Re: where to submit a bug against "xv"?

2023-03-17 Thread stan via users
On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 17:48:23 -0700
Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 3/15/23 09:49, home user wrote:

> > You're probably correct, but I hope you're wrong!  I've been using
> > xv for decades, and I like it.  It does what I want, and it's easy.
> >  
> 
> You might want to check out the "display" command from ImageMagick or 
> "gm display" from GraphicsMagick.

Another possibility is qiv.  I'm not sure if I've used it on webp, but
I haven't had any failure to display an image.
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Re: where to submit a bug against "xv"?

2023-03-17 Thread Mike Wright

On 3/17/23 08:22, stan via users wrote:

On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 17:48:23 -0700
Samuel Sieb  wrote:


On 3/15/23 09:49, home user wrote:



You're probably correct, but I hope you're wrong!  I've been using
xv for decades, and I like it.  It does what I want, and it's easy.
  


You might want to check out the "display" command from ImageMagick or
"gm display" from GraphicsMagick.


Another possibility is qiv.  I'm not sure if I've used it on webp, but
I haven't had any failure to display an image.


Just checked qiv out.  No webp support (yet?)

Supported extensions:

jpg .jpeg .jpe .gif .tif .tiff .xpm .png .pjpeg .ppm .pnm .pgm .pbm .pcx 
.bmp .eim .ico .wmf .svg

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Re: where to submit a bug against "xv"?

2023-03-17 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 08:48:05 -0700
Mike Wright  wrote:

> On 3/17/23 08:22, stan via users wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 17:48:23 -0700
> > Samuel Sieb  wrote:
> >   
> >> On 3/15/23 09:49, home user wrote:  
> >   
> >>> You're probably correct, but I hope you're wrong!  I've been using
> >>> xv for decades, and I like it.  It does what I want, and it's
> >>> easy. 
> >>
> >> You might want to check out the "display" command from ImageMagick
> >> or "gm display" from GraphicsMagick.  
> > 
> > Another possibility is qiv.  I'm not sure if I've used it on webp,
> > but I haven't had any failure to display an image.  
> 
> Just checked qiv out.  No webp support (yet?)
> 
> Supported extensions:
> 
> jpg .jpeg .jpe .gif .tif .tiff .xpm .png .pjpeg .ppm .pnm .pgm .pbm
> .pcx .bmp .eim .ico .wmf .svg

Thanks for checking.  I guess webp images are rare for me, but darn,
maybe I'll be looking for a new viewer too. :-(  And after I'm nicely
trained on qiv.  :-)

I did a quick search and found this link with quite a bit of
information.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/544254/which-image-viewers-in-linux-support-the-webp-image-format

The big thing I liked there is that there is a command to convert webp
to png using the webp package.  And the libwebp and libwebp-tools
packages are available in Fedora.  So, I can just convert the files and
still use qiv (or you could just keep using xv).  Maybe it is possible
to put this in qiv directly somehow.

From the link, haven't tried it as I don't have a webp file:

alias convertwebp="find ./ -name "*.webp" -exec dwebp {} -o {}.png \;;
find . -type f -name '*.webp' -delete"

Looks like it is destructive, removing the webp files after they are
converted to png.

There also is the package qview described there that supports viewing
webp images, and it also is in the Fedora repositories.
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Re: Fedora 37 - Cockpit Software Update Display Questions

2023-03-17 Thread stan via users
On Wed, 15 Mar 2023 10:36:31 -0400
Tom Rivers  wrote:

> Good morning,
> 
> There are two things that I have noticed lately when performing
> upgrades using cockpit:
> 
> 1) When viewing the update log in real time, the display no longer 
> automatically scrolls to show new entries.
> 
> 2) The "Verifying" line of text above the progress indicator seems to
> be missing information and instead displays "undefined" (see attached
> image)
> 
> Is this by design?
 
I don't use cockpit, but these sure sound like bugs.  I did a
quick check of open bugs, and didn't find anything like it.  So, it
would be good if you opened a bug with this information.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=cockpit

You might have to click the little delta above the bug id number to get
the most recent bugs at the top.  And the Fedora bugs are few,
you'll have to page to find them.  Maybe you will see something I
missed.
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Re: where to submit a bug against "xv"?

2023-03-17 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 08:48:05 -0700
Mike Wright  wrote:

> On 3/17/23 08:22, stan via users wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 17:48:23 -0700
> > Samuel Sieb  wrote:
> >   
> >> On 3/15/23 09:49, home user wrote:  
> >   
> >>> You're probably correct, but I hope you're wrong!  I've been using
> >>> xv for decades, and I like it.  It does what I want, and it's
> >>> easy. 
> >>
> >> You might want to check out the "display" command from ImageMagick
> >> or "gm display" from GraphicsMagick.  
> > 
> > Another possibility is qiv.  I'm not sure if I've used it on webp,
> > but I haven't had any failure to display an image.  
> 
> Just checked qiv out.  No webp support (yet?)
> 
> Supported extensions:
> 
> jpg .jpeg .jpe .gif .tif .tiff .xpm .png .pjpeg .ppm .pnm .pgm .pbm
> .pcx .bmp .eim .ico .wmf .svg

I went and checked the source page for qiv, and found this in the
change log:
17.07.2021[tw] add webp support via imlib loader (Ralf Hoffmann)
But this is in version 2.3.3 and F37 only has 2.3.2, so it will
eventually show up when qiv is updated. Saved! 
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Re: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]

2023-03-17 Thread home user

On 3/15/23 10:49 AM, home user wrote:

On 3/15/23 10:16 AM, home user wrote:

"xv" does not handle "webp" images.  I do not see "xv" in the Redhat bugzilla 
menu of components.  Where do I submit a bug against xv?


(Luna)

For compilation help, bug reports, or other technical matters, contact
xvt...@trilon.com


I did as Luna suggested.  The message did not bounce.  A faint sign of hope?

(Todd)

Running 'rpm -qi xv' or 'dnf info xv' shows that package
comes from rpmfusion-nonfree.


I saw that.  But how do I submit a bug against something in rpmfusion-nonfree?
(apparently not via Redhat bugzilla)
I did not realize that the "20070520" in the dnf output was a date.
I also see in "dnf history" that xv was updated on my workstation in October 
when I did my last upgrade.

You're probably correct, but I hope you're wrong!  I've been using xv for 
decades, and I like it.  It does what I want, and it's easy.


(responding to a few posts)

I finally have a few minutes for this.

My actual "use case":
1. launch xv on a screen capture, usually a "png", occasionally and "jpeg" or 
"webp".  These always come from the internet; I have no choice of the image's format.
2. crop the image down to what I want.  xv usually handles this easily and very 
well, but there are exceptions.
3. save the result as either a "png" or a "jpeg" image.

You can see why I want xv to handle "webp".

(Samuel, where to submit a rpmfusion-nonfree bug)


https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/


Thank-you.

(Samuel)

You might want to check out the "display" command from ImageMagick or "gm 
display" from GraphicsMagick.


(Stan and Mike)

Another possibility is qiv.  I'm not sure if I've used it on webp, but
I haven't had any failure to display an image.



[Mike reported that qiv does not handle webp.]



[Stan noted solutions from askubantu.com]



[Stan reported that webp support has been added to qiv, but that enhancement 
hasn't yet made it to Fedora.]


Thank-you.  Those will do the conversion.  It would be better if I could have a 
single graphical tool to load, display, edit, and then save in the desired 
format images of any format.  Assuming x11 will eventually be sunset, and 
assuming xv won't work in wayland, I'm gonna hafta learn something else.  gimp 
seems to be the best candidate.  gimp is powerful, but that makes it difficult 
to learn and use.

By the way, does xv work properly in wayland?  How about xeyes?

The question for which I opened this thread is answered, so I marked this 
thread SOLVED.  I thank everyone who tried to help.

Bill.
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Re: where to submit a bug against "xv"?

2023-03-17 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 12:17 PM home user  wrote:
>
> "xv" does not handle "webp" images.  I do not see "xv" in the Redhat bugzilla 
> menu of components.  Where do I submit a bug against xv?

Since the program is shareware, I doubt you will find it in a distro's Bugzilla.

This looks like as good a site as any:
https://github.com/jasper-software/xv . According to the GitHub
README:

The creator of this GitHub repository (Michael Adams) would
like to thank John Bradley for giving his blessing for a
public Git repository for the XV software. It is hoped that
this repository will allow the ongoing support and
maintenance of the XV software to be done more easily.

Jeff
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Re: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]

2023-03-17 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 3/17/23 12:19, home user wrote:

On 3/15/23 10:49 AM, home user wrote:

On 3/15/23 10:16 AM, home user wrote:

(Samuel)
You might want to check out the "display" command from ImageMagick or 
"gm display" from GraphicsMagick.


Thank-you.  Those will do the conversion.  It would be better if I could 
have a single graphical tool to load, display, edit, and then save in 
the desired format images of any format.  Assuming x11 will eventually 
be sunset, and assuming xv won't work in wayland, I'm gonna hafta learn 
something else.  gimp seems to be the best candidate.  gimp is powerful, 
but that makes it difficult to learn and use.


Those options I gave you will do all that and work with almost any image 
format you can think of and many you wouldn't.

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Re: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]

2023-03-17 Thread George N. White III
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 4:20 PM home user  wrote:

> By the way, does xv work properly in wayland?  How about xeyes?
>

Wayland isolates windows, so you can run xeyes in  xwayland, but the eyes
don't respond until the
cursor is moved into the xeyes window.


> The question for which I opened this thread is answered, so I marked this
> thread SOLVED.  I thank everyone who tried to help.
>



-- 
George N. White III
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Re: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]

2023-03-17 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 17 Mar 2023 13:19:23 -0600
home user  wrote:
 
> My actual "use case":
> 1. launch xv on a screen capture, usually a "png", occasionally and
> "jpeg" or "webp".  These always come from the internet; I have no
> choice of the image's format. 2. crop the image down to what I want.
> xv usually handles this easily and very well, but there are
> exceptions. 3. save the result as either a "png" or a "jpeg" image.

Just for completeness.

I use spectacle for screen captures, and it allows the user to select
the area of the screen to capture and the format of the saved file.  I
use png, but there are other formats available in the
configuration (though not webp). Because it is capturing from the
browser, and browsers can display webp on the screen, spectacle captures
everything on the screen in the browser as a png for me.  If I select
'save image as' in the File menu of the browser (FF), I can get the
native format of the displayed image, but I usually just use spectacle.

Incidentally, the KDE image viewer Gwenview also can display webp.
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Re: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]

2023-03-17 Thread home user

On 3/17/23 2:03 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 3/17/23 12:19, home user wrote:

On 3/15/23 10:49 AM, home user wrote:

On 3/15/23 10:16 AM, home user wrote:

(Samuel)

You might want to check out the "display" command from ImageMagick or "gm 
display" from GraphicsMagick.


Thank-you.  Those will do the conversion.  It would be better if I could have a 
single graphical tool to load, display, edit, and then save in the desired 
format images of any format.  Assuming x11 will eventually be sunset, and 
assuming xv won't work in wayland, I'm gonna hafta learn something else.  gimp 
seems to be the best candidate.  gimp is powerful, but that makes it difficult 
to learn and use.


Those options I gave you will do all that and work with almost any image format 
you can think of and many you wouldn't.


I only had time to give those commands a quick look.  I did see they handle webp images 
and many image formats, and that they can crop, and that they can do many things I never 
heard of or would have imagined doing.  Now and recently my "plate" is 
overflowing.  I'll try those commands when things come off my plate faster than things 
are added to my plate!
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Re: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]

2023-03-17 Thread home user

On 3/17/23 2:06 PM, George N. White III wrote:

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 4:20 PM home user mailto:mattis...@comcast.net>> wrote:

By the way, does xv work properly in wayland?  How about xeyes?


Wayland isolates windows, so you can run xeyes in  xwayland, but the eyes don't 
respond until the
cursor is moved into the xeyes window.


ok, thank-you.
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Re: where to submit a bug against "xv"?

2023-03-17 Thread home user

On 3/17/23 10:06 AM, stan via users wrote:


[... snip ...]
 From the link, haven't tried it as I don't have a webp file:
[... snip ...]


There's one in this web page:
"https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Johnrogershousemay2020.webp";.

Or look up "webp" in wikipedia.  There's an image of a white house in the webp 
article.  It's a webp image.

Bill.
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