Re: tftp from home dir running under xinetd
Can you show here the error in the log? Do you have SELinux enabled in enforcing mode? Try to do this: getsetbool -a | grep tftpd to see all boolean related to this service. Regards On 07/04/2011 12:50 AM, Gene Smith wrote: I can manually run a tftp server that allows access to files in a directory under ~ with no problem. But when I try to run the server under xinetd using the /etc/xinetd.d/tftp configuration file a "permission denied" error shows up in /var/log/message with no indication it is selinux related. But if I make selinux permissive for tftpd it then works. Is there a quick way to configure selinux to allow this type of tftp access (just read-only) w/o resorting to a "permissive" setting? Thanks, -gene -- Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda Software Engineer (UCI) http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F15: two keys from keyboard not recognized on Acer TM6465 laptop
On 07/04/2011 03:01 AM, Patrick Lists wrote: > Hi, > > On my Acer TravelMate 6465WLMi laptop I have F15 x86_64 installed and > updated. On the laptop there are two keys that don't do anything: one > with the $ sign and another with the Euro sign (note: these are not the > "4" key which has the "$" above the "4" or the "5"" key which has the > Euro sign at the right of the "5" key). xev does not show anything when > either key is pressed. At the time of F11 or F12 I could fix this by > getting the keycode from xev and using setkeycode. But since xev does > not register a keypress when either key is pressed this is not possible. > Does anyone have an idea how I can make these keys work? Well, if you think that's a bug, report it and fix it like you did in the Fedora 12 release Regards > > Thanks! > Patrick -- Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda Software Engineer (UCI) Linux User # 418229 http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Name resolution
Regards, Eric Are you using a proxy for Internet connection? Because, this kind of issues I've seen on it. 1- I think that you have to check your /etc/resolv.conf which are the entries that you have there. 2- The second advice that I give you is to analyze your network connection (rates, bandwidth, etc). You can use tcpdump - sar(included on the systat package http://pagesperso-orange.fr/sebastien.godard/) for all kind of statistics. For the network stats, you can use sar -n DEV | more - netstat: only focused on the network statistics a example: netstat --statistics --raw - traceroute: this is very useful for tracking down the cause of disappearing packages a example: traceroute host_name 3- You have to check the /etc/nsswitch.conf, which is the main responsible of the name resolution in Solaris and Linux. You will check too the nscd daemon I hope that's can help you On 07/04/2011 09:56 AM, Eric Tanguy wrote: > Since few days now i have a name resolution problem. For example when i > entrer a new address in firefox it returns that the name can't be > resolved. Reloading the page and firefox display fine the page. I have > the same problem from thunderbird or cli using yum. > The network is up using network manager with ethernet and dhcp. The name > server is the box ip. This configuration is the same as other pc on the > same network and these pc don't have any problem so i think the problem > is specific to this f15 machine but i don't how to investigate. > Any help ? > Thanks > Eric > -- Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda Software Engineer (UCI) Linux User # 418229 http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Where will be the next FUDCon ?
Regards and thanks a lot reading I'm very happy with Fedora after 4 years like a normal user and I think it's time to contribute to the project. So, I'm very interested to participate on the next FUDCon. I've seen that the last one in Panamá, was a completed success, so I want to be part of this amazing community. -- Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda Software Engineer (UCI) Linux User # 418229 http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Where will be the next FUDCon ?
Good, thanks a lot, John On 07/04/2011 09:46 PM, inode0 wrote: > On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Marcos Ortiz wrote: >> Regards and thanks a lot reading >> I'm very happy with Fedora after 4 years like a normal user >> and I think it's time to contribute to the project. So, I'm very >> interested to participate on the next FUDCon. >> >> I've seen that the last one in Panamá, was a completed >> success, so I want to be part of this amazing community. > > You can find upcoming FUDCons and FADs here > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Premier_Fedora_Events > > The next FUDCon will be in Milan this fall. > > John -- Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda Software Engineer (UCI) Linux User # 418229 http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora tools for technical analysis of stocks
Well, for stock markets analysis you can R http://r-project.org Regards On 07/05/2011 07:07 AM, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Paul Smith wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> Is there some tool that works on Fedora to do technical analysis of >> stocks in stock markets? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Paul >> -- > > > I think not yet, because the real time data in most cases are paid. > > > > -- Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda Software Engineer (UCI) Linux User # 418229 http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
RPM Packaging Guide -- Last revision
Regards to all the Fedora users I want to improve many of my rpm packages that I want to maintain (some new packages and some old ones), so I want to follow the last revision of the RPM Packaging Guide. Where I can find these resources? Thanks for your time -- Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda Software Engineer (UCI) Linux User # 418229 http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
[OFF-TOPIC] Toyota Joins Linux Foundation
Excellent news from Linux Foundation http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2011/07/toyota-joins-linux-foundation Regards -- Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda Software Engineer (UCI) Linux User # 418229 http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Btrfs development in Fedora 16
Regards to all Where I can find the current development of BtrFS in Fedora? I heard that this filesystem will be the defacto in Fedora 16 Is that true? Thanks for your time. -- Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda Software Engineer (UCI) Linux User # 418229 http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Btrfs development in Fedora 16
Umm, interesting. And How I can help on this development? Any advice? regards El 7/7/2011 8:47 PM, Bruno Wolff III escribió: > On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 20:19:19 -0400, >Marcos Ortiz wrote: >> Regards to all >> Where I can find the current development of BtrFS in Fedora? >> I heard that this filesystem will be the defacto in Fedora 16 >> Is that true? > > This is an accepted feature for F16. Which means if things go according to > plan it will be. But if things don't work out it might stay ext4. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/F16BtrfsDefaultFs -- Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda Software Engineer (UCI) Linux User # 418229 http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Btrfs development in Fedora 16
Good, thanks a lot Fernando. I will download the beta and I will begin to test the new features. Regards El 7/7/2011 10:28 PM, Fernando Cassia escribió: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 22:34, Marcos Ortiz wrote: >> Umm, interesting. >> And How I can help on this development? >> Any advice? > > Download the betas, run them, and if you find any problems, file bugs. > > FC -- Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda Software Engineer (UCI) Linux User # 418229 http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Current state of ext4 development in Fedora
Regard to all the list. Where is the current state of the development of ext4 in Fedora 17? Best wishes -- Marcos Luis Ortíz Valmaseda Sr. Software Engineer (UCI) http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:MarcosLuis Fin a la injusticia, LIBERTAD AHORA A NUESTROS CINCO COMPATRIOTAS QUE SE ENCUENTRAN INJUSTAMENTE EN PRISIONES DE LOS EEUU! http://www.antiterroristas.cu http://justiciaparaloscinco.wordpress.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Current state of ext4 development in Fedora
No, the both mailing list for Brtfs and ext4 (linux-brtfs, linux-ext4 @vger.kernel.org) are very active, so I don´t think that the development will stop. I only ask because I´m very interested on the integration of Fedora 17 with ext4. There are many good points on the discussions on both lists, for example the file compression in ext4 level, online defrag, etc; so, if Fedora always will use the last kernel available, I want to test these features on the distribution. Regards On 03/06/2012 08:56 PM, David Quigley wrote: On 03/06/2012 20:53, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 06 Mar 2012 20:20:16 -0500 Marcos Ortiz wrote: Regard to all the list. Where is the current state of the development of ext4 in Fedora 17? Best wishes Well, since btrfs is now the newest fad, I suspect there will be no new ext4 development at all (but as was mentioned in another reply, ext4 no longer has any grub compatibility problems, with grub2 at least). I'm not sure what you mean by ext4 development but I would be really surprised if the kernel community stopped maintaining ext4 and the utilities for it. BTRFS still needs a fsck that can fix up the filesystem. Until that happens you're still going to be seeing ext4 as the main filesystem. I know there is a feature to move to a BTRFS default install FS but I still haven't heard word about the fsck utility yet. -- Marcos Luis Ortíz Valmaseda Sr. Software Engineer (UCI) http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://postgresql.uci.cu/blog/38 Fin a la injusticia, LIBERTAD AHORA A NUESTROS CINCO COMPATRIOTAS QUE SE ENCUENTRAN INJUSTAMENTE EN PRISIONES DE LOS EEUU! http://www.antiterroristas.cu http://justiciaparaloscinco.wordpress.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problem converting RFC 4716 to OpenSSH key file
We need more information about your system to be able to help you. Fedora version ssh version Regards On 03/07/2012 11:24 AM, Lázaro Morales wrote: Hello, When I try to convert a RFC 4716 key file to OpenSSH (Specifically those generated by PuTTY) I get: # ssh-keygen -i -f dsa-key.pub >> .ssh/authorized_keys dsa-key.pub: Permission denied The files permissions are: -rwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 680 Mar 7 05:59 dsa-public-key.pub -rw---. 1 root root0 Mar 7 06:06 authorized_keys The command is apply as root, so I think that there should not be problem with permissions. What could be then? Thanks in advance, Lázaro -- Marcos Luis Ortíz Valmaseda Sr. Software Engineer (UCI) http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Marcosluis Fin a la injusticia, LIBERTAD AHORA A NUESTROS CINCO COMPATRIOTAS QUE SE ENCUENTRAN INJUSTAMENTE EN PRISIONES DE LOS EEUU! http://www.antiterroristas.cu http://justiciaparaloscinco.wordpress.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: tftp from home dir running under xinetd
We need the /varlog/messages or the /var/log/audit/audit.log to see what happens on the system. CC to selinux list too Try to do this: 1- setenforce 0 to change to "permissive" mode 2- stop tftpd daemon: # service tftpd stop 3- unload any rules that silently deny access # semodule -DB 4- check the time: # date 5- start the tftpd service: # service tftpd start 6- Then, collect all the Access Vector Cache (ACV) denials that occured since you noted the system time. For example # ausearch -m avc -ts 15:00 7- Filter the log and try to generate a policy module using audit2allow: # grep "tftpd" /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M tftpd 8- Check the tftpd.{te,.fc} files, and if you have enough with it, you can install the policy module: # semodule -i tftpd.pp 9- Then, check if the avc denials persists Regards - Mensaje original - De: "Gene Smith" Para: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Enviados: Lunes, 4 de Julio 2011 18:11:51 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlín / Berna / Roma / Estocolmo / Viena Asunto: Re: tftp from home dir running under xinetd Marcos Ortiz wrote, On 07/04/2011 02:02 AM: > Can you show here the error in the log? > Do you have SELinux enabled in enforcing mode? > Try to do this: getsetbool -a | grep tftpd to see all boolean related to > this service. > > Regards $ getsebool -a | grep tftp tftp_anon_write --> off I have set this bool to "on" via the selinux gui and it made no difference. (Also, I am not not trying to write via tftp, just read.) This is the error I see running with in full enforcing mode and it occurs each time the remote host (a bdi2000 jtag emulator) attempts to read its configuration file using tftp from the fedora box. Jul 4 00:36:33 wally xinetd[6013]: START: tftp pid=6706 from=192.168.1.21 Jul 4 00:36:33 wally in.tftpd[6706]: /home/gene/my_dir: Permission denied Jul 4 00:36:33 wally xinetd[6013]: EXIT: tftp status=66 pid=6706 duration=0(sec) When I change just the tftpd process to "permissive" using the selinux gui it fixes the problem. Note: If I put the files read by the emulator in the "standard" location, /var/lib/tftpd, it works OK in full enforcing mode. -gene > > On 07/04/2011 12:50 AM, Gene Smith wrote: >> I can manually run a tftp server that allows access to files in a >> directory under ~ with no problem. But when I try to run the server >> under xinetd using the /etc/xinetd.d/tftp configuration file a >> "permission denied" error shows up in /var/log/message with no >> indication it is selinux related. But if I make selinux permissive for >> tftpd it then works. >> >> Is there a quick way to configure selinux to allow this type of tftp >> access (just read-only) w/o resorting to a "permissive" setting? >> >> Thanks, >> -gene >> > > -- > Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda > Software Engineer (UCI) > http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com > http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186 > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda Software Engineer (Large-Scaled Distributed Systems) http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: tftp from home dir running under xinetd
For that reason, you have to see the avc denials; where you can check which is the process and system calls that are been denied (xinetd or tftpd) Which is the SELinux policy version in your machine? Regards - Mensaje original - De: "Gene Smith" Para: users@lists.fedoraproject.org CC: seli...@lists.fedoraproject.org Enviados: Lunes, 4 de Julio 2011 19:49:37 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlín / Berna / Roma / Estocolmo / Viena Asunto: Re: tftp from home dir running under xinetd Marcos Ortiz Valmaseda wrote, On 07/04/2011 01:44 PM: > We need the /varlog/messages or the /var/log/audit/audit.log to see what > happens on the system. > > CC to selinux list too > > Try to do this: > 1- setenforce 0 to change to "permissive" mode > > 2- stop tftpd daemon: > # service tftpd stop Thanks, I will try all this later when I have more time. However, does it matter that I don't have a running tftpd but only xinetd that activates tftdp on demand? > > 3- unload any rules that silently deny access > # semodule -DB > > 4- check the time: > # date > > 5- start the tftpd service: > # service tftpd start > > 6- Then, collect all the Access Vector Cache (ACV) denials that occured since > you noted the system time. For example > > # ausearch -m avc -ts 15:00 > > 7- Filter the log and try to generate a policy module using audit2allow: > # grep "tftpd" /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M tftpd > > 8- Check the tftpd.{te,.fc} files, and if you have enough with it, you can > install the policy module: > ># semodule -i tftpd.pp > > 9- Then, check if the avc denials persists > > Regards > > > - Mensaje original - > De: "Gene Smith" > Para: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Enviados: Lunes, 4 de Julio 2011 18:11:51 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlín / > Berna / Roma / Estocolmo / Viena > Asunto: Re: tftp from home dir running under xinetd > > Marcos Ortiz wrote, On 07/04/2011 02:02 AM: >> Can you show here the error in the log? >> Do you have SELinux enabled in enforcing mode? >> Try to do this: getsetbool -a | grep tftpd to see all boolean related to >> this service. >> >> Regards > > $ getsebool -a | grep tftp > tftp_anon_write --> off > > I have set this bool to "on" via the selinux gui and it made no > difference. (Also, I am not not trying to write via tftp, just read.) > > This is the error I see running with in full enforcing mode and it > occurs each time the remote host (a bdi2000 jtag emulator) attempts to > read its configuration file using tftp from the fedora box. > > Jul 4 00:36:33 wally xinetd[6013]: START: tftp pid=6706 from=192.168.1.21 > Jul 4 00:36:33 wally in.tftpd[6706]: /home/gene/my_dir: Permission denied > Jul 4 00:36:33 wally xinetd[6013]: EXIT: tftp status=66 pid=6706 > duration=0(sec) > > When I change just the tftpd process to "permissive" using the selinux > gui it fixes the problem. > > Note: If I put the files read by the emulator in the "standard" > location, /var/lib/tftpd, it works OK in full enforcing mode. > > -gene > >> >> On 07/04/2011 12:50 AM, Gene Smith wrote: >>> I can manually run a tftp server that allows access to files in a >>> directory under ~ with no problem. But when I try to run the server >>> under xinetd using the /etc/xinetd.d/tftp configuration file a >>> "permission denied" error shows up in /var/log/message with no >>> indication it is selinux related. But if I make selinux permissive for >>> tftpd it then works. >>> >>> Is there a quick way to configure selinux to allow this type of tftp >>> access (just read-only) w/o resorting to a "permissive" setting? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -gene >>> >> >> -- >> Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda >>Software Engineer (UCI) >>http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com >>http://twitter.com/marcosluis2186 >> > > -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- Marcos Luís Ortíz Valmaseda Software Engineer (Large-Scaled Distributed Systems) http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
About the kernel version 3.2.5 and its next inclusion in Fedora
Regard to all the list. I was reading about the good performance news in this kernel version, and I´m wondering when it will be included in Fedora? Currently, I´m using Fedora 15 because, here in my country, we have not had the possibility to mount a completed mirror of Fedora, so, I´m very interested on the inclusion of the kernel on this version. Best wishes -- Marcos Luis Ortíz Valmaseda Sr. Software Engineer (UCI) http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcosluis2186 Twitter: @marcosluis2186 Fin a la injusticia, LIBERTAD AHORA A NUESTROS CINCO COMPATRIOTAS QUE SE ENCUENTRAN INJUSTAMENTE EN PRISIONES DE LOS EEUU! http://www.antiterroristas.cu http://justiciaparaloscinco.wordpress.com-- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: pdfedit for Fedora 16
On 17/02/12 04:29, nathan wrote: On 02/17/2012 07:38 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 02/16/2012 09:44 PM, Cristian Sava wrote: Hi all, We needed pdfedit for Fedora 16 and is not avaiable anymore. It is present in Fedora<= 15 It was easy to rebuild pdfedit-0.4.5-4.fc16.x86_64.rpm and it works well. So the question: why was it discontinued for Fedora users? It was orphaned by the maintainer and noone else stepped up. Apparently it has bugs and upstream is inactive. Rahul I downloaded pdfedit pdfedit-0.4.5.tar.bz2 and try to build it by make. after ./configure. I was informed ... checking for size_t... yes checking whether struct tm is in sys/time.h or time.h... time.h checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking if zlib is wanted... configure: error: libz not found . I check the zlib with rpm -qa zlib, the system inform that pdfedit-0.4.5.tar.bz2 exists. who tell me why, and how to do? You must have in your system the devel packages for zlib if you want to build the package: $ yum search zlib-devel Regards -- Marcos Luis Ortíz Valmaseda Sr. Software Engineer (UCI) http://marcosluis2186.posterous.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/marcosluis2186 Twitter: @marcosluis2186 Fin a la injusticia, LIBERTAD AHORA A NUESTROS CINCO COMPATRIOTAS QUE SE ENCUENTRAN INJUSTAMENTE EN PRISIONES DE LOS EEUU! http://www.antiterroristas.cu http://justiciaparaloscinco.wordpress.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org