Re: /etc/grub2.cfg Flagged a Potenially missing

2022-09-01 Thread Stephen Morris

On 1/9/22 09:45, Roger Heflin wrote:

On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 6:02 PM Stephen Morris  wrote:

On 30/8/22 01:16, Roger Heflin wrote:

sudo/root is required to access the grub subdirectory because the
permissions are locked down.

I would guess since there can be encrypted grub passwords (and
possibly other similar stuff) in there that is why it is locked down.

I did check the acl on the folder and noticed it was locked down to
root. I could put an acl on the folder to make the folder readable by me
without enabling reading of the contents of the files in that folder,
but is that the only way to stop ls from flagging a file as deleted when
the parent folder is locked down?

regards,
Steve

Pretty much.

 From the command run as a real user the file does not exist because of
permissions, but the command has no way to know that so it is simply
missing.

Thanks Roger, I thought that might be the situation.

regards,
Steve


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cupsd spamming the journal

2022-09-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I'm getting this in the journal (repeats once per second):

Sep 01 11:02:05 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
Sep 01 11:02:04 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
Sep 01 11:02:03 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
Sep 01 11:02:02 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
Sep 01 11:02:01 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
Sep 01 11:02:00 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
Sep 01 11:01:59 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
Sep 01 11:01:58 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
Sep 01 11:01:57 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
Sep 01 11:01:56 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
Sep 01 11:01:55 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...

Any thoughts?

poc
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Re: following thunderbird upgrade to 102, it takes over 1h of 100% CPU to start

2022-09-01 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2022-09-01 at 08:57 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote:
> I'm not sure about emptying the junk folder automatically, my 
> interpretation of the junk process was the mails have to remain in that 
> folder for the junk processing to determine a new mail is junk according 
> to your rules,

My understanding was that the interpretation had already been done, and
they remain in the junk folder in case it got it wrong.  You can check
what it's junking, you can find a mail it erroneously junked, and you
can reclassify it as being non-junk.

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Re: following thunderbird upgrade to 102, it takes over 1h of 100% CPU to start

2022-09-01 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 9:43 AM Tim via users 
wrote:

> On Thu, 2022-09-01 at 08:57 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > I'm not sure about emptying the junk folder automatically, my
> > interpretation of the junk process was the mails have to remain in that
> > folder for the junk processing to determine a new mail is junk according
> > to your rules,
>
> My understanding was that the interpretation had already been done, and
> they remain in the junk folder in case it got it wrong.  You can check
> what it's junking, you can find a mail it erroneously junked, and you
> can reclassify it as being non-junk.
>

I routinely clear out the junk folder.  Junk detection works well (for an
account created when internet first reached my city so the address is
readily available to spammers).

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Re: cupsd spamming the journal

2022-09-01 Thread Barry Scott


> On 1 Sep 2022, at 11:20, Patrick O'Callaghan  wrote:
> 
> I'm getting this in the journal (repeats once per second):
> 
> Sep 01 11:02:05 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> Sep 01 11:02:04 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> Sep 01 11:02:03 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> Sep 01 11:02:02 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> Sep 01 11:02:01 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> Sep 01 11:02:00 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> Sep 01 11:01:59 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> Sep 01 11:01:58 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> Sep 01 11:01:57 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> Sep 01 11:01:56 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> Sep 01 11:01:55 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> 
> Any thoughts?

Do a web search , the web seems to know all about this.

Barry


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Re: cupsd spamming the journal

2022-09-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2022-09-01 at 18:00 +0100, Barry Scott wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 1 Sep 2022, at 11:20, Patrick O'Callaghan
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I'm getting this in the journal (repeats once per second):
> > 
> > Sep 01 11:02:05 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> > Sep 01 11:02:04 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> > Sep 01 11:02:03 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> > Sep 01 11:02:02 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> > Sep 01 11:02:01 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> > Sep 01 11:02:00 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> > Sep 01 11:01:59 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> > Sep 01 11:01:58 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> > Sep 01 11:01:57 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> > Sep 01 11:01:56 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> > Sep 01 11:01:55 Bree cupsd[1156]: Expiring subscriptions...
> > 
> > Any thoughts?
> 
> Do a web search , the web seems to know all about this.

First thing I tried before posting. It gets two hits:

The first hit is from 20 years ago and basically says "don't worry
about it" while referring to a man page I don't understand.

The second hit points to a RedHat page that wants me to create an
account to access their knowledge base for RHEL.

poc
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[Call To Action] Fedora 37 Pre-Beta Release Validation

2022-09-01 Thread Sumantro Mukherjee
Hey Fedorans,

We are running a Fedora 37 Pre-Beta Release Validation[0] Test Week!
Come help test the Pre-Beta image and fill up matrixes in here[1].
If you have any questions, reach out to #fedora-test-day on libera or test list!

[0] https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/f37-pre-beta-release-validation/
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Summary

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Re: following thunderbird upgrade to 102, it takes over 1h of 100% CPU to start

2022-09-01 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2022-09-01 at 22:12 +0930, Tim via users wrote:
> My understanding was that the interpretation had already been done, and
> they remain in the junk folder in case it got it wrong.  You can check
> what it's junking, you can find a mail it erroneously junked, and you
> can reclassify it as being non-junk.

For what it's worth, that's certainly the way other programs worked. 
As mail is processed, spam rules are made somewhere else.

Back when I used a program using Bayesian rules, I quickly programmed
it in two stages:  Using a folder of lots of kept spam, selected them
all, and flagged them as spam.  And folders of kept non-spam, selected
them all, and flagged them as non-spam.

It was quite effective, but for one thing:  If a mailing list became a
source of spam, and you kept marking mail from it as being spam, the
system can add the mailing list itself as being spam.

Eventually I settled on not using junk detection, using a separate
email address for mailing lists, having that address *only* accept mail
from those lists.  You get no false positives (real mail getting
falsely flagged as spam), and the few that slip through I just hit the
delete button once or twice each day (yes, it's that few).

False positives are a huge curse.  You lose touch with friends, you
miss jobs and incoming bills.  If you have to keep checking your junk
mail folder for them, what's the point of using spam filtering?  You're
going to see the spam, anyway.

-- 
 
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Linux 3.10.0-1160.76.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 10 16:21:17 UTC 2022 x86_64
 
Boilerplate:  All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted.
I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list.
 
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Help building custom kernel RPM.

2022-09-01 Thread Sharpened Blade via users
I want to build a custom kernel with some modules and patches added, and 
package this as an rpm to install. I have tried adding it like building the 
kernel from the git source, but it doesnt have the modules. I think it might 
have to do with the .spec file. I added the patches to the rpm, and I modified 
the source tarball so it has the modules added. I ran
```
dnf install -y fedora-packager git curl pesign ncurses-devel libkcapi 
libkcapi-devel libkcapi-static libkcapi-tools libbpf fedpkg rpmdevtools dwarves
rpmdev-setuptree
cd ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES

koji download-build --arch=src kernel-${FEDORA_KERNEL_VERSION}
rpm -Uvh kernel-${FEDORA_KERNEL_VERSION}.src.rpm

cd /root/rpmbuild/SPECS 
dnf -y builddep kernel.spec

cp /path/to/driver /path/to/kernel source tarbal from spec/drivers/staging
tar -cJf ~/rpmbuild/SOURCES/kernel-version.tar.xz /path/to/kernel/src
rpmbuild -bb --with baseonly --without debug --without debuginfo 
--target=x86_64 kernel.spec
```
I know that I install some extra useless dependencies. When I do the same 
process to the kernel sources, but instead use make to build the vanilla kernel 
git, the modules are built. I noticed this 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelStagingPolicy, but I dont know if it is 
related. The necessary drivers are in drivers/staging, and I added the sources 
to the spec file. Can someone please help me make this modifications into a 
kernel rpm.
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I am trying to build a custom kernel rpm and need help.

2022-09-01 Thread Sharpened Blade via users
I have a few custom (out-of-tree) drivers and patches, and I want to add them 
to a rpm package for the kernel, how can I do that. The drivers have to go in 
the staging folder, but they dont seem to get built by the spec file.
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Re: I am trying to build a custom kernel rpm and need help.

2022-09-01 Thread Sharpened Blade via users
Please ignore this, I though my previous post was accidentally deleted.
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Re: I am trying to build a custom kernel rpm and need help.

2022-09-01 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Sharpened Blade via users writes:

I have a few custom (out-of-tree) drivers and patches, and I want to add  
them to a rpm package for the kernel, how can I do that. The drivers have to  
go in the staging folder, but they dont seem to get built by the spec file.


Correct. The mere presence of some additional patch files makes no  
difference, whatsoever.


You also need to modify the spec file accordingly, and apply the patch.

You might want to start by looking at some other, smaller, simple packages  
that apply a handful of basic patches to upstream source before building it.  
The kernel package is one of the bigger and the most complicated ones. You  
want to get your bearings, first, by looking at something simpler.




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Re: following thunderbird upgrade to 102, it takes over 1h of 100% CPU to start

2022-09-01 Thread Eyal Lebedinsky


On 02/09/2022 11.11, Tim via users wrote:

On Thu, 2022-09-01 at 22:12 +0930, Tim via users wrote:

My understanding was that the interpretation had already been done, and
they remain in the junk folder in case it got it wrong.  You can check
what it's junking, you can find a mail it erroneously junked, and you
can reclassify it as being non-junk.


For what it's worth, that's certainly the way other programs worked.
As mail is processed, spam rules are made somewhere else.

Back when I used a program using Bayesian rules, I quickly programmed
it in two stages:  Using a folder of lots of kept spam, selected them
all, and flagged them as spam.  And folders of kept non-spam, selected
them all, and flagged them as non-spam.

It was quite effective, but for one thing:  If a mailing list became a
source of spam, and you kept marking mail from it as being spam, the
system can add the mailing list itself as being spam.

Eventually I settled on not using junk detection, using a separate
email address for mailing lists, having that address *only* accept mail
from those lists.  You get no false positives (real mail getting
falsely flagged as spam), and the few that slip through I just hit the
delete button once or twice each day (yes, it's that few).

False positives are a huge curse.  You lose touch with friends, you
miss jobs and incoming bills.  If you have to keep checking your junk
mail folder for them, what's the point of using spam filtering?  You're
going to see the spam, anyway.


I mark the spam folder to only show unread messages. This way I see what was 
added
before marking all as read (after unJunking any mistakes).

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