Re: More fun with SSL certificates

2023-05-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-05-02 at 14:31 +0200, Peter Boy wrote:
> 
> 
> > Am 02.05.2023 um 12:23 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan
> > :
> > 
> > # httpd  -S
> > VirtualHost configuration:
> > *:80   bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree.conf:1)
> > *:443  is a NameVirtualHost
> >    default server bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-le-
> > ssl.conf:2)
> >    port 443 namevhost bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-le-
> > ssl.conf:2)
> >    port 443 namevhost bree.org.uk
> > (/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56)
> > ServerRoot: "/etc/httpd"
> > Main DocumentRoot: "/var/www/html“
> 
> We often encounter issues with a configuration as you have.
> 
> The problem is:
> Your bree.org.uk address acts as a default server following apache’s
> naming convention (it is the first file sorting the file names
> alphabetically). At the same time a default vname server is
> configured in the default ssl configuration file
> (/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56). We often encounter problems in such
> a situation, when 2 configurations are effective at the same time. 
> 
> You may try either of the following
> 
> (a) define another named host with comes first in the alphabetical
> order, e.g. adefault.conf You may configure it minimally so it shows
> the default Fedora welcome page. It will only get used, if someone
> addresses your server by IP.
> 
> (b) comment out the default server at /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56
> You may comment out all the lines between 
> and  provided you fully configure ssl in
> /etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-le-ssl.conf, i.e. include all the
> configuration option you find between both former directives of your
> own, probably customised, way. Or you may just comment out those
>  directives leaving the remaining directives as
> defaults. But this way sometimes results in conflict between the
> different certificate locations. The details of this conflict are not
> fully known yet.
> 
> Anyway, it would be helpful for us it you try it and give feedback
> about the results. 
> 
> Another possible issue is that port 80 is defined as 'main server'
> only, and port 443 has defined named server only. A more clean
> configuration is to define a port 80 server as a named server for
> bree.org.uk as well, that just redirects to port 443.

I've attempted to implement suggestion (a) but without success. Clearly
there's something I'm not understanding. I copied the standard
/etc/httpd/conf.d/welcome.conf to [...]/aaa-default.conf and edited it
to include the line:

ServerName default.bree.org.uk

but still got the same error after restarting Apache. Changing that to
'bree.org.uk' had the same result. Perhaps you could explain in a
little more detail.

I also tried suggestion (b) by commenting out the  lines,
but again it made no difference.

(I should note that I'm reluctant to edit the standard httpd.conf
itself unless there's no alternative. Currently it's exactly as
installed. I'm aware that it would be replaced on any update.)

poc
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Re: More fun with SSL certificates

2023-05-03 Thread Peter Boy


> Am 03.05.2023 um 12:05 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan :
> 
> On Tue, 2023-05-02 at 14:31 +0200, Peter Boy wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 02.05.2023 um 12:23 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan
>>> :
>>> 
>>> # httpd  -S
>>> VirtualHost configuration:
>>> *:80   bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree.conf:1)
>>> *:443  is a NameVirtualHost
>>>default server bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-le-
>>> ssl.conf:2)
>>>port 443 namevhost bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-le-
>>> ssl.conf:2)
>>>port 443 namevhost bree.org.uk
>>> (/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56)
>>> ServerRoot: "/etc/httpd"
>>> Main DocumentRoot: "/var/www/html“
>> 
>> We often encounter issues with a configuration as you have.
>> 
>> The problem is:
>> Your bree.org.uk address acts as a default server following apache’s
>> naming convention (it is the first file sorting the file names
>> alphabetically). At the same time a default vname server is
>> configured in the default ssl configuration file
>> (/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56). We often encounter problems in such
>> a situation, when 2 configurations are effective at the same time. 
>> 
>> You may try either of the following
>> 
>> (a) define another named host with comes first in the alphabetical
>> order, e.g. adefault.conf You may configure it minimally so it shows
>> the default Fedora welcome page. It will only get used, if someone
>> addresses your server by IP.
>> 
>> (b) comment out the default server at /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56
>> You may comment out all the lines between 
>> and  provided you fully configure ssl in
>> /etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-le-ssl.conf, i.e. include all the
>> configuration option you find between both former directives of your
>> own, probably customised, way. Or you may just comment out those
>>  directives leaving the remaining directives as
>> defaults. But this way sometimes results in conflict between the
>> different certificate locations. The details of this conflict are not
>> fully known yet.
>> 
>> Anyway, it would be helpful for us it you try it and give feedback
>> about the results. 
>> 
>> Another possible issue is that port 80 is defined as 'main server'
>> only, and port 443 has defined named server only. A more clean
>> configuration is to define a port 80 server as a named server for
>> bree.org.uk as well, that just redirects to port 443.
> 
> I've attempted to implement suggestion (a) but without success. Clearly
> there's something I'm not understanding. I copied the standard
> /etc/httpd/conf.d/welcome.conf to [...]/aaa-default.conf and edited it
> to include the line:
> 
> ServerName default.bree.org.uk
> 
> but still got the same error after restarting Apache. Changing that to
> 'bree.org.uk' had the same result. Perhaps you could explain in a
> little more detail.

Sorry, yes, I probably should have provided more details. Please, wait about 
2-3 hours and I’ll publish a complete guide at 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/

I’ll post the exact URL here when I’ve it published.


> 
> I also tried suggestion (b) by commenting out the  lines,
> but again it made no difference.
> 
> (I should note that I'm reluctant to edit the standard httpd.conf
> itself unless there's no alternative. Currently it's exactly as
> installed. I'm aware that it would be replaced on any update.)


That’s a very good strategy! We know about that bug for some time but never 
managed to describe it in detail and to file a bug. We’ll do it now so it 
hopefully gets fixed soon.









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Re: More fun with SSL certificates

2023-05-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-05-03 at 13:31 +0200, Peter Boy wrote:
> 
> 
> > Am 03.05.2023 um 12:05 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan
> > :
> > 
> > On Tue, 2023-05-02 at 14:31 +0200, Peter Boy wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Am 02.05.2023 um 12:23 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan
> > > > :
> > > > 
> > > > # httpd  -S
> > > > VirtualHost configuration:
> > > > *:80   bree.org.uk
> > > > (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree.conf:1)
> > > > *:443  is a NameVirtualHost
> > > >    default server bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-le-
> > > > ssl.conf:2)
> > > >    port 443 namevhost bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-
> > > > le-
> > > > ssl.conf:2)
> > > >    port 443 namevhost bree.org.uk
> > > > (/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56)
> > > > ServerRoot: "/etc/httpd"
> > > > Main DocumentRoot: "/var/www/html“
> > > 
> > > We often encounter issues with a configuration as you have.
> > > 
> > > The problem is:
> > > Your bree.org.uk address acts as a default server following
> > > apache’s
> > > naming convention (it is the first file sorting the file names
> > > alphabetically). At the same time a default vname server is
> > > configured in the default ssl configuration file
> > > (/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56). We often encounter problems in
> > > such
> > > a situation, when 2 configurations are effective at the same
> > > time. 
> > > 
> > > You may try either of the following
> > > 
> > > (a) define another named host with comes first in the
> > > alphabetical
> > > order, e.g. adefault.conf You may configure it minimally so it
> > > shows
> > > the default Fedora welcome page. It will only get used, if
> > > someone
> > > addresses your server by IP.
> > > 
> > > (b) comment out the default server at
> > > /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56
> > > You may comment out all the lines between  > > _default_:443>
> > > and  provided you fully configure ssl in
> > > /etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-le-ssl.conf, i.e. include all the
> > > configuration option you find between both former directives of
> > > your
> > > own, probably customised, way. Or you may just comment out those
> > >  directives leaving the remaining directives as
> > > defaults. But this way sometimes results in conflict between the
> > > different certificate locations. The details of this conflict are
> > > not
> > > fully known yet.
> > > 
> > > Anyway, it would be helpful for us it you try it and give
> > > feedback
> > > about the results. 
> > > 
> > > Another possible issue is that port 80 is defined as 'main
> > > server'
> > > only, and port 443 has defined named server only. A more clean
> > > configuration is to define a port 80 server as a named server for
> > > bree.org.uk as well, that just redirects to port 443.
> > 
> > I've attempted to implement suggestion (a) but without success.
> > Clearly
> > there's something I'm not understanding. I copied the standard
> > /etc/httpd/conf.d/welcome.conf to [...]/aaa-default.conf and edited
> > it
> > to include the line:
> > 
> > ServerName default.bree.org.uk
> > 
> > but still got the same error after restarting Apache. Changing that
> > to
> > 'bree.org.uk' had the same result. Perhaps you could explain in a
> > little more detail.
> 
> Sorry, yes, I probably should have provided more details. Please,
> wait about 2-3 hours and I’ll publish a complete guide at
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/
> 
> I’ll post the exact URL here when I’ve it published.
> 

Thanks. I look forward to it.

> > 
> > I also tried suggestion (b) by commenting out the 
> > lines,
> > but again it made no difference.
> > 
> > (I should note that I'm reluctant to edit the standard httpd.conf
> > itself unless there's no alternative. Currently it's exactly as
> > installed. I'm aware that it would be replaced on any update.)
> 
> 
> That’s a very good strategy! We know about that bug for some time but
> never managed to describe it in detail and to file a bug. We’ll do it
> now so it hopefully gets fixed soon.

Thanks again.

poc
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[Solved, partially] Re: Post F38 upgrade/fresh install: printing text files via paps (a Postscript converter) prints raw postscript

2023-05-03 Thread Max Pyziur

On Tue, 2 May 2023, stan via users wrote:


On Tue, 2 May 2023 11:52:47 -0400
Todd Zullinger  wrote:


stan via users wrote:

But, why is this a bug?  Stable versions are often at
lower release versions for rpms than newer versions.


The bug is that 0.8.0 includes a fix which 0.7.9 lacks.
That context was only in the github link which Max posted.
Until I read that, I had the same reaction. :)


Caught!  I didn't visit the link.  :-)


Until the fixed version is approved and pushed out, one way to continue 
using paps is to downgrade to the F37 version located 
here:

https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/37/Everything/x86_64/os/Packages/p/paps-0.7.1-5.fc37.x86_64.rpm

fyi,

MP
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Re: More space needed on the / filesystem to upgrade from F37 to F38

2023-05-03 Thread Roberto Ragusa

On 5/2/23 20:56, Jeffrey Walton wrote:

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 4:13 AM Roberto Ragusa  wrote:

[...]
My personal system was installed with FC3 in 2005 and then continuously
upgraded up to currently FC36.
(it has even got metamorphosis from i686 to x86_64, something that was 
considered
impossible to do)


That's impressive.


Not the same hardware, of course.
I am calling "system" the filesystem content, so all the functionality and 
settings.
Hardware has changed a lot of times since then, of course.

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How to get system info

2023-05-03 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
I get the system info shown at the bottom of this message by running
   kinfocenter -> Copy to Clipboard
Is there some way to get this info from the console, for machines
running remotely, typically connected via ssh? I am tired of running to
a remote machine to run kinfocenter on it.

System Info:
   Operating System: Fedora Linux 37
   KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.4
   KDE Frameworks Version: 5.105.0
   Qt Version: 5.15.9
   Kernel Version: 6.2.13-200.fc37.x86_64 (64-bit)
   Graphics Platform: X11
   Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz
   Memory: 15.5 GiB of RAM
   Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® HD Graphics 4600
   Manufacturer: ASUS
   Product Name: All Series
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 someday it will have to be maintained.
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Re: More fun with SSL certificates

2023-05-03 Thread Peter Boy


> Am 03.05.2023 um 13:37 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan :
> 
> On Wed, 2023-05-03 at 13:31 +0200, Peter Boy wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 03.05.2023 um 12:05 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan
>>> :
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 2023-05-02 at 14:31 +0200, Peter Boy wrote:
 
 
> Am 02.05.2023 um 12:23 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan
> :
> 
> # httpd  -S
> VirtualHost configuration:
> *:80   bree.org.uk
> (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree.conf:1)
> *:443  is a NameVirtualHost
>default server bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-le-
> ssl.conf:2)
>port 443 namevhost bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-
> le-
> ssl.conf:2)
>port 443 namevhost bree.org.uk
> (/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56)
> ServerRoot: "/etc/httpd"
> Main DocumentRoot: "/var/www/html“
 
 We often encounter issues with a configuration as you have.
 
 The problem is:
 Your bree.org.uk address acts as a default server following
 apache’s
 naming convention (it is the first file sorting the file names
 alphabetically). At the same time a default vname server is
 configured in the default ssl configuration file
 (/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56). We often encounter problems in
 such
 a situation, when 2 configurations are effective at the same
 time. 
 
 You may try either of the following
 
 (a) define another named host with comes first in the
 alphabetical
 order, e.g. adefault.conf You may configure it minimally so it
 shows
 the default Fedora welcome page. It will only get used, if
 someone
 addresses your server by IP.
 
 (b) comment out the default server at
 /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56
 You may comment out all the lines between >>> _default_:443>
 and  provided you fully configure ssl in
 /etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-le-ssl.conf, i.e. include all the
 configuration option you find between both former directives of
 your
 own, probably customised, way. Or you may just comment out those
  directives leaving the remaining directives as
 defaults. But this way sometimes results in conflict between the
 different certificate locations. The details of this conflict are
 not
 fully known yet.
 
 Anyway, it would be helpful for us it you try it and give
 feedback
 about the results. 
 
 Another possible issue is that port 80 is defined as 'main
 server'
 only, and port 443 has defined named server only. A more clean
 configuration is to define a port 80 server as a named server for
 bree.org.uk as well, that just redirects to port 443.
>>> 
>>> I've attempted to implement suggestion (a) but without success.
>>> Clearly
>>> there's something I'm not understanding. I copied the standard
>>> /etc/httpd/conf.d/welcome.conf to [...]/aaa-default.conf and edited
>>> it
>>> to include the line:
>>> 
>>> ServerName default.bree.org.uk
>>> 
>>> but still got the same error after restarting Apache. Changing that
>>> to
>>> 'bree.org.uk' had the same result. Perhaps you could explain in a
>>> little more detail.
>> 
>> Sorry, yes, I probably should have provided more details. Please,
>> wait about 2-3 hours and I’ll publish a complete guide at
>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/
>> 
>> I’ll post the exact URL here when I’ve it published.
>> 
> 
> Thanks. I look forward to it.
> 
>>> 
>>> I also tried suggestion (b) by commenting out the 
>>> lines,
>>> but again it made no difference.
>>> 
>>> (I should note that I'm reluctant to edit the standard httpd.conf
>>> itself unless there's no alternative. Currently it's exactly as
>>> installed. I'm aware that it would be replaced on any update.)
>> 
>> 
>> That’s a very good strategy! We know about that bug for some time but
>> never managed to describe it in detail and to file a bug. We’ll do it
>> now so it hopefully gets fixed soon.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 

The description is now at
https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/services/httpd-basic-setup/
 
at the bottom, Troubleshooting

Unfortunately, I had various issues with my test equipment and couldn’t test 
the steps so far. The next hours I’ve various Fedora team meetings. So I’ll 
continue later and tomorrow. 

If you stay with you name your configuration file bre-org-uk.conf you must use 
aaadefault.con (instead of vhost-aaadefault.conf as in the Fedora server docs.



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Re: How to get system info

2023-05-03 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 1:08 PM Jonathan Ryshpan  wrote:

> I get the system info shown at the bottom of this message by running
> kinfocenter -> Copy to Clipboard
> Is there some way to get this info from the console, for machines running
> remotely, typically connected via ssh? I am tired of running to a remote
> machine to run kinfocenter on it.
>
> System Info:
> Operating System: Fedora Linux 37
> KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.4
> KDE Frameworks Version: 5.105.0
> Qt Version: 5.15.9
> Kernel Version: 6.2.13-200.fc37.x86_64 (64-bit)
> Graphics Platform: X11
> Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz
> Memory: 15.5 GiB of RAM
> Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® HD Graphics 4600
> Manufacturer: ASUS
> Product Name: All Series
>


% neofetch --off --color_blocks off
@

OS: Fedora release 38 (Thirty Eight) x86_64
Host: iMac14,2 1.0
Kernel: 6.2.14-300.fc38.x86_64
Uptime: 1 hour, 40 mins
Packages: 3427 (rpm), 6 (flatpak)
Shell: zsh 5.9
Resolution: 2560x1440
WM: Mutter
WM Theme: Adwaita
Theme: Adwaita [GTK2/3]
Icons: Adwaita [GTK2/3]
Terminal: /dev/pts/2
CPU: Intel i5-4570 (4) @ 3.600GHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT 755M Mac Edition
Memory: 1235MiB / 7868Mi

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Re: Converting ext4 to btrfs

2023-05-03 Thread Paul Smith
Thanks, Alex, for your reply. It seems that the safest path is to go
for a fresh install of Fedora.

Paul

On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 11:07 AM Alex Gurenko via users
 wrote:
>
> I've forgot to add, that for compression, this, again, works only for newly 
> created/accesses files only, so after adding compression to fstab (and 
> reboot), you might want to run a defragmentation `sudo btrfs filesystem 
> defragment -r `.
>
> There was a recent article about that too: 
> https://fedoramagazine.org/working-with-btrfs-compression/
>
> ---
> Best regards, Alex
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
> On Tuesday, May 2nd, 2023 at 12:04, Alex Gurenko  
> wrote:
>
>
> > There was an article back in the days of btrfs introduction that described 
> > the process: https://fedoramagazine.org/convert-your-filesystem-to-btrfs/
> >
> > I've used it myself without any issues back then, I would assume it's still 
> > safe to do so now.
> >
> > I ran it like this for a few more releases without issues, until I decided 
> > to re-install fresh.
> >
> > The only downside would probably be (please keep me honest here), the 
> > defaults might not apply.
> >
> > There are few things that are done on a fresh install, which will probably 
> > won't apply on a converted system:
> >
> > - COW (copy-on-write) disabled for /var/lib/libvirt/images
> > - probably on other directories?
> > - can be done manually with `chattr -R +C ` but it only works for new 
> > files in said path, so you might need to move things out and back in
> >
> > - enable compression by making sure fstab includes `,compress=zstd:1`
> > - based on your position on async discard [0], you might want to add 
> > `nodiscard` to fstab as well, but it seems to be okay with latest fixes 
> > kernels 6.2.13+ or 6.3.0, at least on a desktop
> >
> > [0] 
> > https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/btrfs-discard-storm-on-fedora/79997/28
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> > ---
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Re: More fun with SSL certificates

2023-05-03 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 12:50 PM Peter Boy  wrote:
> [...]
> The description is now at
> https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/services/httpd-basic-setup/
> at the bottom, Troubleshooting
>
> Unfortunately, I had various issues with my test equipment and couldn’t test 
> the steps so far. The next hours I’ve various Fedora team meetings. So I’ll 
> continue later and tomorrow.
>
> If you stay with you name your configuration file bre-org-uk.conf you must 
> use aaadefault.con (instead of vhost-aaadefault.conf as in the Fedora server 
> docs.

Re, the info about a fake server:

As a workaround, configure a fake server that is never used but is
just a decoy for httpd to associate with the default server
configured in /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf...

ServerName  neverused.org

IANA reserves example.com for this sort of thing. I strongly encourage
you to use the reserved name.

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Re: More fun with SSL certificates

2023-05-03 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 12:50 PM Peter Boy  wrote:
> [...]
> The description is now at
> https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/services/httpd-basic-setup/
> at the bottom, Troubleshooting
>
> Unfortunately, I had various issues with my test equipment and couldn’t test 
> the steps so far. The next hours I’ve various Fedora team meetings. So I’ll 
> continue later and tomorrow.
>
> If you stay with you name your configuration file bre-org-uk.conf you must 
> use aaadefault.con (instead of vhost-aaadefault.conf as in the Fedora server 
> docs.

If OCSP stapling is going to be used, then you should also enable
mod_socache_shmcb:

  a2enmod ssl
  a2enmod socache_shmcb
  a2enmod rewrite

and add the following to ssl.conf:

# OCSP Stapling
SSLUseStapling On
SSLStaplingCache shmcb:${APACHE_RUN_DIR}/ssl_stapling(8192)

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Re: More fun with SSL certificates

2023-05-03 Thread Todd Zullinger
Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> If OCSP stapling is going to be used, then you should also enable
> mod_socache_shmcb:
> 
>   a2enmod ssl
>   a2enmod socache_shmcb
>   a2enmod rewrite

a2enmod is a Debian thing, FWIW.

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Re: More fun with SSL certificates

2023-05-03 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jeffrey Walton  said:
> Re, the info about a fake server:
> 
> As a workaround, configure a fake server that is never used but is
> just a decoy for httpd to associate with the default server
> configured in /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf...
> 
> ServerName  neverused.org
> 
> IANA reserves example.com for this sort of thing. I strongly encourage
> you to use the reserved name.

example.com is not supposed to go in real systems, it's more for
documentation and such.

I'm not very familiar with Apache anymore, as I rarely touch have to
touch it, but with nginx, I do this on Internet-accessible servers:

server {
server_name "";
listen 80 default_server;
listen [::]:80 default_server;
return 404;
}
server {
server_name "" _;
listen 443 ssl http2 default_server;
listen [::]:443 ssl http2 default_server;
ssl_reject_handshake on;
return 404;
}

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Re: More fun with SSL certificates

2023-05-03 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 2:25 PM Chris Adams  wrote:
>
> Once upon a time, Jeffrey Walton  said:
> > Re, the info about a fake server:
> >
> > As a workaround, configure a fake server that is never used but is
> > just a decoy for httpd to associate with the default server
> > configured in /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf...
> >
> > ServerName  neverused.org
> >
> > IANA reserves example.com for this sort of thing. I strongly encourage
> > you to use the reserved name.
>
> example.com is not supposed to go in real systems, it's more for
> documentation and such.
>
> I'm not very familiar with Apache anymore, as I rarely touch have to
> touch it, but with nginx, I do this on Internet-accessible servers:
>
> server {
> server_name "";
> listen 80 default_server;
> listen [::]:80 default_server;
> return 404;
> }
> server {
> server_name "" _;
> listen 443 ssl http2 default_server;
> listen [::]:443 ssl http2 default_server;
> ssl_reject_handshake on;
> return 404;
> }

Would Apache accept example.local or example.localdomain with the
appropriate hosts change? This Q&A seems to indicate it is allowed.[1]
It also seems like it does not run afoul of Apache's ServerName
docs.[2]

My big concern is using a real domain name, like neverused.org. I
don't believe IANA has reserved it. I know example.com is reserved.[3]
The worst case for example.com is, something breaks locally on his
machine.

[1] https://stackoverflow.com/a/12980008
[2] https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/core.html#servername
[3] https://www.iana.org/domains/reserved

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Re: More fun with SSL certificates

2023-05-03 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2023-05-03 at 14:50 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> Would Apache accept example.local or example.localdomain with the
> appropriate hosts change?

I've never had Apache fail with any hostname as long as it resolves
locally.  And, yes, my tests make use of names that won't conflict with
real world names.
 
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Re: How to get system info

2023-05-03 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2023-05-03 at 13:50 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> Is there some way to get this info from the console, for machines
> running remotely, typically connected via ssh? I am tired of running
> to a remote machine to run kinfocenter on it.
...
> % neofetch --off --color_blocks off @


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Re: More fun with SSL certificates

2023-05-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-05-03 at 13:57 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Wed, May 3, 2023 at 12:50 PM Peter Boy  wrote:
> > [...]
> > The description is now at
> > https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/services/httpd-basic-setup/
> > at the bottom, Troubleshooting
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I had various issues with my test equipment and
> > couldn’t test the steps so far. The next hours I’ve various Fedora
> > team meetings. So I’ll continue later and tomorrow.
> > 
> > If you stay with you name your configuration file bre-org-uk.conf
> > you must use aaadefault.con (instead of vhost-aaadefault.conf as in
> > the Fedora server docs.
> 
> If OCSP stapling is going to be used, then you should also enable
> mod_socache_shmcb:
> 
>   a2enmod ssl
>   a2enmod socache_shmcb
>   a2enmod rewrite
> 
> and add the following to ssl.conf:
> 
>     # OCSP Stapling
>     SSLUseStapling On
>     SSLStaplingCache shmcb:${APACHE_RUN_DIR}/ssl_stapling(8192)
> 

I had to look up what OCSP stapling is, but it doesn't seem to be
something I'll need.

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Re: More fun with SSL certificates

2023-05-03 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2023-05-03 at 18:49 +0200, Peter Boy wrote:
> The description is now at
> https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/services/httpd-basic-setup/
>  
> at the bottom, Troubleshooting
> 
> Unfortunately, I had various issues with my test equipment and
> couldn’t test the steps so far. The next hours I’ve various Fedora
> team meetings. So I’ll continue later and tomorrow. 
> 
> If you stay with you name your configuration file bre-org-uk.conf you
> must use aaadefault.con (instead of vhost-aaadefault.conf as in the
> Fedora server docs.
> 

I did that (copied the config from the web page into aaa-default.conf)
and I still get the exact same error (both as is and with example.com).

poc
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Re: F38: GNOME on XORG: Some apps have Windows title bar with Minimize/Maximize Buttons and "lower" function does not work

2023-05-03 Thread Dario Lesca
See also:

In GNOME 44, window top bar doesn't work properly under Xorg
https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/12ubuya/in_gnome_44_window_top_bar_doesnt_work_properly
Dario

Il giorno dom, 30/04/2023 alle 10.28 +0200, Dario Lesca ha scritto:
> I have fill this bug:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2192180
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Re: More fun with SSL certificates

2023-05-03 Thread Mike Wright

On 5/2/23 05:31, Peter Boy wrote:




Am 02.05.2023 um 12:23 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan :

# httpd  -S
VirtualHost configuration:
*:80   bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree.conf:1)
*:443  is a NameVirtualHost
default server bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-le-ssl.conf:2)
port 443 namevhost bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/bree-le-ssl.conf:2)
port 443 namevhost bree.org.uk (/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56)
ServerRoot: "/etc/httpd"
Main DocumentRoot: "/var/www/html“


We often encounter issues with a configuration as you have.

The problem is:
Your bree.org.uk address acts as a default server following apache’s naming 
convention (it is the first file sorting the file names alphabetically). At the 
same time a default vname server is configured in the default ssl configuration 
file (/etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf:56). We often encounter problems in such a 
situation, when 2 configurations are effective at the same time.

You may try either of the following

(a) define another named host with comes first in the alphabetical order...


Thank you Peter Boy.

After only 29 years I finally understand why there is an apache vhost 
defined by 000-default.conf.

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Re: More fun with SSL certificates

2023-05-03 Thread Peter Boy


> Am 03.05.2023 um 23:56 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan :
> 
> On Wed, 2023-05-03 at 18:49 +0200, Peter Boy wrote:
>> The description is now at
>> https://docs.stg.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-server/services/httpd-basic-setup/
>>  
>> at the bottom, Troubleshooting
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I had various issues with my test equipment and
>> couldn’t test the steps so far. The next hours I’ve various Fedora
>> team meetings. So I’ll continue later and tomorrow. 
>> 
>> If you stay with you name your configuration file bre-org-uk.conf you
>> must use aaadefault.con (instead of vhost-aaadefault.conf as in the
>> Fedora server docs.
>> 
> 
> I did that (copied the config from the web page into aaa-default.conf)
> and I still get the exact same error (both as is and with example.com).

I just now finished the various Fedora meetings and it is midnight in Europe. I 
will continue tomorrow at noon, complete and test. Sorry, my test equipment was 
a mess. 




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Thunderbird black at first launch with F38

2023-05-03 Thread Frederic Muller

Hi!

Installed F38 about a week ago from scratch (wayland & GNOME). When I 
launch Thunderbird the first time at every session it starts as a black 
screen except for the title bar and then... I believe nothing happens 
but since I cannot see anything I close it. When I relaunch it 
everything works normally.


Not really a life threatening situation but I was wondering if it was 
possible to fix this. Any idea?


Thank you.

Fred
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Re: Thunderbird black at first launch with F38

2023-05-03 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/3/23 21:07, Frederic Muller wrote:
Installed F38 about a week ago from scratch (wayland & GNOME). When I 
launch Thunderbird the first time at every session it starts as a black 
screen except for the title bar and then... I believe nothing happens 
but since I cannot see anything I close it. When I relaunch it 
everything works normally.


Not really a life threatening situation but I was wondering if it was 
possible to fix this. Any idea?


Are you running "Thunderbird" or "Thunderbird on Wayland"?
If you don't have the second one, try installing it.
"thunderbird-wayland" is the package.
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[solved] Re: Thunderbird black at first launch with F38

2023-05-03 Thread Frederic Muller

On 04/05/2023 12:48, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/3/23 21:07, Frederic Muller wrote:
Installed F38 about a week ago from scratch (wayland & GNOME). When I 
launch Thunderbird the first time at every session it starts as a 
black screen except for the title bar and then... I believe nothing 
happens but since I cannot see anything I close it. When I relaunch 
it everything works normally.


Not really a life threatening situation but I was wondering if it was 
possible to fix this. Any idea?


Are you running "Thunderbird" or "Thunderbird on Wayland"?
If you don't have the second one, try installing it.
"thunderbird-wayland" is the package.
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Yes! That was exactly the problem. Thank you so much.

Fred
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