Re: [DISCUSS] ODF file formats vs Zip
Le 10/06/2013 02:16, Richard Detwiler a écrit : Also, I don't know if this is the case with auto-save, but when manually saving, I'm pretty sure that things can not be "undone" prior to the save. If this is indeed the case with auto-save, this is another very good reason not to use it. You may have done something you really want to undo, but if the auto-save happens, you can't. (Again, I'm not positive whether this is the case with auto-save like with manual save, but I'm guessing it may be.) No. The auto-save operation does not reset the undo history (same with standard save). Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Openoffice Base Feature
On 05/06/2013 TCNS Customer Service - Gigi Baxter wrote: This information may only relate to Open Office Base software. ... Since version 2.4.0 when you click in the record search box, search for text box the contents of the field are not selected. With version 2.4.0 when you open the dialog box, the contents of the field are selected. This makes editing easy. I tried the newer versions, and keep going back to version 2.4.0 Hello Gigi, it's not very clear to me where the problem is. Could you open an issue on https://issues.apache.org/ooo (you will need to register there), set product to "Base" (then we will set other fields appropriately), provide a step-by-step description and, if at all possible, a screenshot of the "right" case (2.4.0) and one of the "wrong" (post-2.4.0) one? This will make it easier to investigate. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Codes
On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 05:17:07 -, Rory O'Farrell wrote: One tip: in many versions (all? I haven't checked) of OpenOffice it can be difficult (impossible?) to insert a curly quote into the Replace box from /Insert /Special Characters. inserting special characters into that box is available from the context menu or through shift+ctrl+s. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: [DISCUSS] ODF file formats vs Zip
Well, the Saved copy doesn't preserve Undo history, and Hagar is correct: Performing Save does not clear the Undo history for the document that remains open. Whether an AutoSave recovery will recover the Undo history to that point is something that can be verified by an experiment of some kind. I also realize that I don't know if AutoSave is completely separate from the document recovery material used after crashes and other situations or that's what AutoSave is updating. More experimentation! Helpful documentation? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Hagar Delest [mailto:hagar.del...@laposte.net] Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 03:37 AM To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] ODF file formats vs Zip Le 10/06/2013 02:16, Richard Detwiler a écrit : > Also, I don't know if this is the case with auto-save, but when manually > saving, I'm pretty sure that things can not be "undone" prior to the save. If > this is indeed the case with auto-save, this is another very good reason not > to use it. You may have done something you really want to undo, but if the > auto-save happens, you can't. (Again, I'm not positive whether this is the > case with auto-save like with manual save, but I'm guessing it may be.) No. The auto-save operation does not reset the undo history (same with standard save). Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Codes
2013/6/23 Rory O'Farrell : > One tip: in many versions (all? I haven't checked) of OpenOffice it can be > difficult (impossible?) to insert a curly quote into the Replace box from > /Insert /Special Characters. Compose >" → ” Compose <" → “ Compose ," → „ Note that the Compose key should not be hold while typing the other characters, that's why there is no ”+” after ”Compose”. Just press Compose (which key it is depends on your settings, I use Caps Lock for Compose which I find very convenient), release it, press the first character, release it, press the second one and release it. Sometimes there are three characters to press, like Compose --. for – (n-dash) and Compose --- for — (m-dash). Or there is, of course, the Unicode way: Ctrl+Shift+u 201c → “ Ctrl+Shift+u 201d → ” Ctrl+Shift+u 201e → „ The method is slightly different for different software and operating systems. These work with most GNU/Linux distributions unless you try to type those characters in the Opera web browser (which I do right now). If so, replace ”Ctrl+Shift+u ” with ” Ctrl+Shift+x”. I am sure there are other software out there than Opera that requires a slightly different approach… Johnny Rosenberg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] ODF file formats vs Zip
I don't think that's true. I think that if you close a document without saving, it will revert back to its state before opening it even if it has been autosaved during the editing process. Only if you explicitly save it will you be unable to do that. It's as though the only purpose of autosave is the event of a system failure. In the even of a system failure you have the option at reboot of recuperating all changes made up to the last autosave, but you can decline. Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU http://leather.casaerwin.org On 6/23/2013 5:37 AM, Hagar Delest wrote: Le 10/06/2013 02:16, Richard Detwiler a écrit : Also, I don't know if this is the case with auto-save, but when manually saving, I'm pretty sure that things can not be "undone" prior to the save. If this is indeed the case with auto-save, this is another very good reason not to use it. You may have done something you really want to undo, but if the auto-save happens, you can't. (Again, I'm not positive whether this is the case with auto-save like with manual save, but I'm guessing it may be.) No. The auto-save operation does not reset the undo history (same with standard save). Hagar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] ODF file formats vs Zip
Are you saying that if, while editing a document, I do an explicit save, I can still use the undo feature for anything I have changed during the current session? Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU http://leather.casaerwin.org On 6/23/2013 5:37 AM, Hagar Delest wrote: Le 10/06/2013 02:16, Richard Detwiler a écrit : Also, I don't know if this is the case with auto-save, but when manually saving, I'm pretty sure that things can not be "undone" prior to the save. If this is indeed the case with auto-save, this is another very good reason not to use it. You may have done something you really want to undo, but if the auto-save happens, you can't. (Again, I'm not positive whether this is the case with auto-save like with manual save, but I'm guessing it may be.) No. The auto-save operation does not reset the undo history (same with standard save). - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Save and Undo]
At 18:12 23/06/2013 -0500, Dale Erwin wrote: Are you saying that if, while editing a document, I do an explicit save, I can still use the undo feature for anything I have changed during the current session? Yes. (Up to the maximum number of Undos, of course - is that 30 by default?) What happened when you tested this yourself? Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Save and Undo]
I haven't actually tested this explicitly yet, but I certainly will do so very soon. I just never thought it would be possible so I never tried it. I do know, however, that no many how many times the file has been autosaved, if I close the document without an explicit save, it will revert back to the same state it was in before it was opened. Dale Erwin Jr. 28 de Julio 657, Depto. 03 Magdalena del Mar, Lima 17 PERU http://leather.casaerwin.org On 6/23/2013 6:40 PM, Brian Barker wrote: At 18:12 23/06/2013 -0500, Dale Erwin wrote: Are you saying that if, while editing a document, I do an explicit save, I can still use the undo feature for anything I have changed during the current session? Yes. (Up to the maximum number of Undos, of course - is that 30 by default?) What happened when you tested this yourself? Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [Save and Undo]
At 19:22 23/06/2013 -0500, Dale Erwin wrote: I do know, however, that no matter how many times the file has been autosaved, if I close the document without an explicit save, it will revert back to the same state it was in before it was opened. Good. If this were not so, surely no-one would dream of using the product? Brian Barker - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
