Re: Current Stable Fedora Version?

[Stephen Morris]

On 25/9/23 09:10, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 9/24/23 15:54, Stephen Morris wrote:
 I am currently on F38, but the other day when I was searching 
for how to do something (which I've forgotten what it was) I found 
instructions for F39 and F40. So I'm now curious as to what is the 
current stable version of Fedora?


rpmfusion maybe?
38 is stable, 39 is currently beta, and 40 is rawhide.

Thanks Samuel.

regards,
Steve


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Re: Current Stable Fedora Version?

[Stephen Morris]

On 25/9/23 20:29, George N. White III wrote:
On Sun, Sep 24, 2023 at 7:55 PM Stephen Morris 
 wrote:


Hi,
 I am currently on F38, but the other day when I was searching
for
how to do something (which I've forgotten what it was) I found
instructions for F39 and F40. So I'm now curious as to what is the
current stable version of Fedora?


38.  For 39, see: 
 which

has:

Current Final Target date
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/lifecycle/#_release_dates
Tue 2023-10-17  Tue 2023-10-17  



Thanks George.

regards,
Steve





regards,
Steve

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Re: How do I stop this malware

[stan via users]

On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 12:06:46 -0500 (CDT)
Michael Hennebry  wrote:

> I stumbled onto a very bad website:
> d1ykbfcai6wsme dot cloudfront dot net slash werrx01 slash
> phone=+1 dash 888 dash 387 dash 3976 &# .

> firefox went fullscreen and kept telling me that
> my computer was locked because, without my knowledge,

> The mouse would only show up on the
> always-on-top window of an expired timer.
 
> How is that sort of thing done and
> how do I keep it from happening again?

I think it is done by running javascript through your version of
firefox.  Do you have noscript add-on installed?  That will block any
javascript from a site, and you will have to turn on the urls that you
want to be able to run javascript.  I'm not sure how effective that
would be in this case, since cloudfront.net is often needed because many
sites use it as their host.  But, I expect that the problem url would
show up differently in noscript, and you would be able to leave it
disabled.  Usually, cloudfront.net is disabled automatically for
other urls.  I'm not willing to test that expectation, for obvious
reasons. :-)

You could test whether this is the solution by installing noscript,
shutting down and restarting firefox to clear the cache of allowed
sites (that is a setting in the privacy tab), and then visiting the
site again. The site should be blocked, and you can click on the
noscript icon to see the list of urls that have been blocked from
running javascript.  If you want to experience the thrill again, you
can allow javascript from the above problem address for confirmation.
Then, turn it off, and the recovery is what you have already discovered.
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F38: systemd-resolved.service oddity

[Ranjan Maitra]

Dear friends,

From the past week, I have had an issue in that after several hours, some 
particular sites become inaccessible to me, and can only be accessed if I use 
restart using sudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved.service

What particular  issues cause this? Why did it start a week ago, and has become 
quite reliable in its annoyance? (I have to say that when I can no longer 
access this site, I am no longer on Cisco SecureClient VPN, which is also one 
of the sites which can not be accessed with Cisco SecureClient VPN without 
restarting systemd-resolved.service, and the site is my worksite domain).

Happy to file bug reports, and to test different things. I am on a fully 
updated F38.

Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan
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Re: F38: systemd-resolved.service oddity

[Joe Zeff]

On 09/27/2023 10:14 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

 From the past week, I have had an issue in that after several hours, some 
particular sites become inaccessible to me, and can only be accessed if I use 
restart using sudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved.service


Before any of us can help you, we need a little more information: what 
version of Fedora are you using and how long since you last updated your 
system?

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Re: F38: systemd-resolved.service oddity

[Ranjan Maitra]

Thanks very much! An mentioned in the original post, I am on a fully updated 
F38. I update nightly.

$ uname -a Linux 6.4.15-200.fc38.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Sep  7 
00:25:01 UTC 2023 x86_64 GNU/Linux


Many thanks and best wishes,
Ranjan

On Wed Sep27'23 10:24:00AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> From: Joe Zeff 
> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2023 10:24:00 -0600
> To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users 
> Subject: Re: F38: systemd-resolved.service oddity
>
> On 09/27/2023 10:14 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> >  From the past week, I have had an issue in that after several hours, some 
> > particular sites become inaccessible to me, and can only be accessed if I 
> > use restart using sudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved.service
>
> Before any of us can help you, we need a little more information: what
> version of Fedora are you using and how long since you last updated your
> system?
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can't ping

[Mike Wright]

Hi everybody,

I have no idea how I got in this mess, but I've lost the ability to use 
ping as a regular user.  sudo still works.


Nothing in lsattr, regular perms are 755 no suid.

ping: socktype: SOCK_RAW
ping: socket: Operation not permitted
ping: => missing cap_net_raw+p capability or setuid?

Any help?  Especially ideas on how I managed to do this?

Thanks
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Re: can't ping

[Samuel Sieb]

On 9/27/23 11:46, Mike Wright wrote:
I have no idea how I got in this mess, but I've lost the ability to use 
ping as a regular user.  sudo still works.


Nothing in lsattr, regular perms are 755 no suid.

ping: socktype: SOCK_RAW
ping: socket: Operation not permitted
ping: => missing cap_net_raw+p capability or setuid?


Is there anything in the journal?
What does "ls -lZ /usr/bin/ping" show?
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Re: can't ping

[Doug Herr]

On Wed, Sep 27, 2023, at 11:46 AM, Mike Wright wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I have no idea how I got in this mess, but I've lost the ability to use 
> ping as a regular user.  sudo still works.

What do you get with:
>sysctl net.ipv4.ping_group_range


For me:
>sysctl net.ipv4.ping_group_range
net.ipv4.ping_group_range = 0   2147483647

Not sure if you might sometimes need sudo to show that. My outcome shows that 
the "ping_group" is not restricted.
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Re: can't ping

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 11:46:07AM -0700, Mike Wright wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> I have no idea how I got in this mess, but I've lost the ability to use ping
> as a regular user.  sudo still works.
> 
> Nothing in lsattr, regular perms are 755 no suid.
> 
> ping: socktype: SOCK_RAW
> ping: socket: Operation not permitted
> ping: => missing cap_net_raw+p capability or setuid?
> 
> Any help?  Especially ideas on how I managed to do this?

What fedora version is this?

ping used to use 'capabilities' to give itself the needed permssions to
send things to the network. capabilities are pretty rough grained. ie,
the 'cap_net_raw' lets you do a lot of things with network (more than
ping really needs to work). 

Any currently supported fedora tho should no longer be using
capabilities for ping instead it's using a change to kernel config to
allow ports by ping.

From f31: 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableSysctlPingGroupRange

So, check:

grep ping_group_range /usr/lib/sysctl.d/*.conf 

(which should be: 
/usr/lib/sysctl.d/50-default.conf:-net.ipv4.ping_group_range = 0 2147483647
)

kevin


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Re: can't ping

[Mike Wright]

On 9/27/23 12:12, Doug Herr wrote:

On Wed, Sep 27, 2023, at 11:46 AM, Mike Wright wrote:

Hi everybody,

I have no idea how I got in this mess, but I've lost the ability to use
ping as a regular user.  sudo still works.


What do you get with:

sysctl net.ipv4.ping_group_range



For me:

sysctl net.ipv4.ping_group_range

net.ipv4.ping_group_range = 0   2147483647


Thanks everybody who replied.

OK, I've been doing a lot of network experiments, staying up wy too 
late, and I have no recollection of doing this.  It was set to:


> net.ipv4.ping_group_range = 1  0

Changing as recommended and I'm back in business...
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Re: F38: systemd-resolved.service oddity

[Samuel Sieb]

On 9/27/23 09:14, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

 From the past week, I have had an issue in that after several hours, some 
particular sites become inaccessible to me, and can only be accessed if I use 
restart using sudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved.service

What particular  issues cause this? Why did it start a week ago, and has become 
quite reliable in its annoyance? (I have to say that when I can no longer 
access this site, I am no longer on Cisco SecureClient VPN, which is also one 
of the sites which can not be accessed with Cisco SecureClient VPN without 
restarting systemd-resolved.service, and the site is my worksite domain).


That is probably relevant.  resolved supports split DNS when using a 
VPN.  Try the following commands both while the VPN is running and then 
after you stop it:


resolvectl dns
resolvectl domain
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Re: Thunderbird 115 FC 38

[Adam Mercer via users]

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--- Original Message ---
On Tuesday, September 26th, 2023 at 09:09, Tim via users 
 wrote:


> Well, I might disagree. Your message was extremely scrambled by the
> GPG/PGP process.
> 
> What I see is mostly unhandled MIME coming through raw. Headers in the
> message body, mangled body content, undecoded signature MIME content,
> then two PGP attachments, etc.
> 
> Try again, see if it was just a once off.

The email was sent using the Proton Mail webclient and not Thunderbird, so any 
oddness is not related to Thunderbird.

Cheers

Adam
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Re: Thunderbird 115 FC 38

[Dave Close]

Tim wrote:
> Adam Mercer wrote:
>> I've been using some of the earlier 115.x builds that showed up
>> for F38 witout issue. This morning I built 115.2.2, from the F39
>> source RPM using mock, and so far it's been running without issue...
>
>Well, I might disagree.  Your message was extremely scrambled by the
>GPG/PGP process.
>
>What I see is mostly unhandled MIME coming through raw.  Headers in the
>message body, mangled body content, undecoded signature MIME content,
>then two PGP attachments, etc.

The problem could be your Evolution. Adam's message seemed just fine
when I saw it using exmh.
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Re: Creating a ScreenShot HotKey Script

[Philip Rhoades via users]

wwp,


On 2023-09-17 07:19, wwp wrote:

Hello Philip,


On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 22:12:02 +1000 Philip Rhoades via users
 wrote:

I want to scroll through doc pages in a script loop doing a screenshot 
for each page eg the procedure would be:


1. Display the first page of the doc you want to screenshot.

2. Hit CTRL-PrtScrn (say) to start the script loop.

The script does a screenshot of the current screen.
The Right Arrow or PageDn key is sent from the script to advance 
the doc to the next page.

The script continues to loop . .

3. The script is stopped by CTRL-C (say).

Is this possible?  Should I be trying to do this from Sway?


What file format is your document?



A proprietary one which isn't easily convertible.



Couldn't you "just" export pages to
another (image) format?



No.



IOW, why do you want to make *screenshots*?



To OCR them to text to create multi-page PDFs.

Thanks,

Phil.



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Re: Creating a ScreenShot HotKey Script

[Philip Rhoades via users]

Jonathan,


On 2023-09-17 04:44, Jonathan Billings wrote:

On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:28, stan via users
 wrote:






On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 22:12:02 +1000
Philip Rhoades via users  wrote:


Is this possible?  Should I be trying to do this from Sway?


I don't have an answer for you, but isn't sway a microsoft product?
Maybe it would be better to ask on a microsoft forum?


Sway is a tiling window manager/compositor for Wayland.
https://swaywm.org/

Not sure what you’re talking about, it certainly isn’t a Microsoft
product.  Sway is a Wayland-based compositor that is a replacement for
i3 (a tiling WM for X11).

For what it’s worth, it does appear that there is an automation tool
for wlroot-based compositors (such as sway): wrlctl (
https://git.sr.ht/~brocellous/wlrctl ). It’s not packaged for fedora
yet, though.



Hmm . . interesting - I usually try to stick to RPMs but will build / 
compile stuff if I have to . . I will have a look at wrlctl .


Thanks!

Phil.



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Re: Thunderbird 115 FC 38

[Todd Zullinger]

Dave Close wrote:
> Tim wrote:
>> Adam Mercer wrote:
>>> I've been using some of the earlier 115.x builds that showed up
>>> for F38 witout issue. This morning I built 115.2.2, from the F39
>>> source RPM using mock, and so far it's been running without issue...
>>
>>Well, I might disagree.  Your message was extremely scrambled by the
>>GPG/PGP process.
>>
>>What I see is mostly unhandled MIME coming through raw.  Headers in the
>>message body, mangled body content, undecoded signature MIME content,
>>then two PGP attachments, etc.
> 
> The problem could be your Evolution. Adam's message seemed just fine
> when I saw it using exmh.

The problem is that the message uses inline PGP¹ and it does
not escape the leading --- characters which are part of
the 'Original Message' delimiter.

Mutt reports the following from gpg when trying to process
the message signature:

gpg: unexpected armor: --- Original Message ---\n
gpg: invalid armor header: On Sunday, September 24th, 2023 at 06:36, stan 
via users  wrote:\n

Mutt does display the message properly then.

There is also an attached public key and then that has a
detached signature as well, which seems odd and not likely
to be useful.  I have no idea why Proton Mail would do that,
if it is the mail agent responsible for it.

¹ Technically, the sentence could end there and it would
  still be reasonably accurate. ;)

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Re: Creating a ScreenShot HotKey Script

[Tim via users]

wwp:
>> What file format is your document?


Philip Rhoades:
> A proprietary one which isn't easily convertible.


>> Couldn't you "just" export pages to another (image) format?

> No.


>> IOW, why do you want to make *screenshots*?

> To OCR them to text to create multi-page PDFs.


Stating the obvious, but sometimes it's useful to do so:

Can you "select all" in the document, copy to the clipboard, then paste
into somewhere else?

I've done that many a time to demangle someone's word processor files,
full of masses of overlapping and conflicting formatting.

And sometimes "print to file" is a useful export tool, too.

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Re: Thunderbird 115 FC 38

[Tim via users]

Hi,

Full-quoted reply, for once, but for a special reason...  It was still
mangled this time, I've left the whole thing below so you can see what
I saw between this reply and my signature.  It starts off with an error
message, and the message has character encoding (and/or decoding)
problems (I see a few =20 sequences in my reader).


On Wed, 2023-09-27 at 23:46 +, Adam Mercer via users wrote:
>   Error verifying signature: Output from gpg2:
> Hash: SHA256
> gpg: armor header: 
> --- Original Message ---\r\n
> gpg: unexpected armor: 
> On Tuesday, September 26th, 2023 at 09:09, Tim via users 
>  wrote:\r\n
> gpg: invalid armor header:
> Content-Type: application/x-inlinepgp-signed; charset="utf-8"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA256
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Original Message ---
> On Tuesday, September 26th, 2023 at 09:09, Tim via users  aproject.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Well, I might disagree. Your message was extremely scrambled by the
> > GPG/PGP process.
> >=20
> > What I see is mostly unhandled MIME coming through raw. Headers in the
> > message body, mangled body content, undecoded signature MIME content,
> > then two PGP attachments, etc.
> >=20
> > Try again, see if it was just a once off.
> 
> The email was sent using the Proton Mail webclient and not Thunderbird, so =
> any oddness is not related to Thunderbird.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Adam
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> Version: ProtonMail
> 
> wsBzBAEBCAAnBYJlFL6cCZD5kM/Cme5XlxYhBPznB3C+XnNkqprIuPmQz8KZ
> 7leXAADe6wf+OITVtDgsul//MHn5Mm+Fl3sH+8qd+lARlTin5M2Awg/2gFPm
> MQ26il5zVSPT8FSO9b8ov+9wPxEMhDieZONjVeGDcn/wOn9Mf5jv/QRPF2i9
> S8yQDPUWEwfwNQuwiada1ZLgdxQkynfuIHOAQeJw9KmskcyIZoBltKA5qNST
> ZaFOae7t2K/qBqoq3BdGuzfZjTt6rV53bDLCiTFOwaJ/n1aprXI7nwUiHYm/
> 76R/JSAiniZjsF94AkNpEeT0KOxK8NFrB1ES/6buAIKxnm7iA1DFs1txdov5
> kDg95vvDwqa6bt+WuCwElOmAGp9eg2xa+oZ2ONXk1iKie9V5SNbejw=3D=3D
> =3Dgjbk
> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Re: Thunderbird 115 FC 38

[Tim via users]

On Wed, 2023-09-27 at 17:36 -0700, Dave Close wrote:
> The problem could be your Evolution. Adam's message seemed just fine
> when I saw it using exmh.

It was mangled on two different versions of Evolution on two different
Linux distros.  It could still be an Evolution problem, but it could
also be an authoring problem.  Or maybe just a compatibility issue
(such as a valid technique that's not widely-enough supported).
 
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Re: Thunderbird 115 FC 38

[Gordon Messmer]

On 2023-09-23 10:45, steven stern wrote:
I see that Thunderbird 115.2 is in koji, but it looks like it has not 
been build for Fedora 38. Is that coming?


https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=39
https://i.imgur.com/bKEMxjt.png 



I would probably ask that question in this BZ: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2240134


FESCo approved an exception to the stable update policy: 
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3050


And the f38 branch in git has been updated: 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/thunderbird/tree/f38


As far as I can tell, Mozilla has stopped publishing security updates 
for the 102 series, so I don't think there's any grounds to object to 
updating to 115 at this point: 
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/releases/

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