must contain a
 element with a docBase attribute pointing to the location of
the app.

Note that in the first two cases, you often do not need any 
element for the app.  If you do require one (e.g., to configure the app
as privileged), place the element and attributes in META-INF/context.xml
inside the app directory structure.  Alternatively, you may place the
 element in conf/[engine]/[host]/[appname].xml, but without the
docBase attribute.

If you place a  element with a docBase attribute in
conf/[engine]/[host]/[somefile].xml and put the app under the 's
appBase directory using a name other than [somefile], you will get the
app deployed twice - once as the .xml file name, once as the
subdirectory or .war file name under appBase.


That's an excellent, clear, summary - I haven't been able to find
anything else that explains the three cases you outline above.
Hopefully it might make its way into the official documentation at
some point ;-)

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Deploying war files to subdir contexts through web Manager

2006-12-18 Thread Alan Cooper

Hi,
 I would like to deploy war files through the Manager 
application but I am having difficulty setting a COntext path that is 
not in the root folder.


E.g., I have a war file called monitoring.war - I can deploy this as 
"http://servername.com/monitoring"; no problem, but as I'm using Tomcat 
behind apache using JkMounts, I really want to deploy to 
/ejava/monitoring/ as everything under /ejava os mounted.


Can I do this only using the war deployer or am I back to manually 
configuring context paths through server.xml?


web.xml I'm currently using that isn't doing what I want it to..





2.2//EN

" "http://java.sun.com/j2ee/dtds/web-app_2_3.dtd";>



   Lumison Monitoring App
   
   This is a simple web application containing a single servlet
   of the "Hello, World" variety.
   

   
   Monitoring
   Monitoring
   

   
   Monitoring
   /ejava/monitoring
   




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Replace SSLServerSocketFactory?

2007-01-22 Thread Alan Marcinkowski
Hello All,

 

I know that there used to be (in tomcat 4) a way to replace the
SSLServerSocketFactory that got used to create the listener. I'm using
5.5 and want to put in a custom socket factory with a custom
TrustManager that uses external configuration to make client
authentication decisions. We're using tomcat embedded (writing code
around the org.apache.catalina.startup.Embedded class) to try and setup
the server. I looked at the Catalina source code and found in
Http11BaseProtocol.java:

 

private void checkSocketFactory() throws Exception {

if (secure) {

try {

// The SSL setup code has been moved into

// SSLImplementation since SocketFactory doesn't

// provide a wide enough interface

sslImplementation =

 
SSLImplementation.getInstance(sslImplementationName);

socketFactory =
sslImplementation.getServerSocketFactory();

ep.setServerSocketFactory(socketFactory);

} catch (ClassNotFoundException e){

throw e;

}

} else if (socketFactoryName != null) {

try {

socketFactory = string2SocketFactory(socketFactoryName);

ep.setServerSocketFactory(socketFactory);

} catch(Exception sfex) {

throw sfex;

}

}

}

 

Which leads me to believe that directly overriding the factory is no
longer doable (also noticing that the  element is gone from the
XML server configuration file. Does anyone know a way to provide a
custom SSL implementation in 5.5 without rebuilding / rewriting the
actual Catalina code?

 

TIA,

 

Alan



Tomcat not reading context path directive

2007-01-29 Thread Alan Cooper

HI there,

I'm running Tomcat 5.5.12 (Red Hat Enterprise Linux stock packages).

I am trying to set a Context path directive for /ejava/appname

Tomcat is ignoring the Context path and instead taking the context from 
the xml file name (so it's reading the file and the docBase directive). 
The servlet is served, just not from the desired context.  I am setting 
the context up in /etc/tomcat5/Catalina/localhost/bield.xml.


My xml file looks like:





override="true"
privileged="true" antiResourceLocking="false" 
antiJARLocking="false">


 




Any ideas where I'm going wrong?

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File permission problem not understood

2007-02-05 Thread Alan Chandler
I have just upgraded my Debian Etch system from tomcat5 to tomcat5.5

Now when I start my applications I am getting the following

javax.servlet.ServletException: Unable to initialize application 
servlet: access denied 
(java.io.FilePermission 
/var/lib/tomcat5.5/webapps/blog/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/hivemodule.xml 
read)


the root cause of this is ...
java.security.AccessControlException: access denied 
(java.io.FilePermission 
/var/lib/tomcat5.5/webapps/blog/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/hivemodule.xml 
read)


The file refered to exists and is accessable by tomcat
ls -l /var/lib/tomcat5.5/webapps/blog/WEB-INF/classes/META-INF/hivemodule.xml

gives

-rw-r--r-- 1 tomcat55 nogroup  1035 2006-01-26 19:13 hivemodule.xml

so I puzzled as what I need to do to fix it.

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Re: File permission problem not understood

2007-02-06 Thread Alan Chandler
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 09:57, Pid wrote:
> Do you have a SecurityManager running?
>
> Alan Chandler wrote:
> > I have just upgraded my Debian Etch system from tomcat5 to
> > tomcat5.5

Yes - that was the issue - I had turned it off on tomcat5

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context placement

2007-02-06 Thread Alan Chandler
I am trying to use tomcat 5.5 for the first time - having just moved 
from tomcat5.

I am getting symptoms (I think) of my JDNI resource having not been set 
up properly

In particular, I have NO contexts in my $CATALINA_HOME/conf/server.xml, 
since I want to bring these in in my webapps .war file.

So in the .war file for my app I have a META-INF/context.xml file with 
the following in (apart from the password which I have changed)






and my application attempts to connect to the JDNI resource

java:/comp/env/jdbc/usermgr

But when I run it, I get the following in the error message

Cause: org.apache.commons.dbcp.SQLNestedException: Cannot create JDBC 
driver of class '' for connect URL 'null'


I am interpreting this as the JDNI resource has not been recognised.

Do I have the right interpretation?
Have I misunderstood how tomcat can find the contexts?

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Re: context placement

2007-02-06 Thread Alan Chandler
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 20:03, Alan Chandler wrote:
>
> I am getting symptoms (I think) of my JDNI resource having not been
> set up properly

I forgot to say that I have this working under eclipse on a development 
system, but it seems (as part of the Web App plugin) to copy the 
contents of context.xml into server.xml

My reading of the docs of tomcat5.5 is that I don't need to do this (nor 
to Catalina/ENGINE_NAME/HOST_NAME/usermgr.xml)


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Re: context placement

2007-02-06 Thread Alan Chandler
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 20:34, Pid wrote:
> Alan Chandler wrote:
> > On Tuesday 06 February 2007 20:03, Alan Chandler wrote:
> >> I am getting symptoms (I think) of my JDNI resource having not
> >> been set up properly

> Context first:

Yeh just took that out as per suggestion further up thread
>
> you don't need to specify the /path.
> the path to the webapp is determined from the name of the deployed
> .war or the name of the context.xml file.
>
> for:
>   %tomcat_home%/webapps/appname1.war
>
> the context xml file should deploy to:
>   %tomcat_home%/conf/Catalina/localhost/appname1.xml


When you say this, are you saying that tomcat automatically copies from 
the the META-INF/context.xml file in the .war file to that location

(in my case that would 
be /var/lib/tomcat5.5/conf/Catalina/appserv.home/usermgr.xml because my 
host is appserv.home)

BUT

I only have an EMPTY localhost directory in 
the /var/lib/tomcat5.5/conf/Catalina directory and
no appserv.home directory at all.




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[SOLVED] Re: context placement

2007-02-06 Thread Alan Chandler
On Tuesday 06 February 2007 20:46, Alan Chandler wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 February 2007 20:34, Pid wrote:
> > Alan Chandler wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 06 February 2007 20:03, Alan Chandler wrote:
> > >> I am getting symptoms (I think) of my JDNI resource having not
> > >> been set up properly
...

> > for:
> >   %tomcat_home%/webapps/appname1.war
> >
> > the context xml file should deploy to:
> >   %tomcat_home%/conf/Catalina/localhost/appname1.xml
>
> When you say this, are you saying that tomcat automatically copies
> from the the META-INF/context.xml file in the .war file to that
> location
>

Answer yes - but only if it has permissions.

I think this is a debian problem in that Catalina directory is owned by 
root with 755 access rights.  

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Re: Programmatically detecting login or logout events

2008-07-28 Thread Alan Chaney


Martin the problem is that even when you invalidat the session... the 
browser itself still knows that the user is cool...
So TC will send it a new session ID and it will return the info without 
even asking the user to logon as such...




Please indicate the part of the Tomcat code which makes the above 
behavior happen. I quote from the Servlet 2.4 spec.


"If the user is authenticated using form login and has created an HTTP 
session, the timeout or invalidation of that sessions leads to the user 
being logged out in the sense that subsequent requests must be 
re-authenticated." (SRV.12.5.3.1 Login Form Notes)


so I don't think what you say is correct.


Even when a user opens a new page in the browser... it knows they 
"still" cool

Until the browser is closed they logged on ;)
And there is no direct "the browser is gone event"... browsers are 
stateless yada yada


This isn't actually correct. Invalidating the session on the server 
means that the browser's record of the session is as though the session 
never existed. Tomcat will no longer 'associate' session state with the 
session Id provided by the browser and all the state in the session is 
lost (unless persisted by an application.)


request.getRemoteUser() will return null because the browser and server 
can no longer agree on a sessionID, this is as other contributors have 
said the 'logged out' state.


The standard servlet authentication mechanisms will redirect any 
furtheraccess to protected pages to the selected login mechanism as soon 
as the session is invalidated.




if request.getRemoteUser() has the users name... they on... you dont 
know when they off


but you can track the user... either you have that in every page and if 
you get a name you record time page url...
or you can stick that in a filter... which sits in front of all your 
pages, so you dont have to doctor every page on a site...


You know when they in... you dont know when they gone..


It is true that unless you have some javascript code which specifically 
generates an event to say that the browser is logged out AND the network 
connection is still valid, you don't actually know that the browser has 
'gone'. However, you can easily generate a session timeout event.


I have actually implemented user state logging (detect log in event, 
detect navigation events and detect either manual logout or session 
timeout and it works fine. It is driven entirely from looking at the 
state of 'getRemoteUser' and the session timeout event.


Regards

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Re: Committing sendRedirect()

2008-07-29 Thread Alan Chaney

Tore

Your code below is written as though the 'out' was like writing data to 
a console. The processing in a servlet is part of a  request/response 
cycle, where the 'request' tells it what to do and the response is the 
reply.


Because of the nature of the request/response cycle you only get one 
chance at the reply. The javadocs for HttpServletResponse.sendRedirect 
make this clear.


"If the response has already been committed, this method throws an 
IllegalStateException. After using this method the response should be 
considered to be committed and should not be written to."


In other words, in one servlet request/response cycle you get exactly 
one chance to issue a 'sendRedirect'. If you think this through you'll 
see that this is how it has to be:


Browser sends request to servlet
Servlet process request and sendsRedirect
Browser display response.

Your problem is that you are trying to generate a second response 
without a correspondng request. The first response is for the 'top 25' 
and the second is for 'all the rest', but by then you've already 
committed the response.


To achieve what I think you are trying to achieve would require you to 
create some mechanism where the lucene query results are processed in a 
separate thread and your application makes TWO requests - one for the 
first set of results and then one for the final set of results.


There are far too many different ways to do this to detail here - I hope 
this helps


Regards

Alan Chaney



Tore Eriksson wrote:

Hi everybody,

I have a problem with redirects in Tomcat 5.5.25. I am doing a Lucene
search and would like to send a redirect after finding the top 25 hits,
commit this response, and then continue processing the remaining hits.
The relevant parts of the doPost() code are as below:

final int PARTIAL_HITS = 25;

for (int i = 0; i < hits.length(); i++) {

  Document doc = hits.doc(i);
  String citation = doc.get("citation");

  /** Insert into table */
  try {
insertId.setInt(1, java.lang.Integer.parseInt(citation));
insertId.executeUpdate();
  }
  catch (SQLException e) {
out.sendError(500, "Bad SQL insert: " + e);
  }
  catch (Exception e) {}

  if (i == PARTIAL_HITS) {
// Intermittant redirect
out.sendRedirect(resultUrl);
  }
}

insertId.close();

if (!out.isCommitted()) {
  // Final redirect
  out.sendRedirect(resultUrl);
}

My problem is that the intermittant redirect is not committed until the
function returns, which will take quite some time for some queries. I
have tried HttpServletResponse.flushBuffer() and other possible
variations. Any pointers would be most appreciated.

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Re: Intgrate Tomcat and PHP in winxp

2008-08-18 Thread Alan Chaney

Radhakrishna

The main issue here is that it is probably not worth doing. You would 
probably be better off investigating tuning apache and php. I assume 
that your existing installation uses mod_php? If so, the php and apache 
lists may be of help. httpd can be extensively tuned for memory 
footprint and performance.


Tomcat is a java application server. The cgi access method is a 
convenience for working with other types of application (non-java). If 
you use the cgi approach you will:


1. create an entirely new process for each request (very time consuming 
in both memory and cpu cycles)


2. be open to more security vulnerabilities. See 
http://www.php.net/manual/en/security.cgi-bin.php


Unless your server is serving predominantly java applications with a few 
 PHP apps your proposed approach will be slower, not faster, and more 
difficult to maintain.


As far as doing it 'step by step', IMHO this is an 'advanced' task and 
you should not be undertaking it until you fully understand all the 
implications for performance and security. As Tommy suggests, read and 
understand the documentation first.


Regards

Alan Chaney


Radhakrishnavangara wrote:

Hi Tommy,

That was really informative. But let me explain you the actual scenario. I
am using an application called phpESP ( a survey tool developed in PHP) and
running on Apache httpd. The application is running fine, but it is
consuming lot of memory space in the server. So we have decided to move the
application and deploy on a lighter application server. That's the reason we
have decided to deploy on Tomcat. So could you please let me know your
opinion on the same. 


Also i am a beginner to PHP and Tomcat. Also i have spend lot of time on
this and now i have to some how finish this task. Offline i will take your
guidance on understanding this technology. For now could you please explain
us with the step by step instruction on how to finish the same task.







Regards,
Radhakrishna





Tommy Pham wrote:

Hi Radhakrishna,

--- On Sun, 8/17/08, Radhakrishnavangara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:


From: Radhakrishnavangara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Intgrate Tomcat and PHP in winxp
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Date: Sunday, August 17, 2008, 3:24 PM
Hi,

Could you please let me know the step by step instructions
for integrating
Tomcat with PHP on Win XP. I have tried implementing
various methodologies
to integrate the same , but i could not achieve any
breakthrough on the
same. Below are some of the links to the articles which i
have referred.
Could you please go through the same and clarify me on this
issue. 


http://www.windowscomputer.com/node/3814
http://www.theasolutions.com/tutorials/tomcatphp.jsp
http://the-double-0-project.net/blog/?tag=tomcat
http://209.85.175.104/search?q=cache:szlV41sb9qwJ:uranus.im.chu.edu.tw/~dtchang/phpexplorer/html/download.php%3Ffn%3D..%252F..%252Fpub%252F.%252Fdownload%252Fapache_tomcat%252FRunning%2Bphp%2B5.x%2Bon%2Bwindows%2Busing%2Btomcat%2B4.x%2Bor%2B5.x%2B-%2BSimple%2BThoughts%2B-%2BJava%2Band%2BWeb%2BSoftware.pdf+angusman+tomcat&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=7&gl=in
http://www.duminy.fr/blog/?p=22&language=en

Thanks and Regards,
Radhakrishna
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IMO if you want to use PHP with Tomcat, it's best you read the
documentation for both products and their technology as it will help you
secure the server/platform and troubleshoot any problems that may arise
including application crashes and security breaches.
For PHP5: http://www.php.net/manual/en/
For Tomcat6: http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/index.html
For Tomcat5.5: http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/index.html

You can just go through the installation steps w/o doing the actual
installation to see what you have available.  Though I haven't tried this
method, I think you can run PHP as CGI in Tomcat.  You'll just have to
edit the web.xml in $CATALINA_HOME/conf folder and follow PHP's
instruction of installing as CGI.

The method I prefer and have tested to work (in Unix environment although
on Windows should be similar) is running Apache HTTPD server with PHP as a
mod and use the connector to connect to Tomcat.  If this method is used,
it's easier to implement other technologies later such Perl, Python and
Mono (for .Net) inside Apache HTTPD as mod-*.

But you may want to evaluate your needs and goals before choosing ;)

Regards,
Tommy

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