Re: color of recorded changes
Hi Gary, just enter a name in /tools/options/user data/ or modify one item within that dialog. The colors used are differentiated by user data. Am 10.12.2012 00:45, schrieb Gary Aitken: How does one determine / change the color used when recording changes to a writer document? I'm working with a .docx from ms word, which I will export as a .odt. When I turn on Edit/Changes/Record the color used (there are no others in the document) is a very difficult to see light tan/yellow. Is there a way to assign the color used by author? Kind regards, Joost - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Mailinglist address
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Re: color of recorded changes
I think you sent this to me erroneously, I'm not Gary. Neil Logan Box 861 Tofino, BC V0R 2Z0 250-726-3924 > > From: Joost Andrae >To: ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org >Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 12:46:34 AM >Subject: Re: color of recorded changes > >Hi Gary, > >just enter a name in /tools/options/user data/ or modify one item within >that dialog. The colors used are differentiated by user data. > >Am 10.12.2012 00:45, schrieb Gary Aitken: >> How does one determine / change the color used when recording changes to a >> writer document? >> >> I'm working with a .docx from ms word, which I will export as a .odt. >> When I turn on Edit/Changes/Record the color used (there are no others in >> the document) is a very difficult to see light tan/yellow. >> >> Is there a way to assign the color used by author? >> > >Kind regards, Joost > > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > >
Re: Mailinglist address
Then do I need to re-send my question? Thanks! Neil Logan Box 861 Tofino, BC V0R 2Z0 250-726-3924 > > From: Josef Latt >To: ooo-us...@incubator.apache.org >Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 1:21:42 AM >Subject: Mailinglist address > >Hi, > >the address of the mailing list was changed to: > >users@openoffice.apache.org > >Thanks > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > > >
Help With Page Numbering
I need to enumerate only "leaves" in LibreOffice, and not "pages" as usual. For example, in two-sided printing, if four pages, we have two folhas.Necessito that on the first sheet (page 1) appear number 1, and the second sheet (would page 3) appear 2, as the numbering the leaves and no pages. That is, I have to count every two pages. So, appear on page 1 "Sheet 1", on page 2 would also be "Sheet 1" on page 3 "Sheet 2" and so forth pro ... It would then be as follows: - The first page would display the number 1 - The second page would display the number 1 (as would be the 'verso' of Page 1, and therefore the same sheet) - Page 3 would display the number 2 - 4 page would display the number 2 (as would be the 'verso' of page 2, and thus the same sheet) - Page 5 would display the number 3 And so on ... In MSWord could do this using the following technique: a) In the header (or footer) of the page, insert a table with two columns and one row (ie, you will insert two cells side by side). b) In each of the two cells, have Word insert the page number (it will create a field in each cell, and this field will display the page number). c) Click the right mouse button in the cell on the left (just about the number) and choose "Edit field". A window will open with options field contents. d) Choose the "Formula" and put the following formula for the field: = Round (Sum (Right) / 2, 0) e) Ensure that the cell on the left displays the number you need (ie, the number of leaf). f) If everything is OK, set the table to not display lines, and change the font color from white to another cell in order to hide it. But in Br.Office Writer could not use the same technique. Does anyone know how to help me? Thank you in advance! -- View this message in context: http://openoffice.2283327.n4.nabble.com/Help-With-Page-Numbering-tp4634370.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Text flow questions
Gary, I am using OOo3.3.0. I can highlight each of your frames then go to Format>Wrap>Page Wrap, which will allow me to move that frame anywhere on the page with the text wrapping around it. This must be done for each frame. Hope this helps. Don On 12/10/2012 1:03 AM, Gary Aitken wrote: Hi all, I've attached an odt file derived from something I was working on that is driving me nuts as far as text flow is concerned. I don't understand how anchoring affects text flow, or why in some cases text does not fill up a hole on the page. If someone can point me to a detailed explanation of how the filling works I would appreciate it. Questions regarding the attached document: 1. If Frame3 is moved to the right so there is whitespace between it and Frame4, the text begins on a line even with the top of Frame3 and Frame4, and fills the whitespace between the two frames and the space immediately below Frame4. However, as it stands with Frame3 overlapping Frame4, it does not fill the space immediately below Frame4. Why not? 2. Why is paragraph 3 forced to page 2? Why doesn't it start in the empty space to the left of Frame5? If paragraph 2 is shortened by one line, Frame5 shifts up and paragraph three begins in the whitespace between Frame5 and Frame9. If paragraph 2 is shortened 3 more lines, Frame5 shifts up further and paragraph 3 moves up and begins in the space to the right between Frame5 and Frame7. Shorten by another 4 lines, to the point where the top of Frame5 is slightly above the bottom of Frame2, and the text finally begins to use the whitespace to the left of Frame5. Why didn't paragraph 3 us the space to the left of Frame5 in the first place? 3. Why doesn't paragraph 3 start in the empty space below Frame9? This may be the same as the last part of #2, but originally there was another box in the lower left corner of the page, and I wanted the text to begin in the space between it and Frame8, immediately below Frame9. 4. Frame10 is anchored to paragraph4. If I move it up slightly, the anchor symbol shifts to paragraph3. Why doesn't it stay anchored to its original paragraph? 5. If I move Frame10 up to where its anchor shifts to paragraph 3 and release the mouse, the frame jumps up to page 1, and its anchor point shifts to the left margin below paragraph 2. Why doesn't it stay anchored to paragraph 3, and why doesn't it stay where I dropped it? I would be much appreciative of any pointers to explanations of why this works the way it does. "It's a bug," is also a valid answer, although any explanations which would help me to work around bugs would also be appreciated. Many thanks, Gary - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Text flow questions
On 12/10/12 12:47, Don wrote: > Gary, > > I am using OOo3.3.0. > > I can highlight each of your frames then go to Format>Wrap>Page Wrap, which > will allow me to move that frame anywhere on the page with the text wrapping > around it. This must be done for each frame. Interesting. Thanks, that's a bit of a help. Unfortunately I had cut my real problem down to make a test case, and that doesn't solve the problem there. I've attached a version with an additional frame, Frame11. Even using the Format/Wrap/PageWrap you describe, I cannot get the text to fill in the space below Frame9 and between Frame11 and Frame8. It will fill in to the left of Frame5, and to the right of Frame6, but not the rest. Any ideas what's going on in questions #4 and #5 below? Thanks! > On 12/10/2012 1:03 AM, Gary Aitken wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I've attached an odt file derived from something I was working on that is >> driving >> me nuts as far as text flow is concerned. I don't understand how anchoring >> affects text flow, or why in some cases text does not fill up a hole on the >> page. >> >> If someone can point me to a detailed explanation of how the filling works I >> would appreciate it. >> >> Questions regarding the attached document: >> >> 1. If Frame3 is moved to the right so there is whitespace between it and >> Frame4, >> the text begins on a line even with the top of Frame3 and Frame4, and fills >> the >> whitespace between the two frames and the space immediately below Frame4. >> However, as it stands with Frame3 overlapping Frame4, it does not fill the >> space >> immediately below Frame4. Why not? >> >> 2. Why is paragraph 3 forced to page 2? Why doesn't it start in the empty >> space to the left of Frame5? >> >> If paragraph 2 is shortened by one line, Frame5 shifts up and paragraph three >> begins in the whitespace between Frame5 and Frame9. If paragraph 2 is >> shortened 3 more lines, Frame5 shifts up further and paragraph 3 moves >> up and begins in the space to the right between Frame5 and Frame7. Shorten >> by >> another 4 lines, to the point where the top of Frame5 is slightly above the >> bottom of Frame2, and the text finally begins to use the whitespace to the >> left of Frame5. Why didn't paragraph 3 us the space to the left of Frame5 >> in the first place? >> >> 3. Why doesn't paragraph 3 start in the empty space below Frame9? This >> may be the same as the last part of #2, but originally there was another box >> in the lower left corner of the page, and I wanted the text to begin in the >> space between it and Frame8, immediately below Frame9. >> >> 4. Frame10 is anchored to paragraph4. If I move it up slightly, the anchor >> symbol shifts to paragraph3. Why doesn't it stay anchored to its original >> paragraph? >> >> 5. If I move Frame10 up to where its anchor shifts to paragraph 3 and >> release >> the mouse, the frame jumps up to page 1, and its anchor point shifts to the >> left margin below paragraph 2. Why doesn't it stay anchored to paragraph >> 3, and why doesn't it stay where I dropped it? >> >> I would be much appreciative of any pointers to explanations of why this >> works the way it does. "It's a bug," is also a valid answer, although any >> explanations which would help me to work around bugs would also be >> appreciated. >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Gary >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > Test_11Frames.odt Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Mailinglist address
On 10/12/2012 Josef Latt wrote: the address of the mailing list was changed to: users@openoffice.apache.org This was done several weeks ago, but there is no need for subscribers to take any actions: messages sent to the old address are redirected to the new one, subscriptions are kept and discussions have been archived at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-users/ since November, while the old messages (until October 2012) are still archived at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-users/ If anyone wants to unsubscribe the list, the usual instructions apply: the unsubscription address is at the bottom of each message. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
A Tale of Two Office Suites
I may be way out of line here, but I’m sending this post to the user lists for both LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice. I have both programs on my computer and regularly use both. Like many of you out there, I have subscribed to both user lists. I don’t know the full history behind the Libre/Oracle split, but from what I have read on various forums and lists, there is considerable emotional pain resulting from the split. The result is two different FOSS office suites. Some have pleaded for the two to combine forces. Others have noted that the competition is good for the end user as it results in more rapid development of improvements to both suites. I see both sides, but I’d like to point out one thing I have noticed in my own use of the two programs. Some computer programs are what I would call “load and use.” Programs like web browsers and mail clients, etc., require little to no configuration or customization. One can simply do productive use without much thought. I can easily bounce back and forth between Internet Explorer and Firefox, Live Mail and Thunderbird. Not so with office suites. To get the most out of my office suites, I create and edit templates, page, character and paragraph styles. I have to set the autocorrect functions of each program to my liking to prevent a (c) from turning into a ©. While it’s not essential, I tend to customize my toolbars and have created helpful macros. Effectively using an office suite requires a commitment akin to a marriage. For this reason, bouncing back and forth between two suites is counterproductive. I find myself importing and exporting settings, styles, and templates between the two programs rather than simply doing my work. Why do I put up with this inconvenience? Because each program has essential virtues over the other. For example, if I need to properly hyphenate my US English, I use LibreOffice as (to date), OpenOffice fails to properly hyphenate US English. But, if I need to create mailing lists, as I just did for Christmas cards, I use OpenOffice as its Avery 5160 template is more properly aligned than that found in LibreOffice. LibreOffice remembers my hierarchical stylelist setting, whereas OpenOffice does not, but OpenOffice more effectively supports the advanced Graphite features of the Linux Libertine font. So, depending on my specific needs, I bounce back and forth. I’m sure many would suggest that I help out by reporting bugs. I have done so, but even I get lost keeping track of the bugs of each program that I am most interested in following. I suspect this situation will only get worse as each program develops features that will be lacking in the other. And, while I’m not a developer, my guess is that both programs are so complex that keeping up with each other will become an increasingly elusive effort. And, the time will come when decisions will be made NOT to implement features found in the other program. I truly like the motivation generated with competition, and sometimes having multiple programs on my computer to meet specialized needs can be helpful. But, in the world of office suites, where user commitment is essential to effective use, it would be very helpful to us end users if TDF and Apache could somehow overcome their differences and join forces to give us one glorious office suites rather than two almost glorious office suites. These are just my thoughts. I’d be curious as to how many others are using both programs because of advantages of each over the other. Virgil
text with pictures
I hope that I sent this request to the correct location. In MS Office I can copy a web page that contains both text and pictures and paste it into MS Word. How do I capture both text and pictures into Apache Open office? Please advise. Hans - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: A Tale of Two Office Suites
Hi Carol-Virgil, Carol-Virgil Arrington schrieb: I may be way out of line here, but I’m sending this post to the user lists for both LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice. I have both programs on my computer and regularly use both. Like many of you out there, I have subscribed to both user lists. [..] I’d be curious as to how many others are using both programs because of advantages of each over the other. I use both, because I look, if bugs which I find, are specific to one of them or can be seen in both. For those settings, which has paths in Tools > Options I have created a folder, which is neither in the AOO user folder nor in the LO user folder, but on a separate place on my disk. So I have my templates, autotexts, gallery and pictures in one place and use it from both applications. For macros it should be possible, to use libraries, which are linked, but I have not tried it. Kind regards Regina - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
On 12/10/12 03:47, Martin Groenescheij wrote: > I send the reply to your email address because the reply to > users@openoffice.apache.org bounced. > : host mx1.eu.apache.org[192.87.106.230] said: > 552 > spam score (5.7) exceeded threshold (HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,SPF_PASS > (in reply to end of DATA command) Shame on spam-assassin or whatever it is :-) Thank you! That helps a lot, and I can modify the wrapping options to work for this document. However, I am puzzled because of the following: >> 1. If Frame3 is moved to the right so there is whitespace between it and >> Frame4, >> the text begins on a line even with the top of Frame3 and Frame4, and fills >> the >> whitespace between the two frames and the space immediately below Frame4. >> However, as it stands with Frame3 overlapping Frame4, it does not fill the >> space >> immediately below Frame4. Why not? >Wrapping Optimal for Frame3 doesn't allow text to the left of the Frame >If you change the wrapping for Frame3 from Optimal to Parallel you will see >that it >fill the gaps. If I change Frame3 to use "Before" wrapping, and leave Frame4 at "Optimal", it does not fill in the space under Frame4. I can get that space to fill by changing Frame4 to use "None". But why doesn't option "After" or "Optimal" or "Parallel" also work for Frame4? Just because it can't fill anything to the right because it is physically blocked by the box on the right (that is different from the box on the right forbidding text to its left) doesn't mean it should refuse to use the rest of the space which is actually available. Indeed, the "Parallel" option fills the space to the left of Frame4, but not the space below, even if Frame3 is set to "Before". If Frame3 is set to "Before" and Frame4 is set to "Parallel", why does it fill the space to the left of Frame4 but not the space below it? In this case all three frames say it is ok to put text below Frame4, and Frame2 and Frame4 say it is ok to put text to the left of Frame4, and in both cases Frame4 cannot put text to its right because Frame3 is in the way. But it puts text to the left and not below. As you describe it for Frame3, "Optimal" is behaving the same as "After", allowing no text to its left. How is "Optimal" different from "After"? According to the 3.3 documents "Optimal" only prevents text to its side if there is less than 2cm available space, and in this case there is more than that. >> 3. Why doesn't paragraph 3 start in the empty space below Frame9? This >> may be the same as the last part of #2, but originally there was another box >> in the lower left corner of the page, and I wanted the text to begin in the >> space between it and Frame8, immediately below Frame9. >Frame8 prevent text on the left (Optimal wrapping) Again, just because it can't fill on the right because it's physically blocked doesn't mean it should not use the rest of the space it is allowed to use. In general, wrapping should use all of the space it is allowed to use, unless some other object specifically prevents it from doing so. Again, what is the difference between "Optimal" and "After" if it's not the 2cm rule? Given the pictures of wrapping options in the Frame/Wrap dialog and the descriptions of the wrap options in the documentation, what are the rules to determine whether or not a space is filled? Which of the following statements (if any) are true: 1. In order to fill a space, the wrap options of all surrounding frames must specifically allow text in the space. 2. In order to fill a space, the wrap option of any one of the surrounding frames must specifically allow text in the space. 3. Something else?? Again, I can now see how to get what I want in any particular document by trying different wrap options, but it is not at all clear to me what the algorithm is. Is is also not clear to me what the difference between the "After" and "Optimal" options are, since the 2cm rule is not being applied. >> 5. If I move Frame10 up to where its anchor shifts to paragraph 3 and >> release >> the mouse, the frame jumps up to page 1, and its anchor point shifts to the >> left margin below paragraph 2. Why doesn't it stay anchored to paragraph >> 3, and why doesn't it stay where I dropped it? > You should check values in the Frame window when you move Frames, this way > you > can see what the impact is. Thanks. > In general: if you want the position of your Frames fixed anchor them to Page > while setting the position From left to Entire page or Page text area and > From > Top to to Entire page or Page text area. > If you want them to flow with the paragraph anchor them to the paragraph or > character. > Because you have mixed settings for different Frames you got unpredictable > results. But there is only one frame of interest here, and it is being anchored to one of two paragraphs, both of which are on the same page, page2. There is nothing e
Re: Text flow questions
(resend to get the subject right, sorry for the duplication) Thank you! That helps a lot, and I can modify the wrapping options to work for this document. However, I am puzzled because of the following: >> 1. If Frame3 is moved to the right so there is whitespace between it and >> Frame4, >> the text begins on a line even with the top of Frame3 and Frame4, and fills >> the >> whitespace between the two frames and the space immediately below Frame4. >> However, as it stands with Frame3 overlapping Frame4, it does not fill the >> space >> immediately below Frame4. Why not? > Wrapping Optimal for Frame3 doesn't allow text to the left of the Frame > If you change the wrapping for Frame3 from Optimal to Parallel you will see > that it >fill the gaps. If I change Frame3 to use "Before" wrapping, and leave Frame4 at "Optimal", it does not fill in the space under Frame4. I can get that space to fill by changing Frame4 to use "None". But why doesn't option "After" or "Optimal" or "Parallel" also work for Frame4? Just because it can't fill anything to the right because it is physically blocked by the box on the right (that is different from the box on the right forbidding text to its left) doesn't mean it should refuse to use the rest of the space which is actually available. Indeed, the "Parallel" option fills the space to the left of Frame4, but not the space below, even if Frame3 is set to "Before". If Frame3 is set to "Before" and Frame4 is set to "Parallel", why does it fill the space to the left of Frame4 but not the space below it? In this case all three frames say it is ok to put text below Frame4, and Frame2 and Frame4 say it is ok to put text to the left of Frame4, and in both cases Frame4 cannot put text to its right because Frame3 is in the way. But it puts text to the left and not below. As you describe it for Frame3, "Optimal" is behaving the same as "After", allowing no text to its left. How is "Optimal" different from "After"? According to the 3.3 documents "Optimal" only prevents text to its side if there is less than 2cm available space, and in this case there is more than that. >> 3. Why doesn't paragraph 3 start in the empty space below Frame9? This >> may be the same as the last part of #2, but originally there was another box >> in the lower left corner of the page, and I wanted the text to begin in the >> space between it and Frame8, immediately below Frame9. > Frame8 prevent text on the left (Optimal wrapping) Again, just because it can't fill on the right because it's physically blocked doesn't mean it should not use the rest of the space it is allowed to use. In general, wrapping should use all of the space it is allowed to use, unless some other object specifically prevents it from doing so. Again, what is the difference between "Optimal" and "After" if it's not the 2cm rule? Given the pictures of wrapping options in the Frame/Wrap dialog and the descriptions of the wrap options in the documentation, what are the rules to determine whether or not a space is filled? Which of the following statements (if any) are true: 1. In order to fill a space, the wrap options of all surrounding frames must specifically allow text in the space. 2. In order to fill a space, the wrap option of any one of the surrounding frames must specifically allow text in the space. 3. Something else?? Again, I can now see how to get what I want in any particular document by trying different wrap options, but it is not at all clear to me what the algorithm is. Is is also not clear to me what the difference between the "After" and "Optimal" options are, since the 2cm rule is not being applied. >> 5. If I move Frame10 up to where its anchor shifts to paragraph 3 and >> release >> the mouse, the frame jumps up to page 1, and its anchor point shifts to the >> left margin below paragraph 2. Why doesn't it stay anchored to paragraph >> 3, and why doesn't it stay where I dropped it? > You should check values in the Frame window when you move Frames, this way > you > can see what the impact is. Thanks. > In general: if you want the position of your Frames fixed anchor them to Page > while setting the position From left to Entire page or Page text area and > From > Top to to Entire page or Page text area. > If you want them to flow with the paragraph anchor them to the paragraph or > character. > Because you have mixed settings for different Frames you got unpredictable > results. But there is only one frame of interest here, and it is being anchored to one of two paragraphs, both of which are on the same page, page2. There is nothing else on page2. If I set Frame10's "Position" on the "Type" tab to: Horizontal, 3" from Left Paragraph Area Vertical 0.25" from Top of Paragraph text area It positions correctly, relative to it's anchor in paragraph 4 If I drag it to where the anchor first indicates paragraph 3, the top of the frame i
