Black screens with rpmfusion nvidia 470xx and 6.0.16.fc36

2023-01-06 Thread John Pilkington
Heads up. After today's updates I get black unresponsive screens.  OK in 
6.0.15

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Fedora 37 hangs after graphical login

2023-01-06 Thread Karlderletzte

Hello, since yesterday i do have a big problem.
After some updates and a succesfull reboot, i first could not login 
anymore. Alsways a wrong password.

I solved this with resetting root password and my two user passwords.
Now i could login.
Root account works,
one user account (the empty one) also.
But my usually working account freezes, after i login.
If i login via terminal Ctrl-Alt-F3 it works.
So i think that something is crashed during the load after graphical 
login.
How could i See, what is going on after graphical login? The different 
steps and programs i mean. Any logfiles?


I know that one of the first thing is loading gdm? Or am i wrong?

Btw: i use wayland and GNOME. An update via dnf brings nothing.

Hope someone does have an idea.
Thanks
Jens
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kernel bug? listening on same port with IPv4 and IPv6

2023-01-06 Thread Sjoerd Mullender
I have a program that is supposed to listen to the same port on both 
IPv4 and IPv6 sockets.  In the past, what it did, was basically: create 
new socket for IPv6, set option IPV6_V6ONLY to off, bind, listen; then 
create a new socket for IPv4, and also bind and listen.  The first bind 
is either to a specific port, or to port 0 to let the system assign a 
port.  The second bind uses the port that the first one used (i.e. what 
the system assigned).


With the latest kernel, this still works if listening to localhost 
([::1]/127.0.0.1) only, but not when listening to [::]/0.0.0.0.  In that 
case, the second bind gets a different port number assigned to it. 
Moreover, the second bind system call returns 1, which it is not 
supposed to do according to the manual.  Bind is supposed to return 0 on 
success and -1 on error.


What is going on?  Is this a kernel bug, or is this the future?

Kernel is 6.0.16-300.fc37.x86_64, i.e. the latest Fedora 37 kernel.

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Re: kernel bug? listening on same port with IPv4 and IPv6

2023-01-06 Thread Barry


> On 6 Jan 2023, at 14:18, Sjoerd Mullender  wrote:
> 
> I have a program that is supposed to listen to the same port on both IPv4 
> and IPv6 sockets.  In the past, what it did, was basically: create new socket 
> for IPv6, set option IPV6_V6ONLY to off, bind, listen; then create a new 
> socket for IPv4, and also bind and listen.  The first bind is either to a 
> specific port, or to port 0 to let the system assign a port.  The second bind 
> uses the port that the first one used (i.e. what the system assigned).

Are you sure that this is behaviour you can depend on?
Is it documented?

It seems that there is a possibility that the 2nd bind with port 0 can race 
against other processes. Why should you get the same port bound?

If I was writing this code I would take the port allocated on the 1st bind and 
use it explicitly in the 2nd bind. Would that work and be deterministic?

I recall working on code that needed two ports N and N+1.
The algorithm looped until the N and N+1 condition was met.

Barry

> 
> With the latest kernel, this still works if listening to localhost 
> ([::1]/127.0.0.1) only, but not when listening to [::]/0.0.0.0.  In that 
> case, the second bind gets a different port number assigned to it. Moreover, 
> the second bind system call returns 1, which it is not supposed to do 
> according to the manual.  Bind is supposed to return 0 on success and -1 on 
> error.
> 
> What is going on?  Is this a kernel bug, or is this the future?
> 
> Kernel is 6.0.16-300.fc37.x86_64, i.e. the latest Fedora 37 kernel.
> 
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Re: kernel bug? listening on same port with IPv4 and IPv6

2023-01-06 Thread Sjoerd Mullender



On 06/01/2023 18.59, Barry wrote:




On 6 Jan 2023, at 14:18, Sjoerd Mullender  wrote:

I have a program that is supposed to listen to the same port on both IPv4 and 
IPv6 sockets.  In the past, what it did, was basically: create new socket for 
IPv6, set option IPV6_V6ONLY to off, bind, listen; then create a new socket for 
IPv4, and also bind and listen.  The first bind is either to a specific port, 
or to port 0 to let the system assign a port.  The second bind uses the port 
that the first one used (i.e. what the system assigned).


Are you sure that this is behaviour you can depend on?
Is it documented?

It seems that there is a possibility that the 2nd bind with port 0 can race 
against other processes. Why should you get the same port bound?

If I was writing this code I would take the port allocated on the 1st bind and 
use it explicitly in the 2nd bind. Would that work and be deterministic?


That's exactly what I do.


I recall working on code that needed two ports N and N+1.
The algorithm looped until the N and N+1 condition was met.

Barry



With the latest kernel, this still works if listening to localhost 
([::1]/127.0.0.1) only, but not when listening to [::]/0.0.0.0.  In that case, 
the second bind gets a different port number assigned to it. Moreover, the 
second bind system call returns 1, which it is not supposed to do according to 
the manual.  Bind is supposed to return 0 on success and -1 on error.

What is going on?  Is this a kernel bug, or is this the future?

Kernel is 6.0.16-300.fc37.x86_64, i.e. the latest Fedora 37 kernel.

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Re: Fedora 37 hangs after graphical login

2023-01-06 Thread karlderletzte
Am Fr, 2023-01-06, 14:33 +0100, Karlderletzte  
schrieb:

hello,
i find out some additional info.
if i disable network before login, then the graphical login works.
perhaps someting with my autofs.
but i dont know how to read something in logs.

> Hello, since yesterday i do have a big problem.
> After some updates and a succesfull reboot, i first could not login
> anymore. Alsways a wrong password.
> I solved this with resetting root password and my two user passwords.
> Now i could login.
> Root account works,
> one user account (the empty one) also.
> But my usually working account freezes, after i login.
> If i login via terminal Ctrl-Alt-F3 it works.
> So i think that something is crashed during the load after graphical
> login.
> How could i See, what is going on after graphical login? The different
> steps and programs i mean. Any logfiles?
>
> I know that one of the first thing is loading gdm? Or am i wrong?
>
> Btw: i use wayland and GNOME. An update via dnf brings nothing.
>
> Hope someone does have an idea.
> Thanks
> Jens
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Re: Fedora 37 hangs after graphical login

2023-01-06 Thread karlderletzte
hurray,
i find out the source of pain.
it is the autofs.service.
after disabling it, its working.
but i do not know, why this service freeze my laptop.
i use autofs since fedora 35 and do not edit anything.

does anybody knows something about configuration of autofs, especially
changes the last month?
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6.0.16-200.fc36.x86_64 crash

2023-01-06 Thread Roger Wells
I boot from the latest kernel (subject) then mount a shared directory on 
a RHEL 7.9 host.
As soon as I access any file or directory on the shared directory the my 
machine instantly & completely freezes.
Even the clock on the top bar stops, cursor stops blinking, and other 
pc's cannot ping this one.

If I reboot to 6.0.15-200.fc36.x86_64, no problem.
Also noted that another shared directory on another pc (not sure what 
OS) works fine.

Just wondering what I should try next?
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picture stitcher for Fedora?

2023-01-06 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

Hi All,

FC37

Is there a picture stitcher that works with
Fedora and that does not require a rocked
scientist to use?

Many thanks,
-T
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Re: picture stitcher for Fedora?

2023-01-06 Thread David King

On 1/6/23 15:08, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Is there a picture stitcher that works with
Fedora and that does not require a rocked
scientist to use?


I use hugin.  If you stay with the high-level workflow (the numbered 
buttons) it's simple to use.  The rocket scientist options are also 
there though, if you need them.


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Re: Fedora 37 hangs after graphical login

2023-01-06 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 06 Jan 2023 19:47:40 +0100
karlderletzte  wrote:

> hurray,
> i find out the source of pain.
> it is the autofs.service.
> after disabling it, its working.
> but i do not know, why this service freeze my laptop.
> i use autofs since fedora 35 and do not edit anything.
> 
> does anybody knows something about configuration of autofs, especially
> changes the last month?

I don't have any autofs mounted filesystems, but it seems that it is
trying to mount a filesystem that isn't available.  When it happens,
try the command
journalctl -r
to see what was logged to the journal in reverse order.  So, most
recent will be first.

I think this must be something particular to your system.  I looked at
the redhat bugzilla page, and didn't find anything that seemed to be
related to your problem.  Here is the page of open bugs.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=autofs
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Re: 6.0.16-200.fc36.x86_64 crash

2023-01-06 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 14:57:53 -0500
Roger Wells  wrote:

> I boot from the latest kernel (subject) then mount a shared directory
> on a RHEL 7.9 host.
> As soon as I access any file or directory on the shared directory the
> my machine instantly & completely freezes.
> Even the clock on the top bar stops, cursor stops blinking, and other 
> pc's cannot ping this one.
> If I reboot to 6.0.15-200.fc36.x86_64, no problem.
> Also noted that another shared directory on another pc (not sure what 
> OS) works fine.
> Just wondering what I should try next?

Is there anything in the logs on the local system after reboot, or on
the shared directory system?

This sounds like a null pointer is being accessed.  Because it doesn't
happen on 6.0.15, it might be a bug in the kernel.  But I couldn't find
any bugs open on the redhat bugzilla, so it seems unlikely.

Has the protocol changed?  Maybe it is trying to interpret the data it
receives incorrectly.
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Re: picture stitcher for Fedora?

2023-01-06 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 1/6/23 13:50, David King wrote:

On 1/6/23 15:08, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Is there a picture stitcher that works with
Fedora and that does not require a rocked
scientist to use?


I use hugin.  If you stay with the high-level workflow (the numbered 
buttons) it's simple to use.  The rocket scientist options are also 
there though, if you need them.




Thank you!
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Re: picture stitcher for Fedora?

2023-01-06 Thread Javier Perez
Things I love about this list.
You get to find out about interesting software you were not even looking
for!



On Fri, Jan 6, 2023 at 5:05 PM ToddAndMargo via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> On 1/6/23 13:50, David King wrote:
> > On 1/6/23 15:08, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> >> Is there a picture stitcher that works with
> >> Fedora and that does not require a rocked
> >> scientist to use?
> >
> > I use hugin.  If you stay with the high-level workflow (the numbered
> > buttons) it's simple to use.  The rocket scientist options are also
> > there though, if you need them.
> >
>
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Re: 6.0.16-200.fc36.x86_64 crash

2023-01-06 Thread Ulf Volmer

On 06.01.23 23:03, stan via users wrote:

On Fri, 6 Jan 2023 14:57:53 -0500
Roger Wells  wrote:


I boot from the latest kernel (subject) then mount a shared directory
on a RHEL 7.9 host.
As soon as I access any file or directory on the shared directory the
my machine instantly & completely freezes.
Even the clock on the top bar stops, cursor stops blinking, and other
pc's cannot ping this one.
If I reboot to 6.0.15-200.fc36.x86_64, no problem.
Also noted that another shared directory on another pc (not sure what
OS) works fine.
Just wondering what I should try next?


Is there anything in the logs on the local system after reboot, or on
the shared directory system?

This sounds like a null pointer is being accessed.  Because it doesn't
happen on 6.0.15, it might be a bug in the kernel.  But I couldn't find
any bugs open on the redhat bugzilla, so it seems unlikely.


I have the same behavior with a cifs mount to a fritz box (AVM router).
Also introduced with 6.0.16.

mount options is my case are

mount -o 
nounix,noserverino,uid=1501,gid=15010,file_mode=0640,dir_mode=0750,credentials=/home/ulf/.smb.fritz,vers=3 
//fritz.box/FRITZ.NAS /mnt


and there is nothing in the journal.

Best regards
Ulf
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Re: kernel bug? listening on same port with IPv4 and IPv6

2023-01-06 Thread Gordon Messmer

On 2023-01-06 06:17, Sjoerd Mullender wrote:
I have a program that is supposed to listen to the same port on both 
IPv4 and IPv6 sockets.  In the past, what it did, was basically: 
create new socket for IPv6, set option IPV6_V6ONLY to off, bind, 
listen; then create a new socket for IPv4, and also bind and listen.



Do you have sample code that demonstrates this process?

I'm confused by your description, because setting IPV6_V6ONLY to 0 with 
setsockopt should result in a socket that's bound to a port that accepts 
both IPv4 and IPv6 connections.  You shouldn't have ever been able to 
bind to that port in IPv4 in the past.


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Re: Black screens with rpmfusion nvidia 470xx and 6.0.16.fc36

2023-01-06 Thread Stephen Morris

On 6/1/23 22:22, John Pilkington wrote:
Heads up. After today's updates I get black unresponsive screens.  OK 
in 6.0.15
I'm using the nvidia 525.60.11 driver from 
rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver and there is no issue with kernel 6.0.16.


regards,
Steve


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Grubby? Doesn't Load Initrd

2023-01-06 Thread Stephen Morris

Hi,
    I've just done an update which installed kernel 6.0.16 and I forgot 
to run grub2-mkconfig, and when I booted from the grub menu's defined in 
/boot/grub2/grub.cfg presumably updated by grubby, it did not run 
initrd, the grub.cfg file generated by grub2-mkconfig does run initrd. 
Is this a defect with grubby?


regards,
Steve
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Re: Fedora 37 hangs after graphical login

2023-01-06 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2023-01-06 at 19:47 +0100, karlderletzte wrote:
> it is the autofs.service.
> after disabling it, its working.
> but i do not know, why this service freeze my laptop.
> i use autofs since fedora 35 and do not edit anything.

As far as I was aware, autofs didn't do anything unless you did edit
something.  If I want it to automount something I had to customise
something.  I believe things like USB drives and optical discs were
usually handled by something else.

And my past experience with mounting things via some kind of rule or
/etc/fstab entry, was that the system would foul up at boot and
shutdown if the thing listed wasn't present for the system to act on.

I just use autofs for accessing NFS exports on another PC.  e.g. I set
the /net directory to be an automount point, then if I try to access
something like /net/rocky/home/tim autofs will mount my home directory
on the "rocky" server (that being its hostname).  That automount will
gracefully disappear after some time, rather than wedge my system (as
it would if I had made an entry in my /etc/fstab and tried to boot or
shutdown the client when the server wasn't available).
 
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Re: Grubby? Doesn't Load Initrd

2023-01-06 Thread Tim via users
On Sat, 2023-01-07 at 14:36 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
> I've just done an update which installed kernel 6.0.16 and I forgot 
> to run grub2-mkconfig, and when I booted from the grub menu's defined in 
> /boot/grub2/grub.cfg presumably updated by grubby, it did not run 
> initrd, the grub.cfg file generated by grub2-mkconfig does run initrd.

I have to ask, since I see a lot of grubby posts (pun intended):

I've *NEVER* run grub2-mkconfig.  I've always just yum/dnf update (do
all current updates), or just dnf update kernel (if I wanted to
specifically just do that), and it's always installed the new kernel
properly all by itself.  No further action was required by me.

What are people doing to their systems that they paint themselves into
a corner that they have to manually manage this, then have to pick up
the pieces when it doesn't work?
 
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