Re: Summary of AOO 4.0 download activity for 1st week

2013-08-02 Thread Urmas

"Rob Weir":
In what way do you think this is true?

Bugs/features affecting Windows integration or performance are overlooked, 
sometimes for 2–3 years. Compatibility and interaction with Windows-only 
software is ridiculed.


Those ones affecting Linux get more attention. It gives a clear message that 
developers give no crap about users and are concerned only with their 
corporations' interests.


My pet peeve is the terrible work with dictionaries in Windows version which 
makes me use a Linux VM just to proofread documents. 




-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



Re: Summary of AOO 4.0 download activity for 1st week

2013-08-02 Thread Martin Groenescheij

Yes, you're right, there is a lot that could be improved but keep in mind that 
Oracle hasn't done anything to improve the product.
I have a lot of respect for the hard work these volunteers do.

Sent from my iPad

On 02/08/2013, at 8:12 PM, "Urmas"  wrote:

> "Rob Weir":
> In what way do you think this is true?
> 
> Bugs/features affecting Windows integration or performance are overlooked, 
> sometimes for 2–3 years. Compatibility and interaction with Windows-only 
> software is ridiculed.
> 
> Those ones affecting Linux get more attention. It gives a clear message that 
> developers give no crap about users and are concerned only with their 
> corporations' interests.
> 
> My pet peeve is the terrible work with dictionaries in Windows version which 
> makes me use a Linux VM just to proofread documents. 
> 
> 
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> 

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



Re: Summary of AOO 4.0 download activity for 1st week

2013-08-02 Thread JB
On Fri, 2 Aug 2013 17:12:19 +0700
"Urmas"  wrote:

> "Rob Weir":
> In what way do you think this is true?
> 
> Bugs/features affecting Windows integration or performance are overlooked, 
> sometimes for 2–3 years. Compatibility and interaction with Windows-only 
> software is ridiculed.
> 
> Those ones affecting Linux get more attention. It gives a clear message that 
> developers give no crap about users and are concerned only with their 
> corporations' interests.
> 
> My pet peeve is the terrible work with dictionaries in Windows version which 
> makes me use a Linux VM just to proofread documents. 
> 

  So you'd rather whine about some kind of 'problem' (that you don't give an 
example
  of btw, and which you simply could have written to this list about...2-3 years
  ago...to ask about it or let the dev's know about it) and pet peeves of a 
*FREE*
  software suite instead of going and using/buying the similar app (which has
  hundreds of people *getting paid* to work on) built purely for that nasty 
Windows
  OS?

  You wouldn't happen to be sitting in a park, using someone elses wireless
  connection to get online, defecating anywhere you please along with a
  hundred other people who haven't bathed in a couple weeks instead of being at 
work
  like the rest of us and are holding signs complaining about those who worked 
hard
  to have the money and company(ies) they own, would you?

  There's no pleasing the ungrateful.



-- 
“Those who suppress freedom always do so in the name of law and order.” -John v.
Lindsey


signature.asc
Description: PGP signature


Re: Summary of AOO 4.0 download activity for 1st week

2013-08-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Urmas wrote:

Those ones affecting Linux get more attention.


The 4.0.0 release was delayed to fix one specific bug, that only 
affected Windows 8 systems.



My pet peeve is the terrible work with dictionaries in Windows version
which makes me use a Linux VM just to proofread documents.


Dictionaries are exactly the same on all platforms. If you have 
dictionary problems on Windows, reset your profile:

http://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426

If you still have problems, write again but please include more details 
(your language + your dictionary version + one specific problem).


Regards,
  Andrea.

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



Re: Summary of AOO 4.0 download activity for 1st week

2013-08-02 Thread Urmas

"Andrea Pescetti":


Dictionaries are exactly the same on all platforms.


...Except the Linux version does use dictionaries from a filesystem 
directory, while the Windows one doesn't.




-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



After updating to Version 4, I had to return to Version 3.4.1.1

2013-08-02 Thread Victor Goff
I have an iMac and after updating to V4, I had to return to V3.4.1.1 because I 
could not type a letter in any of the fonts without great difficulty.  The 
image on the screen and cursor did not match up.
-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



Tavutus

2013-08-02 Thread Timo Kivelä

Hei
Latasin OpenOffice version 4. Writer ei osaa  tevuttaa. "Käytettävissä 
olevat kielimoduulit" ikkuna on tyhjä, "Muokkaa" nappula on himmeänä, 
joten se ei toimi. Miten saan tavutuksen käyttöön?

Kiitän vastauksesta jo etukäteen
Timo Kivelä

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



Fwd: Tavutus [= Hyphenation]

2013-08-02 Thread Brian Barker

From: Timo Kivelä  (not subscribed)


Hei
Latasin OpenOffice version 4. Writer ei osaa 
t[a]vuttaa. "Käytettävissä olevat kielimoduulit" 
ikkuna on tyhjä, "Muokkaa" nappula on himmeänä, 
joten se ei toimi. Miten saan tavutuksen käyttöön?

Kiitän vastauksesta jo etukäteen
Timo Kivelä


Or, in English:

Hello
I downloaded the Open Office version 4. Writer 
does not know how to hyphenate. "Available 
language modules" window is empty, the "Edit" 
button is greyed out so it does not work. How do I get hyphenation?

Thank you very much in advance
Timo Kivelä




-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



Re: Summary of AOO 4.0 download activity for 1st week

2013-08-02 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Urmas  wrote:
> "Rob Weir":
>
> In what way do you think this is true?
>
> Bugs/features affecting Windows integration or performance are overlooked,
> sometimes for 2–3 years. Compatibility and interaction with Windows-only
> software is ridiculed.
>

There are old bugs on all platforms.  And there are platform bigots on
all platforms.  None of that is going to change.  But I don't see any
evidence that the needs of Windows users are prioritized less than Mac
OS or Linux users.

> Those ones affecting Linux get more attention. It gives a clear message that
> developers give no crap about users and are concerned only with their
> corporations' interests.
>

What corporations do you think are more concerned with Linux than Windows?

> My pet peeve is the terrible work with dictionaries in Windows version which
> makes me use a Linux VM just to proofread documents.
>

Spell checking on Windows works fine as far as I can tell.


-Rob

>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



Re: Tavutus

2013-08-02 Thread Tom Backer Johnsen
Timo

Ikke særlig lett å forstå.  Kan du engelsk?

Tom

On 2. Aug 2013, at 16:08 , Timo Kivelä  wrote:

> Hei
> Latasin OpenOffice version 4. Writer ei osaa  tevuttaa. "Käytettävissä olevat 
> kielimoduulit" ikkuna on tyhjä, "Muokkaa" nappula on himmeänä, joten se ei 
> toimi. Miten saan tavutuksen käyttöön?
> Kiitän vastauksesta jo etukäteen
> Timo Kivelä
> 
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> 

Tom Backer Johnsen
Søndre Steinkjellersmauet 7
5003 Bergen
Mobil: +47 9169 3346
Email: backer(at)psych.uib.no


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



Re: Fwd: Tavutus [= Hyphenation]

2013-08-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Brian Barker wrote:

Or, in English:

Hello
I downloaded the Open Office version 4. Writer does not know how to
hyphenate. "Available language modules" window is empty, the "Edit"
button is greyed out so it does not work. How do I get hyphenation?


I assume we are speaking about the Finnish version, right? The Finnish 
version does not include any dictionaries: see

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/trunk/main/extensions.lst?view=markup
(you will see there's nothing marked with "language=fi").

If you are writing in English, you can get the English dictionary 
included with the English version of OpenOffice 4 from 
http://extensions.openoffice.org/node/17102


Otherwise, just give more context and we will be able to help you better.

Regards,
  Andrea.

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



Re: Summary of AOO 4.0 download activity for 1st week

2013-08-02 Thread Dave.Mainwaring
What was that company that used  to used to compete with OO?   Micro
something 
--
http://tinyurl.com/cx6bbng

http://tinyurl.com/kmjaygo
--



On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:12 AM, Urmas  wrote:
>> "Rob Weir":
>>
>> In what way do you think this is true?
>>
>> Bugs/features affecting Windows integration or performance are overlooked,
>> sometimes for 2–3 years. Compatibility and interaction with Windows-only
>> software is ridiculed.
>>
>
> There are old bugs on all platforms.  And there are platform bigots on
> all platforms.  None of that is going to change.  But I don't see any
> evidence that the needs of Windows users are prioritized less than Mac
> OS or Linux users.
>
>> Those ones affecting Linux get more attention. It gives a clear message that
>> developers give no crap about users and are concerned only with their
>> corporations' interests.
>>
>
> What corporations do you think are more concerned with Linux than Windows?
>
>> My pet peeve is the terrible work with dictionaries in Windows version which
>> makes me use a Linux VM just to proofread documents.
>>
>
> Spell checking on Windows works fine as far as I can tell.
>
>
> -Rob
>
>>
>> -
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>>
>
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
>

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



Use the components of OpenOffice.

2013-08-02 Thread Дмитрий Пучков
   Hello
   I thank the community for creating OpenOffice. Please tell me
whether you can use the components are part of OpenOffice, such as
images for example, or others. Tell me whether it is possible, for
example, copy the files from the directory C: \ Program Files (x86) \
OpenOffice 4 \ share \ gallery (eg Computer-Laptop-Black.png or
others) for use in my application.
   Best regards, Dmitry from Russia.

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



Re: OpenOffice Writer 4.0.0 crashes, Writer 3.4.1 works correctly

2013-08-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

(removing useless lists from recipients)

On 28/07/2013 Robert Hupp wrote:

OpenOffice Writer 4.0.0 crashes, Writer 3.4.1 works correctly
yesterday I installed OpenOffice 4.0.0 retaining 3.4.1. Copying a wiki
article OpenOffice Writer 4.0.0 crashed consistently. Example: The
crashing point lies within the highlighted area (text made with Writer
3.4.1 and copied to Thunderbird), between Français
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmodernisme and Links bearbeiten
http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q47783#sitelinks-wikipedia :
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmoderne


I cannot crash OpenOffice 4 by copying and pasting text from
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postmoderne
(either the portion you described or the whole page). Maybe you need to 
give some more details. Also check if CTRL-Shift-V (Paste Special, 
Unformatted) works.


Regards,
  Andrea.

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



RE: After updating to Version 4, I had to return to Version 3.4.1.1

2013-08-02 Thread Brian P. Seay
   I also went back to Version 3.4, the 4.0 doesn't work correctly on windows 7 
or 8. I've noticed most of my problems in the spreadsheets, that's where I 
spend most of my time.

Brian

> From: vgoff...@verizon.net
> Subject: After updating to Version 4, I had to return to Version 3.4.1.1
> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 10:01:16 -0400
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org
> 
> I have an iMac and after updating to V4, I had to return to V3.4.1.1 because 
> I could not type a letter in any of the fonts without great difficulty.  The 
> image on the screen and cursor did not match up.
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> 
  

Re: Summary of AOO 4.0 download activity for 1st week

2013-08-02 Thread Hagar Delest

Le 02/08/2013 14:05, Urmas a écrit :


...Except the Linux version does use dictionaries from a filesystem directory, 
while the Windows one doesn't.


It depends on how you install it. If you install from the debs (as I always 
do), then it's the same as under Windows.
I use AOO at work on Windows and at home under GNU/Linux (xubuntu) and have 
never really seen any major difference.

Hagar

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



Re: Summary of AOO 4.0 download activity for 1st week

2013-08-02 Thread Larry Gusaas

On 2013-08-02 3:16 PM Dave.Mainwaring wrote:

What was that company that used  to used to compete with OO?   Micro
something 
--



Do you have a real question or are you just posting your spam links?

--
_

Larry I. Gusaas
Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada
Website: http://larry-gusaas.com
"An artist is never ahead of his time but most people are far behind theirs." - 
Edgard Varese



-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



Re: Use the components of OpenOffice.

2013-08-02 Thread Lavie Chabom
Fichier/Ouvrir/(eg. components.png)
File/Open/(same eg.)

Laval Chabon
fran...@me.com



Le 2013-08-02 à 13:15, Дмитрий Пучков  a écrit :

>   Hello
>   I thank the community for creating OpenOffice. Please tell me
> whether you can use the components are part of OpenOffice, such as
> images for example, or others. Tell me whether it is possible, for
> example, copy the files from the directory C: \ Program Files (x86) \
> OpenOffice 4 \ share \ gallery (eg Computer-Laptop-Black.png or
> others) for use in my application.
>   Best regards, Dmitry from Russia.
> 
> -
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
> 


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



Can't launch open office

2013-08-02 Thread Sean Sullivan
Am unable to launch open office on a new mac mini OSX 10.8.3Get the following message: "OpenOffice" can't be opened because it is from an unidentified developer.Your security preferences allow installation of only apps from Mac App Store and identified developers.Here is the screen shot:S

Re: Can't launch open office

2013-08-02 Thread Dominique Lecarpentier
Hello,

Clic at the "question mark"  "?" on the window you show on the screenshot

Here is explained how to proceed to open the application of non identified 
developers

Best regards

Dominique 
_
06 22 79 29 03
domle...@gmail.com



Le 3 août 2013 à 08:25, Sean Sullivan  a écrit :

> Am unable to launch open office on a new mac mini OSX 10.8.3
> 
> Get the following message: "OpenOffice" can't be opened because it is from an 
> unidentified developer.
> 
> Your security preferences allow installation of only apps from Mac App Store 
> and identified developers.
> 
> Here is the screen shot:
> 
> S
> 
> 


-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org



Re: Can't launch open office

2013-08-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Sean Sullivan wrote:

Am unable to launch open office on a new mac mini OSX 10.8.3
Get the following message: "OpenOffice" can't be opened because it is
from an unidentified developer.


It's the first of the "Known Issues" we listed in the Release Notes. 
Solution: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+Release+Notes#AOO4.0ReleaseNotes-KnownIssues

Regards,
  Andrea.

-
To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org
For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org