Re: [OMPI users] debugging with mpirun

2006-07-07 Thread Manal Helal
Hi

I see that XMPI will do all that I need, but it says, it works with
LAM/MPI up to versions 6.3.2 & 6.5.9, I am not sure if trying that with
open/mpi will work or not, 

Thanks again, 

Manal
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 12:27 +1000, Manal Helal wrote:
> thing that can show me varia



Re: [OMPI users] debugging with mpirun

2006-07-07 Thread Manal Helal
or, if there is openMPI under Windows, where I can do some visual
debugging, 

I appreciate any hints, because my application is getting too big, that
printf are not doing any good, 

thanks, 

Manal
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 14:10 +1000, Manal Helal wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I see that XMPI will do all that I need, but it says, it works with
> LAM/MPI up to versions 6.3.2 & 6.5.9, I am not sure if trying that with
> open/mpi will work or not, 
> 
> Thanks again, 
> 
> Manal
> On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 12:27 +1000, Manal Helal wrote:
> > thing that can show me varia



Re: [OMPI users] MPI_Recv, is it possible to switch on/off aggresive mode during runtime?

2006-07-07 Thread Eric Thibodeau
Although it will add some overhead, have you tried using MPI_Probe before 
calling MPI_Recv. I am curious to know if the Probe is less CPU intensive than 
a direct call to MPI_Recv. An example of how I use it:

MPI_Probe(MPI_ANY_SOURCE,MPI_ANY_TAG,MPI_COMM_WORLD,&status);

MPI_Recv(DispBuff,height,MPI_UNSIGNED_LONG,status.MPI_SOURCE,status.MPI_TAG,MPI_COMM_WORLD,&rstatus);

(This is used to receive known data from an unknown source)

Eric

Le mercredi 5 juillet 2006 10:54, Marcin Skoczylas a écrit :
> Dear open-mpi users,
> 
> I saw some posts ago almost the same question as I have, but it didn't 
> give me satisfactional answer.
> I have setup like this:
> 
> GUI program on some machine (f.e. laptop)
> Head listening on tcpip socket for commands from GUI.
> Workers waiting for commands from Head / processing the data.
> 
> And now it's problematic. For passing the commands from Head I'm using:
> while(true)
> {
> MPI_Recv...
>
> do whatever head said (process small portion of the data, return 
> result to head, wait for another commands)
> }
> 
> So in the idle time workers are stuck in MPI_Recv and have 100% CPU 
> usage, even if they are just waiting for the commands from Head. 
> Normally, I would not prefer to have this situation as I sometimes have 
> to share the cluster with others. I would prefer not to stop whole mpi 
> program, but just go into 'idle' mode, and thus make it run again soon. 
> Also I would like to have this aggresive MPI_Recv approach switched on 
> when I'm alone on the cluster. So is it possible somehow to switch this 
> mode on/off during runtime? Thank you in advance!
> 
> greetings, Marcin
> 
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[OMPI users] readline and mpirun

2006-07-07 Thread s anwar

When I run my MPI enabled application via mpirun, my application
command-prompt looses its readline editing capability. I was wondering if
there is workaround.

Thanks.
Saadat.


Re: [OMPI users] Dynamic COMM_WORLD

2006-07-07 Thread Edgar Gabriel

Eric Thibodeau wrote:

Hello all,

Before I embark on a train that will run out of tracks, I wanted to
get a WFF concerning the spwaning mechanisme in OpenMPI. The intent
is that I would program a "simple" parallel application that would
demonstrate the ability of recent MPI implementations (OpenMPI) to
dynamically ADD or remove processes from the parallel task pool. Of
course, any documentation concerning these new features would also be
greatly appreciated ;)


Open MPI supports spawning new processes as defined in the MPI-2 
specification, see e.g.


http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/mpi/mpi-standard/mpi-report-2.0/mpi2-report.htm

However, please note, that this does not modify MPI_COMM_WORLD. 
MPI_COMM_WORLD is a static communicator which can not be changed, even 
in Open MPI...


Thanks
Edgar


[OMPI users] Client Server

2006-07-07 Thread Abhishek Agarwal

Hello All,

I would like to know if anyone has tested Client server model using OpenMPI. 
Is there a place where i can get some simple example of this type of system.


Thanks
Abhinav




Re: [OMPI users] Dynamic COMM_WORLD

2006-07-07 Thread Eric Thibodeau
Yes, I was interested in the example such as:

http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/mpi/mpi-standard/mpi-report-2.0/node98.htm#Node98

The way I see it, there are litteraly two programs, a Manager program and a 
Worker program which is started by the manager (the example doesn't show if 
multiple workers are started by repeated calls to the spawn command). I 
unsderstand that MPI_COMM_WORLD is somewhat static but I am unclear as to how 
to communicate with future-spawned process... Is there an MPI_COMM_UNIVERSE 
that we can drop in place of the MPI_COMM_WORLD? It's also not clear who 
would be part of MPI_COMM_PARENT other than the process that spawned the 
worker.

Well, I know I have some reading to perform on the whole dynamic/spawning 
process, my query was really to know if OpenMPI was up and ready in that 
field of MPI2.

Thanks,

Eric


Le vendredi 7 juillet 2006 14:09, Edgar Gabriel a écrit :
> Eric Thibodeau wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > Before I embark on a train that will run out of tracks, I wanted to
> > get a WFF concerning the spwaning mechanisme in OpenMPI. The intent
> > is that I would program a "simple" parallel application that would
> > demonstrate the ability of recent MPI implementations (OpenMPI) to
> > dynamically ADD or remove processes from the parallel task pool. Of
> > course, any documentation concerning these new features would also be
> > greatly appreciated ;)
> 
> Open MPI supports spawning new processes as defined in the MPI-2 
> specification, see e.g.
> 
> http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/mpi/mpi-standard/mpi-report-2.0/mpi2-report.htm
> 
> However, please note, that this does not modify MPI_COMM_WORLD. 
> MPI_COMM_WORLD is a static communicator which can not be changed, even 
> in Open MPI...
> 
> Thanks
> Edgar
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Re: [OMPI users] Dynamic COMM_WORLD

2006-07-07 Thread Abhishek Agarwal


Hello,

I have done some work on this using MPICH which is very similar to OpenMPI 
usage.


The i think this is working as soon as you spawn a process it creates a 
intercommunicator and you can comunicate with the corresponding working 
using that intercommunicator. If you want to communicate between two workers 
then you will have to merge all the processes which communicate into one 
intra communicator and pass that particular intracommunicator during 
communication.


I hope this helps
Abhishek
Nortel Gov. Sol.


From: Eric Thibodeau 
Reply-To: Open MPI Users 
To: us...@open-mpi.org
Subject: Re: [OMPI users] Dynamic COMM_WORLD
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 14:49:04 -0400

Yes, I was interested in the example such as:

http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/mpi/mpi-standard/mpi-report-2.0/node98.htm#Node98

The way I see it, there are litteraly two programs, a Manager program and a
Worker program which is started by the manager (the example doesn't show if
multiple workers are started by repeated calls to the spawn command). I
unsderstand that MPI_COMM_WORLD is somewhat static but I am unclear as to 
how

to communicate with future-spawned process... Is there an MPI_COMM_UNIVERSE
that we can drop in place of the MPI_COMM_WORLD? It's also not clear who
would be part of MPI_COMM_PARENT other than the process that spawned the
worker.

Well, I know I have some reading to perform on the whole dynamic/spawning
process, my query was really to know if OpenMPI was up and ready in that
field of MPI2.

Thanks,

Eric


Le vendredi 7 juillet 2006 14:09, Edgar Gabriel a écrit :
> Eric Thibodeau wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Before I embark on a train that will run out of tracks, I wanted to
> > get a WFF concerning the spwaning mechanisme in OpenMPI. The intent
> > is that I would program a "simple" parallel application that would
> > demonstrate the ability of recent MPI implementations (OpenMPI) to
> > dynamically ADD or remove processes from the parallel task pool. Of
> > course, any documentation concerning these new features would also be
> > greatly appreciated ;)
>
> Open MPI supports spawning new processes as defined in the MPI-2
> specification, see e.g.
>
> 
http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/mpi/mpi-standard/mpi-report-2.0/mpi2-report.htm

>
> However, please note, that this does not modify MPI_COMM_WORLD.
> MPI_COMM_WORLD is a static communicator which can not be changed, even
> in Open MPI...
>
> Thanks
> Edgar
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